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We're going to have a conversation that We're going to have a conversation that I hope you dial into. I think it's going I hope you dial into. I think it's going I hope you dial into. I think it's going to be a good one. I think it's going to to be a good one. I think it's going to to be a good one. I think it's going to be a helpful one. We're going to talk be a helpful one. We're going to talk be a helpful one. We're going to talk about uh being a spiritual father. So, about uh being a spiritual father. So, about uh being a spiritual father. So, uh let me let me layer this a little uh let me let me layer this a little uh let me let me layer this a little bit. Okay, I'm going to bring it. So, so bit. Okay, I'm going to bring it. So, so bit. Okay, I'm going to bring it. So, so people kind of know what we're going to people kind of know what we're going to people kind of know what we're going to talk about. So, number one is um yes, talk about. So, number one is um yes, talk about. So, number one is um yes, we're all dads. Yes, we need to teach we're all dads. Yes, we need to teach we're all dads. Yes, we need to teach people how to fish. Yes. But ultimately, people how to fish. Yes. But ultimately, people how to fish. Yes. But ultimately, the biggest mantle we will care is being the biggest mantle we will care is being the biggest mantle we will care is being spiritual fathers. That's that's real. spiritual fathers. That's that's real. spiritual fathers. That's that's real. Uh second of all um I think um uh Uh second of all um I think um uh Uh second of all um I think um uh especially um men in the church um we especially um men in the church um we especially um men in the church um we need to we need to start thinking about need to we need to start thinking about need to we need to start thinking about okay is there somebody else that got okay is there somebody else that got okay is there somebody else that got that that you know that that the Lord is that that you know that that the Lord is that that you know that that the Lord is planting in my life that I should maybe planting in my life that I should maybe planting in my life that I should maybe start recognizing maybe I need to be start recognizing maybe I need to be start recognizing maybe I need to be spiritual father to them maybe I need to spiritual father to them maybe I need to spiritual father to them maybe I need to encourage them a little bit more guide encourage them a little bit more guide encourage them a little bit more guide them my way a little bit more speak them my way a little bit more speak them my way a little bit more speak their identity a little more we'll get their identity a little more we'll get their identity a little more we'll get into that and then ultimately so so we into that and then ultimately so so we into that and then ultimately so so we need to be spiritual fathers with our need to be spiritual fathers with our need to be spiritual fathers with our own kids we need to um look out for own kids we need to um look out for own kids we need to um look out for maybe some other people we need to be a maybe some other people we need to be a maybe some other people we need to be a spiritual father to uh some you know spiritual father to uh some you know spiritual father to uh some you know there's lots of opportunities. We'll there's lots of opportunities. We'll there's lots of opportunities. We'll talk about that. But then the third one talk about that. But then the third one talk about that. But then the third one is uh we also need to be spiritually is uh we also need to be spiritually is uh we also need to be spiritually fathered fathered fathered >> cuz a lot of us didn't have this >> cuz a lot of us didn't have this >> cuz a lot of us didn't have this >> and we're still growing and we're still >> and we're still growing and we're still >> and we're still growing and we're still figuring it out. I I don't know about figuring it out. I I don't know about figuring it out. I I don't know about you but I I I feel I feel like I'm like you but I I I feel I feel like I'm like you but I I I feel I feel like I'm like >> is there a manual on this man? Like how >> is there a manual on this man? Like how >> is there a manual on this man? Like how do you how do I how do I do a do you how do I how do I do a do you how do I how do I do a 20-year-old? How do I do a 16-y old? How 20-year-old? How do I do a 16-y old? How 20-year-old? How do I do a 16-y old? How do I We're still figuring this out. And do I We're still figuring this out. And do I We're still figuring this out. And we all need spiritual fathers. And I we all need spiritual fathers. And I we all need spiritual fathers. And I know God is a spiritual father for sure.

know God is a spiritual father for sure. know God is a spiritual father for sure. But I remember when I was uh 30 years But I remember when I was uh 30 years But I remember when I was uh 30 years old, I'll never forget. And you know, we old, I'll never forget. And you know, we old, I'll never forget. And you know, we all have our own, you know, brand of all have our own, you know, brand of all have our own, you know, brand of crazy that we grew up through. I'm sure, crazy that we grew up through. I'm sure, crazy that we grew up through. I'm sure, you know, everybody else does. But I you know, everybody else does. But I you know, everybody else does. But I remember um on my 30th birthday, I wrote remember um on my 30th birthday, I wrote remember um on my 30th birthday, I wrote the 30 men that God had planted in my the 30 men that God had planted in my the 30 men that God had planted in my life and the things they taught me. life and the things they taught me. life and the things they taught me. >> And it it I hadn't really ever thought >> And it it I hadn't really ever thought >> And it it I hadn't really ever thought of that before, but I was like, I wonder of that before, but I was like, I wonder of that before, but I was like, I wonder how many of them. I never forgot the how many of them. I never forgot the how many of them. I never forgot the 30th. And I stopped at the 30th because 30th. And I stopped at the 30th because 30th. And I stopped at the 30th because God was such a good spiritual father God was such a good spiritual father God was such a good spiritual father that he had he had really put some that he had he had really put some that he had he had really put some spiritual fathers there in my life. So, spiritual fathers there in my life. So, spiritual fathers there in my life. So, so I just want to have all three of so I just want to have all three of so I just want to have all three of those conversations kind of in those conversations kind of in those conversations kind of in descending order a little bit. And so I descending order a little bit. And so I descending order a little bit. And so I just want to talk about how do you Okay. just want to talk about how do you Okay. just want to talk about how do you Okay. Yes, you're all fathers for sure. Tell Yes, you're all fathers for sure. Tell Yes, you're all fathers for sure. Tell me about tell me about the way you me about tell me about the way you me about tell me about the way you spiritually lead as a father and what spiritually lead as a father and what spiritually lead as a father and what you're finding as a spiritual father in you're finding as a spiritual father in you're finding as a spiritual father in your home. That's a little bit different your home. That's a little bit different your home. That's a little bit different conversation. It's not just keeping you conversation. It's not just keeping you conversation. It's not just keeping you off AI and it's not just but what are off AI and it's not just but what are off AI and it's not just but what are you learning there? G give me give some you learning there? G give me give some you learning there? G give me give some things that you just felt like God's things that you just felt like God's things that you just felt like God's taught you about being a spiritual taught you about being a spiritual taught you about being a spiritual father. We'll just we'll start there and father. We'll just we'll start there and father. We'll just we'll start there and we'll keep rolling. we'll keep rolling. we'll keep rolling. >> I think God is asking me to be a father >> I think God is asking me to be a father >> I think God is asking me to be a father in my house. Asking me to in my house. Asking me to in my house. Asking me to uh to treasure my family more than uh to treasure my family more than uh to treasure my family more than anything else and to be uh available and anything else and to be uh available and anything else and to be uh available and to remember that the most important to remember that the most important to remember that the most important thing in my life is my family uh and not thing in my life is my family uh and not thing in my life is my family uh and not the next uh photo project around. Uh the the next uh photo project around. Uh the the next uh photo project around. Uh the particulars of that means um praying for particulars of that means um praying for particulars of that means um praying for my daughters, praying often for my my daughters, praying often for my my daughters, praying often for my daughters, praying for their salvation, daughters, praying for their salvation, daughters, praying for their salvation, uh praying for my soul so that my soul uh praying for my soul so that my soul uh praying for my soul so that my soul treasures them the most, sees them the

treasures them the most, sees them the treasures them the most, sees them the most, enjoys them uh the most. So I'm most, enjoys them uh the most. So I'm most, enjoys them uh the most. So I'm I'm constantly praying, you know, I'm constantly praying, you know, I'm constantly praying, you know, praying in a formal way as in you, you praying in a formal way as in you, you praying in a formal way as in you, you know, sit down and you pray and also know, sit down and you pray and also know, sit down and you pray and also praying as I'm walking around, as I'm praying as I'm walking around, as I'm praying as I'm walking around, as I'm looking at them. Um I think it means looking at them. Um I think it means looking at them. Um I think it means leading them in prayer too. Uh having a leading them in prayer too. Uh having a leading them in prayer too. Uh having a uh you know what are you thankful for uh you know what are you thankful for uh you know what are you thankful for today? Uh uh how is God uh blessing you today? Uh uh how is God uh blessing you today? Uh uh how is God uh blessing you today? What can be you be thankful for? today? What can be you be thankful for? today? What can be you be thankful for? Um and I need to grow on this but I I uh Um and I need to grow on this but I I uh Um and I need to grow on this but I I uh uh have a little um uh reading time with uh have a little um uh reading time with uh have a little um uh reading time with my family reading uh reading the word. my family reading uh reading the word. my family reading uh reading the word. Uh, you know, we have a few of those Uh, you know, we have a few of those Uh, you know, we have a few of those books that are appropriate for children books that are appropriate for children books that are appropriate for children or, you know, made for children and, uh, or, you know, made for children and, uh, or, you know, made for children and, uh, and read about those, uh, with them as a and read about those, uh, with them as a and read about those, uh, with them as a way of, um, um, cultivating a family way of, um, um, cultivating a family way of, um, um, cultivating a family culture that prioritizes the word and culture that prioritizes the word and culture that prioritizes the word and prayer and internal love and not I'm prayer and internal love and not I'm prayer and internal love and not I'm paying attention to something that's paying attention to something that's paying attention to something that's outside, but but my life, my my my law, outside, but but my life, my my my law, outside, but but my life, my my my law, the goodness that God has given me is the goodness that God has given me is the goodness that God has given me is not out there sometime soon, but it's not out there sometime soon, but it's not out there sometime soon, but it's today here with you.

today here with you. today here with you. >> Um, I don't know if that answers the >> Um, I don't know if that answers the >> Um, I don't know if that answers the question. question. question. >> It's good. It's good. >> It's good. It's good. >> It's good. It's good. >> Yeah. Um, I think you said this earlier >> Yeah. Um, I think you said this earlier >> Yeah. Um, I think you said this earlier and just something that kind of comes and just something that kind of comes and just something that kind of comes back to me when I think about it is the back to me when I think about it is the back to me when I think about it is the you can't you can't give what you don't you can't you can't give what you don't you can't you can't give what you don't have. And that um, basically if if I'm have. And that um, basically if if I'm have. And that um, basically if if I'm not, you know, spiritually pursuing my not, you know, spiritually pursuing my not, you know, spiritually pursuing my own walk with Christ, it's really really own walk with Christ, it's really really own walk with Christ, it's really really hard for me to lead somebody else in hard for me to lead somebody else in hard for me to lead somebody else in that. Um, and if there's and especially that. Um, and if there's and especially that. Um, and if there's and especially um, like just the entire hierarchy of um, like just the entire hierarchy of um, like just the entire hierarchy of what that looks like. And so my wife and what that looks like. And so my wife and what that looks like. And so my wife and I always talk about it's like if I'm not I always talk about it's like if I'm not I always talk about it's like if I'm not in my and you know and sorry I keep in my and you know and sorry I keep in my and you know and sorry I keep hitting this this mic. Um, but if I'm hitting this this mic. Um, but if I'm hitting this this mic. Um, but if I'm not in great communion with Christ, I not in great communion with Christ, I not in great communion with Christ, I feel out of sync with her. So like if feel out of sync with her. So like if feel out of sync with her. So like if this is wrong, I start to feel out of this is wrong, I start to feel out of this is wrong, I start to feel out of sync with her. And when I'm out of sync sync with her. And when I'm out of sync sync with her. And when I'm out of sync with her, then everything down here, with her, then everything down here, with her, then everything down here, like the kids, everything gets out of like the kids, everything gets out of like the kids, everything gets out of sync. And so um you know if I can't sync. And so um you know if I can't sync. And so um you know if I can't pursue and my walk first then you know pursue and my walk first then you know pursue and my walk first then you know that gets connected there and then she that gets connected there and then she that gets connected there and then she and I become that number one priority and I become that number one priority and I become that number one priority right of saying like hey you and I are right of saying like hey you and I are right of saying like hey you and I are going to lock in step with one another going to lock in step with one another going to lock in step with one another throughout all this and then you know throughout all this and then you know throughout all this and then you know everything kind of flows downhill from everything kind of flows downhill from everything kind of flows downhill from there and I think putting healthy there and I think putting healthy there and I think putting healthy routines and like for me I have to be routines and like for me I have to be routines and like for me I have to be like a fairly regimented person so and a like a fairly regimented person so and a like a fairly regimented person so and a lot and a lot of it just is hopefully lot and a lot of it just is hopefully lot and a lot of it just is hopefully modeling what I expect out of them right modeling what I expect out of them right modeling what I expect out of them right is that I have dedicated prayer and is that I have dedicated prayer and is that I have dedicated prayer and quiet time and journaling in the quiet time and journaling in the quiet time and journaling in the morning. It's just like carved out morning. It's just like carved out morning. It's just like carved out non-negotiable time. Um that they see non-negotiable time. Um that they see non-negotiable time. Um that they see that and they start to like think, "Oh, that and they start to like think, "Oh, that and they start to like think, "Oh, why is dad always out there doing that?"

why is dad always out there doing that?" why is dad always out there doing that?" Right? And that also like I didn't grow Right? And that also like I didn't grow Right? And that also like I didn't grow up in a household where necessarily like up in a household where necessarily like up in a household where necessarily like spiritual things just kind of flowed in spiritual things just kind of flowed in spiritual things just kind of flowed in normal conversation. Um and so I kind of normal conversation. Um and so I kind of normal conversation. Um and so I kind of love that part of it is just like oh love that part of it is just like oh love that part of it is just like oh what's God doing in our life today or what's God doing in our life today or what's God doing in our life today or what are we thankful for? What are we what are we thankful for? What are we what are we thankful for? What are we grateful? Like even just using words grateful? Like even just using words grateful? Like even just using words like gratitude and thankfulness and all like gratitude and thankfulness and all like gratitude and thankfulness and all these things on a regular basis so that these things on a regular basis so that these things on a regular basis so that just it's part of our vernacular. it just it's part of our vernacular. it just it's part of our vernacular. it becomes part of their DNA of how they're becomes part of their DNA of how they're becomes part of their DNA of how they're kind of viewing the world. Um, I think kind of viewing the world. Um, I think kind of viewing the world. Um, I think has kind of just been a big big part of has kind of just been a big big part of has kind of just been a big big part of that. Um, and then prayer, I think that. Um, and then prayer, I think that. Um, and then prayer, I think prayer for me has just been like going prayer for me has just been like going prayer for me has just been like going one by one through each kid for my one by one through each kid for my one by one through each kid for my spouse, like to say, hey, I'm praying spouse, like to say, hey, I'm praying spouse, like to say, hey, I'm praying for you specifically for these things, for you specifically for these things, for you specifically for these things, affirming her that I'm doing that, affirming her that I'm doing that, affirming her that I'm doing that, reminding the kids, hey, I'm praying for reminding the kids, hey, I'm praying for reminding the kids, hey, I'm praying for you for this. um has been just a big you for this. um has been just a big you for this. um has been just a big part of, you know, remembering the power part of, you know, remembering the power part of, you know, remembering the power of prayer, remembering that it does of prayer, remembering that it does of prayer, remembering that it does change and it does, you know, have an change and it does, you know, have an change and it does, you know, have an impact on people. So, um those are impact on people. So, um those are impact on people. So, um those are probably my biggest. probably my biggest. probably my biggest. >> Yeah, I'll be honest, man. I feel like >> Yeah, I'll be honest, man. I feel like >> Yeah, I'll be honest, man. I feel like I'm really bad at this. I'm really bad I'm really bad at this. I'm really bad I'm really bad at this. I'm really bad at this. Um I try really hard to model at this. Um I try really hard to model at this. Um I try really hard to model like how Jesus treated people, you know.

like how Jesus treated people, you know. like how Jesus treated people, you know. Um Um Um the the Messiah, he was never rigid, the the Messiah, he was never rigid, the the Messiah, he was never rigid, you know. you know. you know. Um, Um, Um, and I I think one of the things that's and I I think one of the things that's and I I think one of the things that's hardest for me is I I have like this hardest for me is I I have like this hardest for me is I I have like this attached to my like addictive attached to my like addictive attached to my like addictive personality or whatever that's like the personality or whatever that's like the personality or whatever that's like the moment you tell me I have to do moment you tell me I have to do moment you tell me I have to do something. I just now I don't because something. I just now I don't because something. I just now I don't because the thing I'm not going to do, you know, the thing I'm not going to do, you know, the thing I'm not going to do, you know, think you're like, hey, you have you're think you're like, hey, you have you're think you're like, hey, you have you're not allowed to do this and it's like, not allowed to do this and it's like, not allowed to do this and it's like, well, crap, now I got to do that, you well, crap, now I got to do that, you well, crap, now I got to do that, you know? Um, and so trying to force it, know? Um, and so trying to force it, know? Um, and so trying to force it, regiment it, mandate it was something regiment it, mandate it was something regiment it, mandate it was something that I just always I never knew how to I that I just always I never knew how to I that I just always I never knew how to I never figured out really good how to do, never figured out really good how to do, never figured out really good how to do, you know. Um, you know. Um, you know. Um, >> and uh, >> and uh, >> and uh, yeah, so being being a spiritual father yeah, so being being a spiritual father yeah, so being being a spiritual father in the home, um, man, I wish in the home, um, man, I wish in the home, um, man, I wish that there was a better like, oh, we're that there was a better like, oh, we're that there was a better like, oh, we're going to sit down and read, you know going to sit down and read, you know going to sit down and read, you know what I mean? Like, we're going to we're what I mean? Like, we're going to we're what I mean? Like, we're going to we're going to carve out this time. We're going to carve out this time. We're going to carve out this time. We're going to read, you know? Um, going to read, you know? Um, going to read, you know? Um, but it was like the more that I felt but it was like the more that I felt but it was like the more that I felt like I was I should force this on him, like I was I should force this on him, like I was I should force this on him, the more that I felt like it was going the more that I felt like it was going the more that I felt like it was going to, you know, push that push that away.

to, you know, push that push that away. to, you know, push that push that away. Um, Um, Um, so, so, so, you know, the grace of God in that has you know, the grace of God in that has you know, the grace of God in that has been pretty pretty significant for me. been pretty pretty significant for me. been pretty pretty significant for me. Um, with my older my older children, um, Um, with my older my older children, um, Um, with my older my older children, um, my youngest son, God blessed me with a my youngest son, God blessed me with a my youngest son, God blessed me with a son who just loves to worship. Mhm. son who just loves to worship. Mhm. son who just loves to worship. Mhm. >> He just loves to worship and so being >> He just loves to worship and so being >> He just loves to worship and so being able to kind of cultivate that with him able to kind of cultivate that with him able to kind of cultivate that with him and it's a priority now like and it's a priority now like and it's a priority now like I'm a I'm a pastor like I work this way I'm a I'm a pastor like I work this way I'm a I'm a pastor like I work this way like I'm a pastor and a bad I'm a bad like I'm a pastor and a bad I'm a bad like I'm a pastor and a bad I'm a bad spiritual father I feel like so um but spiritual father I feel like so um but spiritual father I feel like so um but like Thursday nights it was that was the like Thursday nights it was that was the like Thursday nights it was that was the hard part was bro it was always it was hard part was bro it was always it was hard part was bro it was always it was so so much like work. so so much like work. so so much like work. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? And it was like >> You know what I mean? And it was like >> You know what I mean? And it was like that was my job. that was my job. that was my job. >> And >> And >> And >> and so Thursday nights now >> and so Thursday nights now >> and so Thursday nights now >> it's like me and Case we come up we we >> it's like me and Case we come up we we >> it's like me and Case we come up we we he knows Thursday night it's like we're he knows Thursday night it's like we're he knows Thursday night it's like we're going to church. going to church. going to church. >> Yeah. I you know I I want to challenge >> Yeah. I you know I I want to challenge >> Yeah. I you know I I want to challenge that a little bit cuz that a little bit cuz that a little bit cuz >> you know so I felt like that too. I was >> you know so I felt like that too. I was >> you know so I felt like that too. I was like man I'm just not regimented and I like man I'm just not regimented and I like man I'm just not regimented and I remember so I had this guy. He's like remember so I had this guy. He's like remember so I had this guy. He's like the dude. He's like this guy that I just the dude. He's like this guy that I just the dude. He's like this guy that I just want to be him. Like just just want to be him. Like just just want to be him. Like just just >> I'm not the only one that has somebody >> I'm not the only one that has somebody >> I'm not the only one that has somebody >> I look at that but I'm like man if I >> I look at that but I'm like man if I >> I look at that but I'm like man if I could just you know that I remember I could just you know that I remember I could just you know that I remember I move I moved you know here to Southeast move I moved you know here to Southeast move I moved you know here to Southeast and I love Southeast. I love this place.

and I love Southeast. I love this place. and I love Southeast. I love this place. But, you know, especially at the time, But, you know, especially at the time, But, you know, especially at the time, it was a little buttoned up at the time. it was a little buttoned up at the time. it was a little buttoned up at the time. And um And um And um >> it's not that way after you get to know >> it's not that way after you get to know >> it's not that way after you get to know people, but I was like, "Oh gosh, now people, but I was like, "Oh gosh, now people, but I was like, "Oh gosh, now I'm really going to be like at the I'm really going to be like at the I'm really going to be like at the bottom of the parent totem pole cuz I bottom of the parent totem pole cuz I bottom of the parent totem pole cuz I have charts and flip charts and we don't have charts and flip charts and we don't have charts and flip charts and we don't sit down and we do the thing." sit down and we do the thing." sit down and we do the thing." >> And so, I just remember asking him, I >> And so, I just remember asking him, I >> And so, I just remember asking him, I just felt so bad. I was like, I'm the just felt so bad. I was like, I'm the just felt so bad. I was like, I'm the worst at this. worst at this. worst at this. >> And I just remember his name is Dan. And >> And I just remember his name is Dan. And >> And I just remember his name is Dan. And um I said, Dan, man, I need some help. I um I said, Dan, man, I need some help. I um I said, Dan, man, I need some help. I just am the worst spiritual father ever. just am the worst spiritual father ever. just am the worst spiritual father ever. And he's like, "Matt, what are you And he's like, "Matt, what are you And he's like, "Matt, what are you talking about, man?" I was like, "Well, talking about, man?" I was like, "Well, talking about, man?" I was like, "Well, they have all the books and the they have all the books and the they have all the books and the pamphlets and they do the thing and the pamphlets and they do the thing and the pamphlets and they do the thing and the cute stuff and they write things and cute stuff and they write things and cute stuff and they write things and they sit around in cute little circles they sit around in cute little circles they sit around in cute little circles and we're like WWF and like it's wild and we're like WWF and like it's wild and we're like WWF and like it's wild and it's" And he's like, he's like, and it's" And he's like, he's like, and it's" And he's like, he's like, "Listen, man. Your family," he said, "Listen, man. Your family," he said, "Listen, man. Your family," he said, "Disciplehip for sure. You you want to "Disciplehip for sure. You you want to "Disciplehip for sure. You you want to disciple your family, but people do it disciple your family, but people do it disciple your family, but people do it different." different." different." >> He's like, "And some people use manuals >> He's like, "And some people use manuals >> He's like, "And some people use manuals cuz that fits their personality." He cuz that fits their personality." He cuz that fits their personality." He said, he said, "You know my kids, said, he said, "You know my kids, said, he said, "You know my kids, right?" And I was like, "I know your right?" And I was like, "I know your right?" And I was like, "I know your kids are amazing. That's why you need to kids are amazing. That's why you need to kids are amazing. That's why you need to fix me." And he's like, I and he fix me." And he's like, I and he fix me." And he's like, I and he literally writes disciplehip training literally writes disciplehip training literally writes disciplehip training material. He's like, I never used a material. He's like, I never used a material. He's like, I never used a manual. We never had organized what you manual. We never had organized what you manual. We never had organized what you think of we did.

think of we did. think of we did. >> We didn't. >> We didn't. >> We didn't. >> He said, no, no one will see you more >> He said, no, no one will see you more >> He said, no, no one will see you more than your family. Especially those first than your family. Especially those first than your family. Especially those first 18 years. 18 years. 18 years. >> He said, Matt, you need to take the >> He said, Matt, you need to take the >> He said, Matt, you need to take the weight off. If you love Jesus, if you if weight off. If you love Jesus, if you if weight off. If you love Jesus, if you if you if you cannot wait to open the word you if you cannot wait to open the word you if you cannot wait to open the word in the morning, your kids will know. You in the morning, your kids will know. You in the morning, your kids will know. You can't hide it from them. You will want can't hide it from them. You will want can't hide it from them. You will want your kids to listen to what you say. your kids to listen to what you say. your kids to listen to what you say. they will replicate who you are. they will replicate who you are. they will replicate who you are. >> And so disciplehip is not always the >> And so disciplehip is not always the >> And so disciplehip is not always the program. program. program. >> The program is how different people do >> The program is how different people do >> The program is how different people do it. it. it. >> Who you are >> Who you are >> Who you are >> is what makes you a spiritual father. I >> is what makes you a spiritual father. I >> is what makes you a spiritual father. I had one of the kids say, "Hey, I just I had one of the kids say, "Hey, I just I had one of the kids say, "Hey, I just I wish I could see into your quiet time." wish I could see into your quiet time." wish I could see into your quiet time." And I realized I was doing all my quiet And I realized I was doing all my quiet And I realized I was doing all my quiet time stuff at work and I was like, "Oh, time stuff at work and I was like, "Oh, time stuff at work and I was like, "Oh, >> I did not I was trying to kind of like >> I did not I was trying to kind of like >> I did not I was trying to kind of like don't let the left hand know what your don't let the left hand know what your don't let the left hand know what your right hand is doing." right hand is doing." right hand is doing." >> And no, they actually do need to see it. >> And no, they actually do need to see it. >> And no, they actually do need to see it. So I was like, "Oh, I need to do that at So I was like, "Oh, I need to do that at So I was like, "Oh, I need to do that at the kitchen table. I'll just I'll just the kitchen table. I'll just I'll just the kitchen table. I'll just I'll just stop. I'll just do that more at the stop. I'll just do that more at the stop. I'll just do that more at the kitchen table or I invite them into it. kitchen table or I invite them into it. kitchen table or I invite them into it. But but but and I also know your kids But but but and I also know your kids But but but and I also know your kids know who you are. So I know you're not a know who you are. So I know you're not a know who you are. So I know you're not a bum dad and a spiritual father. But I bum dad and a spiritual father. But I bum dad and a spiritual father. But I think a lot of men feel like they're bad think a lot of men feel like they're bad think a lot of men feel like they're bad because they don't do blank program.

because they don't do blank program. because they don't do blank program. >> And I'm like maybe >> And I'm like maybe >> And I'm like maybe >> maybe >> maybe >> maybe >> I mean maybe you need to get your faith >> I mean maybe you need to get your faith >> I mean maybe you need to get your faith in gear, but if your faith is in gear, in gear, but if your faith is in gear, in gear, but if your faith is in gear, you have hunger. I I don't think I don't you have hunger. I I don't think I don't you have hunger. I I don't think I don't think you're as bad of a spiritual think you're as bad of a spiritual think you're as bad of a spiritual father as you think you are. I do father as you think you are. I do father as you think you are. I do wrestle. I think being honest like wrestle. I think being honest like wrestle. I think being honest like you see you you know we know our own you see you you know we know our own you see you you know we know our own deficiencies better than anybody. deficiencies better than anybody. deficiencies better than anybody. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> You know and so when something comes up >> You know and so when something comes up >> You know and so when something comes up with your kids and it's like okay with your kids and it's like okay with your kids and it's like okay they're struggling with something and they're struggling with something and they're struggling with something and the reality is they're human and they're the reality is they're human and they're the reality is they're human and they're going to struggle. You know what I mean? going to struggle. You know what I mean? going to struggle. You know what I mean? But like the the tendency for me some is But like the the tendency for me some is But like the the tendency for me some is to come back to this like man if I just to come back to this like man if I just to come back to this like man if I just would have done this more they wouldn't would have done this more they wouldn't would have done this more they wouldn't struggle with this. If I had just been struggle with this. If I had just been struggle with this. If I had just been better at that, better at that, better at that, >> then this wouldn't be the struggle >> then this wouldn't be the struggle >> then this wouldn't be the struggle today. You know what I mean? Um, so today. You know what I mean? Um, so today. You know what I mean? Um, so yeah, that Lance, I really appreciate yeah, that Lance, I really appreciate yeah, that Lance, I really appreciate that. that. that. >> Give it to me. Give me spiritual. What >> Give it to me. Give me spiritual. What >> Give it to me. Give me spiritual. What What do you do? What do you say? What do you do? What do you say? What do you do? What do you say? >> Yeah. I I think with uh with us and was >> Yeah. I I think with uh with us and was >> Yeah. I I think with uh with us and was about being consistent. about being consistent. about being consistent. >> So, um, one thing that we really talked >> So, um, one thing that we really talked >> So, um, one thing that we really talked about in our family and what we practice about in our family and what we practice about in our family and what we practice was was was Sunday's church day. Tuesday night would Sunday's church day. Tuesday night would Sunday's church day. Tuesday night would be our Bible study time where we would be our Bible study time where we would be our Bible study time where we would do and a lot of times I would take my do and a lot of times I would take my do and a lot of times I would take my kids and it was exciting time coming kids and it was exciting time coming kids and it was exciting time coming home Sunday that would be our discussion home Sunday that would be our discussion home Sunday that would be our discussion in the car talking about those things.

in the car talking about those things. in the car talking about those things. Tuesday night we always studying the Tuesday night we always studying the Tuesday night we always studying the same thing we would talk about those same thing we would talk about those same thing we would talk about those things and the the thing that I love things and the the thing that I love things and the the thing that I love about kids is uh if you're being about kids is uh if you're being about kids is uh if you're being hypocritical about something they're hypocritical about something they're hypocritical about something they're going to point it out to you and so that going to point it out to you and so that going to point it out to you and so that also helped some have me some also helped some have me some also helped some have me some accountability. So, like if if a Tuesday accountability. So, like if if a Tuesday accountability. So, like if if a Tuesday rolled around, I'm like, I think we rolled around, I'm like, I think we rolled around, I'm like, I think we might skip it. Like, Dad, what do you might skip it. Like, Dad, what do you might skip it. Like, Dad, what do you mean we're going to skip? And so, you mean we're going to skip? And so, you mean we're going to skip? And so, you know, just having that consistency, know, just having that consistency, know, just having that consistency, >> living the life that you're professing >> living the life that you're professing >> living the life that you're professing that you're that you're doing. And, you that you're that you're doing. And, you that you're that you're doing. And, you know, not not just being just a hearer know, not not just being just a hearer know, not not just being just a hearer of the word, but being a doer of the of the word, but being a doer of the of the word, but being a doer of the word. word. word. >> Um, you know, I think about the >> Um, you know, I think about the >> Um, you know, I think about the Deuteronomy passage. You know, Deuteronomy passage. You know, Deuteronomy passage. You know, Deuteronomy 6, you know, your kids, you Deuteronomy 6, you know, your kids, you Deuteronomy 6, you know, your kids, you know, we continue to do that. train them know, we continue to do that. train them know, we continue to do that. train them up and and you know and so that's really up and and you know and so that's really up and and you know and so that's really one thing we did was we tried to always one thing we did was we tried to always one thing we did was we tried to always be consistent with them but then also be consistent with them but then also be consistent with them but then also when they called me out they had a right when they called me out they had a right when they called me out they had a right to call me out because I would call them to call me out because I would call them to call me out because I would call them out likewise and so I wanted to make out likewise and so I wanted to make out likewise and so I wanted to make sure that you know that we were living sure that you know that we were living sure that you know that we were living >> um first of all honoring God but being >> um first of all honoring God but being >> um first of all honoring God but being consistent and disciplined in in what consistent and disciplined in in what consistent and disciplined in in what we're doing we're doing we're doing >> and and even today we see that those >> and and even today we see that those >> and and even today we see that those things, things, things, those foundational things, the word of those foundational things, the word of those foundational things, the word of God and and and and God and and and and God and and and and doing those things, they have carried on doing those things, they have carried on doing those things, they have carried on into their lives, you know, kind of into their lives, you know, kind of into their lives, you know, kind of today. Um, you know, another thing I

today. Um, you know, another thing I today. Um, you know, another thing I think about too is is that there's times think about too is is that there's times think about too is is that there's times where where where where you I they point out blank said, where you I they point out blank said, where you I they point out blank said, "Dad, you know, you know, you say that "Dad, you know, you know, you say that "Dad, you know, you know, you say that you know that you care about this person you know that you care about this person you know that you care about this person over here." However, I saw the way you over here." However, I saw the way you over here." However, I saw the way you respond in them. It wasn't great. respond in them. It wasn't great. respond in them. It wasn't great. >> And so, again, you know, those are ways >> And so, again, you know, those are ways >> And so, again, you know, those are ways that that help me to be a a better, that that help me to be a a better, that that help me to be a a better, >> you know, kind of a stronger person. And >> you know, kind of a stronger person. And >> you know, kind of a stronger person. And so, so, so, >> you know, it's so important as spiritual >> you know, it's so important as spiritual >> you know, it's so important as spiritual fathers. fathers. fathers. If you're wrong, you're wrong. Let your If you're wrong, you're wrong. Let your If you're wrong, you're wrong. Let your kids, let your family see that, admit kids, let your family see that, admit kids, let your family see that, admit that. that. that. >> And I think it it it helps all of us >> And I think it it it helps all of us >> And I think it it it helps all of us grow. But then also you're modeling grow. But then also you're modeling grow. But then also you're modeling sometimes, you know, our kids or other sometimes, you know, our kids or other sometimes, you know, our kids or other people can put us on pedestals that we people can put us on pedestals that we people can put us on pedestals that we don't deserve to be on that and put us don't deserve to be on that and put us don't deserve to be on that and put us at a at a higher plane than what we are. at a at a higher plane than what we are. at a at a higher plane than what we are. And so, And so, And so, >> you know, if you're wrong, you're wrong. >> you know, if you're wrong, you're wrong. >> you know, if you're wrong, you're wrong. You need to admit that and and confess You need to admit that and and confess You need to admit that and and confess that. Um and um and it just just really that. Um and um and it just just really that. Um and um and it just just really in my opinion helps you to continue to in my opinion helps you to continue to in my opinion helps you to continue to to grow and it strengthens your faith to grow and it strengthens your faith to grow and it strengthens your faith and and throughout time that consistency and and throughout time that consistency and and throughout time that consistency uh will carry on, you know, through your uh will carry on, you know, through your uh will carry on, you know, through your kids as they they grow and kind of kids as they they grow and kind of kids as they they grow and kind of mature, you know, their faith and as mature, you know, their faith and as mature, you know, their faith and as they they they >> at some point would get married or >> at some point would get married or >> at some point would get married or whatever. So whatever. So whatever. So >> yeah, I think I think the theme is just, >> yeah, I think I think the theme is just, >> yeah, I think I think the theme is just, you know, listen again, you know, be you know, listen again, you know, be you know, listen again, you know, be focused, you know, you got to you got to focused, you know, you got to you got to focused, you know, you got to you got to recognize what you have when you have it

recognize what you have when you have it recognize what you have when you have it and and be consistent and be genuine and and and be consistent and be genuine and and and be consistent and be genuine and be real and be real and be real and >> and so then even moving into being a >> and so then even moving into being a >> and so then even moving into being a spiritual father to others, you know, spiritual father to others, you know, spiritual father to others, you know, cuz because I know for being a spiritual cuz because I know for being a spiritual cuz because I know for being a spiritual father for me, you know, um part of father for me, you know, um part of father for me, you know, um part of being a spiritual father to me is being a spiritual father to me is being a spiritual father to me is receiving receiving receiving >> from the father what he wants for my >> from the father what he wants for my >> from the father what he wants for my kids and my wife. So part of being a kids and my wife. So part of being a kids and my wife. So part of being a spiritual father is staying tapped into spiritual father is staying tapped into spiritual father is staying tapped into the spiritual father. You know that um the spiritual father. You know that um the spiritual father. You know that um that we can only do so much but it's that we can only do so much but it's that we can only do so much but it's it's through him that we get it. But it's through him that we get it. But it's through him that we get it. But then I just recognize all the time not then I just recognize all the time not then I just recognize all the time not only is he giving us advice about our only is he giving us advice about our only is he giving us advice about our own kids all the time. I I can tell you own kids all the time. I I can tell you own kids all the time. I I can tell you I can't tell you how many times I guess I can't tell you how many times I guess I can't tell you how many times I guess I just felt like you I remember when the I just felt like you I remember when the I just felt like you I remember when the kids were young and I was struggling kids were young and I was struggling kids were young and I was struggling man. I was like Lord this is this is man. I was like Lord this is this is man. I was like Lord this is this is rough man. Like like we were trying to rough man. Like like we were trying to rough man. Like like we were trying to do a dbo at night and it was chaos. Just do a dbo at night and it was chaos. Just do a dbo at night and it was chaos. Just chaos. My boys are just so rambunctious. chaos. My boys are just so rambunctious. chaos. My boys are just so rambunctious. I love that. And you know, but I'm like, I love that. And you know, but I'm like, I love that. And you know, but I'm like, just pay attention for like two seconds, just pay attention for like two seconds, just pay attention for like two seconds, man. And and and other things are going man. And and and other things are going man. And and and other things are going on, too. And I just remember the Lord on, too. And I just remember the Lord on, too. And I just remember the Lord give me he's I I his clergy speaks to me give me he's I I his clergy speaks to me give me he's I I his clergy speaks to me and I get things wrong. He's like, you and I get things wrong. He's like, you and I get things wrong. He's like, you know, Matt, why don't you bless them know, Matt, why don't you bless them know, Matt, why don't you bless them tonight? I was like, I think I know what tonight? I was like, I think I know what tonight? I was like, I think I know what that means. I'm not sure I know what that means. I'm not sure I know what that means. I'm not sure I know what that means. I remember going home and that means. I remember going home and that means. I remember going home and the kids are little and I was like, I'm the kids are little and I was like, I'm the kids are little and I was like, I'm just going to bless them. I'm going to just going to bless them. I'm going to just going to bless them. I'm going to do my best. And I think that's part of do my best. And I think that's part of do my best. And I think that's part of parenting is I'm going to be a spiritual parenting is I'm going to be a spiritual parenting is I'm going to be a spiritual father by doing my best to honor the father by doing my best to honor the father by doing my best to honor the father. M. And so I just was like, father. M. And so I just was like, father. M. And so I just was like, "Lord, I think I know what blessing "Lord, I think I know what blessing "Lord, I think I know what blessing means. I mean, I kind of do." And I So I means. I mean, I kind of do." And I So I means. I mean, I kind of do." And I So I I said, "Hey guys, I'm I'm going to I said, "Hey guys, I'm I'm going to I said, "Hey guys, I'm I'm going to bless you guys tonight." And they're bless you guys tonight." And they're bless you guys tonight." And they're like, "What is that?" I like, "Well, I'm like, "What is that?" I like, "Well, I'm like, "What is that?" I like, "Well, I'm going to I'm just going to speak over going to I'm just going to speak over going to I'm just going to speak over you, what I feel like God, how God sees you, what I feel like God, how God sees you, what I feel like God, how God sees you, and I'm just going to do it one at you, and I'm just going to do it one at you, and I'm just going to do it one at a time." Like, "Okay." And I brought my a time." Like, "Okay." And I brought my a time." Like, "Okay." And I brought my little girl up, my daughter, who was little girl up, my daughter, who was little girl up, my daughter, who was only four at the time. We didn't have

only four at the time. We didn't have only four at the time. We didn't have the fifth. the fifth. the fifth. >> And I just grabbed her little hand. I >> And I just grabbed her little hand. I >> And I just grabbed her little hand. I remember her cute little dress, and I remember her cute little dress, and I remember her cute little dress, and I just started saying, you know, just all just started saying, you know, just all just started saying, you know, just all the things that God uh said over her. the things that God uh said over her. the things that God uh said over her. And she starts just kind of weeping. And she starts just kind of weeping. And she starts just kind of weeping. >> Yeah. M >> Yeah. M >> Yeah. M >> and my kids got real quiet >> and my kids got real quiet >> and my kids got real quiet >> and then went went one at a time >> and then went went one at a time >> and then went went one at a time >> and I will never forget that moment as >> and I will never forget that moment as >> and I will never forget that moment as long as I lived and it wasn't because I long as I lived and it wasn't because I long as I lived and it wasn't because I came up with some great ideas because in came up with some great ideas because in came up with some great ideas because in the morning I was like God I need help the morning I was like God I need help the morning I was like God I need help with this and I paid attention to the with this and I paid attention to the with this and I paid attention to the little whisper little whisper little whisper >> you know but but the other thing that >> you know but but the other thing that >> you know but but the other thing that I've noticed is okay that's being a I've noticed is okay that's being a I've noticed is okay that's being a spiritual father but I think part of spiritual father but I think part of spiritual father but I think part of being a being a spiritual father is being a being a spiritual father is being a being a spiritual father is recognize not every dad is a spiritual recognize not every dad is a spiritual recognize not every dad is a spiritual father father father >> and he's planted a bunch of people >> and he's planted a bunch of people >> and he's planted a bunch of people around us all the time that need us to around us all the time that need us to around us all the time that need us to to extend our coverage. You know what to extend our coverage. You know what to extend our coverage. You know what I'm saying? Like to to make our, you I'm saying? Like to to make our, you I'm saying? Like to to make our, you know, that the Old Testament always know, that the Old Testament always know, that the Old Testament always talks about a big tree where lots of talks about a big tree where lots of talks about a big tree where lots of animals find, you know, you know, health animals find, you know, you know, health animals find, you know, you know, health and protection in the shade. I think a and protection in the shade. I think a and protection in the shade. I think a good godly man, good spiritual father. good godly man, good spiritual father. good godly man, good spiritual father. >> There's always people who don't have >> There's always people who don't have >> There's always people who don't have spiritual fathers that find a home and spiritual fathers that find a home and spiritual fathers that find a home and find encouragement and find a life. find encouragement and find a life. find encouragement and find a life. >> So, and I know, you know, you're always, >> So, and I know, you know, you're always, >> So, and I know, you know, you're always, you know, coaching people. You know, you you know, coaching people. You know, you you know, coaching people. You know, you you got people in your life all the you got people in your life all the you got people in your life all the time. How do you find yourself time. How do you find yourself time. How do you find yourself spiritually fathering the people around spiritually fathering the people around spiritually fathering the people around you? What are some little tricks, little you? What are some little tricks, little you? What are some little tricks, little things that you do with them that just things that you do with them that just things that you do with them that just helps you, none of us do it perfect, helps you, none of us do it perfect, helps you, none of us do it perfect, >> but help you be aware of them? Uh, speak >> but help you be aware of them? Uh, speak >> but help you be aware of them? Uh, speak into them, whatever it is. What do you into them, whatever it is. What do you into them, whatever it is. What do you what do you what do how do you how do what do you what do how do you how do what do you what do how do you how do you do that for those that are not your you do that for those that are not your you do that for those that are not your own?

own? own? I know for me, particularly from the I know for me, particularly from the I know for me, particularly from the coaching coaching coaching uh perspective, uh I get a chance to uh perspective, uh I get a chance to uh perspective, uh I get a chance to interact with a lot of youth from six interact with a lot of youth from six interact with a lot of youth from six years up all the way through high years up all the way through high years up all the way through high school. And and again, it goes back to school. And and again, it goes back to school. And and again, it goes back to some of the other things about having some of the other things about having some of the other things about having consistent behavior, the way that I consistent behavior, the way that I consistent behavior, the way that I speak, speak, speak, >> the way that I interact, the way that I >> the way that I interact, the way that I >> the way that I interact, the way that I respond to different things. Um and um respond to different things. Um and um respond to different things. Um and um and quite honestly at a lot of the and quite honestly at a lot of the and quite honestly at a lot of the events now um I love it when um when the events now um I love it when um when the events now um I love it when um when the students huddle up together before students huddle up together before students huddle up together before they're about to compete and they're they're about to compete and they're they're about to compete and they're praying. And so a lot of times um you praying. And so a lot of times um you praying. And so a lot of times um you know they'll ask me or others to to join know they'll ask me or others to to join know they'll ask me or others to to join in and do that. And so I I I think in and do that. And so I I I think in and do that. And so I I I think I think just trying to even though it's I think just trying to even though it's I think just trying to even though it's not about you know works because we not about you know works because we not about you know works because we never can do enough every all of our all never can do enough every all of our all never can do enough every all of our all of our acts are filthy rags. Yep. at the of our acts are filthy rags. Yep. at the of our acts are filthy rags. Yep. at the end of the day. But however, end of the day. But however, end of the day. But however, if others see that, you know, hey, he's if others see that, you know, hey, he's if others see that, you know, hey, he's different than that coach over there, different than that coach over there, different than that coach over there, you know, he doesn't, you know, his you know, he doesn't, you know, his you know, he doesn't, you know, his language is different. You know, he's language is different. You know, he's language is different. You know, he's not hanging out downstairs, you know, not hanging out downstairs, you know, not hanging out downstairs, you know, doing things and, you know, doing things and, you know, doing things and, you know, participating in activities that that participating in activities that that participating in activities that that aren't really good for you.

aren't really good for you. aren't really good for you. So I think some of those things but then So I think some of those things but then So I think some of those things but then also you know as I re as we as I also you know as I re as we as I also you know as I re as we as I recognize that someone is struggling recognize that someone is struggling recognize that someone is struggling having those eyes open and just pull having those eyes open and just pull having those eyes open and just pull them aside say hey what's going on and them aside say hey what's going on and them aside say hey what's going on and it gives you opportunities in a lot of it gives you opportunities in a lot of it gives you opportunities in a lot of cases cases cases >> to actually pray with them you know >> to actually pray with them you know >> to actually pray with them you know because they you know because they you know because they you know >> a lot of times they know that you know >> a lot of times they know that you know >> a lot of times they know that you know they might know that you're a Christian they might know that you're a Christian they might know that you're a Christian so it gives you opportunities to you so it gives you opportunities to you so it gives you opportunities to you know kind of just to hear what's going know kind of just to hear what's going know kind of just to hear what's going on to encourage them to support them and on to encourage them to support them and on to encourage them to support them and and so that's that's what I really like and so that's that's what I really like and so that's that's what I really like and and you know I will say the one and and you know I will say the one and and you know I will say the one thing that well there's many things I thing that well there's many things I thing that well there's many things I like that are going on within the church like that are going on within the church like that are going on within the church but but the fact that the way the but but the fact that the way the but but the fact that the way the resurgence now um and the revival that's resurgence now um and the revival that's resurgence now um and the revival that's going on within this younger generation going on within this younger generation going on within this younger generation it's going to take us you know not it's going to take us you know not it's going to take us you know not coming in as a dad like hey let me do coming in as a dad like hey let me do coming in as a dad like hey let me do this and that, but to support to this and that, but to support to this and that, but to support to encourage them and then mentor them encourage them and then mentor them encourage them and then mentor them along the way. Um, you know, because, along the way. Um, you know, because, along the way. Um, you know, because, you know, for them, at least from my you know, for them, at least from my you know, for them, at least from my standpoint, where they're at now at that standpoint, where they're at now at that standpoint, where they're at now at that age, I was nowhere near that. And so, so age, I was nowhere near that. And so, so age, I was nowhere near that. And so, so I just think, you know, as us men I just think, you know, as us men I just think, you know, as us men sitting around looking for those sitting around looking for those sitting around looking for those opportunities that we can come and and opportunities that we can come and and opportunities that we can come and and just encourage that uh group around us just encourage that uh group around us just encourage that uh group around us cuz that's indeed our next generation.

cuz that's indeed our next generation. cuz that's indeed our next generation. Uh and if we don't don't have them Uh and if we don't don't have them Uh and if we don't don't have them continuing to uh to move forth in the continuing to uh to move forth in the continuing to uh to move forth in the faith and and and as spiritual fathers, faith and and and as spiritual fathers, faith and and and as spiritual fathers, that's what we're called to do, to look that's what we're called to do, to look that's what we're called to do, to look to look and seize those opportunities to look and seize those opportunities to look and seize those opportunities that God's placing before us. So, that God's placing before us. So, that God's placing before us. So, >> I I'll say this. I think I'm kind of >> I I'll say this. I think I'm kind of >> I I'll say this. I think I'm kind of like newly coming into like my with my like newly coming into like my with my like newly coming into like my with my oldest being 12 years old and the other oldest being 12 years old and the other oldest being 12 years old and the other one being 10 years old. one being 10 years old. one being 10 years old. >> Um I'm just kind of coming into that >> Um I'm just kind of coming into that >> Um I'm just kind of coming into that stage where it's kind of like their stage where it's kind of like their stage where it's kind of like their friends are a little more impactful and friends are a little more impactful and friends are a little more impactful and they're kind of around. I'm seeing those they're kind of around. I'm seeing those they're kind of around. I'm seeing those >> little nuggets of like trails of where >> little nuggets of like trails of where >> little nuggets of like trails of where conversations can go. Um I think just conversations can go. Um I think just conversations can go. Um I think just being present and being around has been being present and being around has been being present and being around has been a huge part of it. Just being like, a huge part of it. Just being like, a huge part of it. Just being like, "Hey, can I be a part of the community "Hey, can I be a part of the community "Hey, can I be a part of the community that they're around?" Um, I helped coach that they're around?" Um, I helped coach that they're around?" Um, I helped coach it was all Catholic families. Um, which it was all Catholic families. Um, which it was all Catholic families. Um, which they're great. Um, but I helped coach they're great. Um, but I helped coach they're great. Um, but I helped coach their cross country team and um, so I'm their cross country team and um, so I'm their cross country team and um, so I'm like, "All right, we're going to huddle like, "All right, we're going to huddle like, "All right, we're going to huddle up and we're going to pray." up and we're going to pray." up and we're going to pray." >> And they're like, "Hey, do you want to >> And they're like, "Hey, do you want to >> And they're like, "Hey, do you want to pray?" And so I prayed just like I would pray?" And so I prayed just like I would pray?" And so I prayed just like I would always pray. And one of the other always pray. And one of the other always pray. And one of the other coaches goes, "Oh, you're one of those coaches goes, "Oh, you're one of those coaches goes, "Oh, you're one of those freestyle prayers," freestyle prayers," freestyle prayers," >> to which I didn't know that they were >> to which I didn't know that they were >> to which I didn't know that they were like going to do like a, you know, like going to do like a, you know, like going to do like a, you know, whatever the Catholic prayer was.

whatever the Catholic prayer was. whatever the Catholic prayer was. >> Um, and so if anything, I was like, "Oh, >> Um, and so if anything, I was like, "Oh, >> Um, and so if anything, I was like, "Oh, you know what? It just kind of opens the you know what? It just kind of opens the you know what? It just kind of opens the door for just a different perspective. door for just a different perspective. door for just a different perspective. And I think just being present and being And I think just being present and being And I think just being present and being available available available >> for whatever that means, whatever that >> for whatever that means, whatever that >> for whatever that means, whatever that looks like for their running buddies or looks like for their running buddies or looks like for their running buddies or their buddies that are, you know, their buddies that are, you know, their buddies that are, you know, around. Um, it was cool to see my kids around. Um, it was cool to see my kids around. Um, it was cool to see my kids then huddle huddle up, you know, another then huddle huddle up, you know, another then huddle huddle up, you know, another group and they they went freestyle group and they they went freestyle group and they they went freestyle prayer too, you know, and, you know, I prayer too, you know, and, you know, I prayer too, you know, and, you know, I was like, "Oh, I really love like that was like, "Oh, I really love like that was like, "Oh, I really love like that dynamic of that, you know, when they dynamic of that, you know, when they dynamic of that, you know, when they have their friends over. We do this have their friends over. We do this have their friends over. We do this thing where we do like a everyone goes thing where we do like a everyone goes thing where we do like a everyone goes around like sometimes our family dinner around like sometimes our family dinner around like sometimes our family dinner prayers last way longer than they ever prayers last way longer than they ever prayers last way longer than they ever should because everybody goes around and should because everybody goes around and should because everybody goes around and says they want to pray. Well, they they says they want to pray. Well, they they says they want to pray. Well, they they expect somebody who's coming to sit the expect somebody who's coming to sit the expect somebody who's coming to sit the table to join in. table to join in. table to join in. >> And so I think part of that you again >> And so I think part of that you again >> And so I think part of that you again it's just like it's just like it's just like >> being there and having the relationship >> being there and having the relationship >> being there and having the relationship and without the relationship, and without the relationship, and without the relationship, >> you know, I know that there's never >> you know, I know that there's never >> you know, I know that there's never going to be the opportunity to kind of going to be the opportunity to kind of going to be the opportunity to kind of have that. So for me right now, I just have that. So for me right now, I just have that. So for me right now, I just feel like it's a lot of just being feel like it's a lot of just being feel like it's a lot of just being present and and kind of building the present and and kind of building the present and and kind of building the relationship side of things with them. relationship side of things with them. relationship side of things with them. >> Yeah. Uh, I I confess that I don't think >> Yeah. Uh, I I confess that I don't think >> Yeah. Uh, I I confess that I don't think I'm very good at it, but the way that it I'm very good at it, but the way that it I'm very good at it, but the way that it happens to me is I almost my my heart happens to me is I almost my my heart happens to me is I almost my my heart goes after younger men. Um, it is goes after younger men. Um, it is goes after younger men. Um, it is probably connected to my own story. But probably connected to my own story. But probably connected to my own story. But as soon as I see a young man that seems as soon as I see a young man that seems as soon as I see a young man that seems to be and you know this is just seems I to be and you know this is just seems I to be and you know this is just seems I don't know if this is true or not but don't know if this is true or not but don't know if this is true or not but seems to be a little bit maybe seems to be a little bit maybe seems to be a little bit maybe maybe a drift or without a voice telling maybe a drift or without a voice telling maybe a drift or without a voice telling him hey you got this. my heart goes

him hey you got this. my heart goes him hey you got this. my heart goes after them because I know after them because I know after them because I know >> that that young man wants to hear, wants >> that that young man wants to hear, wants >> that that young man wants to hear, wants to have some and I know that because I to have some and I know that because I to have some and I know that because I need it need it need it >> somebody to to look at him. And when I >> somebody to to look at him. And when I >> somebody to to look at him. And when I say look, I don't mean literally look, say look, I don't mean literally look, say look, I don't mean literally look, but you know like the this aspect of but you know like the this aspect of but you know like the this aspect of seeing one's soul and say, "Hey, hey, seeing one's soul and say, "Hey, hey, seeing one's soul and say, "Hey, hey, you got this. You're not here by you got this. You're not here by you got this. You're not here by mistake. You're not here a drift and mistake. You're not here a drift and mistake. You're not here a drift and you're not just a failure waiting to you're not just a failure waiting to you're not just a failure waiting to happen. and you're not just this uh happen. and you're not just this uh happen. and you're not just this uh thing floating around that has no thing floating around that has no thing floating around that has no meaning and purpose, but you God loves meaning and purpose, but you God loves meaning and purpose, but you God loves you, you know, and and you got this. And you, you know, and and you got this. And you, you know, and and you got this. And so uh I wish I could be more, you know, so uh I wish I could be more, you know, so uh I wish I could be more, you know, if I tell a kid what I just said, he's if I tell a kid what I just said, he's if I tell a kid what I just said, he's going to look at me and be like, what's going to look at me and be like, what's going to look at me and be like, what's wrong with you? Like are you like you're wrong with you? Like are you like you're wrong with you? Like are you like you're you know what's what's going on here? you know what's what's going on here? you know what's what's going on here? You know, so so I need to be careful You know, so so I need to be careful You know, so so I need to be careful about that. But but intentionality and about that. But but intentionality and about that. But but intentionality and say, hey, you know, how are you doing? say, hey, you know, how are you doing? say, hey, you know, how are you doing? Um let's do this together. Hey, like be Um let's do this together. Hey, like be Um let's do this together. Hey, like be confident. you know, you you got this, confident. you know, you you got this, confident. you know, you you got this, you know, um I don't know. I can I can you know, um I don't know. I can I can you know, um I don't know. I can I can try to delve into more specific, but it try to delve into more specific, but it try to delve into more specific, but it but it's a tingling that comes to me and but it's a tingling that comes to me and but it's a tingling that comes to me and it's like my heart goes after this kid.

it's like my heart goes after this kid. it's like my heart goes after this kid. Try to love on him. Try to like Try to love on him. Try to like Try to love on him. Try to like encourage him in in in any in any way encourage him in in in any in any way encourage him in in in any in any way you can and try to see him and try to you can and try to see him and try to you can and try to see him and try to tell him that, you know, there is tell him that, you know, there is tell him that, you know, there is something available for him. something available for him. something available for him. >> Um yeah. >> Um yeah. >> Um yeah. >> Yeah. My um >> Yeah. My um >> Yeah. My um my table has always been seems like it's my table has always been seems like it's my table has always been seems like it's always been full. You know, there's always been full. You know, there's always been full. You know, there's different times in our I mean since different times in our I mean since different times in our I mean since before we even had children where where before we even had children where where before we even had children where where kids, you know, stayed with us um and kids, you know, stayed with us um and kids, you know, stayed with us um and like want to do vacations with us and like want to do vacations with us and like want to do vacations with us and are kind of around and um it's something are kind of around and um it's something are kind of around and um it's something it's it's definitely something that's uh it's it's definitely something that's uh it's it's definitely something that's uh we take very very seriously, you know. we take very very seriously, you know. we take very very seriously, you know. Um, and it's just I think for me it's Um, and it's just I think for me it's Um, and it's just I think for me it's it's just leaning into not missing that it's just leaning into not missing that it's just leaning into not missing that moment. You know what I mean? Like moment. You know what I mean? Like moment. You know what I mean? Like >> they're not by at my table by chance, >> they're not by at my table by chance, >> they're not by at my table by chance, you know? It wasn't because practice got you know? It wasn't because practice got you know? It wasn't because practice got cancelled that they stayed over later cancelled that they stayed over later cancelled that they stayed over later tonight. Like there's a purpose for tonight. Like there's a purpose for tonight. Like there's a purpose for that, you know. Um, but it really it it that, you know. Um, but it really it it that, you know. Um, but it really it it comes it it comes just from this comes it it comes just from this comes it it comes just from this connection here, connection here, connection here, >> you know, and then having something to >> you know, and then having something to >> you know, and then having something to go out here with it. And it's almost go out here with it. And it's almost go out here with it. And it's almost like where I feel like I struggle as a like where I feel like I struggle as a like where I feel like I struggle as a spiritual father in my home. It feels spiritual father in my home. It feels spiritual father in my home. It feels like there's less pressure in that like there's less pressure in that like there's less pressure in that because I maybe like I'm not responsible because I maybe like I'm not responsible because I maybe like I'm not responsible for him all the time, but in this moment for him all the time, but in this moment for him all the time, but in this moment this I don't want to miss this moment.

this I don't want to miss this moment. this I don't want to miss this moment. You know what I mean? Um and I know that You know what I mean? Um and I know that You know what I mean? Um and I know that like it all it really it sounds kind of like it all it really it sounds kind of like it all it really it sounds kind of dumb, but it all just starts with being dumb, but it all just starts with being dumb, but it all just starts with being kind. like for me like if I'm just kind kind. like for me like if I'm just kind kind. like for me like if I'm just kind like I resonated when you were talking like I resonated when you were talking like I resonated when you were talking about like them seeing the differences about like them seeing the differences about like them seeing the differences in coaches or you know people around in in coaches or you know people around in in coaches or you know people around in that setting but it's like like that's that setting but it's like like that's that setting but it's like like that's they just gravitate towards that and they just gravitate towards that and they just gravitate towards that and that's something I think of Jesus right that's something I think of Jesus right that's something I think of Jesus right like I've never seen kids go want to like I've never seen kids go want to like I've never seen kids go want to hang out with somebody that's grumpy hang out with somebody that's grumpy hang out with somebody that's grumpy right right right >> you know I mean they don't look around >> you know I mean they don't look around >> you know I mean they don't look around the room and go where's the most grumpy the room and go where's the most grumpy the room and go where's the most grumpy guy I want to hang with him you know I guy I want to hang with him you know I guy I want to hang with him you know I mean so like the children wanted to be mean so like the children wanted to be mean so like the children wanted to be with Jesus with Jesus with Jesus >> like so like dude had to be carrying >> like so like dude had to be carrying >> like so like dude had to be carrying himself a little bit goofy, a little bit himself a little bit goofy, a little bit himself a little bit goofy, a little bit fun, a little bit like where the kids fun, a little bit like where the kids fun, a little bit like where the kids were like, I want to hang out with this were like, I want to hang out with this were like, I want to hang out with this person, you know? Um, and so it starts person, you know? Um, and so it starts person, you know? Um, and so it starts with being kind, I think, and just not with being kind, I think, and just not with being kind, I think, and just not missing that moment and then realizing missing that moment and then realizing missing that moment and then realizing that like it's just whatever in that that like it's just whatever in that that like it's just whatever in that moment and they do they need that they moment and they do they need that they moment and they do they need that they need to be like, man, you did a really need to be like, man, you did a really need to be like, man, you did a really good job on that, good job on that, good job on that, >> you know, I mean, just that that it's >> you know, I mean, just that that it's >> you know, I mean, just that that it's just a little phrase, just a little phrase, just a little phrase, >> you know, um, you know, is it, you know, >> you know, um, you know, is it, you know, >> you know, um, you know, is it, you know, just modeling, you know, just I don't just modeling, you know, just I don't just modeling, you know, just I don't know, just showing up like, you know, know, just showing up like, you know, know, just showing up like, you know, I'm just here. So, I think that's it.

I'm just here. So, I think that's it. I'm just here. So, I think that's it. you know, I I did youth ministry for so you know, I I did youth ministry for so you know, I I did youth ministry for so many years and our house is so full and many years and our house is so full and many years and our house is so full and I have so many kids and all their I have so many kids and all their I have so many kids and all their friends friends friends >> and um I mean boiling boiling a lot of >> and um I mean boiling boiling a lot of >> and um I mean boiling boiling a lot of things down all the good things you guys things down all the good things you guys things down all the good things you guys said to just don't miss the moment said to just don't miss the moment said to just don't miss the moment >> like at John 17 when Jesus talks about >> like at John 17 when Jesus talks about >> like at John 17 when Jesus talks about the disciples he says he's praying over the disciples he says he's praying over the disciples he says he's praying over them he says father uh I've been them he says father uh I've been them he says father uh I've been faithful with the ones you gave me out faithful with the ones you gave me out faithful with the ones you gave me out of this world they were yours and you of this world they were yours and you of this world they were yours and you gave them to me gave them to me gave them to me >> and I just think man when when young >> and I just think man when when young >> and I just think man when when young people are in our lives and young people are in our lives and young people are in our lives and young changes over time right Don changes over time right Don changes over time right Don >> so early it was like, you know, when I >> so early it was like, you know, when I >> so early it was like, you know, when I was in when I was in college, it was the was in when I was in college, it was the was in when I was in college, it was the high schooler. When I was, you know, high schooler. When I was, you know, high schooler. When I was, you know, then it was the college student. then it was the college student. then it was the college student. >> And now I'm like the young marrieds with >> And now I'm like the young marrieds with >> And now I'm like the young marrieds with the kids. I'm like, "Wow, this is the kids. I'm like, "Wow, this is the kids. I'm like, "Wow, this is getting wild." So, but it's just Lord, getting wild." So, but it's just Lord, getting wild." So, but it's just Lord, who having you who have you put in my who having you who have you put in my who having you who have you put in my life? life? life? >> And am I helping the young men be good >> And am I helping the young men be good >> And am I helping the young men be good husbands? Am I helping the young dads be husbands? Am I helping the young dads be husbands? Am I helping the young dads be am I helping the young women too? They am I helping the young women too? They am I helping the young women too? They need a father's voice in their life need a father's voice in their life need a father's voice in their life sometimes saying, "Hey, you are so sometimes saying, "Hey, you are so sometimes saying, "Hey, you are so precious to him." I mean, you know, but precious to him." I mean, you know, but precious to him." I mean, you know, but the two times the voice of God spoke in the two times the voice of God spoke in the two times the voice of God spoke in Jesus life, Jesus life, Jesus life, >> you know, one at the baptism and one at >> you know, one at the baptism and one at >> you know, one at the baptism and one at the transfiguration, he said the exact the transfiguration, he said the exact the transfiguration, he said the exact same thing.

same thing. same thing. >> This is my son whom I love and in whom >> This is my son whom I love and in whom >> This is my son whom I love and in whom I'm well pleased. I'm well pleased. I'm well pleased. >> And every single one of us need that. >> And every single one of us need that. >> And every single one of us need that. And if the if I I sometimes feel this. I And if the if I I sometimes feel this. I And if the if I I sometimes feel this. I just if the church really owned that just if the church really owned that just if the church really owned that >> that we would just be faithful to the >> that we would just be faithful to the >> that we would just be faithful to the young people that are around us and just young people that are around us and just young people that are around us and just say, "Hey, I don't have everything. I say, "Hey, I don't have everything. I say, "Hey, I don't have everything. I don't have everything, but I can say, don't have everything, but I can say, don't have everything, but I can say, I'm proud of you. I love you. you're I'm proud of you. I love you. you're I'm proud of you. I love you. you're doing great. How can I help? What's doing great. How can I help? What's doing great. How can I help? What's going on? And be and be a be somebody going on? And be and be a be somebody going on? And be and be a be somebody that's different for him, too. You got that's different for him, too. You got that's different for him, too. You got to be you got to be the real thing. Um to be you got to be the real thing. Um to be you got to be the real thing. Um it'd go a long way. And so, we ran out a it'd go a long way. And so, we ran out a it'd go a long way. And so, we ran out a little bit of time, but um but I think little bit of time, but um but I think little bit of time, but um but I think everybody in the room knows this, too. everybody in the room knows this, too. everybody in the room knows this, too. And I think our heart would be for And I think our heart would be for And I think our heart would be for everybody. Um just because you didn't everybody. Um just because you didn't everybody. Um just because you didn't have a spiritual father doesn't mean you have a spiritual father doesn't mean you have a spiritual father doesn't mean you can't be one. can't be one. can't be one. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> Just because you didn't have one doesn't >> Just because you didn't have one doesn't >> Just because you didn't have one doesn't mean you can't be one. mean you can't be one. mean you can't be one. >> It's just not true. And the reality is >> It's just not true. And the reality is >> It's just not true. And the reality is every single one of us and I think we every single one of us and I think we every single one of us and I think we could all speak to it have have found oh could all speak to it have have found oh could all speak to it have have found oh I had to figure out my my heavenly I had to figure out my my heavenly I had to figure out my my heavenly father first father first father first >> and then by the Holy Spirit he just >> and then by the Holy Spirit he just >> and then by the Holy Spirit he just shepherds us, fathers us every day, shepherds us, fathers us every day, shepherds us, fathers us every day, gives us exactly what we need for the gives us exactly what we need for the gives us exactly what we need for the day.

day. day. >> And um and you know I'm the one that led >> And um and you know I'm the one that led >> And um and you know I'm the one that led I love my dad. You were talking about I love my dad. You were talking about I love my dad. You were talking about your dad. I love my dad. Um but I'm the your dad. I love my dad. Um but I'm the your dad. I love my dad. Um but I'm the one that led him to Christ. one that led him to Christ. one that led him to Christ. >> And so now I'm kind of the spiritual >> And so now I'm kind of the spiritual >> And so now I'm kind of the spiritual father of my dad and I'm all messed up. father of my dad and I'm all messed up. father of my dad and I'm all messed up. You know, it's like, well, well, hey, You know, it's like, well, well, hey, You know, it's like, well, well, hey, doesn't, you know, praise God. If you doesn't, you know, praise God. If you doesn't, you know, praise God. If you had a godly father, awesome. God had a godly father, awesome. God had a godly father, awesome. God probably still has some things to teach probably still has some things to teach probably still has some things to teach you that your father didn't teach you. you that your father didn't teach you. you that your father didn't teach you. We just would encourage you and we want We just would encourage you and we want We just would encourage you and we want to encourage each other. Just don't miss to encourage each other. Just don't miss to encourage each other. Just don't miss the moment, man. Don't don't let God the moment, man. Don't don't let God the moment, man. Don't don't let God plant somebody in your life, in your plant somebody in your life, in your plant somebody in your life, in your home, or right around your home and and home, or right around your home and and home, or right around your home and and not just have eyes for him and just be not just have eyes for him and just be not just have eyes for him and just be like, "Hey, the Lord planted you in my like, "Hey, the Lord planted you in my like, "Hey, the Lord planted you in my life. I want to be faithful." So, uh, life. I want to be faithful." So, uh, life. I want to be faithful." So, uh, great conversation, fellas. Love it. and great conversation, fellas. Love it. and great conversation, fellas. Love it. and um pray that this blesses you. um pray that this blesses you. um pray that this blesses you. C C C >> can I can I bring something up? Do we >> can I can I bring something up? Do we >> can I can I bring something up? Do we have time for me to bring something up? have time for me to bring something up? have time for me to bring something up? >> That was the wrap. >> That was the wrap. >> That was the wrap. >> That was the wrap there. >> That was the wrap there. >> That was the wrap there. >> All right. >> All right. >> All right. >> Sorry. >> Sorry. >> Sorry. >> Yeah, I was talking to that to close. >> Yeah, I was talking to that to close. >> Yeah, I was talking to that to close. Sorry. They they had us rap a little bit Sorry. They they had us rap a little bit Sorry. They they had us rap a little bit ago, so I'm so sorry. ago, so I'm so sorry. ago, so I'm so sorry. >> All right. Makes sense. >> All right. Makes sense. >> All right. Makes sense. >> Yeah. Sorry. >> Yeah. Sorry. >> Yeah. Sorry. >> You're good. You're good.