E452 Navigating the Bible: Amos

Do what is good and run from evil so Do what is good and run from evil so that [music] you may live. that [music] you may live. that [music] you may live. Then the Lord God of heaven's armies Then the Lord God of heaven's armies Then the Lord God of heaven's armies will be your helper just as you have will be your helper just as you have will be your helper just as you have claimed. Hate evil [music] and love what claimed. Hate evil [music] and love what claimed. Hate evil [music] and love what is good. Turn your courts into true is good. Turn your courts into true is good. Turn your courts into true halls of justice. [music] halls of justice. [music] halls of justice. [music] Perhaps even yet the Lord God of Perhaps even yet the Lord God of Perhaps even yet the Lord God of heaven's armies [music] will have mercy heaven's armies [music] will have mercy heaven's armies [music] will have mercy on the remnant of his people. on the remnant of his people. on the remnant of his people. Amos 5:es [music] 14 and 15. Amos 5:es [music] 14 and 15. Amos 5:es [music] 14 and 15. The book of Amos [music] has a bit of a The book of Amos [music] has a bit of a The book of Amos [music] has a bit of a reputation. reputation. reputation. It's not known for being the most fun It's not known for being the most fun It's not known for being the most fun [music] [music] [music] of the minor prophets. It doesn't pop up of the minor prophets. It doesn't pop up of the minor prophets. It doesn't pop up in many sermons. You don't see many in many sermons. You don't see many in many sermons. You don't see many Bible studies [music] focused on it. And Bible studies [music] focused on it. And Bible studies [music] focused on it. And there are many reasons why this is the there are many reasons why this is the there are many reasons why this is the case. Uh Amos is a harsh book. He case. Uh Amos is a harsh book. He case. Uh Amos is a harsh book. He doesn't hold back on what he has to say. doesn't hold back on what he has to say. doesn't hold back on what he has to say. In chapter 8, it says, "The Lord said, In chapter 8, it says, "The Lord said, In chapter 8, it says, "The Lord said, like this [music] fruit, Israel is ripe like this [music] fruit, Israel is ripe like this [music] fruit, Israel is ripe for punishment. I will not delay [music] for punishment. I will not delay [music] for punishment. I will not delay [music] their punishment again. In that day, the their punishment again. In that day, the their punishment again. In that day, the singing in [music] the temple will turn singing in [music] the temple will turn singing in [music] the temple will turn to wailing. Dead bodies will be to wailing. Dead bodies will be to wailing. Dead bodies will be scattered everywhere. They will be scattered everywhere. They will be scattered everywhere. They will be carried out of the city in silence.

carried out of the city in silence. carried out of the city in silence. Again, Again, Again, uh not the most fun read. uh not the most fun read. uh not the most fun read. However, the true heart of the book of However, the true heart of the book of However, the true heart of the book of Amos is an incredibly important message Amos is an incredibly important message Amos is an incredibly important message about how you view God. about how you view God. about how you view God. It's a book about justice. It's a book about justice. It's a book about justice. It's a book about repentance. It's a book about repentance. It's a book about repentance. It's a book about the true heart of It's a book about the true heart of It's a book about the true heart of worship. worship. worship. To help us navigate the book of Amos is To help us navigate the book of Amos is To help us navigate the book of Amos is Dr. Dr. Danny Carroll, Scripture Press Dr. Dr. Danny Carroll, Scripture Press Dr. Dr. Danny Carroll, Scripture Press Ministries professor [music] Ministries professor [music] Ministries professor [music] of biblical studies at Wheaten College. of biblical studies at Wheaten College. of biblical studies at Wheaten College. Dany has studied, taught, and written Dany has studied, taught, and written Dany has studied, taught, and written about Amos for decades, including about Amos for decades, including about Amos for decades, including writing some commentaries on the book. writing some commentaries on the book. writing some commentaries on the book. And today, he'll explain why Amos has And today, he'll explain why Amos has And today, he'll explain why Amos has captured his attention for so long. captured his attention for so long. captured his attention for so long. We'll talk about why it's such a unique We'll talk about why it's such a unique We'll talk about why it's such a unique book in the prophets and how the church, book in the prophets and how the church, book in the prophets and how the church, particularly in America, particularly in America, particularly in America, should be paying extra attention to its should be paying extra attention to its should be paying extra attention to its warnings.

warnings. warnings. My name is Jason Wland and this is dual My name is Jason Wland and this is dual My name is Jason Wland and this is dual disciplehip. disciplehip. disciplehip. Navigating the Bible Amos. All right. I'm joined today by Danny All right. I'm joined today by Danny Carroll who's going to help us navigate Carroll who's going to help us navigate Carroll who's going to help us navigate the book [music] of Amos. Danny, thanks the book [music] of Amos. Danny, thanks the book [music] of Amos. Danny, thanks for being here. I really appreciate it. for being here. I really appreciate it. for being here. I really appreciate it. >> Well, it's a it's a joy and a privilege >> Well, it's a it's a joy and a privilege >> Well, it's a it's a joy and a privilege to be with you. So, thanks for the to be with you. So, thanks for the to be with you. So, thanks for the invitation. invitation. invitation. >> When I was talking with David Baker um >> When I was talking with David Baker um >> When I was talking with David Baker um about a different book, I was asking him about a different book, I was asking him about a different book, I was asking him about Amos and he said, "Well, you got about Amos and he said, "Well, you got about Amos and he said, "Well, you got to get Danny Carol on to talk about it." to get Danny Carol on to talk about it." to get Danny Carol on to talk about it." So, I'm glad to have you here. So, I So, I'm glad to have you here. So, I So, I'm glad to have you here. So, I wanted to start a little bit differently wanted to start a little bit differently wanted to start a little bit differently because as we were talking uh before we because as we were talking uh before we because as we were talking uh before we started recording, we thought this might started recording, we thought this might started recording, we thought this might be a good place to start. What is it be a good place to start. What is it be a good place to start. What is it about Amos that drew you to want to about Amos that drew you to want to about Amos that drew you to want to spend so much time studying it and spend so much time studying it and spend so much time studying it and wanting to teach about it and write wanting to teach about it and write wanting to teach about it and write about it? about it? about it? >> Well, there's a story behind that and it >> Well, there's a story behind that and it >> Well, there's a story behind that and it actually goes a lot to who I am. I'm actually goes a lot to who I am. I'm actually goes a lot to who I am. I'm half half half >> Guatemalan. >> Guatemalan. >> Guatemalan. >> So, I spent time in Guatemala um growing >> So, I spent time in Guatemala um growing >> So, I spent time in Guatemala um growing up almost every summer growing up. And up almost every summer growing up. And up almost every summer growing up. And then, um then, um then, um my wife and I went to Central America uh my wife and I went to Central America uh my wife and I went to Central America uh in the early 80s and this was a time of in the early 80s and this was a time of in the early 80s and this was a time of civil war. So we spent a year in Costa civil war. So we spent a year in Costa civil war. So we spent a year in Costa Rica which was right next door to Rica which was right next door to Rica which was right next door to Nicaragua where the Saninistas were in Nicaragua where the Saninistas were in Nicaragua where the Saninistas were in power at the time. The Guatemalan Civil power at the time. The Guatemalan Civil power at the time. The Guatemalan Civil War had it started in 1960 and would not War had it started in 1960 and would not War had it started in 1960 and would not end till 1996.

end till 1996. end till 1996. And [snorts] I remember I have visuals And [snorts] I remember I have visuals And [snorts] I remember I have visuals from my childhood of some of that. So from my childhood of some of that. So from my childhood of some of that. So anyway, when I when after a year in anyway, when I when after a year in anyway, when I when after a year in Costa Rica, we went to Guatemala and I Costa Rica, we went to Guatemala and I Costa Rica, we went to Guatemala and I taught there in a seminary in Guatemala taught there in a seminary in Guatemala taught there in a seminary in Guatemala City for many many years. Anyway, it was City for many many years. Anyway, it was City for many many years. Anyway, it was during the time of the war and at the during the time of the war and at the during the time of the war and at the time time time uh there was um another u theological uh there was um another u theological uh there was um another u theological movement called liberation theology that movement called liberation theology that movement called liberation theology that some of your listeners may know about. some of your listeners may know about. some of your listeners may know about. >> But um so the goal was to try to as an >> But um so the goal was to try to as an >> But um so the goal was to try to as an Old Testament prof, how does the Old Old Testament prof, how does the Old Old Testament prof, how does the Old Testament deal with issues of war and Testament deal with issues of war and Testament deal with issues of war and poverty poverty poverty >> in a context when that actually is >> in a context when that actually is >> in a context when that actually is happening? So, it's not just an abstract happening? So, it's not just an abstract happening? So, it's not just an abstract idea, but uh Guatemala is overwhelmingly idea, but uh Guatemala is overwhelmingly idea, but uh Guatemala is overwhelmingly poor and [snorts] there was a war in the poor and [snorts] there was a war in the poor and [snorts] there was a war in the mountains. mountains. mountains. >> We weren't fighting in the street like >> We weren't fighting in the street like >> We weren't fighting in the street like that happened in uh Nicaragua and El that happened in uh Nicaragua and El that happened in uh Nicaragua and El Salvador. But, so that's what drew me to Salvador. But, so that's what drew me to Salvador. But, so that's what drew me to Amos. Um it talks a lot about social Amos. Um it talks a lot about social Amos. Um it talks a lot about social justice. It's issues of war and justice. It's issues of war and justice. It's issues of war and judgment. Um, so how what would a an judgment. Um, so how what would a an judgment. Um, so how what would a an evangelical alternative to that more evangelical alternative to that more evangelical alternative to that more left-wing uh uh theology and ideology left-wing uh uh theology and ideology left-wing uh uh theology and ideology look like? So that that's how I started look like? So that that's how I started look like? So that that's how I started Amos. So Amos. So Amos. So >> we're going, you know, it's been, >> we're going, you know, it's been, >> we're going, you know, it's been, you know, uh about 40 years since I've you know, uh about 40 years since I've you know, uh about 40 years since I've been working in the book. So uh that's been working in the book. So uh that's been working in the book. So uh that's how I got into it.

how I got into it. how I got into it. >> Yeah. And I'm sure that that's going to >> Yeah. And I'm sure that that's going to >> Yeah. And I'm sure that that's going to color our conversation today because as color our conversation today because as color our conversation today because as you said like Amos, it it does it is it you said like Amos, it it does it is it you said like Amos, it it does it is it reads a little bit differently than a reads a little bit differently than a reads a little bit differently than a lot of the books that we've been lot of the books that we've been lot of the books that we've been spending time in already. And so, and spending time in already. And so, and spending time in already. And so, and that's been a fun part of going through that's been a fun part of going through that's been a fun part of going through this series is seeing how each of the this series is seeing how each of the this series is seeing how each of the prophets I I think a lot of people they prophets I I think a lot of people they prophets I I think a lot of people they think of the prophets and they lump them think of the prophets and they lump them think of the prophets and they lump them together as well, these are just a lot together as well, these are just a lot together as well, these are just a lot of the books about, yeah, some of the books about, yeah, some of the books about, yeah, some prophecies, but also just a lot of God's prophecies, but also just a lot of God's prophecies, but also just a lot of God's judgment against different people or judgment against different people or judgment against different people or against Israel or whatever it is. But against Israel or whatever it is. But against Israel or whatever it is. But really, when you spend time in each really, when you spend time in each really, when you spend time in each book, there is these different nuances. book, there is these different nuances. book, there is these different nuances. And that just and that largely comes And that just and that largely comes And that just and that largely comes from these are different people, from these are different people, from these are different people, different prophets and God is using them different prophets and God is using them different prophets and God is using them to give a message, but they're still a to give a message, but they're still a to give a message, but they're still a pro that they still are their person and pro that they still are their person and pro that they still are their person and they have their different way that they have their different way that they have their different way that they're approaching and God has put a they're approaching and God has put a they're approaching and God has put a different message to different people on different message to different people on different message to different people on their hearts. And so that's why I'm their hearts. And so that's why I'm their hearts. And so that's why I'm excited to dig into Amos today excited to dig into Amos today excited to dig into Amos today specifically to see how it's a little specifically to see how it's a little specifically to see how it's a little bit different than what we've been bit different than what we've been bit different than what we've been reading in the past. I I I just reread reading in the past. I I I just reread reading in the past. I I I just reread it recently and it did strike me. I was it recently and it did strike me. I was it recently and it did strike me. I was like, "Oh, this reads differently than like, "Oh, this reads differently than like, "Oh, this reads differently than Joel or Hosea." And it's just that great Joel or Hosea." And it's just that great Joel or Hosea." And it's just that great reminder that yes, it's it's important reminder that yes, it's it's important reminder that yes, it's it's important to spend time in it. Um to unwrap what to spend time in it. Um to unwrap what to spend time in it. Um to unwrap what God has packaged in this in this in this God has packaged in this in this in this God has packaged in this in this in this in in this case, this nine-chapter book.

in in this case, this nine-chapter book. in in this case, this nine-chapter book. So, let's start with the basic details So, let's start with the basic details So, let's start with the basic details then of the book of Amos. Do we know who then of the book of Amos. Do we know who then of the book of Amos. Do we know who wrote the book? It says Amos on it, but wrote the book? It says Amos on it, but wrote the book? It says Amos on it, but do we know who wrote the book of Amos do we know who wrote the book of Amos do we know who wrote the book of Amos and when it was written? And how does and when it was written? And how does and when it was written? And how does knowing these things or maybe not knowing these things or maybe not knowing these things or maybe not knowing these things affect how we read knowing these things affect how we read knowing these things affect how we read the book? the book? the book? >> Yeah, there's a lot of misconceptions. >> Yeah, there's a lot of misconceptions. >> Yeah, there's a lot of misconceptions. Um, Um, Um, so let me just talk about a couple of so let me just talk about a couple of so let me just talk about a couple of them. One, one is we don't know who them. One, one is we don't know who them. One, one is we don't know who actually put pen to paper. So I think actually put pen to paper. So I think actually put pen to paper. So I think it's Amos' voice. Was he using a scribe it's Amos' voice. Was he using a scribe it's Amos' voice. Was he using a scribe or something? We don't know that. So or something? We don't know that. So or something? We don't know that. So >> we say about who wrote it. I think it's >> we say about who wrote it. I think it's >> we say about who wrote it. I think it's Amos' voice. Uh, Amos' voice. Uh, Amos' voice. Uh, >> in the ancient world, very few people >> in the ancient world, very few people >> in the ancient world, very few people knew how to write. So, but he I think knew how to write. So, but he I think knew how to write. So, but he I think was wealthy enough where he could hire a was wealthy enough where he could hire a was wealthy enough where he could hire a scribe. [gasps] scribe. [gasps] scribe. [gasps] >> And that leads me to uh who he was. I >> And that leads me to uh who he was. I >> And that leads me to uh who he was. I mean, so it says [snorts] that he u was mean, so it says [snorts] that he u was mean, so it says [snorts] that he u was a a shepherd. a a shepherd. a a shepherd. This is in chapter 7 This is in chapter 7 This is in chapter 7 >> and they was an owner of sycamore fig >> and they was an owner of sycamore fig >> and they was an owner of sycamore fig trees.

trees. trees. >> But the thing is is the word for >> But the thing is is the word for >> But the thing is is the word for shepherd there uh is not your common shepherd there uh is not your common shepherd there uh is not your common word. So word. So word. So um he um he um he that word actually uh is a word that that word actually uh is a word that that word actually uh is a word that means he also had cattle. It's it's a means he also had cattle. It's it's a means he also had cattle. It's it's a broader type word broader type word broader type word >> and so uh he had sheep. Uh you see that >> and so uh he had sheep. Uh you see that >> and so uh he had sheep. Uh you see that from the opening verse of the book but from the opening verse of the book but from the opening verse of the book but even there that's not the common word. even there that's not the common word. even there that's not the common word. So the the word uh in uh chapter one at So the the word uh in uh chapter one at So the the word uh in uh chapter one at the beginning is a word that that uh the beginning is a word that that uh the beginning is a word that that uh only appears u one other time in the only appears u one other time in the only appears u one other time in the whole old testament whole old testament whole old testament and in the passage it appears it is and in the passage it appears it is and in the passage it appears it is referring to a shepherd quote unquote uh referring to a shepherd quote unquote uh referring to a shepherd quote unquote uh who had 100,000 sheep. So it's not who had 100,000 sheep. So it's not who had 100,000 sheep. So it's not >> your poor little shepherd on the >> your poor little shepherd on the >> your poor little shepherd on the [laughter] the hill which is kind of how [laughter] the hill which is kind of how [laughter] the hill which is kind of how people portray him. people portray him. people portray him. >> That's a lot of sheep. Yeah. >> That's a lot of sheep. Yeah. >> That's a lot of sheep. Yeah. >> A lot of sheep. Uh, and that's another >> A lot of sheep. Uh, and that's another >> A lot of sheep. Uh, and that's another story. Uh, he apparently has cattle and story. Uh, he apparently has cattle and story. Uh, he apparently has cattle and sycamore trees don't grow in the region sycamore trees don't grow in the region sycamore trees don't grow in the region of TCOA.

of TCOA. of TCOA. >> So, he may have had multiple properties. >> So, he may have had multiple properties. >> So, he may have had multiple properties. So, he is a man of substance. So, he is a man of substance. So, he is a man of substance. >> And that might be the reason why when he >> And that might be the reason why when he >> And that might be the reason why when he shows up at the temple at Bethl in shows up at the temple at Bethl in shows up at the temple at Bethl in chapter 7 that they that chapter 7 that they that chapter 7 that they that uh he has an impact because he is a man uh he has an impact because he is a man uh he has an impact because he is a man to be reckoned with. to be reckoned with. to be reckoned with. >> And so, that's why they they want him to >> And so, that's why they they want him to >> And so, that's why they they want him to be quiet and to go away. So, uh, be quiet and to go away. So, uh, be quiet and to go away. So, uh, [snorts] [snorts] [snorts] he knows that an enemy is coming in the he knows that an enemy is coming in the he knows that an enemy is coming in the judgment of God. We know historically judgment of God. We know historically judgment of God. We know historically that would be Assyria just a couple that would be Assyria just a couple that would be Assyria just a couple decades later, but he doesn't even decades later, but he doesn't even decades later, but he doesn't even mention Assyria. So, he knows judgment mention Assyria. So, he knows judgment mention Assyria. So, he knows judgment is coming. He doesn't know exactly when is coming. He doesn't know exactly when is coming. He doesn't know exactly when or who. Uh, in the book, this is just or who. Uh, in the book, this is just or who. Uh, in the book, this is just called the enemy, right? So, or an called the enemy, right? So, or an called the enemy, right? So, or an invader. uh so he would be uh mid uh 8th invader. uh so he would be uh mid uh 8th invader. uh so he would be uh mid uh 8th century so the mid700s uh before Christ century so the mid700s uh before Christ century so the mid700s uh before Christ that would be when be speaking that would be when be speaking that would be when be speaking >> okay so I I I think that's it's helpful >> okay so I I I think that's it's helpful >> okay so I I I think that's it's helpful to look at who Amos was. I think I think to look at who Amos was. I think I think to look at who Amos was. I think I think you're right. We get these pictures or you're right. We get these pictures or you're right. We get these pictures or these misconceptions in our heads these misconceptions in our heads these misconceptions in our heads sometimes about who the prophets may sometimes about who the prophets may sometimes about who the prophets may have been, but it's it's helpful to have been, but it's it's helpful to have been, but it's it's helpful to think about because one of the questions think about because one of the questions think about because one of the questions I haven't I don't think we've actually I haven't I don't think we've actually I haven't I don't think we've actually brought this up in these conversations brought this up in these conversations brought this up in these conversations is these people these prophets were is these people these prophets were is these people these prophets were asked to go and give these messages to asked to go and give these messages to asked to go and give these messages to people. And in my head, I'm thinking people. And in my head, I'm thinking people. And in my head, I'm thinking through the logistics of that. they go through the logistics of that. they go through the logistics of that. they go to, you know, a place or they're writing to, you know, a place or they're writing to, you know, a place or they're writing a or whatever and they say, "I have a a or whatever and they say, "I have a a or whatever and they say, "I have a message from God for you." Like, message from God for you." Like, message from God for you." Like, [laughter]

[laughter] [laughter] a a a why would they listen and b how do they why would they listen and b how do they why would they listen and b how do they know exactly where they're going to go know exactly where they're going to go know exactly where they're going to go and who to tell? [laughter] and who to tell? [laughter] and who to tell? [laughter] >> Yeah. And the interesting thing is uh >> Yeah. And the interesting thing is uh >> Yeah. And the interesting thing is uh Tako is in the south in Judah and he Tako is in the south in Judah and he Tako is in the south in Judah and he ministers in the north uh in the ministers in the north uh in the ministers in the north uh in the northern kingdom in Israel. So that's northern kingdom in Israel. So that's northern kingdom in Israel. So that's one of the reasons why the the high one of the reasons why the the high one of the reasons why the the high priest in chapter 7 will tell him to go priest in chapter 7 will tell him to go priest in chapter 7 will tell him to go back to where he came from. back to where he came from. back to where he came from. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Uh because the thought would be what >> Uh because the thought would be what >> Uh because the thought would be what gives you the right to give us this gives you the right to give us this gives you the right to give us this message? You're not even from here. message? You're not even from here. message? You're not even from here. >> So uh that's that's the other >> So uh that's that's the other >> So uh that's that's the other complication. And so when when Amziah complication. And so when when Amziah complication. And so when when Amziah tells him to go back and he says and tells him to go back and he says and tells him to go back and he says and prophesy over there, his response is prophesy over there, his response is prophesy over there, his response is well you know I'm not a prophet or the well you know I'm not a prophet or the well you know I'm not a prophet or the son of a prophet. It's kind of like no son of a prophet. It's kind of like no son of a prophet. It's kind of like no skin off my back. you know, I'm just skin off my back. you know, I'm just skin off my back. you know, I'm just going to go back to where to what I was going to go back to where to what I was going to go back to where to what I was doing, but this is the word of God. So, doing, but this is the word of God. So, doing, but this is the word of God. So, it's a it's apparently a short ministry, it's a it's apparently a short ministry, it's a it's apparently a short ministry, unlike Isaiah that lasted decades. unlike Isaiah that lasted decades. unlike Isaiah that lasted decades. Apparently, it's a short uh ministry, Apparently, it's a short uh ministry, Apparently, it's a short uh ministry, and then he just goes back uh we think, and then he just goes back uh we think, and then he just goes back uh we think, we're not really sure, back to Judah.

we're not really sure, back to Judah. we're not really sure, back to Judah. >> So, how would you describe the book of >> So, how would you describe the book of >> So, how would you describe the book of Amos then in one sentence? >> That's a hard one. >> That's a hard one. >> It usually is hard. Yeah. [laughter] >> It usually is hard. Yeah. [laughter] >> It usually is hard. Yeah. [laughter] >> Yeah. Uh I think we have to um maybe and >> Yeah. Uh I think we have to um maybe and >> Yeah. Uh I think we have to um maybe and we can get to this later. Uh we can get to this later. Uh we can get to this later. Uh >> it's okay if it's a run-on sentence, by >> it's okay if it's a run-on sentence, by >> it's okay if it's a run-on sentence, by the way. the way. the way. >> Okay. [laughter] >> Okay. [laughter] >> Okay. [laughter] >> Uh he's fighting over the person of God. >> Uh he's fighting over the person of God. >> Uh he's fighting over the person of God. I mean, so this is this is crucial. I mean, so this is this is crucial. I mean, so this is this is crucial. The argument is who is God? The argument is who is God? The argument is who is God? Um and what's he like? So he's not Um and what's he like? So he's not Um and what's he like? So he's not really dealing with uh idolatry. I mean really dealing with uh idolatry. I mean really dealing with uh idolatry. I mean it comes up in a few u ways in the book it comes up in a few u ways in the book it comes up in a few u ways in the book but it's not like Hosea who's about kind but it's not like Hosea who's about kind but it's not like Hosea who's about kind of the same time and Hosea is very of the same time and Hosea is very of the same time and Hosea is very explicitly attacking uh the worship of explicitly attacking uh the worship of explicitly attacking uh the worship of Baal. Uh Amos will hint at some idolatry Baal. Uh Amos will hint at some idolatry Baal. Uh Amos will hint at some idolatry but that's not his argument. He is but that's not his argument. He is but that's not his argument. He is arguing over arguing over arguing over what they what they know and what they what they what they know and what they what they what they know and what they believe about the God of Israel Yahweh.

believe about the God of Israel Yahweh. believe about the God of Israel Yahweh. So that's the battleground So that's the battleground So that's the battleground >> and we'll we'll get to that a bit later. >> and we'll we'll get to that a bit later. >> and we'll we'll get to that a bit later. So you know if I were to describe the So you know if I were to describe the So you know if I were to describe the book in a sentence book in a sentence book in a sentence um it would be whereas some people say um it would be whereas some people say um it would be whereas some people say well he's all about social critique. well he's all about social critique. well he's all about social critique. Well there's a reason behind that. So Well there's a reason behind that. So Well there's a reason behind that. So that's actually a symptom of the that's actually a symptom of the that's actually a symptom of the problem. It's not the problem itself. So problem. It's not the problem itself. So problem. It's not the problem itself. So the idea is uh he's arguing over the the idea is uh he's arguing over the the idea is uh he's arguing over the person of God and and just the person of God and and just the person of God and and just the implications of what that means for implications of what that means for implications of what that means for their social life uh but also their their social life uh but also their their social life uh but also their future. future. future. >> Okay. So as we me as we mentioned >> Okay. So as we me as we mentioned >> Okay. So as we me as we mentioned earlier there's about there's nine earlier there's about there's nine earlier there's about there's nine chapters in the book of Amos. So how chapters in the book of Amos. So how chapters in the book of Amos. So how would you describe then the trajectory would you describe then the trajectory would you describe then the trajectory of this book? Where's this book going of this book? Where's this book going of this book? Where's this book going from chapter 1 through chapter 9? from chapter 1 through chapter 9? from chapter 1 through chapter 9? Well, if you were to look at chapter 1 Well, if you were to look at chapter 1 Well, if you were to look at chapter 1 verse two um and if you understand uh verse two um and if you understand uh verse two um and if you understand uh the ancient world and what's going on the ancient world and what's going on the ancient world and what's going on that defines the the trajectory. So in that defines the the trajectory. So in that defines the the trajectory. So in one two it says Yahweh or the Lord roars one two it says Yahweh or the Lord roars one two it says Yahweh or the Lord roars from Zion and thunders from Jerusalem.

from Zion and thunders from Jerusalem. from Zion and thunders from Jerusalem. Well that's in the south. Well that's in the south. Well that's in the south. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Zion is where the temple of of Yahweh >> Zion is where the temple of of Yahweh >> Zion is where the temple of of Yahweh is. Jerusalem is the capital of the is. Jerusalem is the capital of the is. Jerusalem is the capital of the southern kingdom. So basically what he's southern kingdom. So basically what he's southern kingdom. So basically what he's saying from the very beginning is God's saying from the very beginning is God's saying from the very beginning is God's not here. not here. not here. God is speaking from Judah. God is speaking from Judah. God is speaking from Judah. >> So what he does in the very first line >> So what he does in the very first line >> So what he does in the very first line of the book is to begin to deconstruct of the book is to begin to deconstruct of the book is to begin to deconstruct their whole understanding of God and their whole understanding of God and their whole understanding of God and God's relationship to Israel. So when God's relationship to Israel. So when God's relationship to Israel. So when you get to chapter 9 you get to chapter 9 you get to chapter 9 uh verse 11 uh verse 11 uh verse 11 uh he talks about how God will raise up uh he talks about how God will raise up uh he talks about how God will raise up the uh the fallen tabernacle of David. the uh the fallen tabernacle of David. the uh the fallen tabernacle of David. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Which is the southern kingdom. So what >> Which is the southern kingdom. So what >> Which is the southern kingdom. So what he's saying is from chapters one through he's saying is from chapters one through he's saying is from chapters one through the first part of chapter 9 he is just the first part of chapter 9 he is just the first part of chapter 9 he is just dismantling all their pretense and all dismantling all their pretense and all dismantling all their pretense and all their religious activity. And at the end their religious activity. And at the end their religious activity. And at the end of the book, what he's saying is the of the book, what he's saying is the of the book, what he's saying is the future is not u with Samaria and the future is not u with Samaria and the future is not u with Samaria and the northern kingdom. The future lies in the northern kingdom. The future lies in the northern kingdom. The future lies in the south and the restoration will be south and the restoration will be south and the restoration will be connected to the southern kingdom. So connected to the southern kingdom. So connected to the southern kingdom. So what you find if you wanted to do the what you find if you wanted to do the what you find if you wanted to do the trajectory is this systematic trajectory is this systematic trajectory is this systematic >> in his own literary style >> in his own literary style >> in his own literary style uh dismantling uh dismantling uh dismantling of a whole worldview.

of a whole worldview. of a whole worldview. >> Yeah. in its religion, its politics, and >> Yeah. in its religion, its politics, and >> Yeah. in its religion, its politics, and its social life. Um, and announcing its its social life. Um, and announcing its its social life. Um, and announcing its judgment basically. judgment basically. judgment basically. >> Yeah, I think that's it's it's helpful. >> Yeah, I think that's it's it's helpful. >> Yeah, I think that's it's it's helpful. It's it's it's not it's not that he is It's it's it's not it's not that he is It's it's it's not it's not that he is making these notes to all these making these notes to all these making these notes to all these different nations and people groups. is different nations and people groups. is different nations and people groups. is focusing in and he's spending this time focusing in and he's spending this time focusing in and he's spending this time as you said to to unpack as you said to to unpack as you said to to unpack what has been happening with the people what has been happening with the people what has been happening with the people of Israel. And I I find that um it's of Israel. And I I find that um it's of Israel. And I I find that um it's it's been an interesting time to go it's been an interesting time to go it's been an interesting time to go through in reading through the prophets through in reading through the prophets through in reading through the prophets and I've had these conversations with and I've had these conversations with and I've had these conversations with with all these different guests. We've with all these different guests. We've with all these different guests. We've been talking about the prophets cuz been talking about the prophets cuz been talking about the prophets cuz there are some that are focused more there are some that are focused more there are some that are focused more specifically on Israel and there are specifically on Israel and there are specifically on Israel and there are some that are focused more specifically some that are focused more specifically some that are focused more specifically on the judgment of the other nations. on the judgment of the other nations. on the judgment of the other nations. And um so I I it's it's kind of like a And um so I I it's it's kind of like a And um so I I it's it's kind of like a we get this back and forth sometimes of we get this back and forth sometimes of we get this back and forth sometimes of like is this a book that's about the like is this a book that's about the like is this a book that's about the other nations? Is this a book about other nations? Is this a book about other nations? Is this a book about Israel? Is this a book about Israel and Israel? Is this a book about Israel and Israel? Is this a book about Israel and the other nations? What are we talking the other nations? What are we talking the other nations? What are we talking about here? And this one really is a about here? And this one really is a about here? And this one really is a honing in on Israel. Is that right?

honing in on Israel. Is that right? honing in on Israel. Is that right? >> Yes. But he also connects it to the >> Yes. But he also connects it to the >> Yes. But he also connects it to the nations. So chapters 1 and two, you get nations. So chapters 1 and two, you get nations. So chapters 1 and two, you get the oracles against the nations for the oracles against the nations for the oracles against the nations for three sins, no four. three sins, no four. three sins, no four. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Well, that's also how he begins the >> Well, that's also how he begins the >> Well, that's also how he begins the judgment on Judah. judgment on Judah. judgment on Judah. >> And then it dives in. Yeah. >> And then it dives in. Yeah. >> And then it dives in. Yeah. >> And then he that's how he begins one on >> And then he that's how he begins one on >> And then he that's how he begins one on Israel in in 26. So but what he's saying Israel in in 26. So but what he's saying Israel in in 26. So but what he's saying is [snorts] what he what he condemns the is [snorts] what he what he condemns the is [snorts] what he what he condemns the other nations for is their cruelty and other nations for is their cruelty and other nations for is their cruelty and warfare. Mhm. warfare. Mhm. warfare. Mhm. >> When he the violence >> When he the violence >> When he the violence >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> He turns to Israel beginning in chapter >> He turns to Israel beginning in chapter >> He turns to Israel beginning in chapter 2 6. Now he's talking about 2 6. Now he's talking about 2 6. Now he's talking about social violence. social violence. social violence. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> It's not the violence of their armies. >> It's not the violence of their armies. >> It's not the violence of their armies. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It's the violence against themselves. >> It's the violence against themselves. >> It's the violence against themselves. >> So that should resonate even with this >> So that should resonate even with this >> So that should resonate even with this country where we see there's violence country where we see there's violence country where we see there's violence and wars, you know, around the world. and wars, you know, around the world. and wars, you know, around the world. But what we're witnessing in this But what we're witnessing in this But what we're witnessing in this country is all kinds of social violence. country is all kinds of social violence. country is all kinds of social violence. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Um and that's what he is attacking uh Um and that's what he is attacking uh Um and that's what he is attacking uh within Israel even as he dismantles within Israel even as he dismantles within Israel even as he dismantles um their military pretense there. We um their military pretense there. We um their military pretense there. We would call their their nationalism. I would call their their nationalism. I would call their their nationalism. I mean if you go to chapter 2 uh beginning mean if you go to chapter 2 uh beginning mean if you go to chapter 2 uh beginning in verse 14 to the end in verse 14 to the end in verse 14 to the end >> you know he he this is again some of the >> you know he he this is again some of the >> you know he he this is again some of the literary stuff but he lists seven literary stuff but he lists seven literary stuff but he lists seven different kinds of soldiers that are different kinds of soldiers that are different kinds of soldiers that are running away because in defeat. So what running away because in defeat. So what running away because in defeat. So what you have is, you know, seven types of you have is, you know, seven types of you have is, you know, seven types of soldiers. This is perfect defeat and soldiers. This is perfect defeat and soldiers. This is perfect defeat and humiliation because they're running away humiliation because they're running away humiliation because they're running away naked. Yeah. I mean, so it and and in naked. Yeah. I mean, so it and and in naked. Yeah. I mean, so it and and in chapter three, the fortresses are going

chapter three, the fortresses are going chapter three, the fortresses are going to be destroyed. So he is just totally to be destroyed. So he is just totally to be destroyed. So he is just totally dismantling them. And what you find um dismantling them. And what you find um dismantling them. And what you find um this may be more information than you this may be more information than you this may be more information than you want. want. want. >> I'll take it, please. [laughter] >> I'll take it, please. [laughter] >> I'll take it, please. [laughter] >> In in in chapter three, um you know, >> In in in chapter three, um you know, >> In in in chapter three, um you know, verse 9, he's actually calling the other verse 9, he's actually calling the other verse 9, he's actually calling the other nations to come watch the destruction. M nations to come watch the destruction. M nations to come watch the destruction. M >> northern kingdom. So the so the the >> northern kingdom. So the so the the >> northern kingdom. So the so the the kingdoms that he's describing as being kingdoms that he's describing as being kingdoms that he's describing as being judged in chapters 1 and two now become judged in chapters 1 and two now become judged in chapters 1 and two now become witnesses witnesses witnesses to the judgment upon Israel. to the judgment upon Israel. to the judgment upon Israel. >> So it's a very um and at the end of the >> So it's a very um and at the end of the >> So it's a very um and at the end of the book uh chapter 9:12 the nations will book uh chapter 9:12 the nations will book uh chapter 9:12 the nations will come to know the Lord. come to know the Lord. come to know the Lord. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So it's a very interesting interplay >> So it's a very interesting interplay >> So it's a very interesting interplay between the condemnation of the nations between the condemnation of the nations between the condemnation of the nations because of their violence. because of their violence. because of their violence. >> Yeah. the condemnation of Israel for its >> Yeah. the condemnation of Israel for its >> Yeah. the condemnation of Israel for its internal violence. internal violence. internal violence. >> The judgment will be an invasion >> The judgment will be an invasion >> The judgment will be an invasion >> and at the end there'll be kind of a >> and at the end there'll be kind of a >> and at the end there'll be kind of a worldwide u uh belief in God.

worldwide u uh belief in God. worldwide u uh belief in God. >> We've already touched on some of these a >> We've already touched on some of these a >> We've already touched on some of these a little bit, but but I want to give you little bit, but but I want to give you little bit, but but I want to give you space here to talk about the major space here to talk about the major space here to talk about the major themes that we find in this book. And I themes that we find in this book. And I themes that we find in this book. And I always like approaching it this way. How always like approaching it this way. How always like approaching it this way. How does knowing these themes as as we talk does knowing these themes as as we talk does knowing these themes as as we talk about them? How does knowing them in about them? How does knowing them in about them? How does knowing them in advance kind of help you read the book? advance kind of help you read the book? advance kind of help you read the book? >> Well, you know what I have to do when I >> Well, you know what I have to do when I >> Well, you know what I have to do when I teach this book is reorient how people teach this book is reorient how people teach this book is reorient how people think about faith. think about faith. think about faith. >> Um Amos is known for being this uh >> Um Amos is known for being this uh >> Um Amos is known for being this uh really harsh social critic. really harsh social critic. really harsh social critic. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> But what you find in the book of Amos is >> But what you find in the book of Amos is >> But what you find in the book of Amos is that he will couple the social critique. that he will couple the social critique. that he will couple the social critique. He's not the only one that does this. He's not the only one that does this. He's not the only one that does this. Isaiah would be another great example. Isaiah would be another great example. Isaiah would be another great example. It does the same. They couple uh social It does the same. They couple uh social It does the same. They couple uh social critique with the critique of the critique with the critique of the critique with the critique of the worship. worship. worship. Now, the normal thing in evangelical Now, the normal thing in evangelical Now, the normal thing in evangelical circles is, "Oh, we need to be we need circles is, "Oh, we need to be we need circles is, "Oh, we need to be we need to care for the poor." Okay, that's to care for the poor." Okay, that's to care for the poor." Okay, that's that's true. that's true. that's true. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> But what you're seeing in in the Old >> But what you're seeing in in the Old >> But what you're seeing in in the Old Testament and the prophets are hitting Testament and the prophets are hitting Testament and the prophets are hitting at it is because they they wed the two.

at it is because they they wed the two. at it is because they they wed the two. If you do not do social justice, If you do not do social justice, If you do not do social justice, you do not know God. M you do not know God. M you do not know God. M >> so uh you may be very religiously >> so uh you may be very religiously >> so uh you may be very religiously active. I mean in the book of Amos active. I mean in the book of Amos active. I mean in the book of Amos they're very active. They're filling the they're very active. They're filling the they're very active. They're filling the temples and we can look at some passages temples and we can look at some passages temples and we can look at some passages later if you want. But um what he's later if you want. But um what he's later if you want. But um what he's saying is that you're worshiping another saying is that you're worshiping another saying is that you're worshiping another god. I mean, you might call him Yahweh, god. I mean, you might call him Yahweh, god. I mean, you might call him Yahweh, but the very fact that your society but the very fact that your society but the very fact that your society functions the way it does, the very fact functions the way it does, the very fact functions the way it does, the very fact that you have this misplaced that you have this misplaced that you have this misplaced nationalism, nationalism, nationalism, >> um, you are selfdeceived and your selfde >> um, you are selfdeceived and your selfde >> um, you are selfdeceived and your selfde deception is destructive deception is destructive deception is destructive and God will reject this religion even and God will reject this religion even and God will reject this religion even if it's in his name. You know, the the if it's in his name. You know, the the if it's in his name. You know, the the best example of this would be u in the best example of this would be u in the best example of this would be u in the book of Ezekiel where he just finally book of Ezekiel where he just finally book of Ezekiel where he just finally says, "I'm done. I'm out." says, "I'm done. I'm out." says, "I'm done. I'm out." >> And he leaves the temple. And so the >> And he leaves the temple. And so the >> And he leaves the temple. And so the final judgment will be the destruction final judgment will be the destruction final judgment will be the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem. I mean, it's of the temple in Jerusalem. I mean, it's of the temple in Jerusalem. I mean, it's the same thing you see going on here.

the same thing you see going on here. the same thing you see going on here. >> The problem is they don't understand God >> The problem is they don't understand God >> The problem is they don't understand God even if they worship him because they even if they worship him because they even if they worship him because they they're worshiping a God that they've they're worshiping a God that they've they're worshiping a God that they've created. M created. M created. M >> now if I could give an example I mean >> now if I could give an example I mean >> now if I could give an example I mean it'd be like if you look around at you it'd be like if you look around at you it'd be like if you look around at you know um you're in California so know um you're in California so know um you're in California so >> how many different Jesuses can you find >> how many different Jesuses can you find >> how many different Jesuses can you find on a Sunday morning? [laughter] on a Sunday morning? [laughter] on a Sunday morning? [laughter] >> Sure. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> Okay. So the question is who is the real >> Okay. So the question is who is the real >> Okay. So the question is who is the real Jesus? Jesus? Jesus? >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Is it the Jesus of Hollywood? Is it the >> Is it the Jesus of Hollywood? Is it the >> Is it the Jesus of Hollywood? Is it the Jesus of progressives on the streets? Is Jesus of progressives on the streets? Is Jesus of progressives on the streets? Is it the Jesus of Showtime, you know, it the Jesus of Showtime, you know, it the Jesus of Showtime, you know, evangelical suburban churches? Is it the evangelical suburban churches? Is it the evangelical suburban churches? Is it the Jesus of the Catholic Church? Is it the Jesus of the Catholic Church? Is it the Jesus of the Catholic Church? Is it the Jesus, you know, of the Anglican church? Jesus, you know, of the Anglican church? Jesus, you know, of the Anglican church? Who is the real Jesus? That becomes the Who is the real Jesus? That becomes the Who is the real Jesus? That becomes the debate. debate. debate. >> That's what you're seeing in the >> That's what you're seeing in the >> That's what you're seeing in the prophets. And what they're saying is you prophets. And what they're saying is you prophets. And what they're saying is you can't separate can't separate can't separate your social life from your view of God. your social life from your view of God. your social life from your view of God. Uh because once you do and you Uh because once you do and you Uh because once you do and you compartmentalize those things, you begin compartmentalize those things, you begin compartmentalize those things, you begin to distort God.

to distort God. to distort God. >> You will create him. Uh you'll go, if we >> You will create him. Uh you'll go, if we >> You will create him. Uh you'll go, if we could use modern words, you'll go, could use modern words, you'll go, could use modern words, you'll go, you'll find the church that you most you'll find the church that you most you'll find the church that you most like. like. like. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> And that becomes the question in our >> And that becomes the question in our >> And that becomes the question in our churches, did you like the service? churches, did you like the service? churches, did you like the service? >> That's not the question. Actually, the >> That's not the question. Actually, the >> That's not the question. Actually, the question should be, who was the god of question should be, who was the god of question should be, who was the god of the service? the service? the service? >> That you see, you're just changing the >> That you see, you're just changing the >> That you see, you're just changing the whole framework. whole framework. whole framework. >> It's just a different lens. Yeah. A >> It's just a different lens. Yeah. A >> It's just a different lens. Yeah. A different perspective way to think about different perspective way to think about different perspective way to think about it. it. it. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. It's it's interesting too to put >> Yeah. It's it's interesting too to put >> Yeah. It's it's interesting too to put this in the proper, you know, in the this in the proper, you know, in the this in the proper, you know, in the context of the story of God with Israel. context of the story of God with Israel. context of the story of God with Israel. Yeah. Right. is you and I I I always Yeah. Right. is you and I I I always Yeah. Right. is you and I I I always think as we've been walking through this think as we've been walking through this think as we've been walking through this series from Genesis now into Amos is we series from Genesis now into Amos is we series from Genesis now into Amos is we have this story of God have this story of God have this story of God with his family, God with these these with his family, God with these these with his family, God with these these people that he says you are my people people that he says you are my people people that he says you are my people and all of the trials and tribulations and all of the trials and tribulations and all of the trials and tribulations they've been through and God being the they've been through and God being the they've been through and God being the faithful God always there faithful God always there faithful God always there and yet he you know and and then we have and yet he you know and and then we have and yet he you know and and then we have the kingdom with David and then we have, the kingdom with David and then we have, the kingdom with David and then we have, you know, all of the division that comes you know, all of the division that comes you know, all of the division that comes thereafter.

thereafter. thereafter. And then here you have God saying, "You And then here you have God saying, "You And then here you have God saying, "You don't even know me anymore." don't even know me anymore." don't even know me anymore." And that's the sad part that we've And that's the sad part that we've And that's the sad part that we've gotten to again as we've gone through gotten to again as we've gone through gotten to again as we've gone through people wanting to build calves and people wanting to build calves and people wanting to build calves and worship, you know, like. So, but and so worship, you know, like. So, but and so worship, you know, like. So, but and so again, we find ourselves back in this again, we find ourselves back in this again, we find ourselves back in this downward cycle of you once again don't downward cycle of you once again don't downward cycle of you once again don't even know me. even know me. even know me. >> Yeah. And you know, uh, you know, you >> Yeah. And you know, uh, you know, you >> Yeah. And you know, uh, you know, you mentioned like the Exodus and stuff. I mentioned like the Exodus and stuff. I mentioned like the Exodus and stuff. I mean, you'll see at the beginning of mean, you'll see at the beginning of mean, you'll see at the beginning of chapter 3 and even earlier in chapter 2, chapter 3 and even earlier in chapter 2, chapter 3 and even earlier in chapter 2, he he will turn the Exodus against them. he he will turn the Exodus against them. he he will turn the Exodus against them. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> He says, "Because I took you out, you >> He says, "Because I took you out, you >> He says, "Because I took you out, you were more guilty because you're beyond were more guilty because you're beyond were more guilty because you're beyond excuse. We have a history together." excuse. We have a history together." excuse. We have a history together." And so you, you know, you you have no And so you, you know, you you have no And so you, you know, you you have no excuse. And so that's, you know, that's excuse. And so that's, you know, that's excuse. And so that's, you know, that's that's what he'll hit. They just they that's what he'll hit. They just they that's what he'll hit. They just they don't don't don't >> they think they understand. But he's >> they think they understand. But he's >> they think they understand. But he's been very patient. I mean, for three been very patient. I mean, for three been very patient. I mean, for three sins, no four. And then in chapter four, sins, no four. And then in chapter four, sins, no four. And then in chapter four, he says, you know, I sent you um hunger he says, you know, I sent you um hunger he says, you know, I sent you um hunger and drought and uh agricultural disaster and drought and uh agricultural disaster and drought and uh agricultural disaster and even war. And five times he says, and even war. And five times he says, and even war. And five times he says, but you didn't return to me. M but you didn't return to me. M but you didn't return to me. M >> he's been patient but it's it's they've >> he's been patient but it's it's they've >> he's been patient but it's it's they've reached the end and he goes it's I'm reached the end and he goes it's I'm reached the end and he goes it's I'm done done done >> and um >> and um >> and um >> this is why they have to re understand >> this is why they have to re understand >> this is why they have to re understand or reframe how they understand the or reframe how they understand the or reframe how they understand the person of God because even though

person of God because even though person of God because even though they're very religious they're very religious they're very religious >> can I go to a passage real quick? >> can I go to a passage real quick? >> can I go to a passage real quick? >> Sure please. >> Sure please. >> Sure please. >> Yeah. In chapter 4 uh look how he frames >> Yeah. In chapter 4 uh look how he frames >> Yeah. In chapter 4 uh look how he frames this. I mean in chapter 4 verse4 go to this. I mean in chapter 4 verse4 go to this. I mean in chapter 4 verse4 go to Bethl and sin. This is the sanctuary. Bethl and sin. This is the sanctuary. Bethl and sin. This is the sanctuary. ill gal and sin yet more. See their ill gal and sin yet more. See their ill gal and sin yet more. See their their worship itself is the sin. their worship itself is the sin. their worship itself is the sin. >> Bring your sacrifices every morning, >> Bring your sacrifices every morning, >> Bring your sacrifices every morning, your tithes every 3 years, burn leaven your tithes every 3 years, burn leaven your tithes every 3 years, burn leaven bread as a thank offering and brag about bread as a thank offering and brag about bread as a thank offering and brag about your free will offerings. And here's the your free will offerings. And here's the your free will offerings. And here's the line. Boast about them because this is line. Boast about them because this is line. Boast about them because this is what you love to do. what you love to do. what you love to do. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You see, so it they're very religious >> You see, so it they're very religious >> You see, so it they're very religious and they they they're very proud of and they they they're very proud of and they they they're very proud of being so religious. being so religious. being so religious. uh but he's mocking them and he's uh but he's mocking them and he's uh but he's mocking them and he's calling, you know, all of their calling, you know, all of their calling, you know, all of their religious activity religious activity religious activity uh sin. In fact, if you were to go into uh sin. In fact, if you were to go into uh sin. In fact, if you were to go into the details of the text, everything the details of the text, everything the details of the text, everything that's mentioned there, none of those that's mentioned there, none of those that's mentioned there, none of those things deal with sin. It's these are all things deal with sin. It's these are all things deal with sin. It's these are all thanksgiving thanksgiving thanksgiving offerings or celebration. So, what he's offerings or celebration. So, what he's offerings or celebration. So, what he's what he's critiquing, and again, just what he's critiquing, and again, just what he's critiquing, and again, just think about the American scene.

think about the American scene. think about the American scene. >> What he's critiquing is >> What he's critiquing is >> What he's critiquing is >> um a religion of celebration. >> um a religion of celebration. >> um a religion of celebration. >> That's all they do. They celebrate. >> That's all they do. They celebrate. >> That's all they do. They celebrate. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Um nothing about judgment or justice. >> Um nothing about judgment or justice. >> Um nothing about judgment or justice. It's all about celebrating the goodness It's all about celebrating the goodness It's all about celebrating the goodness of God. of God. of God. >> And then that's when you get beginning >> And then that's when you get beginning >> And then that's when you get beginning in verse six, you know, he says, "But in verse six, you know, he says, "But in verse six, you know, he says, "But look, I gave you hunger and drought and look, I gave you hunger and drought and look, I gave you hunger and drought and all these things. There's nothing to all these things. There's nothing to all these things. There's nothing to celebrate is what he's saying." celebrate is what he's saying." celebrate is what he's saying." >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Fact, that's I sent every kind of >> Fact, that's I sent every kind of >> Fact, that's I sent every kind of disaster against you so you would repent disaster against you so you would repent disaster against you so you would repent and you still refuse. and you still refuse. and you still refuse. >> Yeah. Therefore, he says in chapter >> Yeah. Therefore, he says in chapter >> Yeah. Therefore, he says in chapter 4:12, because this is what I will do to 4:12, because this is what I will do to 4:12, because this is what I will do to you, prepare to meet your God. you, prepare to meet your God. you, prepare to meet your God. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> Yeah, that's a scary sentence right >> Yeah, that's a scary sentence right >> Yeah, that's a scary sentence right there. there. there. >> Scary because [clears throat] you know, >> Scary because [clears throat] you know, >> Scary because [clears throat] you know, if you go back, you know, to chapter 4, if you go back, you know, to chapter 4, if you go back, you know, to chapter 4, verse four, they they would think that verse four, they they would think that verse four, they they would think that going to Bethl and Gilgal, they were going to Bethl and Gilgal, they were going to Bethl and Gilgal, they were meeting God. meeting God. meeting God. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But at the end, after he's listed all >> But at the end, after he's listed all >> But at the end, after he's listed all these things, he says, "Okay, prepare to these things, he says, "Okay, prepare to these things, he says, "Okay, prepare to meet me meet me meet me >> because you haven't yet." And um that's >> because you haven't yet." And um that's >> because you haven't yet." And um that's not a nice thought.

not a nice thought. not a nice thought. >> Yeah. And then we get, you know, a >> Yeah. And then we get, you know, a >> Yeah. And then we get, you know, a little bit later in chapter five, I I little bit later in chapter five, I I little bit later in chapter five, I I think it's it's this famous verse that think it's it's this famous verse that think it's it's this famous verse that come back to me and live from 54. come back to me and live from 54. come back to me and live from 54. >> And and and what that is indicating is >> And and and what that is indicating is >> And and and what that is indicating is guys, all these things that you've been guys, all these things that you've been guys, all these things that you've been doing is not life. doing is not life. doing is not life. That like so come back to me and live. That like so come back to me and live. That like so come back to me and live. all these things that I've been all these things that I've been all these things that I've been critiquing you for that I've been called critiquing you for that I've been called critiquing you for that I've been called that's that's because that's not real that's that's because that's not real that's that's because that's not real life. That's not the life that I had life. That's not the life that I had life. That's not the life that I had called you to. It is it is in knowing called you to. It is it is in knowing called you to. It is it is in knowing the true me in in your genuine authentic the true me in in your genuine authentic the true me in in your genuine authentic relationship with me and what worshiping relationship with me and what worshiping relationship with me and what worshiping me truly looks like from a repentant me truly looks like from a repentant me truly looks like from a repentant heart. That's where I am and that's heart. That's where I am and that's heart. That's where I am and that's where life is. um not not this culture where life is. um not not this culture where life is. um not not this culture of just constant celebr all all this all of just constant celebr all all this all of just constant celebr all all this all this ex this this ex this this ex this >> a performative engagement of your faith >> a performative engagement of your faith >> a performative engagement of your faith life life life >> yeah even when you go to that verse you >> yeah even when you go to that verse you >> yeah even when you go to that verse you quoted in uh in chapter 5 seek me and quoted in uh in chapter 5 seek me and quoted in uh in chapter 5 seek me and live he says don't seek Bethl don't seek live he says don't seek Bethl don't seek live he says don't seek Bethl don't seek the sanctuary don't don't go to Gilgal the sanctuary don't don't go to Gilgal the sanctuary don't don't go to Gilgal don't go to the sanctuaries and there's don't go to the sanctuaries and there's don't go to the sanctuaries and there's a certain structure in this passage but a certain structure in this passage but a certain structure in this passage but it's it's it's it's it's it's >> I see it yeah >> I see it yeah >> I see it yeah >> it's mirror verse is verse 14.

>> it's mirror verse is verse 14. >> it's mirror verse is verse 14. >> Uh-huh. >> Uh-huh. >> Uh-huh. >> See, good, not evil. >> See, good, not evil. >> See, good, not evil. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That you may live. Can you hear the echo >> That you may live. Can you hear the echo >> That you may live. Can you hear the echo of of verse four? And then verse 15, of of verse four? And then verse 15, of of verse four? And then verse 15, hate evil, love good, maintain justice hate evil, love good, maintain justice hate evil, love good, maintain justice in the courts, and perhaps maybe he'll in the courts, and perhaps maybe he'll in the courts, and perhaps maybe he'll have mercy on the remnant. See, he's have mercy on the remnant. See, he's have mercy on the remnant. See, he's already assuming the judgment. already assuming the judgment. already assuming the judgment. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> maybe he will have mercy on those that >> maybe he will have mercy on those that >> maybe he will have mercy on those that remain after the judgment. So, it's just remain after the judgment. So, it's just remain after the judgment. So, it's just he's just dismantling their whole he's just dismantling their whole he's just dismantling their whole religious uh world basically. religious uh world basically. religious uh world basically. >> Well, this whole time we've been talking >> Well, this whole time we've been talking >> Well, this whole time we've been talking a little bit about what this book is a little bit about what this book is a little bit about what this book is teaching us about God. We hadn't teaching us about God. We hadn't teaching us about God. We hadn't actually I hadn't actually officially actually I hadn't actually officially actually I hadn't actually officially asked you the question yet. So, is there asked you the question yet. So, is there asked you the question yet. So, is there is there anything else that you want to is there anything else that you want to is there anything else that you want to take in the book of Amos about what this take in the book of Amos about what this take in the book of Amos about what this book teaches us about God? I think uh you know I think we need to I think uh you know I think we need to get beyond this evangelical idea of we get beyond this evangelical idea of we get beyond this evangelical idea of we need to be in right relationship with need to be in right relationship with need to be in right relationship with God and therefore worship is okay. I God and therefore worship is okay. I God and therefore worship is okay. I mean that's very simplistic mean that's very simplistic mean that's very simplistic >> as what he's saying is if you're not in >> as what he's saying is if you're not in >> as what he's saying is if you're not in right relationship with everyone around right relationship with everyone around right relationship with everyone around you then you can't be in right you then you can't be in right you then you can't be in right relationship with me because you don't relationship with me because you don't relationship with me because you don't >> love God and love others. It's kind of a >> love God and love others. It's kind of a >> love God and love others. It's kind of a a two-prong thing there.

a two-prong thing there. a two-prong thing there. >> Well, it's it's the two great >> Well, it's it's the two great >> Well, it's it's the two great commandments that even Jesus I commandments that even Jesus I commandments that even Jesus I [laughter] mean it's it but that's our [laughter] mean it's it but that's our [laughter] mean it's it but that's our problem. we we bifrocate those things problem. we we bifrocate those things problem. we we bifrocate those things >> and then uh we don't really have u >> and then uh we don't really have u >> and then uh we don't really have u repentance, we have celebration. So repentance, we have celebration. So repentance, we have celebration. So we're actually moving away. And here's a we're actually moving away. And here's a we're actually moving away. And here's a sticky one. If you get uh to verse 18 of sticky one. If you get uh to verse 18 of sticky one. If you get uh to verse 18 of chapter 5, chapter 5, chapter 5, >> woe to you who long for the day of the >> woe to you who long for the day of the >> woe to you who long for the day of the Lord. Lord. Lord. >> Long for the day of the Lord, it'll be >> Long for the day of the Lord, it'll be >> Long for the day of the Lord, it'll be darkness, not light. And he'll repeat darkness, not light. And he'll repeat darkness, not light. And he'll repeat the same thing in verse 20. the same thing in verse 20. the same thing in verse 20. So, you know, in this country, you hear So, you know, in this country, you hear So, you know, in this country, you hear about Christian nationalism. about Christian nationalism. about Christian nationalism. Um, and that's a sticky subject. It's a Um, and that's a sticky subject. It's a Um, and that's a sticky subject. It's a complicated one. Yeah. As you know, complicated one. Yeah. As you know, complicated one. Yeah. As you know, >> but that's what they had. A a >> but that's what they had. A a >> but that's what they had. A a nationalism where they thought that God nationalism where they thought that God nationalism where they thought that God always before them and we're going to be always before them and we're going to be always before them and we're going to be victorious in the day of the Lord. He victorious in the day of the Lord. He victorious in the day of the Lord. He goes, "You have no idea." goes, "You have no idea." goes, "You have no idea." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That what's coming is is darkness, not >> That what's coming is is darkness, not >> That what's coming is is darkness, not light. Mhm. light. Mhm. light. Mhm. >> So I that would be, you know, I mean >> So I that would be, you know, I mean >> So I that would be, you know, I mean Amos does end with uh a few verses of Amos does end with uh a few verses of Amos does end with uh a few verses of hope, [laughter] but but he's actually hope, [laughter] but but he's actually hope, [laughter] but but he's actually kind of screaming at them because they kind of screaming at them because they kind of screaming at them because they don't have much time.

don't have much time. don't have much time. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And so it's he's just screaming at them >> And so it's he's just screaming at them >> And so it's he's just screaming at them uh one last time, you see. uh one last time, you see. uh one last time, you see. >> Um and of course they they won't turn >> Um and of course they they won't turn >> Um and of course they they won't turn and the Assyrians will come and and and the Assyrians will come and and and the Assyrians will come and and destroy it. Yeah. destroy it. Yeah. destroy it. Yeah. >> Yeah. That's a I think that's an >> Yeah. That's a I think that's an >> Yeah. That's a I think that's an important point is you know is we can important point is you know is we can important point is you know is we can long for you know as as Amos was talking long for you know as as Amos was talking long for you know as as Amos was talking about here the day of the Lord but and about here the day of the Lord but and about here the day of the Lord but and whatnot but whatnot but whatnot but what's that going to mean for everybody what's that going to mean for everybody what's that going to mean for everybody else else else >> and so if you're not doing what you need >> and so if you're not doing what you need >> and so if you're not doing what you need to do if if you're not doing your best to do if if you're not doing your best to do if if you're not doing your best to love others you know to to point to love others you know to to point to love others you know to to point people back to God to call for people back to God to call for people back to God to call for repentance to live a a just and social repentance to live a a just and social repentance to live a a just and social you know have you know have you know have those halls of justice that that we were those halls of justice that that we were those halls of justice that that we were talking about like then then yes the day talking about like then then yes the day talking about like then then yes the day of the Lord is going to come of the Lord is going to come of the Lord is going to come >> but it's it's going to be a little bit >> but it's it's going to be a little bit >> but it's it's going to be a little bit different than maybe you think different than maybe you think different than maybe you think [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> uh because that's going to be a day of >> uh because that's going to be a day of >> uh because that's going to be a day of you know of of joy for many but also sad you know of of joy for many but also sad you know of of joy for many but also sad like like darkness for many and that's like like darkness for many and that's like like darkness for many and that's what he says right there you have no what he says right there you have no what he says right there you have no idea what you are wishing for that day idea what you are wishing for that day idea what you are wishing for that day will bring darkness not light, then that will bring darkness not light, then that will bring darkness not light, then that day you will be like a man who runs from day you will be like a man who runs from day you will be like a man who runs from a lion only to meet a bear. Like a lion only to meet a bear. Like a lion only to meet a bear. Like [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] he's painting that picture pretty he's painting that picture pretty he's painting that picture pretty starkly.

starkly. starkly. >> Yeah. You you you can't run basically. >> Yeah. You you you can't run basically. >> Yeah. You you you can't run basically. You can't run and you can't hide. You can't run and you can't hide. You can't run and you can't hide. >> And you know where you see this whole >> And you know where you see this whole >> And you know where you see this whole issue too is um issue too is um issue too is um in in in chapter 7 when he's confronting in in in chapter 7 when he's confronting in in in chapter 7 when he's confronting the the high priest, the high priest the the high priest, the high priest the the high priest, the high priest gets the implications. You have to gets the implications. You have to gets the implications. You have to understand the ancient world. But he understand the ancient world. But he understand the ancient world. But he says to the king in verse 10 of chapter says to the king in verse 10 of chapter says to the king in verse 10 of chapter 7, Amos is conspiring against the king. 7, Amos is conspiring against the king. 7, Amos is conspiring against the king. See, if you were to crit criticize the See, if you were to crit criticize the See, if you were to crit criticize the religion, you were criticizing the religion, you were criticizing the religion, you were criticizing the government. government. government. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That's how it works in the ancient >> That's how it works in the ancient >> That's how it works in the ancient world. So he says to to the king, world. So he says to to the king, world. So he says to to the king, Jeroboam, that he's conspiring. I mean, Jeroboam, that he's conspiring. I mean, Jeroboam, that he's conspiring. I mean, he's he's he's reading Amos he's he's he's reading Amos he's he's he's reading Amos politically and not just religiously as politically and not just religiously as politically and not just religiously as as he should actually. And then what you as he should actually. And then what you as he should actually. And then what you can see how he just shows the can see how he just shows the can see how he just shows the nationalism nationalism nationalism um in in verse 13. um in in verse 13. um in in verse 13. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Uh the pri the high priest says to Amos, >> Uh the pri the high priest says to Amos, >> Uh the pri the high priest says to Amos, "Don't prophesy anymore at Bethl. This "Don't prophesy anymore at Bethl. This "Don't prophesy anymore at Bethl. This is the primary sanctuary of the northern is the primary sanctuary of the northern is the primary sanctuary of the northern kingdom because this is the king's kingdom because this is the king's kingdom because this is the king's sanctuary and the temple of the sanctuary and the temple of the sanctuary and the temple of the kingdom." And there it is.

kingdom." And there it is. kingdom." And there it is. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> The wedding of of the government with >> The wedding of of the government with >> The wedding of of the government with the idea that God is with them. uh the idea that God is with them. uh the idea that God is with them. uh without question. And what he is saying without question. And what he is saying without question. And what he is saying is no. What Amos is saying is actually is no. What Amos is saying is actually is no. What Amos is saying is actually no. And then if the rest of the chapter no. And then if the rest of the chapter no. And then if the rest of the chapter there's a special judgment for the high there's a special judgment for the high there's a special judgment for the high priest cuz he [sighs] priest cuz he [sighs] priest cuz he [sighs] he's the one who's been perpetuating he's the one who's been perpetuating he's the one who's been perpetuating this false this false this false >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> view of God. >> view of God. >> view of God. I will say that from from 714 and 15 and I will say that from from 714 and 15 and I will say that from from 714 and 15 and are are some of my favorite verses in are are some of my favorite verses in are are some of my favorite verses in all of the prophets because [laughter] all of the prophets because [laughter] all of the prophets because [laughter] because I just love I just love how because I just love I just love how because I just love I just love how clear Amos puts it. I'm not a clear Amos puts it. I'm not a clear Amos puts it. I'm not a professional prophet. That's just professional prophet. That's just professional prophet. That's just Albert. That's just a hilarious thing to Albert. That's just a hilarious thing to Albert. That's just a hilarious thing to say. [laughter] I'm not a professional say. [laughter] I'm not a professional say. [laughter] I'm not a professional prophet and I was never trained to be prophet and I was never trained to be prophet and I was never trained to be one. I'm just a shepherd. I take care of one. I'm just a shepherd. I take care of one. I'm just a shepherd. I take care of the sycamore trees. But the Lord called the sycamore trees. But the Lord called the sycamore trees. But the Lord called me away from my flock and told me to go me away from my flock and told me to go me away from my flock and told me to go and prophesy to my people in Israel. and prophesy to my people in Israel. and prophesy to my people in Israel. He's like, "I'm just here because God He's like, "I'm just here because God He's like, "I'm just here because God told me to do. I'm a shepherd. God gave told me to do. I'm a shepherd. God gave told me to do. I'm a shepherd. God gave me this message for you. That's why I'm me this message for you. That's why I'm me this message for you. That's why I'm here. So, you can get mad at me. You can here. So, you can get mad at me. You can here. So, you can get mad at me. You can kick me out. All I'm here to do is tell kick me out. All I'm here to do is tell kick me out. All I'm here to do is tell you the message." [laughter] you the message." [laughter] you the message." [laughter] >> Yeah. And like I said, it's not like the >> Yeah. And like I said, it's not like the >> Yeah. And like I said, it's not like the shepherd on the side of a hill, you shepherd on the side of a hill, you shepherd on the side of a hill, you know, with a staff.

know, with a staff. know, with a staff. >> Yeah. He comes with a bit more a little >> Yeah. He comes with a bit more a little >> Yeah. He comes with a bit more a little bit more gravitas. Yeah. bit more gravitas. Yeah. bit more gravitas. Yeah. >> Yeah. He comes all kinds of gravitas. >> Yeah. He comes all kinds of gravitas. >> Yeah. He comes all kinds of gravitas. And it's interesting to think about what And it's interesting to think about what And it's interesting to think about what he actually is giving up to go to the he actually is giving up to go to the he actually is giving up to go to the north and and say these things. north and and say these things. north and and say these things. >> Yeah. So, um, you know, which is a bit >> Yeah. So, um, you know, which is a bit >> Yeah. So, um, you know, which is a bit of a self-sacrifice because he's putting of a self-sacrifice because he's putting of a self-sacrifice because he's putting himself out there, as we would say, um, himself out there, as we would say, um, himself out there, as we would say, um, across the border. And so, that's why across the border. And so, that's why across the border. And so, that's why the pro the priest will say, you know, the pro the priest will say, you know, the pro the priest will say, you know, go back to where you came from. But you go back to where you came from. But you go back to where you came from. But you can see that the high priest has a can see that the high priest has a can see that the high priest has a skewed view because he's saying, earn skewed view because he's saying, earn skewed view because he's saying, earn your earn your bread in the south. I your earn your bread in the south. I your earn your bread in the south. I mean, you know, we pay the prophets to mean, you know, we pay the prophets to mean, you know, we pay the prophets to say what we want them to say. say what we want them to say. say what we want them to say. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Go to the south and and and earn your >> Go to the south and and and earn your >> Go to the south and and and earn your money down there. And so again, even his money down there. And so again, even his money down there. And so again, even his view of what a prophet is is skewed. view of what a prophet is is skewed. view of what a prophet is is skewed. >> He thinks it's just a, you know, a word >> He thinks it's just a, you know, a word >> He thinks it's just a, you know, a word for God from God for higher basically. for God from God for higher basically. for God from God for higher basically. >> And so I mean, the high priest is is >> And so I mean, the high priest is is >> And so I mean, the high priest is is wrong at so many levels. And the wrong at so many levels. And the wrong at so many levels. And the implications for the nation are pretty implications for the nation are pretty implications for the nation are pretty sad. sad. sad. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah. We've talked quite a bit about what this We've talked quite a bit about what this We've talked quite a bit about what this book teaches us about ourselves. We've book teaches us about ourselves. We've book teaches us about ourselves. We've we've talked a little bit about how we we've talked a little bit about how we we've talked a little bit about how we view our worship. We talked about the view our worship. We talked about the view our worship. We talked about the real Jesus and whatnot, but but I wanted real Jesus and whatnot, but but I wanted real Jesus and whatnot, but but I wanted to open this up to you. Is there to open this up to you. Is there to open this up to you. Is there anything else that you wanted to share anything else that you wanted to share anything else that you wanted to share about what this book teaches us about about what this book teaches us about about what this book teaches us about people, about ourselves? people, about ourselves? people, about ourselves? >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. I think the thing it teaches us is I've I think the thing it teaches us is I've I think the thing it teaches us is I've kind of I've kind of beat the drum on kind of I've kind of beat the drum on kind of I've kind of beat the drum on this. this. this. >> I love it. >> I love it. >> I love it. >> It is the selfdeception. >> It is the selfdeception. >> It is the selfdeception. >> Yeah. Um, >> Yeah. Um, >> Yeah. Um, you know, I mean, you can see how God, you know, I mean, you can see how God, you know, I mean, you can see how God, it's visceral his rejection of the it's visceral his rejection of the it's visceral his rejection of the religion. If you go to uh chapter 5, 21, religion. If you go to uh chapter 5, 21, religion. If you go to uh chapter 5, 21, I hate, I despise, I hate, I despise, I hate, I despise, >> I'm not going to listen to you. And then >> I'm not going to listen to you. And then >> I'm not going to listen to you. And then in verse 24, this is a verse that's most in verse 24, this is a verse that's most in verse 24, this is a verse that's most people will know if they know anything people will know if they know anything people will know if they know anything about Amos about let justice roll down. about Amos about let justice roll down. about Amos about let justice roll down. I mean, that's the one that people know I mean, that's the one that people know I mean, that's the one that people know 524. It's picked up by Martin Luther 524. It's picked up by Martin Luther 524. It's picked up by Martin Luther King and others. I mean so it's very King and others. I mean so it's very King and others. I mean so it's very famous verse but it's following on his famous verse but it's following on his famous verse but it's following on his his diet tribe against their religion.

his diet tribe against their religion. his diet tribe against their religion. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Again you know we'll separ separate that >> Again you know we'll separ separate that >> Again you know we'll separ separate that verse out and go let justice roll down verse out and go let justice roll down verse out and go let justice roll down you know oh let's march and all this you know oh let's march and all this you know oh let's march and all this kind of stuff but it's actually tied kind of stuff but it's actually tied kind of stuff but it's actually tied into their religion. into their religion. into their religion. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Verse 21 to 23. >> Verse 21 to 23. >> Verse 21 to 23. >> So um >> So um >> So um >> that would be that would be the I mean >> that would be that would be the I mean >> that would be that would be the I mean that's the word. I mean it's not a happy that's the word. I mean it's not a happy that's the word. I mean it's not a happy word. That's why you never hear Amos word. That's why you never hear Amos word. That's why you never hear Amos preached in the [laughter] church. preached in the [laughter] church. preached in the [laughter] church. >> But >> But >> But >> because Yeah. If if he begins to be >> because Yeah. If if he begins to be >> because Yeah. If if he begins to be preached with what he's actually saying, preached with what he's actually saying, preached with what he's actually saying, >> it would call into question a lot of >> it would call into question a lot of >> it would call into question a lot of what we do. what we do. what we do. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> And what we've invested in. >> And what we've invested in. >> And what we've invested in. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That's a hard pill to swallow. But it's >> That's a hard pill to swallow. But it's >> That's a hard pill to swallow. But it's also I I I think it can be pretty also I I I think it can be pretty also I I I think it can be pretty evident to see the corlaries between evident to see the corlaries between evident to see the corlaries between what what Amos is saying here and what what what Amos is saying here and what what what Amos is saying here and what we see Jesus talking to the Pharisees we see Jesus talking to the Pharisees we see Jesus talking to the Pharisees about you know don't put on the about you know don't put on the about you know don't put on the performative prayers but pray on you performative prayers but pray on you performative prayers but pray on you know go into your quiet place and pray know go into your quiet place and pray know go into your quiet place and pray or or the you know even the idea of or or the you know even the idea of or or the you know even the idea of wanting to heal on the Sabbath you know wanting to heal on the Sabbath you know wanting to heal on the Sabbath you know as opposed to this perform like you know as opposed to this perform like you know as opposed to this perform like you know the Pharisees getting all upset that and the Pharisees getting all upset that and the Pharisees getting all upset that and and Jesus is saying, um, I'm I'm sorry.

and Jesus is saying, um, I'm I'm sorry. and Jesus is saying, um, I'm I'm sorry. I'm I'm helping people. Like, it's kind I'm I'm helping people. Like, it's kind I'm I'm helping people. Like, it's kind of what we're called to do and this is of what we're called to do and this is of what we're called to do and this is the right way to live. And so, in so the right way to live. And so, in so the right way to live. And so, in so many ter it's so I think there's there's many ter it's so I think there's there's many ter it's so I think there's there's a clear dis a a clear dis a a clear dis a clear picture of Jesus that we can see clear picture of Jesus that we can see clear picture of Jesus that we can see as we're reading this and be like, as we're reading this and be like, as we're reading this and be like, here's Jesus saying this is the true here's Jesus saying this is the true here's Jesus saying this is the true religion. religion. religion. >> Yeah. And he's not arguing with the Jews >> Yeah. And he's not arguing with the Jews >> Yeah. And he's not arguing with the Jews about another god. about another god. about another god. >> No. >> No. >> No. Um and he's not actually arguing over Um and he's not actually arguing over Um and he's not actually arguing over their religious rituals. I mean he's a their religious rituals. I mean he's a their religious rituals. I mean he's a pract he's a practicing Jew. I mean he's pract he's a practicing Jew. I mean he's pract he's a practicing Jew. I mean he's he's going to to synagogue for instance. he's going to to synagogue for instance. he's going to to synagogue for instance. I mean he's a practicing Jew. I mean he's a practicing Jew. I mean he's a practicing Jew. >> But what what he is fighting over this >> But what what he is fighting over this >> But what what he is fighting over this is where you see the correlary. Yeah. is where you see the correlary. Yeah. is where you see the correlary. Yeah. >> With prophets. He's fighting over how >> With prophets. He's fighting over how >> With prophets. He's fighting over how they understand God they understand God they understand God >> and what God requires >> and what God requires >> and what God requires to actually show that you know him. I to actually show that you know him. I to actually show that you know him. I mean so that's the fight of Jesus. So mean so that's the fight of Jesus. So mean so that's the fight of Jesus. So he'll take a whip out in the temple and he'll take a whip out in the temple and he'll take a whip out in the temple and whip people out. I mean whip people out. I mean whip people out. I mean >> he's not saying you know this worship is >> he's not saying you know this worship is >> he's not saying you know this worship is all bad. I mean God had established all bad. I mean God had established all bad. I mean God had established those very rituals those very rituals those very rituals >> for sure.

>> for sure. >> for sure. >> Yeah. But it's it's they have a >> Yeah. But it's it's they have a >> Yeah. But it's it's they have a distorted view of God and that's his distorted view of God and that's his distorted view of God and that's his debate in his time with his people. The debate in his time with his people. The debate in his time with his people. The same kind of thing that you see going on same kind of thing that you see going on same kind of thing that you see going on >> uh in Amos. >> uh in Amos. >> uh in Amos. >> Yeah. So we've mentioned a bunch of >> Yeah. So we've mentioned a bunch of >> Yeah. So we've mentioned a bunch of different passages and verses. Are there different passages and verses. Are there different passages and verses. Are there two or so that you want to specifically two or so that you want to specifically two or so that you want to specifically highlight and say say as you are going highlight and say say as you are going highlight and say say as you are going to read Amos, maybe you've never read it to read Amos, maybe you've never read it to read Amos, maybe you've never read it before. If you're going to dive into before. If you're going to dive into before. If you're going to dive into this now, here are two or three that I this now, here are two or three that I this now, here are two or three that I that I want you to flag. >> Yeah. I think in chapter five, we've >> Yeah. I think in chapter five, we've already highlighted good time there. already highlighted good time there. already highlighted good time there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. 521 to 24. I think uh that >> Yeah. 521 to 24. I think uh that >> Yeah. 521 to 24. I think uh that encapsulates encapsulates encapsulates what we're saying. Uh, it all goes what we're saying. Uh, it all goes what we're saying. Uh, it all goes together and um it's they're not happy together and um it's they're not happy together and um it's they're not happy verses. verses. verses. Um, but I I think I think that's the Um, but I I think I think that's the Um, but I I think I think that's the essence of the book. I mean, there's I essence of the book. I mean, there's I essence of the book. I mean, there's I could go on and on and on, but I if you could go on and on and on, but I if you could go on and on and on, but I if you want, want, want, >> you know, just a nice little section >> you know, just a nice little section >> you know, just a nice little section that encapsulates what he's trying to that encapsulates what he's trying to that encapsulates what he's trying to get at, I think those verses would be a get at, I think those verses would be a get at, I think those verses would be a good place to start.

good place to start. good place to start. >> Yeah, I have my NLT open right here. And >> Yeah, I have my NLT open right here. And >> Yeah, I have my NLT open right here. And the header for that chapter is a call to the header for that chapter is a call to the header for that chapter is a call to repentance. Almost anytime you read a repentance. Almost anytime you read a repentance. Almost anytime you read a header that says a call to repentance, header that says a call to repentance, header that says a call to repentance, that's probably a good place to hunker that's probably a good place to hunker that's probably a good place to hunker down in a little bit. [laughter] down in a little bit. [laughter] down in a little bit. [laughter] Are there any [snorts] We've mentioned Are there any [snorts] We've mentioned Are there any [snorts] We've mentioned too how Amos isn't the most fun book to too how Amos isn't the most fun book to too how Amos isn't the most fun book to read necessarily. It's not preached read necessarily. It's not preached read necessarily. It's not preached through the most. So So this question through the most. So So this question through the most. So So this question just might be talking about this or you just might be talking about this or you just might be talking about this or you may have something else that you want to may have something else that you want to may have something else that you want to mention. But I always ask, are there any mention. But I always ask, are there any mention. But I always ask, are there any sticky parts that that you want to call sticky parts that that you want to call sticky parts that that you want to call out in the book? In other words, parts out in the book? In other words, parts out in the book? In other words, parts that are particularly hard to read or that are particularly hard to read or that are particularly hard to read or confusing um that are worth making note confusing um that are worth making note confusing um that are worth making note of. of. of. >> Yeah, I think we've kind of hit on them. >> Yeah, I think we've kind of hit on them. >> Yeah, I think we've kind of hit on them. Um I'm going to mention one that we've Um I'm going to mention one that we've Um I'm going to mention one that we've already hit on, then mention something already hit on, then mention something already hit on, then mention something else. else. else. >> Great. The one that we hit on I think we >> Great. The one that we hit on I think we >> Great. The one that we hit on I think we have the thing that I would try to get have the thing that I would try to get have the thing that I would try to get your listeners to understand is the your listeners to understand is the your listeners to understand is the relationship between relationship between relationship between social ethics and worship. The Bible social ethics and worship. The Bible social ethics and worship. The Bible doesn't see how those can be separated.

doesn't see how those can be separated. doesn't see how those can be separated. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So I think that would be the the main >> So I think that would be the the main >> So I think that would be the the main point. point. point. >> Um what true worship of God is >> Um what true worship of God is >> Um what true worship of God is >> versus how we have popularly done it. >> versus how we have popularly done it. >> versus how we have popularly done it. The other thing that that's very sticky The other thing that that's very sticky The other thing that that's very sticky especially in our culture today especially in our culture today especially in our culture today is that and this is another reason why is that and this is another reason why is that and this is another reason why you don't see the book preached is the you don't see the book preached is the you don't see the book preached is the reality of judgment. reality of judgment. reality of judgment. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> You know, we'd always want to talk about >> You know, we'd always want to talk about >> You know, we'd always want to talk about God blesses. You know, God's a good God. God blesses. You know, God's a good God. God blesses. You know, God's a good God. God is good all the time. I mean, this God is good all the time. I mean, this God is good all the time. I mean, this kind of thing that we do. But what um kind of thing that we do. But what um kind of thing that we do. But what um what you find in the Old Testament is what you find in the Old Testament is what you find in the Old Testament is that you cannot have justice without that you cannot have justice without that you cannot have justice without judgment. Now we do this in our judgment. Now we do this in our judgment. Now we do this in our societies. I mean someone kills societies. I mean someone kills societies. I mean someone kills somebody, we demand justice. All right? somebody, we demand justice. All right? somebody, we demand justice. All right? Which means the judgment in the court Which means the judgment in the court Which means the judgment in the court system. system. system. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Just think about that with God. I mean >> Just think about that with God. I mean >> Just think about that with God. I mean you can't have justice whether it's you can't have justice whether it's you can't have justice whether it's justice justice justice >> uh in war as we see in Ukraine for >> uh in war as we see in Ukraine for >> uh in war as we see in Ukraine for instance. What would be justice instance. What would be justice instance. What would be justice >> uh in the war of Ukraine?

>> uh in the war of Ukraine? >> uh in the war of Ukraine? >> That's the kind of question he's dealing >> That's the kind of question he's dealing >> That's the kind of question he's dealing with. Invasion. I mean, invasion is what with. Invasion. I mean, invasion is what with. Invasion. I mean, invasion is what they live. they live. they live. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> For us, it's something we read about or >> For us, it's something we read about or >> For us, it's something we read about or watch in a movie. watch in a movie. watch in a movie. >> It's a real It's a live experience for >> It's a real It's a live experience for >> It's a real It's a live experience for them. them. them. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> They've seen it. >> They've seen it. >> They've seen it. >> And so, and it's coming again. I mean, >> And so, and it's coming again. I mean, >> And so, and it's coming again. I mean, so, so, so, >> um, you know, what does justice look >> um, you know, what does justice look >> um, you know, what does justice look like? And and and what does God do when like? And and and what does God do when like? And and and what does God do when he calls it to account? he calls it to account? he calls it to account? >> Well, it means that it calls for for >> Well, it means that it calls for for >> Well, it means that it calls for for judgment. judgment. judgment. And I think that's something that we And I think that's something that we And I think that's something that we need to begin to consider as evangelical need to begin to consider as evangelical need to begin to consider as evangelical Christians. Christians. Christians. >> Um, and it's where we can learn about >> Um, and it's where we can learn about >> Um, and it's where we can learn about people who actually live in war or live people who actually live in war or live people who actually live in war or live in famine and things um that we don't. in famine and things um that we don't. in famine and things um that we don't. So we abstract it and we just argue over So we abstract it and we just argue over So we abstract it and we just argue over how good God is, which that's an how good God is, which that's an how good God is, which that's an important thing. important thing. important thing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But this other piece about um what will >> But this other piece about um what will >> But this other piece about um what will the judgment of God look like? the judgment of God look like? the judgment of God look like? And he will eventually judge every And he will eventually judge every And he will eventually judge every nation in the world which includes this nation in the world which includes this nation in the world which includes this one. one. one. >> Mhm.

>> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> And what will that look like? >> And what will that look like? >> And what will that look like? >> And how can we how can we make it so >> And how can we how can we make it so >> And how can we how can we make it so that that that it might not happen or it might not happen or it might not happen or it might be different. it might be different. it might be different. >> Uh but it God will eventually call this >> Uh but it God will eventually call this >> Uh but it God will eventually call this country as he's done every country in country as he's done every country in country as he's done every country in the history of the world. the history of the world. the history of the world. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> He will call us to account. And um I >> He will call us to account. And um I >> He will call us to account. And um I think that's the sobering message that think that's the sobering message that think that's the sobering message that we find in the prophets. we find in the prophets. we find in the prophets. >> And it's not just about predictions >> And it's not just about predictions >> And it's not just about predictions about the coming of Jesus for Christmas. about the coming of Jesus for Christmas. about the coming of Jesus for Christmas. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> That's true. >> That's true. >> That's true. >> That's in there. I mean, that's >> That's in there. I mean, that's >> That's in there. I mean, that's obviously in there. And that's why obviously in there. And that's why obviously in there. And that's why that's why you need Messiah basically. that's why you need Messiah basically. that's why you need Messiah basically. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You need Jesus, you see, because of the >> You need Jesus, you see, because of the >> You need Jesus, you see, because of the very nature of our societies and the very nature of our societies and the very nature of our societies and the world that we've built. world that we've built. world that we've built. Uh, and as you said too, there is, you Uh, and as you said too, there is, you Uh, and as you said too, there is, you know, a small part of Amos does have know, a small part of Amos does have know, a small part of Amos does have this message of hope as well. There's this message of hope as well. There's this message of hope as well. There's there's all of this reality of judgment, there's all of this reality of judgment, there's all of this reality of judgment, but there's also a promise of hope. And but there's also a promise of hope. And but there's also a promise of hope. And that and that's what we see a little bit that and that's what we see a little bit that and that's what we see a little bit in nine with this promise of in nine with this promise of in nine with this promise of restoration. In that day, I will restore restoration. In that day, I will restore restoration. In that day, I will restore the fallen house of David. Um, so and the fallen house of David. Um, so and the fallen house of David. Um, so and and that's how a lot of these prophet and that's how a lot of these prophet and that's how a lot of these prophet books end is is looking ahead like, hey, books end is is looking ahead like, hey, books end is is looking ahead like, hey, there's there's judgment is going to there's there's judgment is going to there's there's judgment is going to come. Uh, and yet I'm I can even look come. Uh, and yet I'm I can even look come. Uh, and yet I'm I can even look farther ahead than that and I can tell farther ahead than that and I can tell farther ahead than that and I can tell you what's going to happen in the you what's going to happen in the you what's going to happen in the future. But future. But future. But >> yeah. Yeah.

>> yeah. Yeah. >> yeah. Yeah. >> And and that's important. It's not >> And and that's important. It's not >> And and that's important. It's not random jud judgment for the sake of it. random jud judgment for the sake of it. random jud judgment for the sake of it. I mean, there's something on the other I mean, there's something on the other I mean, there's something on the other side. And you can even see in 51 where side. And you can even see in 51 where side. And you can even see in 51 where God laments God laments God laments in Isaiah 28:21 it says judgment is the in Isaiah 28:21 it says judgment is the in Isaiah 28:21 it says judgment is the strange work of God. strange work of God. strange work of God. >> And he wants to bless. I mean this is >> And he wants to bless. I mean this is >> And he wants to bless. I mean this is the gospel right? John 3:16. the gospel right? John 3:16. the gospel right? John 3:16. >> If you read 16 and 17 and the other >> If you read 16 and 17 and the other >> If you read 16 and 17 and the other verses around it, it's you know he loved verses around it, it's you know he loved verses around it, it's you know he loved the world so much. But right next to it, the world so much. But right next to it, the world so much. But right next to it, it'll talk about judgment. it'll talk about judgment. it'll talk about judgment. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. And so, but his the work that he wants And so, but his the work that he wants And so, but his the work that he wants to do is to forgive and bless. So, even to do is to forgive and bless. So, even to do is to forgive and bless. So, even he as he's he's talked about judgment he as he's he's talked about judgment he as he's he's talked about judgment and and how he's been patient time and and and how he's been patient time and and and how he's been patient time and time again, he laments, time again, he laments, time again, he laments, you know, having to do this. you know, having to do this. you know, having to do this. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It's not the end of the story. At the >> It's not the end of the story. At the >> It's not the end of the story. At the end of the judgment, there will be end of the judgment, there will be end of the judgment, there will be restoration. And even though now there's restoration. And even though now there's restoration. And even though now there's hunger in chapter 4, um, and the only hunger in chapter 4, um, and the only hunger in chapter 4, um, and the only people that are enjoying everything in people that are enjoying everything in people that are enjoying everything in chapter six are the wealthy.

chapter six are the wealthy. chapter six are the wealthy. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But in the future, everyone will have >> But in the future, everyone will have >> But in the future, everyone will have food, everyone will have their farms, food, everyone will have their farms, food, everyone will have their farms, everyone will have things uh to drink. everyone will have things uh to drink. everyone will have things uh to drink. >> But it's interesting in that hope >> But it's interesting in that hope >> But it's interesting in that hope passage, there is no mention of passage, there is no mention of passage, there is no mention of fortresses. fortresses. fortresses. >> You know, the wars will end. >> You know, the wars will end. >> You know, the wars will end. >> Yeah. Uh and that is a real hope. Um you >> Yeah. Uh and that is a real hope. Um you >> Yeah. Uh and that is a real hope. Um you know we we don't experience war. It's know we we don't experience war. It's know we we don't experience war. It's always somewhere else. But in that part always somewhere else. But in that part always somewhere else. But in that part of the world, the end of war of the world, the end of war of the world, the end of war um was a a longing. um was a a longing. um was a a longing. >> Um and like I said, you know, that kind >> Um and like I said, you know, that kind >> Um and like I said, you know, that kind of message of message of message uh at the the end of war would ring uh at the the end of war would ring uh at the the end of war would ring powerfully powerfully powerfully in Ukraine. in Ukraine. in Ukraine. >> For sure. >> For sure. >> For sure. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Most definitely. Yeah, >> Most definitely. Yeah, >> Most definitely. Yeah, >> we've talked through so much in this >> we've talked through so much in this >> we've talked through so much in this book. You've helped us to navigate book. You've helped us to navigate book. You've helped us to navigate through some pretty tricky waters in through some pretty tricky waters in through some pretty tricky waters in this book and I really appreciate it. this book and I really appreciate it. this book and I really appreciate it. What would you like to leave people What would you like to leave people What would you like to leave people thinking about this book?

thinking about this book? thinking about this book? >> Yeah, you know, I really haven't done a >> Yeah, you know, I really haven't done a >> Yeah, you know, I really haven't done a great job of um great job of um great job of um [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] I mean I'm almost scaring people. I mean I'm almost scaring people. I mean I'm almost scaring people. >> I'm showing a bunch of fanfare for the >> I'm showing a bunch of fanfare for the >> I'm showing a bunch of fanfare for the book. No, it's it's all important. It book. No, it's it's all important. It book. No, it's it's all important. It is. [laughter] is. [laughter] is. [laughter] I mean, so you know, I mean, so you know, I mean, so you know, I think um I think um I think um it's inviting people to really begin to it's inviting people to really begin to it's inviting people to really begin to explore dimensions of God they may not explore dimensions of God they may not explore dimensions of God they may not have thought about. have thought about. have thought about. >> Uh I think that would be, you know, what >> Uh I think that would be, you know, what >> Uh I think that would be, you know, what I would say at the end. Um I would say at the end. Um I would say at the end. Um you know, these these messages are so you know, these these messages are so you know, these these messages are so radical and so counter evangelical radical and so counter evangelical radical and so counter evangelical culture. culture. culture. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That we just avoid them. >> That we just avoid them. >> That we just avoid them. >> Mhm. Except if it's about Christmas and >> Mhm. Except if it's about Christmas and >> Mhm. Except if it's about Christmas and you know you know you know >> it's true [laughter] >> it's true [laughter] >> it's true [laughter] >> or you know Isaiah 53 with the cross. >> or you know Isaiah 53 with the cross. >> or you know Isaiah 53 with the cross. Okay. I think that's f foundational. So Okay. I think that's f foundational. So Okay. I think that's f foundational. So I'm not I'm not I'm not >> saying that's bad. >> saying that's bad. >> saying that's bad. >> What I'm saying is it's incomplete. >> What I'm saying is it's incomplete. >> What I'm saying is it's incomplete. >> Yeah. And so I think getting to know God >> Yeah. And so I think getting to know God >> Yeah. And so I think getting to know God and seeing the seriousness of what it and seeing the seriousness of what it and seeing the seriousness of what it means to know God means to know God means to know God and how we can enter into a dimension of and how we can enter into a dimension of and how we can enter into a dimension of worship we've never thought about. Mhm.

worship we've never thought about. Mhm. worship we've never thought about. Mhm. >> Um I'll say one last story and then >> Um I'll say one last story and then >> Um I'll say one last story and then >> please >> please >> please >> uh I'm in Wheaten now, but uh before I >> uh I'm in Wheaten now, but uh before I >> uh I'm in Wheaten now, but uh before I lived in Denver and we went to this lived in Denver and we went to this lived in Denver and we went to this church, they had a ministry to the church, they had a ministry to the church, they had a ministry to the homeless. homeless. homeless. >> And so they would be in the service and >> And so they would be in the service and >> And so they would be in the service and some of them had come to faith and to some of them had come to faith and to some of them had come to faith and to watch their faces when they would sing. watch their faces when they would sing. watch their faces when they would sing. Oh my gosh. And they would help with, Oh my gosh. And they would help with, Oh my gosh. And they would help with, you know, picking up the offering and you know, picking up the offering and you know, picking up the offering and all this kind of stuff. But what you saw all this kind of stuff. But what you saw all this kind of stuff. But what you saw was a church embracing the homeless in was a church embracing the homeless in was a church embracing the homeless in the area around the church. Uh and so, the area around the church. Uh and so, the area around the church. Uh and so, you know, at coffee time they'd be out you know, at coffee time they'd be out you know, at coffee time they'd be out in in the patio smoking their cigarettes in in the patio smoking their cigarettes in in the patio smoking their cigarettes and everything. and everything. and everything. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But here they were engaging >> But here they were engaging >> But here they were engaging this population. Yeah. this population. Yeah. this population. Yeah. >> Or I did a lot of work with immigration >> Or I did a lot of work with immigration >> Or I did a lot of work with immigration because of my Guatemalan background. because of my Guatemalan background. because of my Guatemalan background. There's all kinds of of ways to There's all kinds of of ways to There's all kinds of of ways to integrate faith and and social issues integrate faith and and social issues integrate faith and and social issues and and moving into other dimensions of and and moving into other dimensions of and and moving into other dimensions of what it means to be a Christian. Um to what it means to be a Christian. Um to what it means to be a Christian. Um to really explore the face of God. I think really explore the face of God. I think really explore the face of God. I think that would be that would be that would be >> my final word.

>> my final word. >> my final word. >> Yeah. I I don't think we could end it >> Yeah. I I don't think we could end it >> Yeah. I I don't think we could end it any better than that. And as you said, any better than that. And as you said, any better than that. And as you said, the looks on the faces the looks on the faces the looks on the faces um of people um of people um of people in the throws of genuine authentic in the throws of genuine authentic in the throws of genuine authentic worship of the God who saves worship of the God who saves worship of the God who saves >> um and is is uh truly special and it's >> um and is is uh truly special and it's >> um and is is uh truly special and it's something that we can all learn from. I something that we can all learn from. I something that we can all learn from. I love that. love that. love that. >> Would you mind closing us in prayer >> Would you mind closing us in prayer >> Would you mind closing us in prayer today, Danny? Specifically praying for today, Danny? Specifically praying for today, Danny? Specifically praying for people. Uh I'm sure everybody is going people. Uh I'm sure everybody is going people. Uh I'm sure everybody is going to want to dive into reading Amos now. to want to dive into reading Amos now. to want to dive into reading Amos now. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] I don't I don't know if they will. I don't I don't know if they will. I don't I don't know if they will. >> Um again, if you like as you said, Amos >> Um again, if you like as you said, Amos >> Um again, if you like as you said, Amos is an invitation is an invitation is an invitation to not just assessing and thinking about to not just assessing and thinking about to not just assessing and thinking about your view of God and how you are your view of God and how you are your view of God and how you are thinking about God, but it's an thinking about God, but it's an thinking about God, but it's an invitation to a more full complete invitation to a more full complete invitation to a more full complete picture of who God is. picture of who God is. picture of who God is. Not just the God of of good feelings and Not just the God of of good feelings and Not just the God of of good feelings and and and and the good life, but that good and and and the good life, but that good and and and the good life, but that good life also includes these issues of life also includes these issues of life also includes these issues of social justice, these issues of truly social justice, these issues of truly social justice, these issues of truly caring for and loving your neighbor and caring for and loving your neighbor and caring for and loving your neighbor and these issues of what is like authentic these issues of what is like authentic these issues of what is like authentic relationship with him look like? And so relationship with him look like? And so relationship with him look like? And so if you see this book as an invitation, if you see this book as an invitation, if you see this book as an invitation, um, then it's 100% um, then it's 100% um, then it's 100% it's not as scary to read [laughter] it's not as scary to read [laughter] it's not as scary to read [laughter] as I think some people may make it seem

as I think some people may make it seem as I think some people may make it seem cuz yes, there is talk of judgment and cuz yes, there is talk of judgment and cuz yes, there is talk of judgment and there is um, you know, some some harsh there is um, you know, some some harsh there is um, you know, some some harsh language in it, but it's all pointing language in it, but it's all pointing language in it, but it's all pointing you back to the heart of God. Um, so you back to the heart of God. Um, so you back to the heart of God. Um, so yeah, so if you wouldn't mind closing us yeah, so if you wouldn't mind closing us yeah, so if you wouldn't mind closing us in prayer, I I would really appreciate in prayer, I I would really appreciate in prayer, I I would really appreciate that. Yes, father. Thank you for this that. Yes, father. Thank you for this that. Yes, father. Thank you for this time around your word, and it's not an time around your word, and it's not an time around your word, and it's not an easy word. That's why we tend to avoid easy word. That's why we tend to avoid easy word. That's why we tend to avoid uh these prophetic books, uh these prophetic books, uh these prophetic books, but they echo into the life in in words but they echo into the life in in words but they echo into the life in in words of Jesus himself and into the epistles of Jesus himself and into the epistles of Jesus himself and into the epistles the same the same themes and topics. the same the same themes and topics. the same the same themes and topics. May uh the book of Amos teach us more May uh the book of Amos teach us more May uh the book of Amos teach us more about you, about what true worship about you, about what true worship about you, about what true worship means, means, means, that we might please you and be a light that we might please you and be a light that we might please you and be a light to the nations. Uh that we can truly be to the nations. Uh that we can truly be to the nations. Uh that we can truly be a witness to a world around us. Uh may a witness to a world around us. Uh may a witness to a world around us. Uh may [music] we not be like the world, but [music] we not be like the world, but [music] we not be like the world, but may we be different from the world so we may we be different from the world so we may we be different from the world so we can speak authentically to it and live can speak authentically to it and live can speak authentically to it and live within it [music] within it [music] within it [music] as light. We ask this in Jesus' name.

as light. We ask this in Jesus' name. as light. We ask this in Jesus' name. Amen.