Remembering Brad Arnold: The Rock Star Who Chose Jesus Over Fame

Welcome to Culture and Christianity. Welcome to Culture and Christianity. Today's a bit different. We're going to Today's a bit different. We're going to Today's a bit different. We're going to reair a podcast I did 18 months ago, but reair a podcast I did 18 months ago, but reair a podcast I did 18 months ago, but not because we didn't have other not because we didn't have other not because we didn't have other content. It's an important message. I content. It's an important message. I content. It's an important message. I have been working through a sermon have been working through a sermon have been working through a sermon series called Dangerous Faith. The idea series called Dangerous Faith. The idea series called Dangerous Faith. The idea really didn't originate with me. The really didn't originate with me. The really didn't originate with me. The podcast is with Brad Arnold. Some of you podcast is with Brad Arnold. Some of you podcast is with Brad Arnold. Some of you may remember Brad was the lead singer may remember Brad was the lead singer may remember Brad was the lead singer for Three Doors Down, a music group. He for Three Doors Down, a music group. He for Three Doors Down, a music group. He was a friend, part of our congregation. was a friend, part of our congregation. was a friend, part of our congregation. And we sat down, as I said, about 18 And we sat down, as I said, about 18 And we sat down, as I said, about 18 months ago for Brad to tell the story of months ago for Brad to tell the story of months ago for Brad to tell the story of how his faith had changed his life. Brad how his faith had changed his life. Brad how his faith had changed his life. Brad was 15 when he wrote a song in a math was 15 when he wrote a song in a math was 15 when he wrote a song in a math class in high school that went on to class in high school that went on to class in high school that went on to sell multiplied millions of copies. It sell multiplied millions of copies. It sell multiplied millions of copies. It started really a rocket ride for him. started really a rocket ride for him. started really a rocket ride for him. Brad got to Japan on a global tour and Brad got to Japan on a global tour and Brad got to Japan on a global tour and he was at the end of his rope. He was at he was at the end of his rope. He was at he was at the end of his rope. He was at the end of himself. He didn't have the the end of himself. He didn't have the the end of himself. He didn't have the courage to face the next day. He needed courage to face the next day. He needed courage to face the next day. He needed help. So, he started calling home. But help. So, he started calling home. But help. So, he started calling home. But because of the time difference, nobody because of the time difference, nobody because of the time difference, nobody was answering the phone. The only person was answering the phone. The only person was answering the phone. The only person that picked up was Charlie Daniels. And that picked up was Charlie Daniels. And that picked up was Charlie Daniels. And Charlie asked him some questions. Gave Charlie asked him some questions. Gave Charlie asked him some questions. Gave him some good advice. He said, "Brad, him some good advice. He said, "Brad, him some good advice. He said, "Brad, you need to get home. Get your faith you need to get home. Get your faith you need to get home. Get your faith straight. Get your family straight." And straight. Get your family straight." And straight. Get your family straight." And then he asked him a question that then he asked him a question that then he asked him a question that changed his life. He said, "Brad, do you changed his life. He said, "Brad, do you changed his life. He said, "Brad, do you love your wife?" And he said, "Mr.

love your wife?" And he said, "Mr. love your wife?" And he said, "Mr. Charlie, you know I do." And then Charlie, you know I do." And then Charlie, you know I do." And then Charlie said, "Well, then why are you Charlie said, "Well, then why are you Charlie said, "Well, then why are you trying to kill her husband?" Well, Brad trying to kill her husband?" Well, Brad trying to kill her husband?" Well, Brad came home and got his life straight. came home and got his life straight. came home and got his life straight. when he captured my heart was I listen when he captured my heart was I listen when he captured my heart was I listen to the recordings and watch the videos to the recordings and watch the videos to the recordings and watch the videos of him on stage. He would stop a of him on stage. He would stop a of him on stage. He would stop a concert, a rock concert, and say, "I concert, a rock concert, and say, "I concert, a rock concert, and say, "I need to talk to you for a minute." And need to talk to you for a minute." And need to talk to you for a minute." And in a quiet, gentle voice, he would share in a quiet, gentle voice, he would share in a quiet, gentle voice, he would share his God story. And I would watch those his God story. And I would watch those his God story. And I would watch those rather rowdy rooms settle down as he rather rowdy rooms settle down as he rather rowdy rooms settle down as he told them about the transforming power told them about the transforming power told them about the transforming power of Jesus. And give them an invitation to of Jesus. And give them an invitation to of Jesus. And give them an invitation to have a personal transformation of their have a personal transformation of their have a personal transformation of their own. Well, not too long after we did the own. Well, not too long after we did the own. Well, not too long after we did the podcast, Brad was given a very grave podcast, Brad was given a very grave podcast, Brad was given a very grave diagnosis and succumbed to the disease diagnosis and succumbed to the disease diagnosis and succumbed to the disease some months later. I was invited to be a some months later. I was invited to be a some months later. I was invited to be a part of his memorial service and it was part of his memorial service and it was part of his memorial service and it was sitting in a little country church in sitting in a little country church in sitting in a little country church in Philadelphia, Mississippi, making some Philadelphia, Mississippi, making some Philadelphia, Mississippi, making some notes on the Bible verses I had for Brad notes on the Bible verses I had for Brad notes on the Bible verses I had for Brad that really gave rise to this notion of that really gave rise to this notion of that really gave rise to this notion of dangerous faith. I I wrote in the margin dangerous faith. I I wrote in the margin dangerous faith. I I wrote in the margin of my Bible that Brad was a dangerous of my Bible that Brad was a dangerous of my Bible that Brad was a dangerous Christian. He didn't have a theoretical Christian. He didn't have a theoretical Christian. He didn't have a theoretical faith. He had a living faith and he was faith. He had a living faith and he was faith. He had a living faith and he was willing to take it to work with him to willing to take it to work with him to willing to take it to work with him to tell people that Jesus was a reality. I tell people that Jesus was a reality. I tell people that Jesus was a reality. I don't mean dangerous in a sense of don't mean dangerous in a sense of don't mean dangerous in a sense of violence or belligerance, but dangerous violence or belligerance, but dangerous violence or belligerance, but dangerous to the principalities and and spiritual to the principalities and and spiritual to the principalities and and spiritual forces of darkness in the heavenly forces of darkness in the heavenly forces of darkness in the heavenly places. I want to ask you something. Are places. I want to ask you something. Are places. I want to ask you something. Are you willing to have a dangerous faith?

you willing to have a dangerous faith? you willing to have a dangerous faith? Not a church faith, not a timid faith, Not a church faith, not a timid faith, Not a church faith, not a timid faith, not a private faith, but a faith that not a private faith, but a faith that not a private faith, but a faith that you're willing to live out in the public you're willing to live out in the public you're willing to live out in the public square and acknowledge the transforming square and acknowledge the transforming square and acknowledge the transforming power of Jesus. Folks, it seems to me power of Jesus. Folks, it seems to me power of Jesus. Folks, it seems to me that our goal is to have been to be that our goal is to have been to be that our goal is to have been to be timid and to not cause any disruptions timid and to not cause any disruptions timid and to not cause any disruptions for too long. It's time to have the for too long. It's time to have the for too long. It's time to have the courage to live out our faith. I think courage to live out our faith. I think courage to live out our faith. I think as you listen to Brad and you hear the as you listen to Brad and you hear the as you listen to Brad and you hear the honesty with which he shares his story, honesty with which he shares his story, honesty with which he shares his story, my prayer is it will give us the courage my prayer is it will give us the courage my prayer is it will give us the courage to have the integrity to tell our own to have the integrity to tell our own to have the integrity to tell our own God's stories in our spheres of God's stories in our spheres of God's stories in our spheres of influence. If we'll do that, I believe influence. If we'll do that, I believe influence. If we'll do that, I believe we'll see God continue to move in the we'll see God continue to move in the we'll see God continue to move in the most remarkable of ways. Enjoy the most remarkable of ways. Enjoy the most remarkable of ways. Enjoy the conversation with Brad Arnold and I pray conversation with Brad Arnold and I pray conversation with Brad Arnold and I pray it gives you hope for God's it gives you hope for God's it gives you hope for God's transformation in your life. transformation in your life. transformation in your life. Well, welcome to Culture and Well, welcome to Culture and Well, welcome to Culture and Christianity. Uh we're trying to sort Christianity. Uh we're trying to sort Christianity. Uh we're trying to sort out this interface between our faith and out this interface between our faith and out this interface between our faith and the world we live in so that we don't the world we live in so that we don't the world we live in so that we don't hide in our churches and quote hide in our churches and quote hide in our churches and quote scriptures and then live like the devil scriptures and then live like the devil scriptures and then live like the devil when we leave the building. So, I'm when we leave the building. So, I'm when we leave the building. So, I'm excited today. My guest is Brad Arnold.

excited today. My guest is Brad Arnold. excited today. My guest is Brad Arnold. Uh Brad's a good middle Tennessee guy Uh Brad's a good middle Tennessee guy Uh Brad's a good middle Tennessee guy now. now. now. >> I am. started out in Mississippi. >> I am. started out in Mississippi. >> I am. started out in Mississippi. >> Yes, sir. I uh I'm from South >> Yes, sir. I uh I'm from South >> Yes, sir. I uh I'm from South Mississippi. I'm from down on the Mississippi. I'm from down on the Mississippi. I'm from down on the Mississippi Gulf Coast from a little Mississippi Gulf Coast from a little Mississippi Gulf Coast from a little town called Escataba and uh grew up town called Escataba and uh grew up town called Escataba and uh grew up there and I moved to Tennessee 17 years there and I moved to Tennessee 17 years there and I moved to Tennessee 17 years ago. I lived in Smyrna for a little ago. I lived in Smyrna for a little ago. I lived in Smyrna for a little while and now I've lived here in while and now I've lived here in while and now I've lived here in Murphy'sboro for the last 10 years and I Murphy'sboro for the last 10 years and I Murphy'sboro for the last 10 years and I love it here. love it here. love it here. >> Well, welcome to Culture and >> Well, welcome to Culture and >> Well, welcome to Culture and Christianity. Christianity. Christianity. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> I have a habit when I have somebody >> I have a habit when I have somebody >> I have a habit when I have somebody that's a professional and you are. I try that's a professional and you are. I try that's a professional and you are. I try to let them introduce themselves, tell to let them introduce themselves, tell to let them introduce themselves, tell our listeners what you do so I don't our listeners what you do so I don't our listeners what you do so I don't mangle it. Well, I'm uh Brad and I'm the mangle it. Well, I'm uh Brad and I'm the mangle it. Well, I'm uh Brad and I'm the lead singer for the rock band Three lead singer for the rock band Three lead singer for the rock band Three Doors Down. And u I started the band Doors Down. And u I started the band Doors Down. And u I started the band when I was 15 years old, me and a buddy when I was 15 years old, me and a buddy when I was 15 years old, me and a buddy and or a couple of buddies. And and um and or a couple of buddies. And and um and or a couple of buddies. And and um we just liked having fun. We we we we just liked having fun. We we we we just liked having fun. We we we basically started playing music basically started playing music basically started playing music together, you know, and um music's together, you know, and um music's together, you know, and um music's always been a part of my life. I'm the always been a part of my life. I'm the always been a part of my life. I'm the youngest of seven kids and I grew up in youngest of seven kids and I grew up in youngest of seven kids and I grew up in the Assembly of God church down in South the Assembly of God church down in South the Assembly of God church down in South Mississippi. So, Mississippi. So, Mississippi. So, I didn't grow up in a shy household. It I didn't grow up in a shy household. It I didn't grow up in a shy household. It was never out of the out of place to run was never out of the out of place to run was never out of the out of place to run around the house singing whatever song, around the house singing whatever song, around the house singing whatever song, you know, and and um always love beating you know, and and um always love beating you know, and and um always love beating on the drums as I started out our on the drums as I started out our on the drums as I started out our drummer. And uh and I only became our drummer. And uh and I only became our drummer. And uh and I only became our singer because we didn't have a singer.

singer because we didn't have a singer. singer because we didn't have a singer. And um And um And um >> kind of need that for a band. I guess >> kind of need that for a band. I guess >> kind of need that for a band. I guess >> you do. And for the entire time before >> you do. And for the entire time before >> you do. And for the entire time before we got signed, I was the drummer and the we got signed, I was the drummer and the we got signed, I was the drummer and the singer. And when we got signed, I came singer. And when we got signed, I came singer. And when we got signed, I came out from behind the drums and just out from behind the drums and just out from behind the drums and just started singing. And that was quite the started singing. And that was quite the started singing. And that was quite the awkward experience at first and still awkward experience at first and still awkward experience at first and still took me a it it took me a while and it took me a it it took me a while and it took me a it it took me a while and it still sometimes I like wonder what to do still sometimes I like wonder what to do still sometimes I like wonder what to do with my hands. Um, but I've been blessed with my hands. Um, but I've been blessed with my hands. Um, but I've been blessed to uh be in this band for 30 years. And to uh be in this band for 30 years. And to uh be in this band for 30 years. And God has blessed us so much. And he has God has blessed us so much. And he has God has blessed us so much. And he has kept his hands around me when I was kept his hands around me when I was kept his hands around me when I was so foolish and done so so many things so foolish and done so so many things so foolish and done so so many things that were just that I knew better than. that were just that I knew better than. that were just that I knew better than. And you know, cuz uh I I'm not one of And you know, cuz uh I I'm not one of And you know, cuz uh I I'm not one of those people that can say that I didn't those people that can say that I didn't those people that can say that I didn't know any better because I always knew know any better because I always knew know any better because I always knew better. You know, I come from a good better. You know, I come from a good better. You know, I come from a good family and and I'm so thankful for my family and and I'm so thankful for my family and and I'm so thankful for my family and my brothers and sisters and family and my brothers and sisters and family and my brothers and sisters and my mom and dad and and um and and glad my mom and dad and and um and and glad my mom and dad and and um and and glad to be glad to be sitting here.

to be glad to be sitting here. to be glad to be sitting here. >> That's a you I can't believe you've been >> That's a you I can't believe you've been >> That's a you I can't believe you've been playing music that long. playing music that long. playing music that long. >> Very I >> Very I >> Very I >> goes by in a hurry, doesn't it? >> goes by in a hurry, doesn't it? >> goes by in a hurry, doesn't it? >> It really really does. I told a a group >> It really really does. I told a a group >> It really really does. I told a a group of our our first hit Kryptonite. I wrote of our our first hit Kryptonite. I wrote of our our first hit Kryptonite. I wrote it when I was 16 and I'm 46 now. And I it when I was 16 and I'm 46 now. And I it when I was 16 and I'm 46 now. And I was singing to a crowd a couple months was singing to a crowd a couple months was singing to a crowd a couple months ago and I was like, "Well, y'all ago and I was like, "Well, y'all ago and I was like, "Well, y'all probably know this song." Even though probably know this song." Even though probably know this song." Even though this song is probably about 10 years this song is probably about 10 years this song is probably about 10 years older than about everybody in this area. older than about everybody in this area. older than about everybody in this area. It does go by fast though. But you know, It does go by fast though. But you know, It does go by fast though. But you know, I'm old enough now. The the the groups I I'm old enough now. The the the groups I I'm old enough now. The the the groups I was listening to when I was a kid, was listening to when I was a kid, was listening to when I was a kid, they're still touring in wheelchairs and they're still touring in wheelchairs and they're still touring in wheelchairs and they limp out. But there you got a lot they limp out. But there you got a lot they limp out. But there you got a lot of tread left on the tire. Oh man, I I I of tread left on the tire. Oh man, I I I of tread left on the tire. Oh man, I I I feel like I do sometimes and then feel like I do sometimes and then feel like I do sometimes and then sometimes I can get up on the stage and sometimes I can get up on the stage and sometimes I can get up on the stage and I run around and have fun and when I I run around and have fun and when I I run around and have fun and when I walk down the steps I'm like, man, my walk down the steps I'm like, man, my walk down the steps I'm like, man, my knees hurt so bad. You know, this podcast is made possible You know, this podcast is made possible because of sponsors. And one of our because of sponsors. And one of our because of sponsors. And one of our sponsors is Preserve Gold. And I sponsors is Preserve Gold. And I sponsors is Preserve Gold. And I appreciate their partnership with us and appreciate their partnership with us and appreciate their partnership with us and I pray it's a blessing to you. You know, I pray it's a blessing to you. You know, I pray it's a blessing to you. You know, one of the things that I hear most often one of the things that I hear most often one of the things that I hear most often right now is this, that people are doing right now is this, that people are doing right now is this, that people are doing their best to plan for the future, but their best to plan for the future, but their best to plan for the future, but they're not sure what to trust anymore.

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your life, Charlie Daniels. your life, Charlie Daniels. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> I did a podcast with Charlie once upon a >> I did a podcast with Charlie once upon a >> I did a podcast with Charlie once upon a time it seems like now. But I I think he time it seems like now. But I I think he time it seems like now. But I I think he really was a voice in your life that really was a voice in your life that really was a voice in your life that made a difference. Can you tell me a made a difference. Can you tell me a made a difference. Can you tell me a little bit about that? little bit about that? little bit about that? >> Absolutely. He He was and I'm I was so >> Absolutely. He He was and I'm I was so >> Absolutely. He He was and I'm I was so fortunate to get to to meet Mr. Charlie fortunate to get to to meet Mr. Charlie fortunate to get to to meet Mr. Charlie and I was so blessed. Um I got a chance and I was so blessed. Um I got a chance and I was so blessed. Um I got a chance to to write with Mr. Charlie. I was I to to write with Mr. Charlie. I was I to to write with Mr. Charlie. I was I was trying to think of before I came of was trying to think of before I came of was trying to think of before I came of what year that was that I actually wrote what year that was that I actually wrote what year that was that I actually wrote with him. And I want to say if I had to with him. And I want to say if I had to with him. And I want to say if I had to guess it was like 200 five or six. It guess it was like 200 five or six. It guess it was like 200 five or six. It was before I moved to Tennessee even. was before I moved to Tennessee even. was before I moved to Tennessee even. And he was a great man. And I knew right And he was a great man. And I knew right And he was a great man. And I knew right then that that he was one of the then that that he was one of the then that that he was one of the greatest men I'd ever sat down and greatest men I'd ever sat down and greatest men I'd ever sat down and talked to that day cuz he was just he's talked to that day cuz he was just he's talked to that day cuz he was just he's just he was Mr. Charlie, you know, and just he was Mr. Charlie, you know, and just he was Mr. Charlie, you know, and and time went by and we' done different and time went by and we' done different and time went by and we' done different things together and and we kept in things together and and we kept in things together and and we kept in contact and we played the volunteer jam contact and we played the volunteer jam contact and we played the volunteer jam a couple of times with him which is a a couple of times with him which is a a couple of times with him which is a great thing. And and um to uh explain great thing. And and um to uh explain great thing. And and um to uh explain the impact that he had in my life, I the impact that he had in my life, I the impact that he had in my life, I have to acknowledge first that I was an have to acknowledge first that I was an have to acknowledge first that I was an alcoholic for you. I started drinking alcoholic for you. I started drinking alcoholic for you. I started drinking down in Mississippi when I was a down in Mississippi when I was a down in Mississippi when I was a teenager with all my friends like like teenager with all my friends like like teenager with all my friends like like teenagers do and we got signed when I teenagers do and we got signed when I teenagers do and we got signed when I was 20 20 years old and I I stepped on a was 20 20 years old and I I stepped on a was 20 20 years old and I I stepped on a tour bus when I was 20 years old and tour bus when I was 20 years old and tour bus when I was 20 years old and started touring the world and that's a started touring the world and that's a started touring the world and that's a lot. Did you get your first deal with lot. Did you get your first deal with lot. Did you get your first deal with >> uh Universal Records and we stayed with >> uh Universal Records and we stayed with >> uh Universal Records and we stayed with them the entirety of our career and and them the entirety of our career and and them the entirety of our career and and uh we're not we don't technically have a uh we're not we don't technically have a uh we're not we don't technically have a record deal now. Um, but uh it's kind of record deal now. Um, but uh it's kind of record deal now. Um, but uh it's kind of a different world now in the a different world now in the a different world now in the entertainment industry, you know, but uh

entertainment industry, you know, but uh entertainment industry, you know, but uh they were always great company to work they were always great company to work they were always great company to work with, but with, but with, but >> it was it was just a lot to hand a >> it was it was just a lot to hand a >> it was it was just a lot to hand a 20-year-old, you know, and and we done 20-year-old, you know, and and we done 20-year-old, you know, and and we done we done okay, but and you know, there we done okay, but and you know, there we done okay, but and you know, there was no catastrophe in my life that was no catastrophe in my life that was no catastrophe in my life that pushed me to to drinking so much. It was pushed me to to drinking so much. It was pushed me to to drinking so much. It was just kind of the lifestyle. And whether just kind of the lifestyle. And whether just kind of the lifestyle. And whether it just be nerves going on stage or just it just be nerves going on stage or just it just be nerves going on stage or just not being able to sleep in a bus, the not being able to sleep in a bus, the not being able to sleep in a bus, the lifestyle just led me further and lifestyle just led me further and lifestyle just led me further and further down the road before I realized further down the road before I realized further down the road before I realized that I was drinking pretty heavily, you that I was drinking pretty heavily, you that I was drinking pretty heavily, you know, and and things in my life did like know, and and things in my life did like know, and and things in my life did like start to suffer from it substantially. start to suffer from it substantially. start to suffer from it substantially. And there became a point in my life that And there became a point in my life that And there became a point in my life that I could almost 95% of the problems I I could almost 95% of the problems I I could almost 95% of the problems I could point to that bottle and and that could point to that bottle and and that could point to that bottle and and that was the source. And and um my mom had was the source. And and um my mom had was the source. And and um my mom had prayed for me to quit. My brothers and prayed for me to quit. My brothers and prayed for me to quit. My brothers and sisters had prayed for me to quit cuz sisters had prayed for me to quit cuz sisters had prayed for me to quit cuz they seen the road I was going down. And they seen the road I was going down. And they seen the road I was going down. And and uh and uh and uh >> and your family was Pentecostal, so they >> and your family was Pentecostal, so they >> and your family was Pentecostal, so they knew how to pray. knew how to pray. knew how to pray. >> They sure did. >> They sure did. >> They sure did. >> They didn't play polite prayers. >> They didn't play polite prayers. >> They didn't play polite prayers. >> They sure did. And I have two >> They sure did. And I have two >> They sure did. And I have two brother-in-laws that are pastors. brother-in-laws that are pastors. brother-in-laws that are pastors. >> Okay.

>> Okay. >> Okay. >> And and uh so there was a lot of prayers >> And and uh so there was a lot of prayers >> And and uh so there was a lot of prayers being said for me, and I'm thankful for being said for me, and I'm thankful for being said for me, and I'm thankful for every one of them. But um you know every one of them. But um you know every one of them. But um you know finally finally finally I I was I was in Japan one day and we I I was I was in Japan one day and we I I was I was in Japan one day and we were playing the show for the troops and were playing the show for the troops and were playing the show for the troops and I was just kind of having a night and I was just kind of having a night and I was just kind of having a night and and but I I could feel myself slipping and but I I could feel myself slipping and but I I could feel myself slipping away that it wasn't me anymore and I I away that it wasn't me anymore and I I away that it wasn't me anymore and I I could also feel that this wasn't going could also feel that this wasn't going could also feel that this wasn't going to last a lot longer and I tried to call to last a lot longer and I tried to call to last a lot longer and I tried to call a friend and I tried to call a friend a friend and I tried to call a friend a friend and I tried to call a friend and look for somebody I guess just okay and look for somebody I guess just okay and look for somebody I guess just okay it or whatever to validate my feelings it or whatever to validate my feelings it or whatever to validate my feelings and and um I couldn't get anyone on the and and um I couldn't get anyone on the and and um I couldn't get anyone on the phone and I facetimed Mr. Charlie and he phone and I facetimed Mr. Charlie and he phone and I facetimed Mr. Charlie and he and his wife were sitting there on the and his wife were sitting there on the and his wife were sitting there on the couch and it was late at night there and couch and it was late at night there and couch and it was late at night there and it was about midm morning maybe here or it was about midm morning maybe here or it was about midm morning maybe here or however the time worked out. You know, however the time worked out. You know, however the time worked out. You know, it was a big time difference and and I it was a big time difference and and I it was a big time difference and and I was sitting there just sobbing and just was sitting there just sobbing and just was sitting there just sobbing and just telling him how unhappy I was in my telling him how unhappy I was in my telling him how unhappy I was in my life. And and life. And and life. And and he was a great counsel to me before this he was a great counsel to me before this he was a great counsel to me before this time. He always had great advice to tell time. He always had great advice to tell time. He always had great advice to tell me. He said, "Son," he said, 'You know, me. He said, "Son," he said, 'You know, me. He said, "Son," he said, 'You know, he said, "If you if you love your wife he said, "If you if you love your wife he said, "If you if you love your wife and you love God like you say you do, and you love God like you say you do, and you love God like you say you do, you need to come home and you need to go you need to come home and you need to go you need to come home and you need to go rehab." He said, "There's a good place rehab." He said, "There's a good place rehab." He said, "There's a good place in North Nashville there, Cumberland in North Nashville there, Cumberland in North Nashville there, Cumberland Heights, and you need to come on back Heights, and you need to come on back Heights, and you need to come on back home and and uh see about getting in home and and uh see about getting in home and and uh see about getting in there." And I was like, "Well, I'll do there." And I was like, "Well, I'll do there." And I was like, "Well, I'll do that." And I would like to say that I that." And I would like to say that I that." And I would like to say that I got off the phone and was like and got off the phone and was like and got off the phone and was like and called my wife and said, "Baby, I'm called my wife and said, "Baby, I'm called my wife and said, "Baby, I'm going to go to rehab." I called her. I going to go to rehab." I called her. I going to go to rehab." I called her. I was like, "Well, I'm go to rehab. Guess

was like, "Well, I'm go to rehab. Guess was like, "Well, I'm go to rehab. Guess that makes you happy, you know, because that makes you happy, you know, because that makes you happy, you know, because I mean it was. But nonetheless, I uh I mean it was. But nonetheless, I uh I mean it was. But nonetheless, I uh came home and I went and and I I was came home and I went and and I I was came home and I went and and I I was ready for it. I was willing for it and I ready for it. I was willing for it and I ready for it. I was willing for it and I was open to it. And I went in there like was open to it. And I went in there like was open to it. And I went in there like I was going to to learn to learn I was going to to learn to learn I was going to to learn to learn something and and we were working the something and and we were working the something and and we were working the steps and all those things. And I steps and all those things. And I steps and all those things. And I honestly forgot what step it was, but honestly forgot what step it was, but honestly forgot what step it was, but there was a man that came in there to there was a man that came in there to there was a man that came in there to kind of hear your hear your kind of talk kind of hear your hear your kind of talk kind of hear your hear your kind of talk and hear you pour your heart out. And he and hear you pour your heart out. And he and hear you pour your heart out. And he asked me, he said, he said, "Brad," he asked me, he said, he said, "Brad," he asked me, he said, he said, "Brad," he said, "Do you love God?" I said, "Yes, said, "Do you love God?" I said, "Yes, said, "Do you love God?" I said, "Yes, sir. I love God." He said, "Why are you sir. I love God." He said, "Why are you sir. I love God." He said, "Why are you serving yourself?" He said, "You're not serving yourself?" He said, "You're not serving yourself?" He said, "You're not serving God with this." He said, "You're serving God with this." He said, "You're serving God with this." He said, "You're serving yourself." And I It hit me hard. serving yourself." And I It hit me hard. serving yourself." And I It hit me hard. And he said, he said, "Do you love your And he said, he said, "Do you love your And he said, he said, "Do you love your wife?" I said, "Yes, sir. Of course, I wife?" I said, "Yes, sir. Of course, I wife?" I said, "Yes, sir. Of course, I love my wife." He said, "Well, then why love my wife." He said, "Well, then why love my wife." He said, "Well, then why are you trying to kill her husband?" And are you trying to kill her husband?" And are you trying to kill her husband?" And it hit me between the eyes. And uh and I it hit me between the eyes. And uh and I it hit me between the eyes. And uh and I uh that's been the 19th of this month. uh that's been the 19th of this month. uh that's been the 19th of this month. That would have been nuh nine years ago.

That would have been nuh nine years ago. That would have been nuh nine years ago. And those nine years have been the best And those nine years have been the best And those nine years have been the best years of my life. And we started coming years of my life. And we started coming years of my life. And we started coming to church here. And uh I think about to church here. And uh I think about to church here. And uh I think about five years ago. And your sermons have five years ago. And your sermons have five years ago. And your sermons have helped me tremendously, tremendously. helped me tremendously, tremendously. helped me tremendously, tremendously. Um, and they've encouraged me to to Um, and they've encouraged me to to Um, and they've encouraged me to to leave with my faith and and to to not be leave with my faith and and to to not be leave with my faith and and to to not be a a comfortable Christian that sits on a a a comfortable Christian that sits on a a a comfortable Christian that sits on a pew and goes out and and lives how they pew and goes out and and lives how they pew and goes out and and lives how they want, you know, and and uh it's brought want, you know, and and uh it's brought want, you know, and and uh it's brought me to the best place I've ever been in me to the best place I've ever been in me to the best place I've ever been in my entire life. So, thank you. my entire life. So, thank you. my entire life. So, thank you. >> No, you're welcome. God changes lives. >> No, you're welcome. God changes lives. >> No, you're welcome. God changes lives. >> Yes, sir. >> Yes, sir. >> Yes, sir. >> He just uses us to help one another >> He just uses us to help one another >> He just uses us to help one another along the way. along the way. along the way. >> Indeed. You know, and Charlie, he'd >> Indeed. You know, and Charlie, he'd >> Indeed. You know, and Charlie, he'd taken a walk. taken a walk. taken a walk. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Before he got his life in the place he >> Before he got his life in the place he >> Before he got his life in the place he wanted it to be. wanted it to be. wanted it to be. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> And Hazel, her her she came from a >> And Hazel, her her she came from a >> And Hazel, her her she came from a Pentecostal family, so you got some Pentecostal family, so you got some Pentecostal family, so you got some common roots back there with Miss Hazel. common roots back there with Miss Hazel. common roots back there with Miss Hazel. >> Absolutely. I think that's the that's >> Absolutely. I think that's the that's >> Absolutely. I think that's the that's one of the, you know, he one of the, you know, he one of the, you know, he in the like the Zach Williams right in the like the Zach Williams right in the like the Zach Williams right there in the broken pieces there was there in the broken pieces there was there in the broken pieces there was Jesus. You know, I was listening to that Jesus. You know, I was listening to that Jesus. You know, I was listening to that song this morning while I was working song this morning while I was working song this morning while I was working out and uh uh even even when I didn't out and uh uh even even when I didn't out and uh uh even even when I didn't know it and couldn't see it, there was know it and couldn't see it, there was know it and couldn't see it, there was Jesus. And he was there through those Jesus. And he was there through those Jesus. And he was there through those times. And I realize now that all those times. And I realize now that all those times. And I realize now that all those times allowed me to be able to talk to times allowed me to be able to talk to times allowed me to be able to talk to people that otherwise people that otherwise people that otherwise might think before I ever said a word might think before I ever said a word might think before I ever said a word that there's no way he understands,

that there's no way he understands, that there's no way he understands, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> And I do understand because I was there. >> And I do understand because I was there. >> And I do understand because I was there. I was there. And that's and that's I was there. And that's and that's I was there. And that's and that's that's one of the reasons I listened to that's one of the reasons I listened to that's one of the reasons I listened to Mr. Charlie cuz I knew that, you know, Mr. Charlie cuz I knew that, you know, Mr. Charlie cuz I knew that, you know, there was the there was this the 60s and there was the there was this the 60s and there was the there was this the 60s and 70s Mr. Charlie and uh there was the Mr. 70s Mr. Charlie and uh there was the Mr. 70s Mr. Charlie and uh there was the Mr. Charlie that I knew but I knew he knew Charlie that I knew but I knew he knew Charlie that I knew but I knew he knew what I was talking about. what I was talking about. what I was talking about. >> Absolutely. Absolutely. You know, I >> Absolutely. Absolutely. You know, I >> Absolutely. Absolutely. You know, I learned I really learned it from learned I really learned it from learned I really learned it from Charlie. Charlie I mean most people Charlie. Charlie I mean most people Charlie. Charlie I mean most people associate him with country music but associate him with country music but associate him with country music but Charlie just loved music. I mean all Charlie just loved music. I mean all Charlie just loved music. I mean all genres of music. In fact, he was hard to genres of music. In fact, he was hard to genres of music. In fact, he was hard to put in a category, which made it tough put in a category, which made it tough put in a category, which made it tough for him, I think, for a while for him, I think, for a while for him, I think, for a while professionally. professionally. professionally. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> So, I'm curious, music, how'd you get >> So, I'm curious, music, how'd you get >> So, I'm curious, music, how'd you get into it? And I won't make you talk about into it? And I won't make you talk about into it? And I won't make you talk about records the whole time. I promise. I'm records the whole time. I promise. I'm records the whole time. I promise. I'm going to come back to your faith. Uh, going to come back to your faith. Uh, going to come back to your faith. Uh, it's I uh I never remember like not it's I uh I never remember like not it's I uh I never remember like not being into music. Um, and I kind of being into music. Um, and I kind of being into music. Um, and I kind of listen to whatever my brothers and listen to whatever my brothers and listen to whatever my brothers and sisters listen to, and I'm the youngest sisters listen to, and I'm the youngest sisters listen to, and I'm the youngest of seven, and my, uh, my oldest sister, of seven, and my, uh, my oldest sister, of seven, and my, uh, my oldest sister, um, um, um, is probably 18 years older than me. And is probably 18 years older than me. And is probably 18 years older than me. And so, we're kind of spread out and and so, we're kind of spread out and and so, we're kind of spread out and and kind of kind of kind of >> they we are, but my middle sister >> they we are, but my middle sister >> they we are, but my middle sister probably had the most influence over me.

probably had the most influence over me. probably had the most influence over me. And, uh, she listened to all the 80s And, uh, she listened to all the 80s And, uh, she listened to all the 80s rock, but, she also listened to all the rock, but, she also listened to all the rock, but, she also listened to all the 80s Christian. So at the same time as we 80s Christian. So at the same time as we 80s Christian. So at the same time as we listened to like Bon Joy and stuff, I listened to like Bon Joy and stuff, I listened to like Bon Joy and stuff, I grew up listening to Michael W. Smith grew up listening to Michael W. Smith grew up listening to Michael W. Smith and Petra and Steven Curtis Chapman, and Petra and Steven Curtis Chapman, and Petra and Steven Curtis Chapman, >> Bill Kegy, >> Bill Kegy, >> Bill Kegy, >> and and I I loved all those bands and uh >> and and I I loved all those bands and uh >> and and I I loved all those bands and uh I think one of my first concerts I ever I think one of my first concerts I ever I think one of my first concerts I ever went to was Carmen with my church and went to was Carmen with my church and went to was Carmen with my church and that was that was a great time. That's that was that was a great time. That's that was that was a great time. That's fun. fun. fun. >> But you know, I have listened to some of >> But you know, I have listened to some of >> But you know, I have listened to some of your stuff now. You you've not only made your stuff now. You you've not only made your stuff now. You you've not only made a change, you've made a public a change, you've made a public a change, you've made a public declaration of faith. I mean, I've declaration of faith. I mean, I've declaration of faith. I mean, I've listened to several of the the listened to several of the the listened to several of the the statements you've made on stage. statements you've made on stage. statements you've made on stage. I mean, talking about Jesus and your I mean, talking about Jesus and your I mean, talking about Jesus and your faith and I mean, just being real, faith and I mean, just being real, faith and I mean, just being real, you've been more straightforward with you've been more straightforward with you've been more straightforward with your concert audience than a lot of your concert audience than a lot of your concert audience than a lot of pastors, I know. pastors, I know. pastors, I know. >> Well, >> Well, >> Well, >> thank you for that. >> thank you for that. >> thank you for that. >> That's not an accident. >> That's not an accident. >> That's not an accident. >> I am so I am so thankful to have the >> I am so I am so thankful to have the >> I am so I am so thankful to have the chance. And it it's kind of well I it chance. And it it's kind of well I it chance. And it it's kind of well I it was a couple of years ago and um I was was a couple of years ago and um I was was a couple of years ago and um I was just kind of sitting in the quiet um one just kind of sitting in the quiet um one just kind of sitting in the quiet um one night and and night and and night and and like you said Saturday night in in in like you said Saturday night in in in like you said Saturday night in in in church you said you heard a voice as church you said you heard a voice as church you said you heard a voice as clear as you've as if someone was clear as you've as if someone was clear as you've as if someone was speaking to you. I heard Jesus say to me speaking to you. I heard Jesus say to me speaking to you. I heard Jesus say to me he said Brad I want you to tell him that he said Brad I want you to tell him that he said Brad I want you to tell him that I love him this summer.

I love him this summer. I love him this summer. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> And I was like >> And I was like >> And I was like okay. And and shortly before that, I okay. And and shortly before that, I okay. And and shortly before that, I learned not to question when Jesus said learned not to question when Jesus said learned not to question when Jesus said something because I'll try to make this something because I'll try to make this something because I'll try to make this just as quick as I can. We're good. But just as quick as I can. We're good. But just as quick as I can. We're good. But I had a I had a wet spot in my yard that I had a I had a wet spot in my yard that I had a I had a wet spot in my yard that just kept getting wetter and wetter and just kept getting wetter and wetter and just kept getting wetter and wetter and wetter and wetter and wetter. It was out wetter and wetter and wetter. It was out wetter and wetter and wetter. It was out by my field lines. So I was like, "Well, by my field lines. So I was like, "Well, by my field lines. So I was like, "Well, field lines leaking or water lines field lines leaking or water lines field lines leaking or water lines leaking or something." So I had a leaking or something." So I had a leaking or something." So I had a plumber come over and plumber come over and plumber come over and >> and if you're a city person, that's the >> and if you're a city person, that's the >> and if you're a city person, that's the sewer system for his house. It was sewer system for his house. It was sewer system for his house. It was leaking in the yard. leaking in the yard. leaking in the yard. >> Yes, sir. Or you thought it was >> Yes, sir. Or you thought it was >> Yes, sir. Or you thought it was >> I thought it was and all signs pointed >> I thought it was and all signs pointed >> I thought it was and all signs pointed it to either being that or or a uh or it to either being that or or a uh or it to either being that or or a uh or the water supply line coming in. And so the water supply line coming in. And so the water supply line coming in. And so I hired a plumber and he brought back I hired a plumber and he brought back I hired a plumber and he brought back over and we started digging and we dug 2 over and we started digging and we dug 2 over and we started digging and we dug 2 ft wide, 2 ft deep that way until it ft wide, 2 ft deep that way until it ft wide, 2 ft deep that way until it started getting dry. And so we went the started getting dry. And so we went the started getting dry. And so we went the other way and it started getting dry. other way and it started getting dry. other way and it started getting dry. We're like what where is this water We're like what where is this water We're like what where is this water coming from? It's like it's not the fill coming from? It's like it's not the fill coming from? It's like it's not the fill line, it's not the water supply. And I line, it's not the water supply. And I line, it's not the water supply. And I live pretty far off the road. My live pretty far off the road. My live pretty far off the road. My driveway is probably a third of a mile driveway is probably a third of a mile driveway is probably a third of a mile long. And I was seriously sitting there long. And I was seriously sitting there long. And I was seriously sitting there contemplating, am I going to put in a contemplating, am I going to put in a contemplating, am I going to put in a new water line out to this house? And so new water line out to this house? And so new water line out to this house? And so about a week before that, I had $150 about a week before that, I had $150 about a week before that, I had $150 I think in my pocket. And I was I think in my pocket. And I was I think in my pocket. And I was somewhere, it might have been here at somewhere, it might have been here at somewhere, it might have been here at church or it might have been down in church or it might have been down in church or it might have been down in Mississippi at my parents' church. And I Mississippi at my parents' church. And I Mississippi at my parents' church. And I just put theund God said put it all in

just put theund God said put it all in just put theund God said put it all in there. And I said, "Well, I I I might there. And I said, "Well, I I I might there. And I said, "Well, I I I might need that 50 for something later today, need that 50 for something later today, need that 50 for something later today, something I was going to do." And he and something I was going to do." And he and something I was going to do." And he and so I put it in there and and it didn't so I put it in there and and it didn't so I put it in there and and it didn't feel right in my heart. And so we had feel right in my heart. And so we had feel right in my heart. And so we had searched this and this was a couple of searched this and this was a couple of searched this and this was a couple of weeks later that we were out here weeks later that we were out here weeks later that we were out here digging this fill line up. And I I got digging this fill line up. And I I got digging this fill line up. And I I got up under my house. I was like, I'm going up under my house. I was like, I'm going up under my house. I was like, I'm going to see I'm going to see if I can find to see I'm going to see if I can find to see I'm going to see if I can find where this is coming in the house. And where this is coming in the house. And where this is coming in the house. And there's a little uh pool house. I don't there's a little uh pool house. I don't there's a little uh pool house. I don't have a fancy pool or anything, but have a fancy pool or anything, but have a fancy pool or anything, but there's a little bitty house out there there's a little bitty house out there there's a little bitty house out there by it's got a little restroom in it. And by it's got a little restroom in it. And by it's got a little restroom in it. And and uh I was in the house looking and I and uh I was in the house looking and I and uh I was in the house looking and I said I was at a loss. I said, "God, said I was at a loss. I said, "God, said I was at a loss. I said, "God, please." I was like, "Help us figure please." I was like, "Help us figure please." I was like, "Help us figure this out, please." And cuz I don't think this out, please." And cuz I don't think this out, please." And cuz I don't think there's anything too mundane to ask God there's anything too mundane to ask God there's anything too mundane to ask God for help with. for help with. for help with. >> And he said, >> And he said, >> And he said, "Next time I tell you to do something, "Next time I tell you to do something, "Next time I tell you to do something, you going to do it?" I said, "Yes." He you going to do it?" I said, "Yes." He you going to do it?" I said, "Yes." He said, "Go check the toilet in that said, "Go check the toilet in that said, "Go check the toilet in that little bathroom." And I went in there little bathroom." And I went in there little bathroom." And I went in there and this toilet was leaking. We went and and this toilet was leaking. We went and and this toilet was leaking. We went and it stopped and that was where all that it stopped and that was where all that it stopped and that was where all that water had come from. So it taught me not water had come from. So it taught me not water had come from. So it taught me not to question when God told me to do to question when God told me to do to question when God told me to do something. So he told me that night, he something. So he told me that night, he something. So he told me that night, he said, Brad, I want you to tell them that said, Brad, I want you to tell them that said, Brad, I want you to tell them that I love them this summer. And I said, I I love them this summer. And I said, I I love them this summer. And I said, I absolutely will.

absolutely will. absolutely will. I said, but I don't know how to go about I said, but I don't know how to go about I said, but I don't know how to go about that at a rock concert in front of that at a rock concert in front of that at a rock concert in front of people that are standing there, half of people that are standing there, half of people that are standing there, half of them, quarter of them standing there them, quarter of them standing there them, quarter of them standing there with a beer in their hand, you know. And with a beer in their hand, you know. And with a beer in their hand, you know. And he said, "I'll tell you what to say. he said, "I'll tell you what to say. he said, "I'll tell you what to say. Don't worry about it. You just do it." Don't worry about it. You just do it." Don't worry about it. You just do it." And I said, "I will." And so I did it And I said, "I will." And so I did it And I said, "I will." And so I did it all summer. And the response to it was all summer. And the response to it was all summer. And the response to it was overwhelming. I expected some push back. overwhelming. I expected some push back. overwhelming. I expected some push back. I really honestly did. I got none. I got I really honestly did. I got none. I got I really honestly did. I got none. I got I mean, I'm You get the people out in I mean, I'm You get the people out in I mean, I'm You get the people out in the crowd kind of rolling their eyes a the crowd kind of rolling their eyes a the crowd kind of rolling their eyes a little bit here and there, but the little bit here and there, but the little bit here and there, but the response that I got on social media, response that I got on social media, response that I got on social media, people would send me messages. It's like people would send me messages. It's like people would send me messages. It's like that was so refreshing to hear somebody that was so refreshing to hear somebody that was so refreshing to hear somebody say that. And because I firmly believe say that. And because I firmly believe say that. And because I firmly believe that the world is so hungry for it and that the world is so hungry for it and that the world is so hungry for it and uh uh before this past summer uh which uh uh before this past summer uh which uh uh before this past summer uh which we went out with Creed which is a and in we went out with Creed which is a and in we went out with Creed which is a and in and Scott's pretty spiritual guy himself and Scott's pretty spiritual guy himself and Scott's pretty spiritual guy himself and he grew up in a Christian home and and he grew up in a Christian home and and he grew up in a Christian home and he's great dude and um I was writing he's great dude and um I was writing he's great dude and um I was writing with Ben Fuller and and we were we were with Ben Fuller and and we were we were with Ben Fuller and and we were we were praying before we got to to writing and praying before we got to to writing and praying before we got to to writing and talking about it. He said I he said I talking about it. He said I he said I talking about it. He said I he said I bet you'll be more bold this summer. And bet you'll be more bold this summer. And bet you'll be more bold this summer. And I was like well how can I do that? And I was like well how can I do that? And I was like well how can I do that? And I was seeing an Instagram post about I was seeing an Instagram post about I was seeing an Instagram post about John saying that I am the one that Jesus John saying that I am the one that Jesus John saying that I am the one that Jesus loves, how he described himself. And I loves, how he described himself. And I loves, how he described himself. And I was like, was like, was like, that's a good something that I can build that's a good something that I can build that's a good something that I can build on. And all this while I firmly realized on. And all this while I firmly realized on. And all this while I firmly realized that we that we that we fight against principalities in this

fight against principalities in this fight against principalities in this world. And I think a lot of those world. And I think a lot of those world. And I think a lot of those principalities are very very very very principalities are very very very very principalities are very very very very very involved in music. And we say and very involved in music. And we say and very involved in music. And we say and have said a prayer for years before we have said a prayer for years before we have said a prayer for years before we went on stage. We pray to God, the God, went on stage. We pray to God, the God, went on stage. We pray to God, the God, our God, the living God. But I firmly our God, the living God. But I firmly our God, the living God. But I firmly believe that there are people that say believe that there are people that say believe that there are people that say prayers before they go on stage that prayers before they go on stage that prayers before they go on stage that aren't praying to him. aren't praying to him. aren't praying to him. >> And I believe that people go into >> And I believe that people go into >> And I believe that people go into concerts concerts concerts and they put themselves in a position and they put themselves in a position and they put themselves in a position that they don't realize that they put that they don't realize that they put that they don't realize that they put themselves in. and cuz they go in there themselves in. and cuz they go in there themselves in. and cuz they go in there willingly and you know we pray for the willingly and you know we pray for the willingly and you know we pray for the crowd, we pray for our band, we pray for crowd, we pray for our band, we pray for crowd, we pray for our band, we pray for all the crew and we pray for everything. all the crew and we pray for everything. all the crew and we pray for everything. Um, but I thought, you know, if our Um, but I thought, you know, if our Um, but I thought, you know, if our words are the most powerful things that words are the most powerful things that words are the most powerful things that we have, we have, we have, how can I get people to speak a blessing how can I get people to speak a blessing how can I get people to speak a blessing over their life? And and so I just talk over their life? And and so I just talk over their life? And and so I just talk about like, you know, and we constantly about like, you know, and we constantly about like, you know, and we constantly have our phones in our face and they're have our phones in our face and they're have our phones in our face and they're showing us all the things that we don't showing us all the things that we don't showing us all the things that we don't have and that we're somebody richer or have and that we're somebody richer or have and that we're somebody richer or prettier or stronger or this or that.

prettier or stronger or this or that. prettier or stronger or this or that. And and they're constantly showing us And and they're constantly showing us And and they're constantly showing us that we're not enough. And so I started that we're not enough. And so I started that we're not enough. And so I started the message with like, you are enough. the message with like, you are enough. the message with like, you are enough. You know, you you are enough and you're You know, you you are enough and you're You know, you you are enough and you're enough because Jesus Christ loves you. enough because Jesus Christ loves you. enough because Jesus Christ loves you. And and I talked about I said, you know, And and I talked about I said, you know, And and I talked about I said, you know, and one of the disciples described and one of the disciples described and one of the disciples described himself as the one that Jesus loves. So himself as the one that Jesus loves. So himself as the one that Jesus loves. So you just speak a a blessing over your you just speak a a blessing over your you just speak a a blessing over your life with me and just repeat after me life with me and just repeat after me life with me and just repeat after me just one sentence. And I'd get the crowd just one sentence. And I'd get the crowd just one sentence. And I'd get the crowd to just say, "I am the one that Jesus to just say, "I am the one that Jesus to just say, "I am the one that Jesus loves." And probably at least three out loves." And probably at least three out loves." And probably at least three out of five people say it like fervently. of five people say it like fervently. of five people say it like fervently. And uh at the end of this tour, I uh I And uh at the end of this tour, I uh I And uh at the end of this tour, I uh I counted up as close as I could off some counted up as close as I could off some counted up as close as I could off some kind of uh merch receipts and stuff that kind of uh merch receipts and stuff that kind of uh merch receipts and stuff that we have from from headcounts of the we have from from headcounts of the we have from from headcounts of the shows that uh I got to say that in front shows that uh I got to say that in front shows that uh I got to say that in front of about 680,000 people this summer. And of about 680,000 people this summer. And of about 680,000 people this summer. And so I figure at least 300,000 of them so I figure at least 300,000 of them so I figure at least 300,000 of them said it. said it. said it. >> And um >> And um >> And um >> and you know, even if it was even they >> and you know, even if it was even they >> and you know, even if it was even they didn't realize it, they're still didn't realize it, they're still didn't realize it, they're still speaking a blessing over their life. And speaking a blessing over their life. And speaking a blessing over their life. And and to me, that is the highlight of my and to me, that is the highlight of my and to me, that is the highlight of my career. If I never get to do anything career. If I never get to do anything career. If I never get to do anything else, I'm so thankful that God allowed else, I'm so thankful that God allowed else, I'm so thankful that God allowed me to do that this summer.

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nutrition.com. nutrition.com. Let's make choices to be healthier and Let's make choices to be healthier and Let's make choices to be healthier and maybe we can limit the pharmaceuticals maybe we can limit the pharmaceuticals maybe we can limit the pharmaceuticals we'll be dependent upon. That would be a we'll be dependent upon. That would be a we'll be dependent upon. That would be a God thing. God's moving in the earth and God thing. God's moving in the earth and God thing. God's moving in the earth and we can be a part of it by what we put in we can be a part of it by what we put in we can be a part of it by what we put in our fork and not just the pills we take. our fork and not just the pills we take. our fork and not just the pills we take. You know, it makes me smile. You know, it makes me smile. You know, it makes me smile. God uses unlikely characters. You know, God uses unlikely characters. You know, God uses unlikely characters. You know, in First Corinthians, it says God in First Corinthians, it says God in First Corinthians, it says God chooses the weak and the foolish and the chooses the weak and the foolish and the chooses the weak and the foolish and the people that weren't from noble families people that weren't from noble families people that weren't from noble families to confound the wisdom of the world. And to confound the wisdom of the world. And to confound the wisdom of the world. And I feel I tell the church a lot of times, I feel I tell the church a lot of times, I feel I tell the church a lot of times, you know, that um I feel like a talking you know, that um I feel like a talking you know, that um I feel like a talking donkey that every time I read Balum's donkey that every time I read Balum's donkey that every time I read Balum's story, it gives me hope that God can story, it gives me hope that God can story, it gives me hope that God can deliver a message through a donkey. So, deliver a message through a donkey. So, deliver a message through a donkey. So, I'm in for the weekend. And when I I I'm in for the weekend. And when I I I'm in for the weekend. And when I I hear your story, I mean, you grew up in hear your story, I mean, you grew up in hear your story, I mean, you grew up in a Christian home and you knew the story. a Christian home and you knew the story. a Christian home and you knew the story. You took a walk. You took a walk. You took a walk. That doesn't make you particularly That doesn't make you particularly That doesn't make you particularly unique. And God put the voices you unique. And God put the voices you unique. And God put the voices you needed to help you get back on track. needed to help you get back on track. needed to help you get back on track. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> And so he recruits a lead singer of a >> And so he recruits a lead singer of a >> And so he recruits a lead singer of a rock band to deliver a message that is rock band to deliver a message that is rock band to deliver a message that is desperately needed in our nation to a desperately needed in our nation to a desperately needed in our nation to a group of people who probably aren't group of people who probably aren't group of people who probably aren't going to church, a lot of them. and going to church, a lot of them. and going to church, a lot of them. and you're willing to be more honest and you're willing to be more honest and you're willing to be more honest and more truthful about yourself and the more truthful about yourself and the more truthful about yourself and the Lord, unfortunately, than a lot of Lord, unfortunately, than a lot of Lord, unfortunately, than a lot of pastors I know. But that sounds exactly pastors I know. But that sounds exactly pastors I know. But that sounds exactly like God to me. Good work. Thank you like God to me. Good work. Thank you like God to me. Good work. Thank you very much. I I I just I I it's it's it's very much. I I I just I I it's it's it's very much. I I I just I I it's it's it's strange that I I was thinking about this strange that I I was thinking about this strange that I I was thinking about this earlier today, too, and I've thought earlier today, too, and I've thought earlier today, too, and I've thought about it a lot of times, but about it a lot of times, but about it a lot of times, but you know, I think God I mean, I know God

you know, I think God I mean, I know God you know, I think God I mean, I know God He We plan our steps. He he plans the He We plan our steps. He he plans the He We plan our steps. He he plans the course, you know, and he has a course course, you know, and he has a course course, you know, and he has a course for us set out, but God put a thought in for us set out, but God put a thought in for us set out, but God put a thought in my head when I was a little kid. And if my head when I was a little kid. And if my head when I was a little kid. And if there's I don't even re remember being a there's I don't even re remember being a there's I don't even re remember being a little kid that much, but I remember and little kid that much, but I remember and little kid that much, but I remember and it's before I played music or before it's before I played music or before it's before I played music or before anything. And God had to have put this anything. And God had to have put this anything. And God had to have put this prayer in my heart because I said it as prayer in my heart because I said it as prayer in my heart because I said it as a little bitty kid. He's like, and I a little bitty kid. He's like, and I a little bitty kid. He's like, and I said, "God, if I'm ever in a position said, "God, if I'm ever in a position said, "God, if I'm ever in a position that people see me, I want them to see that people see me, I want them to see that people see me, I want them to see you." And I know that he put that you." And I know that he put that you." And I know that he put that thought there. then and and I thought thought there. then and and I thought thought there. then and and I thought for so many years why and over the last for so many years why and over the last for so many years why and over the last couple of years it got answered like the couple of years it got answered like the couple of years it got answered like the biggest why one of the biggest wise in biggest why one of the biggest wise in biggest why one of the biggest wise in my life was answered and I mean my life was answered and I mean my life was answered and I mean he's blessed me so much and he's and you he's blessed me so much and he's and you he's blessed me so much and he's and you know I know he watched me take that walk know I know he watched me take that walk know I know he watched me take that walk and I know that he was disappointed me and I know that he was disappointed me and I know that he was disappointed me in a lot of the decisions I make and in a lot of the decisions I make and in a lot of the decisions I make and probably a lot of the decisions that I probably a lot of the decisions that I probably a lot of the decisions that I still make. Um, but still make. Um, but still make. Um, but I'm if I know that he put me in this I'm if I know that he put me in this I'm if I know that he put me in this position that I'm in to to say that two position that I'm in to to say that two position that I'm in to to say that two minute, you know, cuz I don't go on and minute, you know, cuz I don't go on and minute, you know, cuz I don't go on and on. I know that I have a very short on. I know that I have a very short on. I know that I have a very short window before people start shutting window before people start shutting window before people start shutting down.

down. down. >> And um, and people aren't at a rock show >> And um, and people aren't at a rock show >> And um, and people aren't at a rock show to to be to be preached at, you know, to to be to be preached at, you know, to to be to be preached at, you know, but I want to share that with them. And but I want to share that with them. And but I want to share that with them. And I know that he put me in this position I know that he put me in this position I know that he put me in this position to do exactly that. And I don't care if to do exactly that. And I don't care if to do exactly that. And I don't care if it cost me my career. I don't care if it it cost me my career. I don't care if it it cost me my career. I don't care if it cost me my life. I honestly I can honest cost me my life. I honestly I can honest cost me my life. I honestly I can honest honestly 100% say that I don't care. honestly 100% say that I don't care. honestly 100% say that I don't care. It's it's the greatest thing I've ever It's it's the greatest thing I've ever It's it's the greatest thing I've ever got to do. But and I went into it with got to do. But and I went into it with got to do. But and I went into it with that attitude even though I was a little that attitude even though I was a little that attitude even though I was a little bit kind of apprehensive because I just bit kind of apprehensive because I just bit kind of apprehensive because I just didn't I didn't want to misdeliver a didn't I didn't want to misdeliver a didn't I didn't want to misdeliver a message and I didn't know how how to say message and I didn't know how how to say message and I didn't know how how to say it exactly. Um because I don't talk on it exactly. Um because I don't talk on it exactly. Um because I don't talk on stage. We play songs and I say thank stage. We play songs and I say thank stage. We play songs and I say thank you, God bless you, and then we play the you, God bless you, and then we play the you, God bless you, and then we play the next song. next song. next song. >> Well, that works out really well because >> Well, that works out really well because >> Well, that works out really well because I don't sing on stage. I just talk. So, I don't sing on stage. I just talk. So, I don't sing on stage. I just talk. So, we make a team. >> Well, I you know, you said something >> Well, I you know, you said something that I want to come back to for just a that I want to come back to for just a that I want to come back to for just a minute because I think there's um minute because I think there's um minute because I think there's um there's an attack in our minds when we there's an attack in our minds when we there's an attack in our minds when we decide we're going to stand up for the decide we're going to stand up for the decide we're going to stand up for the Lord that there's going to be this this Lord that there's going to be this this Lord that there's going to be this this um crippling cost with it. I think the um crippling cost with it. I think the um crippling cost with it. I think the devil I mean just it does it to me and devil I mean just it does it to me and devil I mean just it does it to me and you got this choice whether I can avoid you got this choice whether I can avoid you got this choice whether I can avoid it or overlook it or act like I didn't it or overlook it or act like I didn't it or overlook it or act like I didn't hear it or if I don't ignore the feeling hear it or if I don't ignore the feeling hear it or if I don't ignore the feeling that this is what I should do or you own that this is what I should do or you own that this is what I should do or you own it but I'm of the opin in my life at it but I'm of the opin in my life at it but I'm of the opin in my life at this point and I'm still really a young this point and I'm still really a young this point and I'm still really a young guy so I got some road to travel but to guy so I got some road to travel but to guy so I got some road to travel but to this point everything every place I've this point everything every place I've this point everything every place I've been obedient with the Lord and I have been obedient with the Lord and I have been obedient with the Lord and I have told the truth

told the truth told the truth the Lord has honored it and blessed my the Lord has honored it and blessed my the Lord has honored it and blessed my life now yeah I've been uninvited or I I life now yeah I've been uninvited or I I life now yeah I've been uninvited or I I mean there's been but it the the good mean there's been but it the the good mean there's been but it the the good has far outweighed any cost that I could has far outweighed any cost that I could has far outweighed any cost that I could see. see. see. >> Have you found that to be true? >> Have you found that to be true? >> Have you found that to be true? >> Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean we've >> Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean we've >> Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean we've been more I mean if there's a I see the been more I mean if there's a I see the been more I mean if there's a I see the response from people. I've got letters response from people. I've got letters response from people. I've got letters from you know because I I I you know from you know because I I I you know from you know because I I I you know like I said from the beginning if it like I said from the beginning if it like I said from the beginning if it helps one person it's worth saying it a helps one person it's worth saying it a helps one person it's worth saying it a thousand times. But I've got letters thousand times. But I've got letters thousand times. But I've got letters from people online and physical letters from people online and physical letters from people online and physical letters that that people have handed me. One of that that people have handed me. One of that that people have handed me. One of them is is framed in my office and but them is is framed in my office and but them is is framed in my office and but nobody goes in my office. Nobody really nobody goes in my office. Nobody really nobody goes in my office. Nobody really comes to my house. But I mean it's comes to my house. But I mean it's comes to my house. But I mean it's framed in my office where nobody else framed in my office where nobody else framed in my office where nobody else really sees it but it reminds me and really sees it but it reminds me and really sees it but it reminds me and it's a letter from a man that uh that it's a letter from a man that uh that it's a letter from a man that uh that said you saved my life said you saved my life said you saved my life >> with that with that speech. He said I >> with that with that speech. He said I >> with that with that speech. He said I had already decided that I was I was had already decided that I was I was had already decided that I was I was done and I was leaving this world. He done and I was leaving this world. He done and I was leaving this world. He said, "But I wanted to go to a concert said, "But I wanted to go to a concert said, "But I wanted to go to a concert before I left." And he said, "You said before I left." And he said, "You said before I left." And he said, "You said that?" And I went and I read my Bible.

that?" And I went and I read my Bible. that?" And I went and I read my Bible. He said, "It changed my life." And He said, "It changed my life." And He said, "It changed my life." And the first 10 times I read that letter, I the first 10 times I read that letter, I the first 10 times I read that letter, I cried. And I I put it I put it somewhere cried. And I I put it I put it somewhere cried. And I I put it I put it somewhere where like, you know, to where I don't where like, you know, to where I don't where like, you know, to where I don't want it in a in a brag spot. I wanted in want it in a in a brag spot. I wanted in want it in a in a brag spot. I wanted in a spot where I can when I'm having a day a spot where I can when I'm having a day a spot where I can when I'm having a day that I can look at that and then what that I can look at that and then what that I can look at that and then what you and just be thankful that God you and just be thankful that God you and just be thankful that God allowed me to help that person. And and allowed me to help that person. And and allowed me to help that person. And and you're absolutely right. The positive you're absolutely right. The positive you're absolutely right. The positive has so outweighed the negative. I mean, has so outweighed the negative. I mean, has so outweighed the negative. I mean, you know, you like like I said, you you you know, you like like I said, you you you know, you like like I said, you you see a eye roll here or there, but you see a eye roll here or there, but you see a eye roll here or there, but you see people see people see people more eye rolls than I see right in the more eye rolls than I see right in the more eye rolls than I see right in the middle of a rock concert. I see this middle of a rock concert. I see this middle of a rock concert. I see this toward the stage. And I love it. I love toward the stage. And I love it. I love toward the stage. And I love it. I love it. it. it. >> Oh, that is awesome. >> Oh, that is awesome. >> Oh, that is awesome. >> And and um you know, I kind of pair it >> And and um you know, I kind of pair it >> And and um you know, I kind of pair it with the song Away from the Sun, which with the song Away from the Sun, which with the song Away from the Sun, which was the title track off our second was the title track off our second was the title track off our second record. But that song has a lot of record. But that song has a lot of record. But that song has a lot of Christian connotations in it on purpose Christian connotations in it on purpose Christian connotations in it on purpose because I felt like so many times that because I felt like so many times that because I felt like so many times that were so far down away from the sun. you were so far down away from the sun. you were so far down away from the sun. you know, in the in the song it's spelled s know, in the in the song it's spelled s know, in the in the song it's spelled s u n, but it could so very easily be the u n, but it could so very easily be the u n, but it could so very easily be the s o n. And um s o n. And um s o n. And um we've always I you I've always tried to we've always I you I've always tried to we've always I you I've always tried to make songs that that help help people make songs that that help help people make songs that that help help people through situations.

through situations. through situations. But But But again, it's just it's just led me back again, it's just it's just led me back again, it's just it's just led me back to just being thankful to to help him to just being thankful to to help him to just being thankful to to help him just to acknowledge him and to just to acknowledge him and to just to acknowledge him and to acknowledge that that Jesus loves me, acknowledge that that Jesus loves me, acknowledge that that Jesus loves me, you know, and uh that's such a powerful you know, and uh that's such a powerful you know, and uh that's such a powerful such a powerful it's the most powerful such a powerful it's the most powerful such a powerful it's the most powerful thing in the world is just to know that thing in the world is just to know that thing in the world is just to know that Jesus loves you. Jesus loves you. Jesus loves you. >> Well, and being obedient. >> Well, and being obedient. >> Well, and being obedient. >> Absolutely. I mean, we don't all we all >> Absolutely. I mean, we don't all we all >> Absolutely. I mean, we don't all we all work in different arenas and have work in different arenas and have work in different arenas and have different assignments, but you on different assignments, but you on different assignments, but you on purpose intentionally took your faith to purpose intentionally took your faith to purpose intentionally took your faith to work. work. work. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> And there's a lot of voices that would >> And there's a lot of voices that would >> And there's a lot of voices that would tell you not to do that or you shouldn't tell you not to do that or you shouldn't tell you not to do that or you shouldn't do that or it's going to be death to do that or it's going to be death to do that or it's going to be death to your career or you're going to lose your career or you're going to lose your career or you're going to lose audience audience audience and you are the opposite happened. The and you are the opposite happened. The and you are the opposite happened. The Lord blessed you. Lord blessed you. Lord blessed you. >> He did. He He really really has. And I >> He did. He He really really has. And I >> He did. He He really really has. And I mean honestly, you know, I was like, mean honestly, you know, I was like, mean honestly, you know, I was like, well, you know, you kind of tell how well, you know, you kind of tell how well, you know, you kind of tell how good you did sometimes. it shows by the good you did sometimes. it shows by the good you did sometimes. it shows by the merch count, you know, and merch count, you know, and merch count, you know, and since I started talking about that on since I started talking about that on since I started talking about that on stage, I say quite honestly, we've sold stage, I say quite honestly, we've sold stage, I say quite honestly, we've sold more merch than we've ever sold in our more merch than we've ever sold in our more merch than we've ever sold in our entire career. I mean, it's just I I entire career. I mean, it's just I I entire career. I mean, it's just I I mean that completely honestly and and mean that completely honestly and and mean that completely honestly and and people like from so many different people like from so many different people like from so many different arenas of life had messaged me and like, arenas of life had messaged me and like, arenas of life had messaged me and like, man, that was the highlight of my show.

man, that was the highlight of my show. man, that was the highlight of my show. I like I mean your show is great but I like I mean your show is great but I like I mean your show is great but that was the best thing about it and that was the best thing about it and that was the best thing about it and from people that you click on their page from people that you click on their page from people that you click on their page and it's not necessarily what you'd and it's not necessarily what you'd and it's not necessarily what you'd expect to come from that person and and expect to come from that person and and expect to come from that person and and he has blessed us so so tremendously. he has blessed us so so tremendously. he has blessed us so so tremendously. >> Well, I want to say thank you. Go ahead. >> Well, I want to say thank you. Go ahead. >> Well, I want to say thank you. Go ahead. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. >> And you and you really really encouraged >> And you and you really really encouraged >> And you and you really really encouraged me to do that and your sermons of of of me to do that and your sermons of of of me to do that and your sermons of of of like whatever when you said whatever like whatever when you said whatever like whatever when you said whatever arena of life that that you work in, arena of life that that you work in, arena of life that that you work in, take it there. That's it. take it there. That's it. take it there. That's it. >> And and you encouraged me to do that. I >> And and you encouraged me to do that. I >> And and you encouraged me to do that. I mean, mean, mean, >> and you didn't do it because you were >> and you didn't do it because you were >> and you didn't do it because you were perfect or you never made a mistake or perfect or you never made a mistake or perfect or you never made a mistake or you did it in spite of that. you did it in spite of that. you did it in spite of that. >> And that >> And that >> And that >> we all do it in spite of that. >> we all do it in spite of that. >> we all do it in spite of that. >> Amen. And and that was the biggest >> Amen. And and that was the biggest >> Amen. And and that was the biggest hurdle for me was realizing hurdle for me was realizing hurdle for me was realizing that I didn't that I'd never be worthy that I didn't that I'd never be worthy that I didn't that I'd never be worthy to carry that message, you know, and to carry that message, you know, and to carry that message, you know, and because I was like, I I'm not really because I was like, I I'm not really because I was like, I I'm not really worthy to get up there and say that. But worthy to get up there and say that. But worthy to get up there and say that. But I mean, you know, like isn't call the I mean, you know, like isn't call the I mean, you know, like isn't call the prepared even you're not worthy.

prepared even you're not worthy. prepared even you're not worthy. >> I'm not. >> I'm not. >> I'm not. >> But we're bragging on the one who made >> But we're bragging on the one who made >> But we're bragging on the one who made us worthy. us worthy. us worthy. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> You know, we're not telling our story. >> You know, we're not telling our story. >> You know, we're not telling our story. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> We're not there cuz we're smarter, >> We're not there cuz we're smarter, >> We're not there cuz we're smarter, bright, talented. The Lord has blessed bright, talented. The Lord has blessed bright, talented. The Lord has blessed us. us. us. >> Amen. This year we celebrate 250 years of This year we celebrate 250 years of God's faithfulness to our nation. From God's faithfulness to our nation. From God's faithfulness to our nation. From backyard picnics and ball games to backyard picnics and ball games to backyard picnics and ball games to laughter shared with family and friends, laughter shared with family and friends, laughter shared with family and friends, we've been given so many blessings to we've been given so many blessings to we've been given so many blessings to enjoy together. And in a world that enjoy together. And in a world that enjoy together. And in a world that feels increasingly divided, these feels increasingly divided, these feels increasingly divided, these moments remind us of what matters most. moments remind us of what matters most. moments remind us of what matters most. faith, freedom, family, and community. faith, freedom, family, and community. faith, freedom, family, and community. Alan Jackson Ministries wants to help Alan Jackson Ministries wants to help Alan Jackson Ministries wants to help you carry that message with you wherever you carry that message with you wherever you carry that message with you wherever you may go. This outdoor blanket and you may go. This outdoor blanket and you may go. This outdoor blanket and canvas tote bag are simple reminders of canvas tote bag are simple reminders of canvas tote bag are simple reminders of God's goodness and a way to spark God's goodness and a way to spark God's goodness and a way to spark meaningful conversations about faith and meaningful conversations about faith and meaningful conversations about faith and the hope we have in him. Request your the hope we have in him. Request your the hope we have in him. Request your limited edition tote bag and outdoor limited edition tote bag and outdoor limited edition tote bag and outdoor blanket today with your gift of $100 or blanket today with your gift of $100 or blanket today with your gift of $100 or more at alenaxton.com more at alenaxton.com more at alenaxton.com or call 800880-5102.

So you you we started this a few minutes So you you we started this a few minutes ago, you said after you facetimed ago, you said after you facetimed ago, you said after you facetimed Charlie and he told you you need to get Charlie and he told you you need to get Charlie and he told you you need to get straight, you called your wife and maybe straight, you called your wife and maybe straight, you called your wife and maybe you weren't in the best frame of mind. you weren't in the best frame of mind. you weren't in the best frame of mind. >> No. >> No. >> No. >> So how's that unfolding these days? What >> So how's that unfolding these days? What >> So how's that unfolding these days? What did Jen have to say about your faith? did Jen have to say about your faith? did Jen have to say about your faith? >> I have a she, you know, uh she's such a >> I have a she, you know, uh she's such a >> I have a she, you know, uh she's such a she's such a great girl. My wife is is she's such a great girl. My wife is is she's such a great girl. My wife is is so great. And uh actually she and I not so great. And uh actually she and I not so great. And uh actually she and I not this past October, but uh the previous this past October, but uh the previous this past October, but uh the previous October at the last uh fall festival, um October at the last uh fall festival, um October at the last uh fall festival, um we got baptized here and we had both we got baptized here and we had both we got baptized here and we had both been baptized as children. Um but we been baptized as children. Um but we been baptized as children. Um but we were coming up and I was like, "Let's were coming up and I was like, "Let's were coming up and I was like, "Let's get baptized tonight." She's like, get baptized tonight." She's like, get baptized tonight." She's like, "Okay." And I think we might have been "Okay." And I think we might have been "Okay." And I think we might have been the last two people through the pool the last two people through the pool the last two people through the pool because we we were kind of running because we we were kind of running because we we were kind of running around. Had to go back to our car and around. Had to go back to our car and around. Had to go back to our car and get a jacket because I think it was kind get a jacket because I think it was kind get a jacket because I think it was kind of cool that night. And um of cool that night. And um of cool that night. And um 95% 95% 95% 98% of the problems in my life, they're 98% of the problems in my life, they're 98% of the problems in my life, they're gone. And and I I I thank God so much gone. And and I I I thank God so much gone. And and I I I thank God so much for putting a woman in my life who I've for putting a woman in my life who I've for putting a woman in my life who I've known since since since we were little known since since since we were little known since since since we were little kids. and we spent a lot of time that kids. and we spent a lot of time that kids. and we spent a lot of time that she lived in a different town than me she lived in a different town than me she lived in a different town than me and our families know each other and and our families know each other and and our families know each other and things and and uh that she and I stand things and and uh that she and I stand things and and uh that she and I stand side by side and Jesus is in front of us side by side and Jesus is in front of us side by side and Jesus is in front of us and I can I can say that and and I'm so and I can I can say that and and I'm so and I can I can say that and and I'm so thankful to have her in my life because thankful to have her in my life because thankful to have her in my life because she I'm she is an anchor for me in so

she I'm she is an anchor for me in so she I'm she is an anchor for me in so many ways. many ways. many ways. >> Absolutely. I love your baptism story. >> Absolutely. I love your baptism story. >> Absolutely. I love your baptism story. Thank you. I I I was we were so happy to Thank you. I I I was we were so happy to Thank you. I I I was we were so happy to to to get to do it again and and you to to get to do it again and and you to to get to do it again and and you know, we she had been I'd been baptized know, we she had been I'd been baptized know, we she had been I'd been baptized as a kid in in these God church and and as a kid in in these God church and and as a kid in in these God church and and she got baptized um I'm not sure she got baptized um I'm not sure she got baptized um I'm not sure what uh denomination of church it was what uh denomination of church it was what uh denomination of church it was that she got baptized in, but she used that she got baptized in, but she used that she got baptized in, but she used to go to church with one of her friends to go to church with one of her friends to go to church with one of her friends and sometimes she'd she'd walk to church and sometimes she'd she'd walk to church and sometimes she'd she'd walk to church by herself when she was a little girl, by herself when she was a little girl, by herself when she was a little girl, which was just right down the street which was just right down the street which was just right down the street from our house and and she'd got from our house and and she'd got from our house and and she'd got baptized in and um but we wanted to do baptized in and um but we wanted to do baptized in and um but we wanted to do it together. We wanted to we wanted to it together. We wanted to we wanted to it together. We wanted to we wanted to get baptized together and um it was it get baptized together and um it was it get baptized together and um it was it was awesome. And um was awesome. And um was awesome. And um God has changed our life. It I mean God has changed our life. It I mean God has changed our life. It I mean when we used to search for happiness, when we used to search for happiness, when we used to search for happiness, now we have joy. And you know, I I see now we have joy. And you know, I I see now we have joy. And you know, I I see it. I was talking about before we got it. I was talking about before we got it. I was talking about before we got started her being a barrel racer and and started her being a barrel racer and and started her being a barrel racer and and she's a great barrel racer and she's she's a great barrel racer and she's she's a great barrel racer and she's such a talented trainer and and she's such a talented trainer and and she's such a talented trainer and and she's trained the two horses that she has now.

trained the two horses that she has now. trained the two horses that she has now. They were born at our house. Nobody else They were born at our house. Nobody else They were born at our house. Nobody else has touched them besides a guy that just has touched them besides a guy that just has touched them besides a guy that just cold broke them just because she didn't cold broke them just because she didn't cold broke them just because she didn't you know they were going to buck and you know they were going to buck and you know they were going to buck and >> that's special. >> that's special. >> that's special. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> When you raise them >> When you raise them >> When you raise them >> and you know their personality and they >> and you know their personality and they >> and you know their personality and they know yours, there's a relationship with know yours, there's a relationship with know yours, there's a relationship with that that doesn't come any other way. that that doesn't come any other way. that that doesn't come any other way. >> It really doesn't. and she loves those >> It really doesn't. and she loves those >> It really doesn't. and she loves those horses. They are I call them her little horses. They are I call them her little horses. They are I call them her little delicate flowers delicate flowers delicate flowers if they're running barrels. They're not. if they're running barrels. They're not. if they're running barrels. They're not. But she she's done it all from from the But she she's done it all from from the But she she's done it all from from the beginning. And uh um but you know, beginning. And uh um but you know, beginning. And uh um but you know, they're still on their way up. There's they're still on their way up. There's they're still on their way up. There's just now I mean they're very very just now I mean they're very very just now I mean they're very very patterned. She's took it taken it very patterned. She's took it taken it very patterned. She's took it taken it very very slow and got them very patterned. very slow and got them very patterned. very slow and got them very patterned. Before she's picking up on the speed and Before she's picking up on the speed and Before she's picking up on the speed and now they're starting to go a little bit now they're starting to go a little bit now they're starting to go a little bit faster, but you know, you're not you're faster, but you know, you're not you're faster, but you know, you're not you're not placing yet. But used to when we not placing yet. But used to when we not placing yet. But used to when we would leave a a barrel race and when she would leave a a barrel race and when she would leave a a barrel race and when she had I mean top-notch horses and world had I mean top-notch horses and world had I mean top-notch horses and world champion horses if she didn't finish in champion horses if she didn't finish in champion horses if she didn't finish in the top of the 1D or right there I mean the top of the 1D or right there I mean the top of the 1D or right there I mean the ride home was not that awesome you the ride home was not that awesome you the ride home was not that awesome you know and now because and and we talked know and now because and and we talked know and now because and and we talked about it before you know because that about it before you know because that about it before you know because that was searching for happiness and those was searching for happiness and those was searching for happiness and those two boys and the change in our hearts two boys and the change in our hearts two boys and the change in our hearts has taught us the difference between has taught us the difference between has taught us the difference between searching for happiness and having joy.

searching for happiness and having joy. searching for happiness and having joy. joy in doing something because now she's joy in doing something because now she's joy in doing something because now she's there because she loves those boys and there because she loves those boys and there because she loves those boys and and she has she has the joy in her heart and she has she has the joy in her heart and she has she has the joy in her heart about it and she just enjoys the process about it and she just enjoys the process about it and she just enjoys the process of it and it's such a difference. Such a of it and it's such a difference. Such a of it and it's such a difference. Such a difference. difference. difference. >> It is an awesome story. I I'm confident >> It is an awesome story. I I'm confident >> It is an awesome story. I I'm confident the best is still in front of you. the best is still in front of you. the best is still in front of you. >> You keep using your voice for Jesus. >> You keep using your voice for Jesus. >> You keep using your voice for Jesus. >> Thank you very much. I I believe it is >> Thank you very much. I I believe it is >> Thank you very much. I I believe it is too. And and uh and I'm just thankful too. And and uh and I'm just thankful too. And and uh and I'm just thankful that he that he that he asked me to do that he that he that he asked me to do that he that he that he asked me to do it. I want to find a time and place we it. I want to find a time and place we it. I want to find a time and place we get three doors down on some sort of get three doors down on some sort of get three doors down on some sort of festival on campus. festival on campus. festival on campus. >> That'd be fun. >> That'd be fun. >> That'd be fun. >> I believe we can make that work. >> I believe we can make that work. >> I believe we can make that work. >> That'd be very, very fun. >> That'd be very, very fun. >> That'd be very, very fun. >> I think at some point, and I don't hold >> I think at some point, and I don't hold >> I think at some point, and I don't hold me accountable if you're listening to me accountable if you're listening to me accountable if you're listening to this, do not. But you can pray. I I I this, do not. But you can pray. I I I this, do not. But you can pray. I I I grew up with Charlie doing his volunteer grew up with Charlie doing his volunteer grew up with Charlie doing his volunteer jam. jam. jam. And I know you've been a part of that. And I know you've been a part of that. And I know you've been a part of that. I've been there for some of that. But I I've been there for some of that. But I I've been there for some of that. But I think at some point in the future, think at some point in the future, think at some point in the future, there's there's so many people in the there's there's so many people in the there's there's so many people in the industry that we've gotten to know industry that we've gotten to know industry that we've gotten to know through the years. I think it would be a through the years. I think it would be a through the years. I think it would be a hoot to do a version of that on our hoot to do a version of that on our hoot to do a version of that on our campus with our new outdoor worship campus with our new outdoor worship campus with our new outdoor worship spaces.

spaces. spaces. >> That would be awesome. >> That would be awesome. >> That would be awesome. >> We will honor the Lord and honor some of >> We will honor the Lord and honor some of >> We will honor the Lord and honor some of our heritage and the different forms and our heritage and the different forms and our heritage and the different forms and genres of music. genres of music. genres of music. >> That would be awesome. >> That would be awesome. >> That would be awesome. >> I'll come be a part of that day. >> I'll come be a part of that day. >> I'll come be a part of that day. >> I would thoroughly enjoy that. >> I would thoroughly enjoy that. >> I would thoroughly enjoy that. >> Well, you pray. We'll see if the Lord >> Well, you pray. We'll see if the Lord >> Well, you pray. We'll see if the Lord will work that out. will work that out. will work that out. >> Yes, sir. I want to mention one more >> Yes, sir. I want to mention one more >> Yes, sir. I want to mention one more thing. thing. thing. >> Yeah. and and uh and this is something >> Yeah. and and uh and this is something >> Yeah. and and uh and this is something that I've that I've uh that I've done in that I've that I've uh that I've done in that I've that I've uh that I've done in the last two years and and I've been the last two years and and I've been the last two years and and I've been really really really really really really like just really strict about it this like just really strict about it this like just really strict about it this year. And and I know that it's sometimes year. And and I know that it's sometimes year. And and I know that it's sometimes it's definitely I, you know, having two it's definitely I, you know, having two it's definitely I, you know, having two brother-in-laws as pastors, I've heard brother-in-laws as pastors, I've heard brother-in-laws as pastors, I've heard them have conversations at at at my them have conversations at at at my them have conversations at at at my mom's house. And I know that it's mom's house. And I know that it's mom's house. And I know that it's sometimes hard um hard to to talk about sometimes hard um hard to to talk about sometimes hard um hard to to talk about like tithing and stuff in church and and like tithing and stuff in church and and like tithing and stuff in church and and I know that that's something that people I know that that's something that people I know that that's something that people like really like really like really and I've heard about my my my and I've heard about my my my and I've heard about my my my brother-in-law's uh talk about it and brother-in-law's uh talk about it and brother-in-law's uh talk about it and and and things and um so I I want to say and and things and um so I I want to say and and things and um so I I want to say it and I've you know you said last year it and I've you know you said last year it and I've you know you said last year in a sermon he's like you said put your in a sermon he's like you said put your in a sermon he's like you said put your in and put your faith or put your money in and put your faith or put your money in and put your faith or put your money where your faith is. And and I promised where your faith is. And and I promised where your faith is. And and I promised I promised this year that I would be I promised this year that I would be I promised this year that I would be faithful with my tithe. And I can faithful with my tithe. And I can faithful with my tithe. And I can honestly say in doing that this year honestly say in doing that this year honestly say in doing that this year that nothing has helped my faith grow that nothing has helped my faith grow that nothing has helped my faith grow more.

more. more. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Than being faithful with my tithe. It's >> Than being faithful with my tithe. It's >> Than being faithful with my tithe. It's helped my relationship with God. And helped my relationship with God. And helped my relationship with God. And before I I mean, when I get when I get before I I mean, when I get when I get before I I mean, when I get when I get paid, it's the it's the first thing that paid, it's the it's the first thing that paid, it's the it's the first thing that I do is is is pay my tithe. And it's I do is is is pay my tithe. And it's I do is is is pay my tithe. And it's helped my faith more than so many helped my faith more than so many helped my faith more than so many things. And things. And things. And um um um and I and I and I you can't outgive God. He's I mean he you can't outgive God. He's I mean he you can't outgive God. He's I mean he returns it so much. And and I know that returns it so much. And and I know that returns it so much. And and I know that it might be easy for some people it might be easy for some people it might be easy for some people listening to say, "Well, you give me listening to say, "Well, you give me listening to say, "Well, you give me plenty of money and and well that's easy plenty of money and and well that's easy plenty of money and and well that's easy for you to do. I'm sometimes I'm in a for you to do. I'm sometimes I'm in a for you to do. I'm sometimes I'm in a bind." Well, I mean, you bind." Well, I mean, you bind." Well, I mean, you get a good paycheck and and take the get a good paycheck and and take the get a good paycheck and and take the chunk out of it that comes out of it. chunk out of it that comes out of it. chunk out of it that comes out of it. And and that's not that's as easy to say And and that's not that's as easy to say And and that's not that's as easy to say no to as anything. And no to as anything. And no to as anything. And >> if you won't give to the Lord when you >> if you won't give to the Lord when you >> if you won't give to the Lord when you have a little, you won't give to him have a little, you won't give to him have a little, you won't give to him when you have a lot. when you have a lot. when you have a lot. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> If you can make an excuse in one place, >> If you can make an excuse in one place, >> If you can make an excuse in one place, you'll make one on the other. you'll make one on the other. you'll make one on the other. >> Amen. >> Amen. >> Amen. >> That's the truth. And that I just wanted >> That's the truth. And that I just wanted >> That's the truth. And that I just wanted I was thinking about that and and um I was thinking about that and and um I was thinking about that and and um that was just something that I wanted to that was just something that I wanted to that was just something that I wanted to mention that that has helped me and I mention that that has helped me and I mention that that has helped me and I encourage anybody listening that if if encourage anybody listening that if if encourage anybody listening that if if you'll lead with your faith and lead you'll lead with your faith and lead you'll lead with your faith and lead with your tithe I mean you can't outgive with your tithe I mean you can't outgive with your tithe I mean you can't outgive God and it strengthened my relationship God and it strengthened my relationship God and it strengthened my relationship with him so much. That is awesome. Brad with him so much. That is awesome. Brad with him so much. That is awesome. Brad Arnold is my guest lead singer for Three Arnold is my guest lead singer for Three Arnold is my guest lead singer for Three Doors Down. I don't know how many people Doors Down. I don't know how many people Doors Down. I don't know how many people I have had a chance to talk to but it's I have had a chance to talk to but it's I have had a chance to talk to but it's been more than a few. You're the first been more than a few. You're the first been more than a few. You're the first person that's ever come on and told the person that's ever come on and told the person that's ever come on and told the people they need the tithe. So, you're people they need the tithe. So, you're people they need the tithe. So, you're gonna be a frequent flyer. We'll get you

gonna be a frequent flyer. We'll get you gonna be a frequent flyer. We'll get you back. back. back. >> You know, Charlie made an investment in >> You know, Charlie made an investment in >> You know, Charlie made an investment in your life and it changed another your life and it changed another your life and it changed another generation of music. God's going to use generation of music. God's going to use generation of music. God's going to use you to change generations of music. you to change generations of music. you to change generations of music. >> I really hope so. >> I really hope so. >> I really hope so. >> So, you keep honoring him. I trust him >> So, you keep honoring him. I trust him >> So, you keep honoring him. I trust him to do that, my friend. Okay. God bless to do that, my friend. Okay. God bless to do that, my friend. Okay. God bless you. you. you. >> God bless you. Thank you. >> God bless you. Thank you. >> God bless you. Thank you. >> Thanks for joining me today. Before you >> Thanks for joining me today. Before you >> Thanks for joining me today. Before you go, please like the podcast and leave a go, please like the podcast and leave a go, please like the podcast and leave a comment so more people can hear about comment so more people can hear about comment so more people can hear about this topic, too. If you haven't yet, be this topic, too. If you haven't yet, be this topic, too. If you haven't yet, be sure and subscribe to Alan Jackson sure and subscribe to Alan Jackson sure and subscribe to Alan Jackson Ministries YouTube channel and follow Ministries YouTube channel and follow Ministries YouTube channel and follow the Culture and Christianity podcast. the Culture and Christianity podcast. the Culture and Christianity podcast. You can do that on Spotify, Apple You can do that on Spotify, Apple You can do that on Spotify, Apple Podcast, wherever you get your podcast. Podcast, wherever you get your podcast. Podcast, wherever you get your podcast. Together, let's learn how to lead with Together, let's learn how to lead with Together, let's learn how to lead with our faith. We can change our culture. our faith. We can change our culture. our faith. We can change our culture. I'll see you next time.