May 2026 eChurch Virtual Mixer

N man, I know I know today has been N man, I know I know today has been already an amazing day for you. You had already an amazing day for you. You had already an amazing day for you. You had put on social media that you were doing put on social media that you were doing put on social media that you were doing um you always on the move, but you had um you always on the move, but you had um you always on the move, but you had put on social media today that you were put on social media today that you were put on social media today that you were uh preparing to talk to Harvard and just uh preparing to talk to Harvard and just uh preparing to talk to Harvard and just more of the things that you're doing. more of the things that you're doing. more of the things that you're doing. Man, God has really just been moving in Man, God has really just been moving in Man, God has really just been moving in your life, man. your life, man. your life, man. >> Yeah, man. It's it's been a blessing um >> Yeah, man. It's it's been a blessing um >> Yeah, man. It's it's been a blessing um to watch my work expand um beyond uh my to watch my work expand um beyond uh my to watch my work expand um beyond uh my own own own >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> you know, imagination. And um today was >> you know, imagination. And um today was >> you know, imagination. And um today was really dope, man. and I had the really dope, man. and I had the really dope, man. and I had the opportunity to speak um for Harvard opportunity to speak um for Harvard opportunity to speak um for Harvard University um and to talk about um University um and to talk about um University um and to talk about um athletes and uh the journey uh of beyond athletes and uh the journey uh of beyond athletes and uh the journey uh of beyond the locker room um and also to talk the locker room um and also to talk the locker room um and also to talk about preventative care um to talk about about preventative care um to talk about about preventative care um to talk about afterare and um because also I'll be afterare and um because also I'll be afterare and um because also I'll be joining um Harvard's clinical research joining um Harvard's clinical research joining um Harvard's clinical research team on trying to figure out how do we team on trying to figure out how do we team on trying to figure out how do we create a system and create a plan in create a system and create a plan in create a system and create a plan in place for athletes um when they leave place for athletes um when they leave place for athletes um when they leave the field. I think that is critical uh the field. I think that is critical uh the field. I think that is critical uh particularly for men uh when they leave particularly for men uh when they leave particularly for men uh when they leave places where they feel like they don't places where they feel like they don't places where they feel like they don't have belonging when they have been have belonging when they have been have belonging when they have been accustomed to camaraderie. You've been accustomed to camaraderie. You've been accustomed to camaraderie. You've been accustomed to having your teammates and accustomed to having your teammates and accustomed to having your teammates and all of a sudden whether you leave on all of a sudden whether you leave on all of a sudden whether you leave on your own or you sent home early that's your own or you sent home early that's your own or you sent home early that's that's hard to navigate through because that's hard to navigate through because that's hard to navigate through because community uh is necessary for our brain.

community uh is necessary for our brain. community uh is necessary for our brain. It's necessary for a stable mental It's necessary for a stable mental It's necessary for a stable mental health. And so I'm just excited, man, health. And so I'm just excited, man, health. And so I'm just excited, man, what God is doing um in my life and what God is doing um in my life and what God is doing um in my life and through me. Um you know, just to to uh through me. Um you know, just to to uh through me. Um you know, just to to uh to think, you know, uh I made 44 uh well to think, you know, uh I made 44 uh well to think, you know, uh I made 44 uh well almost a month ago uh now. And to think almost a month ago uh now. And to think almost a month ago uh now. And to think >> surviving my second suicide attempt at >> surviving my second suicide attempt at >> surviving my second suicide attempt at 31. And to think what God has done with 31. And to think what God has done with 31. And to think what God has done with my life at 44, man, it's just my life at 44, man, it's just my life at 44, man, it's just mind-blowing, mind-blowing, mind-blowing, >> man. And I and I remember there was a a >> man. And I and I remember there was a a >> man. And I and I remember there was a a clip and you've shared it. Um, Bishop clip and you've shared it. Um, Bishop clip and you've shared it. Um, Bishop has shared it of of a moment, powerful has shared it of of a moment, powerful has shared it of of a moment, powerful moment in service. Bishop moment in service. Bishop moment in service. Bishop >> called you out, lay hands on you, >> called you out, lay hands on you, >> called you out, lay hands on you, >> man. Brother, you know, it it was man, I >> man. Brother, you know, it it was man, I >> man. Brother, you know, it it was man, I I can't put into put it into words, man. I can't put into put it into words, man. I can't put into put it into words, man. >> Uh, >> Uh, >> Uh, God is just this this great orchestrator God is just this this great orchestrator God is just this this great orchestrator of life of life of life >> in ways that you can't imagine, in ways >> in ways that you can't imagine, in ways >> in ways that you can't imagine, in ways that you can't think about. Like I that you can't think about. Like I that you can't think about. Like I didn't know, Bishop. didn't know, Bishop. didn't know, Bishop. >> Yeah. I was here visiting church back in >> Yeah. I was here visiting church back in >> Yeah. I was here visiting church back in 2018.

2018. 2018. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> And you know, sitting on the fourth row, >> And you know, sitting on the fourth row, >> And you know, sitting on the fourth row, you know, going through a major breakup you know, going through a major breakup you know, going through a major breakup and trying to figure out life and and trying to figure out life and and trying to figure out life and >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And he called me out and then >> And he called me out and then >> And he called me out and then >> uh 2022 I I was living in Dallas and I >> uh 2022 I I was living in Dallas and I >> uh 2022 I I was living in Dallas and I was doing the Just Here, bro tour was doing the Just Here, bro tour was doing the Just Here, bro tour >> and we meet backstage because I had to >> and we meet backstage because I had to >> and we meet backstage because I had to give Joel something that he left. I was give Joel something that he left. I was give Joel something that he left. I was there that night. there that night. there that night. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, uh he left something and >> Yeah. Yeah. So, uh he left something and >> Yeah. Yeah. So, uh he left something and Joel was like, "Yeah, come back come Joel was like, "Yeah, come back come Joel was like, "Yeah, come back come backstage." And this is in 2022. And so backstage." And this is in 2022. And so backstage." And this is in 2022. And so Bishop, you know, I walked up. He's Bishop, you know, I walked up. He's Bishop, you know, I walked up. He's like, "Man, I love what you're doing. I like, "Man, I love what you're doing. I like, "Man, I love what you're doing. I love the Just Hill bro movement." He's love the Just Hill bro movement." He's love the Just Hill bro movement." He's like, "I've been following you." I'm like, "I've been following you." I'm like, "I've been following you." I'm like, "Oh, wow." And and I said, "Yo, like, "Oh, wow." And and I said, "Yo, like, "Oh, wow." And and I said, "Yo, Bishop, can I show you something?" And I Bishop, can I show you something?" And I Bishop, can I show you something?" And I showed him the video showed him the video showed him the video >> and he looked at me and he just stood >> and he looked at me and he just stood >> and he looked at me and he just stood back. He said, "I always wondered what back. He said, "I always wondered what back. He said, "I always wondered what happened to you." happened to you." happened to you." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Because again, we didn't know each >> Because again, we didn't know each >> Because again, we didn't know each other, other, other, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> And he said, "You're the man behind Jess >> And he said, "You're the man behind Jess >> And he said, "You're the man behind Jess Hill, bro." I said, "Yes, sir." He said, Hill, bro." I said, "Yes, sir." He said, Hill, bro." I said, "Yes, sir." He said, "You created all of this in since 2018." "You created all of this in since 2018." "You created all of this in since 2018." I said, "Yes, sir." I said, "Yes, sir." I said, "Yes, sir." >> And he said, "Why didn't you say >> And he said, "Why didn't you say >> And he said, "Why didn't you say nothing?" He said, "Where do you go to nothing?" He said, "Where do you go to nothing?" He said, "Where do you go to church?" I said, "I go to church here." church?" I said, "I go to church here." church?" I said, "I go to church here." >> He said, "Why are you just now saying >> He said, "Why are you just now saying >> He said, "Why are you just now saying something to me?" I said, "Bishop, I something to me?" I said, "Bishop, I something to me?" I said, "Bishop, I just just just >> I I never thought to say anything to >> I I never thought to say anything to >> I I never thought to say anything to him." Yeah.

him." Yeah. him." Yeah. >> But that is a true sign that when it's >> But that is a true sign that when it's >> But that is a true sign that when it's in God's plan and will, divine timing in God's plan and will, divine timing in God's plan and will, divine timing and divine alignment and divine alignment and divine alignment >> would do it for you. >> would do it for you. >> would do it for you. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> And ever since then, man, we we've been >> And ever since then, man, we we've been >> And ever since then, man, we we've been locked in. What's amazing and what I I locked in. What's amazing and what I I locked in. What's amazing and what I I love about your work is that you do so love about your work is that you do so love about your work is that you do so much around and you mentioned it much around and you mentioned it much around and you mentioned it earlier, community. Um much of your work earlier, community. Um much of your work earlier, community. Um much of your work is around even those who are in, you is around even those who are in, you is around even those who are in, you know, um the um under underserved know, um the um under underserved know, um the um under underserved communities, you know, the black communities, you know, the black communities, you know, the black community. But why is it important, Dr. community. But why is it important, Dr. community. But why is it important, Dr. Jay, for the church to engage in active Jay, for the church to engage in active Jay, for the church to engage in active conversations around mental health? conversations around mental health? conversations around mental health? >> Well, you know, it's important for us to >> Well, you know, it's important for us to >> Well, you know, it's important for us to to engage in conversation around mental to engage in conversation around mental to engage in conversation around mental health. For one, uh, Anthony, health. For one, uh, Anthony, health. For one, uh, Anthony, particularly the way we were created, we particularly the way we were created, we particularly the way we were created, we were created in community. were created in community. were created in community. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, when you go back to Genesis 1:25, I >> So, when you go back to Genesis 1:25, I >> So, when you go back to Genesis 1:25, I believe, uh, when the scripture talks believe, uh, when the scripture talks believe, uh, when the scripture talks about God said, "Let us about God said, "Let us about God said, "Let us >> make >> make >> make >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> We were made in community." >> We were made in community." >> We were made in community." >> Correct. >> Correct. >> Correct. >> So, if you were made in community and >> So, if you were made in community and >> So, if you were made in community and you created and shaped in community, you created and shaped in community, you created and shaped in community, therefore, community is needed to therefore, community is needed to therefore, community is needed to sustain life.

sustain life. sustain life. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, when you think about mental health, >> So, when you think about mental health, >> So, when you think about mental health, we often think about mental health we often think about mental health we often think about mental health issues, mental health disorders. But issues, mental health disorders. But issues, mental health disorders. But mental health as I like to say it's life mental health as I like to say it's life mental health as I like to say it's life in motion. in motion. in motion. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It's life. When God made us, he created >> It's life. When God made us, he created >> It's life. When God made us, he created mind, body, and spirit. So whether you mind, body, and spirit. So whether you mind, body, and spirit. So whether you feel that you have a mental health or feel that you have a mental health or feel that you have a mental health or not, you have mental health because of not, you have mental health because of not, you have mental health because of your very existence. And so for the your very existence. And so for the your very existence. And so for the church to integrate mental health within church to integrate mental health within church to integrate mental health within the conversation and and within the the conversation and and within the the conversation and and within the tracks of building disciplehip and tracks of building disciplehip and tracks of building disciplehip and building people is helping us to building people is helping us to building people is helping us to understand that the importance of understand that the importance of understand that the importance of community uh particularly when uh I community uh particularly when uh I community uh particularly when uh I think in Hebrews when it's talking about think in Hebrews when it's talking about think in Hebrews when it's talking about um I think the 10th chapter somewhere u um I think the 10th chapter somewhere u um I think the 10th chapter somewhere u when it's talking about forsake not the when it's talking about forsake not the when it's talking about forsake not the assembly of the brotherhood. assembly of the brotherhood. assembly of the brotherhood. >> Yes sir. Yes sir. >> Yes sir. Yes sir. >> Yes sir. Yes sir. >> Community. >> Community. >> Community. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> And then it talk about exhorting one >> And then it talk about exhorting one >> And then it talk about exhorting one another. That word exhorting means to another. That word exhorting means to another. That word exhorting means to encourage. encourage. encourage. >> Yeah. Our mental health could be better >> Yeah. Our mental health could be better >> Yeah. Our mental health could be better as believers if we understand the power as believers if we understand the power as believers if we understand the power and the necessity of having community. and the necessity of having community. and the necessity of having community. We only have community just on Sunday We only have community just on Sunday We only have community just on Sunday and then maybe a few people come and then maybe a few people come and then maybe a few people come >> um >> um >> um >> to Bible class. But over the years of >> to Bible class. But over the years of >> to Bible class. But over the years of working with so many believers uh from working with so many believers uh from working with so many believers uh from the clinical side, most of the people the clinical side, most of the people the clinical side, most of the people that had extreme mental health issues that had extreme mental health issues that had extreme mental health issues was often associated with isolation and was often associated with isolation and was often associated with isolation and loneliness.

loneliness. loneliness. >> Yeah. and and what what I've what I've >> Yeah. and and what what I've what I've >> Yeah. and and what what I've what I've come to realize even you know serving come to realize even you know serving come to realize even you know serving our online community um and even in our online community um and even in our online community um and even in person as well that there are so many of person as well that there are so many of person as well that there are so many of our our members who feel you know alone our our members who feel you know alone our our members who feel you know alone and then you have some who would say you and then you have some who would say you and then you have some who would say you know I would rather be alone because know I would rather be alone because know I would rather be alone because when I trusted people or when I tried when I trusted people or when I tried when I trusted people or when I tried people to try to build community things people to try to build community things people to try to build community things didn't necessarily work out how I didn't necessarily work out how I didn't necessarily work out how I expected why is it important for someone expected why is it important for someone expected why is it important for someone not to be isolated though like as a not to be isolated though like as a not to be isolated though like as a believer believer believer >> for one isolation is not good for your >> for one isolation is not good for your >> for one isolation is not good for your brain so if you were confined confined brain so if you were confined confined brain so if you were confined confined to a room for 23 hours. Studies shows to a room for 23 hours. Studies shows to a room for 23 hours. Studies shows that your brain would shrink um if you that your brain would shrink um if you that your brain would shrink um if you are held in solitary confinement. are held in solitary confinement. are held in solitary confinement. >> Uh secondly, your nervous system will >> Uh secondly, your nervous system will >> Uh secondly, your nervous system will begin to um deflate in some ways. Uh we begin to um deflate in some ways. Uh we begin to um deflate in some ways. Uh we need uh community because neurologically need uh community because neurologically need uh community because neurologically your body sustains itself. Your cortisol your body sustains itself. Your cortisol your body sustains itself. Your cortisol levels rises when you're isolated levels rises when you're isolated levels rises when you're isolated because now your body feels a sense of because now your body feels a sense of because now your body feels a sense of rejection. U it doesn't feels a sense of rejection. U it doesn't feels a sense of rejection. U it doesn't feels a sense of belonging. So you're not getting that belonging. So you're not getting that belonging. So you're not getting that oxytocin. you're not getting that oxytocin. you're not getting that oxytocin. you're not getting that serotonin, you're not getting what your serotonin, you're not getting what your serotonin, you're not getting what your body needs in order to feel like you body needs in order to feel like you body needs in order to feel like you belong in a space. And and then belong in a space. And and then belong in a space. And and then particularly uh the way your brain particularly uh the way your brain particularly uh the way your brain function, right? So, uh that was function, right? So, uh that was function, right? So, uh that was something that I was talking about today something that I was talking about today something that I was talking about today um um um >> with athletes, right? Cuz a lot of my >> with athletes, right? Cuz a lot of my >> with athletes, right? Cuz a lot of my work, you know, when we're studying the work, you know, when we're studying the work, you know, when we're studying the brain and when we're unpacking what brain and when we're unpacking what brain and when we're unpacking what happens physiologically, when you think happens physiologically, when you think happens physiologically, when you think about the hippo campus and so all of my about the hippo campus and so all of my about the hippo campus and so all of my nerds and geek people that love to study nerds and geek people that love to study nerds and geek people that love to study the brain, you guys would appreciate the brain, you guys would appreciate the brain, you guys would appreciate this. So, we all know what the frontal this. So, we all know what the frontal this. So, we all know what the frontal lobe is, right? The front frontal lobe

lobe is, right? The front frontal lobe lobe is, right? The front frontal lobe is, you know, where you make your is, you know, where you make your is, you know, where you make your decisions and all those things. We all decisions and all those things. We all decisions and all those things. We all talk about how most young people don't talk about how most young people don't talk about how most young people don't know how to make great decisions because know how to make great decisions because know how to make great decisions because your frontal lobe isn't finished your frontal lobe isn't finished your frontal lobe isn't finished developing until age 25. Now, there's developing until age 25. Now, there's developing until age 25. Now, there's also a part called the temporal lobe, also a part called the temporal lobe, also a part called the temporal lobe, which is your hippocampus. So, the which is your hippocampus. So, the which is your hippocampus. So, the function of that is your short and function of that is your short and function of that is your short and long-term memory. Um, it's how you long-term memory. Um, it's how you long-term memory. Um, it's how you learn. And then the other part of that learn. And then the other part of that learn. And then the other part of that is your spatial memory is how you memor is your spatial memory is how you memor is your spatial memory is how you memor how you hold your memories. The space how you hold your memories. The space how you hold your memories. The space that you hold it in. So remembering a that you hold it in. So remembering a that you hold it in. So remembering a scent uh remembering something that scent uh remembering something that scent uh remembering something that happened as a child or you seeing a happened as a child or you seeing a happened as a child or you seeing a cartoon and all of a sudden you go back cartoon and all of a sudden you go back cartoon and all of a sudden you go back into that space and go back into that into that space and go back into that into that space and go back into that moment. moment. moment. >> Here is why this is important. Yeah. >> Here is why this is important. Yeah. >> Here is why this is important. Yeah. >> When we don't have community, when we >> When we don't have community, when we >> When we don't have community, when we don't have belonging, when we don't don't have belonging, when we don't don't have belonging, when we don't socialize, when we don't engage, the socialize, when we don't engage, the socialize, when we don't engage, the function of uh uh of that part of your function of uh uh of that part of your function of uh uh of that part of your brain begins to diminish. brain begins to diminish. brain begins to diminish. >> Wow, man. Wow. >> Wow, man. Wow. >> Wow, man. Wow. >> So, when that part begins to diminish, >> So, when that part begins to diminish, >> So, when that part begins to diminish, your brain volume begins to be reduced.

your brain volume begins to be reduced. your brain volume begins to be reduced. >> So, if it's being reduced, the function >> So, if it's being reduced, the function >> So, if it's being reduced, the function of you learning new information becomes of you learning new information becomes of you learning new information becomes difficult. difficult. difficult. >> Mhm. This is why if you talk to people >> Mhm. This is why if you talk to people >> Mhm. This is why if you talk to people who are isolated and loneliness, they who are isolated and loneliness, they who are isolated and loneliness, they don't retain information often because don't retain information often because don't retain information often because it's not being challenged. Yeah. it's not being challenged. Yeah. it's not being challenged. Yeah. >> You're not receiving that stimulation. >> You're not receiving that stimulation. >> You're not receiving that stimulation. >> Uh it's hard for you to develop new >> Uh it's hard for you to develop new >> Uh it's hard for you to develop new memories. memories. memories. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And then also it's hard for you to >> And then also it's hard for you to >> And then also it's hard for you to actually feel grounded in spaces because actually feel grounded in spaces because actually feel grounded in spaces because of I'm not going to call it trauma, but of I'm not going to call it trauma, but of I'm not going to call it trauma, but because of an experience. Because because of an experience. Because because of an experience. Because sometimes, you know, you could have sometimes, you know, you could have sometimes, you know, you could have experienced somebody that you open up experienced somebody that you open up experienced somebody that you open up yourself and it didn't work out. yourself and it didn't work out. yourself and it didn't work out. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But what I often tell people is that the >> But what I often tell people is that the >> But what I often tell people is that the way the brain works and the way way the brain works and the way way the brain works and the way neuroplasticity work is your brain would neuroplasticity work is your brain would neuroplasticity work is your brain would in not only will take in new in not only will take in new in not only will take in new information, but it can process new information, but it can process new information, but it can process new information to produce a new uh outcome information to produce a new uh outcome information to produce a new uh outcome if you allow it. But most of us, if you allow it. But most of us, if you allow it. But most of us, particularly, you hear this when people particularly, you hear this when people particularly, you hear this when people who have been hurt in the church. who have been hurt in the church. who have been hurt in the church. >> Yeah. I don't want nothing to do with >> Yeah. I don't want nothing to do with >> Yeah. I don't want nothing to do with the church.

the church. the church. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> People are people, >> People are people, >> People are people, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> God is God. >> God is God. >> God is God. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> But oftentimes we have this expectation >> But oftentimes we have this expectation >> But oftentimes we have this expectation and and trying to uh uh put humans in and and trying to uh uh put humans in and and trying to uh uh put humans in the place of God. And yes, it would be the place of God. And yes, it would be the place of God. And yes, it would be great to have a great experience in great to have a great experience in great to have a great experience in church. church. church. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But if we're being realistic, >> But if we're being realistic, >> But if we're being realistic, >> just think of the church as a mental >> just think of the church as a mental >> just think of the church as a mental institution, institution, institution, >> man. >> man. >> man. >> Wow. How many people are actually taking >> Wow. How many people are actually taking >> Wow. How many people are actually taking their meds? their meds? their meds? >> Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. >> Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. >> Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. That's real. That's real. That's >> Yeah. That's real. That's real. That's >> Yeah. That's real. That's real. That's real. real. real. >> So, you have people that know that they >> So, you have people that know that they >> So, you have people that know that they need their meds in mental inst mental need their meds in mental inst mental need their meds in mental inst mental institution that won't take them. institution that won't take them. institution that won't take them. They'll throw them away. They spit it They'll throw them away. They spit it They'll throw them away. They spit it out of those things. Or you have people out of those things. Or you have people out of those things. Or you have people >> uh that probably need more care and they >> uh that probably need more care and they >> uh that probably need more care and they fight. They resist. It's no different in fight. They resist. It's no different in fight. They resist. It's no different in the church, the church, the church, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> Everybody ain't reading their Bible. >> Everybody ain't reading their Bible. >> Everybody ain't reading their Bible. >> Correct. >> Correct. >> Correct. >> Correct. >> Correct. >> Correct. >> Everybody's not living according to >> Everybody's not living according to >> Everybody's not living according to God's word, God's word, God's word, >> right?

>> right? >> right? >> You know, they may be wearing the suits >> You know, they may be wearing the suits >> You know, they may be wearing the suits and wearing the dresses. So, this allows and wearing the dresses. So, this allows and wearing the dresses. So, this allows you to set healthy expectations. you to set healthy expectations. you to set healthy expectations. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Anthony, I hope that you would be a man >> Anthony, I hope that you would be a man >> Anthony, I hope that you would be a man of God, of God, of God, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> However, if you fall short, >> However, if you fall short, >> However, if you fall short, >> I am not setting myself up for >> I am not setting myself up for >> I am not setting myself up for disappointment. I'm setting my brain to disappointment. I'm setting my brain to disappointment. I'm setting my brain to process that, hey, he's a human being on process that, hey, he's a human being on process that, hey, he's a human being on a journey, a journey, a journey, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> Trying to get to God just like I am, >> Trying to get to God just like I am, >> Trying to get to God just like I am, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> And if we begin to reframe our brain to >> And if we begin to reframe our brain to >> And if we begin to reframe our brain to think in that way, this allows me to think in that way, this allows me to think in that way, this allows me to say, you know what, what the brother say, you know what, what the brother say, you know what, what the brother did, he fell short. It did hurt me. did, he fell short. It did hurt me. did, he fell short. It did hurt me. However, I'm not closing myself off from However, I'm not closing myself off from However, I'm not closing myself off from never being open again. never being open again. never being open again. >> Right? >> Right? >> Right? >> And I think we need to become more open >> And I think we need to become more open >> And I think we need to become more open in the space of church. I think this in the space of church. I think this in the space of church. I think this will change how we interact in will change how we interact in will change how we interact in relationships. relationships. relationships. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Because I meet a lot of church people, >> Because I meet a lot of church people, >> Because I meet a lot of church people, bro, that do not welcome love. bro, that do not welcome love. bro, that do not welcome love. >> And we're supposed to >> And we're supposed to >> And we're supposed to >> and I'm not talking about romantic love. >> and I'm not talking about romantic love. >> and I'm not talking about romantic love. They don't welcome love even from a They don't welcome love even from a They don't welcome love even from a agape perspective. agape perspective. agape perspective. >> Because if you don't think that you're >> Because if you don't think that you're >> Because if you don't think that you're worthy, you don't move in worthiness.

worthy, you don't move in worthiness. worthy, you don't move in worthiness. >> Right. Wow. Right. >> Right. Wow. Right. >> Right. Wow. Right. >> Right. Right. And you know what's crazy >> Right. Right. And you know what's crazy >> Right. Right. And you know what's crazy about that, Dr. J is that there are so about that, Dr. J is that there are so about that, Dr. J is that there are so many who come to church who are battling many who come to church who are battling many who come to church who are battling so many different things. One of the so many different things. One of the so many different things. One of the things that I learned I learned from my things that I learned I learned from my things that I learned I learned from my dad growing up is that uh there's a dad growing up is that uh there's a dad growing up is that uh there's a whole life a whole world that happens whole life a whole world that happens whole life a whole world that happens before you even walk through the doors before you even walk through the doors before you even walk through the doors of the church. of the church. of the church. We have many now who are almost ashamed We have many now who are almost ashamed We have many now who are almost ashamed to say I'm not okay. to say I'm not okay. to say I'm not okay. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Whether that's from judgment past >> Whether that's from judgment past >> Whether that's from judgment past judgment. You mentioned church hurts judgment. You mentioned church hurts judgment. You mentioned church hurts earlier. How can someone move past that earlier. How can someone move past that earlier. How can someone move past that though? Moving past that feeling of I though? Moving past that feeling of I though? Moving past that feeling of I can't even tell you that one of I never can't even tell you that one of I never can't even tell you that one of I never forget somebody preached a message one forget somebody preached a message one forget somebody preached a message one time and the question that they asked time and the question that they asked time and the question that they asked was how are you? And they said a lot of was how are you? And they said a lot of was how are you? And they said a lot of people who respond to that are lying people who respond to that are lying people who respond to that are lying right in church when they say I'm good. right in church when they say I'm good. right in church when they say I'm good. >> Yeah. Well, we we we we don't we feel >> Yeah. Well, we we we we don't we feel >> Yeah. Well, we we we we don't we feel like we're going to embarrass God if we like we're going to embarrass God if we like we're going to embarrass God if we say we're not good. And let me look in say we're not good. And let me look in say we're not good. And let me look in the camera and just say that if you say the camera and just say that if you say the camera and just say that if you say you're not good and if you're not doing you're not good and if you're not doing you're not good and if you're not doing well, that is not an indictment on God's well, that is not an indictment on God's well, that is not an indictment on God's character.

character. character. >> Come on. Come on. >> Come on. Come on. >> Come on. Come on. >> God in fact welcomes >> God in fact welcomes >> God in fact welcomes your humanity. He made you. your humanity. He made you. your humanity. He made you. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> He has an understanding that you are not >> He has an understanding that you are not >> He has an understanding that you are not like his son. like his son. like his son. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Jesus knew no fault, but Jesus knew >> Jesus knew no fault, but Jesus knew >> Jesus knew no fault, but Jesus knew emotions. emotions. emotions. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's good. good. good. >> And he did not run from his emotion. In >> And he did not run from his emotion. In >> And he did not run from his emotion. In fact, he ran to them. Right. When we fact, he ran to them. Right. When we fact, he ran to them. Right. When we think about the shortest verse, right, think about the shortest verse, right, think about the shortest verse, right, in the Bible, we often talk about Jesus in the Bible, we often talk about Jesus in the Bible, we often talk about Jesus as well. as well. as well. >> That is so powerful because in that >> That is so powerful because in that >> That is so powerful because in that moment, he allowed himself to not live moment, he allowed himself to not live moment, he allowed himself to not live in his divin his divinity, but he in his divin his divinity, but he in his divin his divinity, but he allowed himself to live in his his allowed himself to live in his his allowed himself to live in his his humanity to let me allow myself to go humanity to let me allow myself to go humanity to let me allow myself to go through this human process and his human through this human process and his human through this human process and his human function function function >> of allowing my body >> of allowing my body >> of allowing my body >> to do what it naturally will do when I'm >> to do what it naturally will do when I'm >> to do what it naturally will do when I'm in pain. M in pain. M in pain. M >> and just think how many people in church >> and just think how many people in church >> and just think how many people in church are hurting and need to cry, need to are hurting and need to cry, need to are hurting and need to cry, need to weep, need to release. Crying is a form weep, need to release. Crying is a form weep, need to release. Crying is a form of release. Allowing your tear ducts to of release. Allowing your tear ducts to of release. Allowing your tear ducts to actually be activated to say, "Let me actually be activated to say, "Let me actually be activated to say, "Let me cry this out."

cry this out." cry this out." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Rather than saying, "I'm good because I >> Rather than saying, "I'm good because I >> Rather than saying, "I'm good because I don't want God to think I'm not grateful don't want God to think I'm not grateful don't want God to think I'm not grateful or he's not a good God because I'm or he's not a good God because I'm or he's not a good God because I'm actually in my life experiencing life as actually in my life experiencing life as actually in my life experiencing life as it is in real time. it is in real time. it is in real time. Wow man. You I want you to expand a Wow man. You I want you to expand a Wow man. You I want you to expand a little bit on you. You you mentioned it little bit on you. You you mentioned it little bit on you. You you mentioned it how sometimes we feel that if we are how sometimes we feel that if we are how sometimes we feel that if we are emotional or if we are reacting to emotional or if we are reacting to emotional or if we are reacting to something we really feel that we are something we really feel that we are something we really feel that we are going to be like an embarrassment to going to be like an embarrassment to going to be like an embarrassment to God. Yeah. Like expand on that some more God. Yeah. Like expand on that some more God. Yeah. Like expand on that some more man because I think that's what a lot of man because I think that's what a lot of man because I think that's what a lot of us are. us are. us are. >> And and and and here's the other part >> And and and and here's the other part >> And and and and here's the other part right if you think about this be anger right if you think about this be anger right if you think about this be anger and sin not. and sin not. and sin not. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That is permission. Most of the people that come in therapy, Most of the people that come in therapy, I spend so much time trying to get them I spend so much time trying to get them I spend so much time trying to get them to give themselves permission to feel. to give themselves permission to feel. to give themselves permission to feel. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Permission to emote. >> Permission to emote. >> Permission to emote. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Permission to actually say this hurt, >> Permission to actually say this hurt, >> Permission to actually say this hurt, >> man. >> man. >> man. >> And you see this a lot, right? Um my my >> And you see this a lot, right? Um my my >> And you see this a lot, right? Um my my father's a pastor and and I often used father's a pastor and and I often used father's a pastor and and I often used to see uh when people died and they're to see uh when people died and they're to see uh when people died and they're eulogizing and you would hear somebody eulogizing and you would hear somebody eulogizing and you would hear somebody tell the family member, "Be strong." And tell the family member, "Be strong." And tell the family member, "Be strong." And you would hear someone say uh to the you would hear someone say uh to the you would hear someone say uh to the family member to be absent from the body family member to be absent from the body family member to be absent from the body means to be present from the Lord. Right means to be present from the Lord. Right means to be present from the Lord. Right now, good brother, good, good man, now, good brother, good, good man, now, good brother, good, good man, they're dead.

they're dead. they're dead. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> I don't want to hear this scripture >> I don't want to hear this scripture >> I don't want to hear this scripture being absent because now we call this a being absent because now we call this a being absent because now we call this a religious bypassing. I don't need a religious bypassing. I don't need a religious bypassing. I don't need a scripture. scripture. scripture. >> I don't need to hear a sermon. >> I don't need to hear a sermon. >> I don't need to hear a sermon. >> In this moment, I want to fall apart >> In this moment, I want to fall apart >> In this moment, I want to fall apart >> because my mother, my brother, my father >> because my mother, my brother, my father >> because my mother, my brother, my father or sister is gone. I often tell people or sister is gone. I often tell people or sister is gone. I often tell people like I've been in churches where I like I've been in churches where I like I've been in churches where I literally have said uh I was at a literally have said uh I was at a literally have said uh I was at a funeral and I literally said, "Can we funeral and I literally said, "Can we funeral and I literally said, "Can we please not say that today?" please not say that today?" please not say that today?" >> And the pastor was like, "Are you >> And the pastor was like, "Are you >> And the pastor was like, "Are you serious?" I said, "Yeah, I'm very serious?" I said, "Yeah, I'm very serious?" I said, "Yeah, I'm very serious." Yeah. serious." Yeah. serious." Yeah. >> Because you're training people to not >> Because you're training people to not >> Because you're training people to not feel. feel. feel. >> Right. Right. >> Right. Right. >> Right. Right. >> I lost a loved one. >> I lost a loved one. >> I lost a loved one. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> So if I want to be mad at God, I have >> So if I want to be mad at God, I have >> So if I want to be mad at God, I have the right to be mad at God. the right to be mad at God. the right to be mad at God. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Now, he just told me to be angry, but he >> Now, he just told me to be angry, but he >> Now, he just told me to be angry, but he said, "Sin not said, "Sin not said, "Sin not >> sin not." That's correct. >> sin not." That's correct. >> sin not." That's correct. >> That's correct. So, he just gave me >> That's correct. So, he just gave me >> That's correct. So, he just gave me permission to say, "God, why did they permission to say, "God, why did they permission to say, "God, why did they have to die?" have to die?" have to die?" >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Why did I have to get a divorce? >> Why did I have to get a divorce? >> Why did I have to get a divorce? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Why did my son has to has to go to jail? >> Why did my son has to has to go to jail? >> Why did my son has to has to go to jail? Like, why? It's okay for us to ask these Like, why? It's okay for us to ask these Like, why? It's okay for us to ask these questions. When you begin asking these questions. When you begin asking these questions. When you begin asking these questions again, you're allowing questions again, you're allowing questions again, you're allowing yourself to be human.

yourself to be human. yourself to be human. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And too many of us, we're trying to be >> And too many of us, we're trying to be >> And too many of us, we're trying to be spiritual beings, and that's not what spiritual beings, and that's not what spiritual beings, and that's not what God has called us to be. Mhm. God has called us to be. Mhm. God has called us to be. Mhm. >> Right now there is a part of us that >> Right now there is a part of us that >> Right now there is a part of us that supernaturally can do great feats with supernaturally can do great feats with supernaturally can do great feats with the power of God. the power of God. the power of God. >> Absolutely. Absolutely. >> Absolutely. Absolutely. >> Absolutely. Absolutely. >> But you live daytoday in your humanity, >> But you live daytoday in your humanity, >> But you live daytoday in your humanity, but through the power of God, you can but through the power of God, you can but through the power of God, you can live a god life and a Christlike and live a god life and a Christlike and live a god life and a Christlike and have that mindset that the scripture have that mindset that the scripture have that mindset that the scripture talk about having this mind like Christ, talk about having this mind like Christ, talk about having this mind like Christ, which is why we need the word. which is why we need the word. which is why we need the word. >> Correct. through the word I continue to >> Correct. through the word I continue to >> Correct. through the word I continue to bring my humanity, bring my problems, bring my humanity, bring my problems, bring my humanity, bring my problems, but also understand what his word says. but also understand what his word says. but also understand what his word says. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But I don't have to uh dishonor >> But I don't have to uh dishonor >> But I don't have to uh dishonor my life experiences. my life experiences. my life experiences. >> Right. Right. Right. >> Right. Right. Right. >> Right. Right. Right. >> Because he came to heal the >> Because he came to heal the >> Because he came to heal the brokenhearted. brokenhearted. brokenhearted. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> So I can give this word and also go sit >> So I can give this word and also go sit >> So I can give this word and also go sit on the couch and say to my therapist, on the couch and say to my therapist, on the couch and say to my therapist, listen, I want to hurt myself right now listen, I want to hurt myself right now listen, I want to hurt myself right now >> and I'm filled with the Holy Spirit. >> and I'm filled with the Holy Spirit. >> and I'm filled with the Holy Spirit. Mhm. And that was the question that that Mhm. And that was the question that that Mhm. And that was the question that that that I feel that so many of us really that I feel that so many of us really that I feel that so many of us really want to ask is can I be full of full of want to ask is can I be full of full of want to ask is can I be full of full of the spirit and not be okay?

the spirit and not be okay? the spirit and not be okay? >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That being full of the Holy Spirit >> That being full of the Holy Spirit >> That being full of the Holy Spirit doesn't make you void of pain. doesn't make you void of pain. doesn't make you void of pain. >> Right. Wow. >> Right. Wow. >> Right. Wow. >> That's good. >> That's good. >> That's good. >> Like it it doesn't it doesn't make you, >> Like it it doesn't it doesn't make you, >> Like it it doesn't it doesn't make you, you know, uh uh exempt from feeling the you know, uh uh exempt from feeling the you know, uh uh exempt from feeling the the many perils that life throws at you the many perils that life throws at you the many perils that life throws at you and the es or flows of it. Yeah. Right. and the es or flows of it. Yeah. Right. and the es or flows of it. Yeah. Right. And and I think what happens is And and I think what happens is And and I think what happens is you hear a message preached about a God you hear a message preached about a God you hear a message preached about a God who's going to do it all, but you live a who's going to do it all, but you live a who's going to do it all, but you live a life where it's like, I don't know if he life where it's like, I don't know if he life where it's like, I don't know if he will, will, will, >> man. Yeah. And and you know what? And it >> man. Yeah. And and you know what? And it >> man. Yeah. And and you know what? And it puts us almost in a place puts us almost in a place puts us almost in a place of of avoidance and it almost puts us at of of avoidance and it almost puts us at of of avoidance and it almost puts us at at odds with God. at odds with God. at odds with God. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And what I've learned, Anthony, >> Yeah. And what I've learned, Anthony, >> Yeah. And what I've learned, Anthony, and to those who like, I've learned to and to those who like, I've learned to and to those who like, I've learned to be truly honest with God. be truly honest with God. be truly honest with God. >> The scripture says, um, >> The scripture says, um, >> The scripture says, um, >> knowing the truth, and the truth shall >> knowing the truth, and the truth shall >> knowing the truth, and the truth shall set you free. set you free. set you free. >> You cannot become free until I'm not >> You cannot become free until I'm not >> You cannot become free until I'm not talking about the truth of the word. I'm talking about the truth of the word. I'm talking about the truth of the word. I'm talking about your truth. What is your talking about your truth. What is your talking about your truth. What is your truth?

truth? truth? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and I and I >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and I and I >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and I and I want to expand on that a little bit want to expand on that a little bit want to expand on that a little bit because there are many who may be because there are many who may be because there are many who may be looking right now. And of course, you looking right now. And of course, you looking right now. And of course, you all, we we have resources for you. will all, we we have resources for you. will all, we we have resources for you. will drop our counseling center uh drop our counseling center uh drop our counseling center uh information in the chat because I know information in the chat because I know information in the chat because I know some of you all may want to continue some of you all may want to continue some of you all may want to continue this uh conversation. this uh conversation. this uh conversation. When someone is in search of their When someone is in search of their When someone is in search of their truth, truth, truth, I believe that it will come with some I believe that it will come with some I believe that it will come with some realities realities realities >> that that you will have to prepare >> that that you will have to prepare >> that that you will have to prepare yourself to really really face. yourself to really really face. yourself to really really face. >> Absolutely. Uh for one is acceptance. >> Absolutely. Uh for one is acceptance. >> Absolutely. Uh for one is acceptance. >> Yeah. Again, >> Yeah. Again, >> Yeah. Again, we feel if I accept this, I take on. we feel if I accept this, I take on. we feel if I accept this, I take on. Just because you accept it doesn't mean Just because you accept it doesn't mean Just because you accept it doesn't mean that you have to take on. And what I that you have to take on. And what I that you have to take on. And what I mean is that we feel like, well, if I mean is that we feel like, well, if I mean is that we feel like, well, if I acknowledge this, this that means that acknowledge this, this that means that acknowledge this, this that means that I'm this. No, I'm this. No, I'm this. No, >> the acknowledgement is that it's real. >> the acknowledgement is that it's real. >> the acknowledgement is that it's real. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You know what I'm saying? It's real. >> You know what I'm saying? It's real. >> You know what I'm saying? It's real. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I mean, you think about this, man. I I I >> I mean, you think about this, man. I I I >> I mean, you think about this, man. I I I never forget never forget never forget um working with with with the individual um working with with with the individual um working with with with the individual that brought in some scriptures and you that brought in some scriptures and you that brought in some scriptures and you know they're they're navigating a know they're they're navigating a know they're they're navigating a divorce and they they knew they needed divorce and they they knew they needed divorce and they they knew they needed to walk away from the the marriage.

to walk away from the the marriage. to walk away from the the marriage. However, they were bound by God doesn't However, they were bound by God doesn't However, they were bound by God doesn't like divorce. >> Now, here's the part that I want to >> Now, here's the part that I want to unpack. Just because he doesn't like it unpack. Just because he doesn't like it unpack. Just because he doesn't like it doesn't mean that he's going to not doesn't mean that he's going to not doesn't mean that he's going to not approve of it. approve of it. approve of it. >> Got you. >> Got you. >> Got you. >> Because truth be told, he divorced >> Because truth be told, he divorced >> Because truth be told, he divorced Israel. Israel. Israel. >> Why did he divorce Israel? Because they >> Why did he divorce Israel? Because they >> Why did he divorce Israel? Because they did not hold up their end of the did not hold up their end of the did not hold up their end of the bargain. bargain. bargain. >> Correct. >> Correct. >> Correct. >> Contractual >> Contractual >> Contractual >> agreement. >> agreement. >> agreement. >> They broke that covenant. >> They broke that covenant. >> They broke that covenant. >> That was a broken covenant. Yeah. Now, >> That was a broken covenant. Yeah. Now, >> That was a broken covenant. Yeah. Now, >> and I say this in churches, I'm >> and I say this in churches, I'm >> and I say this in churches, I'm pro-healthy. pro-healthy. pro-healthy. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> If it's healthy, yes. >> If it's healthy, yes. >> If it's healthy, yes. >> But if it's unhealthy, no. >> But if it's unhealthy, no. >> But if it's unhealthy, no. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> This I'm not telling you to stay. I'm >> This I'm not telling you to stay. I'm >> This I'm not telling you to stay. I'm not telling you to leave. I'm telling not telling you to leave. I'm telling not telling you to leave. I'm telling you to choose healthy. you to choose healthy. you to choose healthy. >> Right? >> Right? >> Right? >> Because I don't think >> Because I don't think >> Because I don't think >> God meant for anybody to be in a >> God meant for anybody to be in a >> God meant for anybody to be in a unhealthy relationship, unhealthy unhealthy relationship, unhealthy unhealthy relationship, unhealthy situation that is situation that is situation that is >> that is not good for your mental health. >> that is not good for your mental health. >> that is not good for your mental health. Now, Now, Now, >> you can choose to stay there and hold on >> you can choose to stay there and hold on >> you can choose to stay there and hold on to the scripture and that's yours to the scripture and that's yours to the scripture and that's yours because you know something I learned because you know something I learned because you know something I learned that God does, he honors choice.

that God does, he honors choice. that God does, he honors choice. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> He honors choice. Mhm. >> He honors choice. Mhm. >> He honors choice. Mhm. >> And we often feel like there's always >> And we often feel like there's always >> And we often feel like there's always going to be some type of resistance with going to be some type of resistance with going to be some type of resistance with any choice because even if you don't any choice because even if you don't any choice because even if you don't choose, you're still making a decision. choose, you're still making a decision. choose, you're still making a decision. >> Right. Right, man. >> Right. Right, man. >> Right. Right, man. >> So if you choose to stay, well, God said >> So if you choose to stay, well, God said >> So if you choose to stay, well, God said no. Again, and I'm not saying that God no. Again, and I'm not saying that God no. Again, and I'm not saying that God don't speak, but sometime God is looking don't speak, but sometime God is looking don't speak, but sometime God is looking for us to make the decision. for us to make the decision. for us to make the decision. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> We have to begin making decision because >> We have to begin making decision because >> We have to begin making decision because we'll make a we'll make a decision and we'll make a we'll make a decision and we'll make a we'll make a decision and say it's God. And when it doesn't turn say it's God. And when it doesn't turn say it's God. And when it doesn't turn out, well, maybe God didn't say no. You out, well, maybe God didn't say no. You out, well, maybe God didn't say no. You have to choose. have to choose. have to choose. >> You got to choose. >> You got to choose. >> You got to choose. >> You have to choose. And if you notice >> You have to choose. And if you notice >> You have to choose. And if you notice this, there were many miracles that this, there were many miracles that this, there were many miracles that Jesus did where he asked them Jesus did where he asked them Jesus did where he asked them >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> a question. >> a question. >> a question. Will thy be made up? Will thy be made up? Will thy be made up? >> Yes, sir. >> Yes, sir. >> Yes, sir. >> Wow, man. >> Wow, man. >> Wow, man. >> Get up. Statement. You I'm not picking >> Get up. Statement. You I'm not picking >> Get up. Statement. You I'm not picking you up, sir. you up, sir. you up, sir. >> You got to get up. You have to choose. >> You got to get up. You have to choose. >> You got to get up. You have to choose. So, I I'm I'm I'm sort of So, I I'm I'm I'm sort of So, I I'm I'm I'm sort of contextualizing this in a way so contextualizing this in a way so contextualizing this in a way so individuals can feel empowered.

individuals can feel empowered. individuals can feel empowered. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> That I can trust God and I can also make >> That I can trust God and I can also make >> That I can trust God and I can also make a sound decision. Most believers don't a sound decision. Most believers don't a sound decision. Most believers don't believe that they're good decision believe that they're good decision believe that they're good decision makers. makers. makers. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> So, we place so much on God. And God is >> So, we place so much on God. And God is >> So, we place so much on God. And God is saying if you believe and trust in me saying if you believe and trust in me saying if you believe and trust in me that when I made you in my image, I made that when I made you in my image, I made that when I made you in my image, I made you in community, you are all in one, you in community, you are all in one, you in community, you are all in one, you ma'am or sir, you have the power. you ma'am or sir, you have the power. you ma'am or sir, you have the power. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> To make a decision. >> To make a decision. >> To make a decision. >> Yeah. And even if the decision does not >> Yeah. And even if the decision does not >> Yeah. And even if the decision does not turn out how, it's okay because Romans turn out how, it's okay because Romans turn out how, it's okay because Romans 8:28 says, "All things work together." 8:28 says, "All things work together." 8:28 says, "All things work together." So again, when you think about this So again, when you think about this So again, when you think about this Bible, man, it is a mental health book Bible, man, it is a mental health book Bible, man, it is a mental health book that is unpacking life. that is unpacking life. that is unpacking life. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> So when you begin to look at it from a >> So when you begin to look at it from a >> So when you begin to look at it from a psychoanalytical lens and and and what I psychoanalytical lens and and and what I psychoanalytical lens and and and what I love to do is to really think about it love to do is to really think about it love to do is to really think about it because it's actually for any great because it's actually for any great because it's actually for any great athlete athlete athlete >> to have a great work ethic, >> to have a great work ethic, >> to have a great work ethic, >> right? If you're going to be great at >> right? If you're going to be great at >> right? If you're going to be great at life and if you're going to be great at life and if you're going to be great at life and if you're going to be great at following God, you have to understand following God, you have to understand following God, you have to understand how he pairs with your humanity.

how he pairs with your humanity. how he pairs with your humanity. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But our problem is is particularly in >> But our problem is is particularly in >> But our problem is is particularly in churches is we're so caught up in the churches is we're so caught up in the churches is we're so caught up in the divinity of our pastors. divinity of our pastors. divinity of our pastors. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> So when we see their humanity, >> So when we see their humanity, >> So when we see their humanity, >> I can't believe pastor did that. >> I can't believe pastor did that. >> I can't believe pastor did that. >> I can't believe it. >> I can't believe it. >> I can't believe it. >> I can't believe he's going through that. >> I can't believe he's going through that. >> I can't believe he's going through that. >> And when we understand that your >> And when we understand that your >> And when we understand that your humanity just means that there are humanity just means that there are humanity just means that there are physical limitations that even you physical limitations that even you physical limitations that even you yourself yourself yourself >> Yeah. may have to rely on a therapist, >> Yeah. may have to rely on a therapist, >> Yeah. may have to rely on a therapist, >> may have to rely on a coach, a counselor >> may have to rely on a coach, a counselor >> may have to rely on a coach, a counselor or someone. And also what we know the or someone. And also what we know the or someone. And also what we know the scripture says for many fail scripture says for many fail scripture says for many fail lack of counsel plans fail lack of counsel plans fail lack of counsel plans fail >> and with many adviserss they succeed. >> and with many adviserss they succeed. >> and with many adviserss they succeed. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Having advisors, having people to help >> Having advisors, having people to help >> Having advisors, having people to help you unpack, having people uh um to be a you unpack, having people uh um to be a you unpack, having people uh um to be a sounding board is necessary. sounding board is necessary. sounding board is necessary. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> To say, you know what, let me call >> To say, you know what, let me call >> To say, you know what, let me call brother Anthony, man. brother Anthony, man. brother Anthony, man. >> Yeah. Because sometime God is showing up >> Yeah. Because sometime God is showing up >> Yeah. Because sometime God is showing up through the brother through the brother through the brother >> through the sister >> through the sister >> through the sister >> and maybe there's something that is said >> and maybe there's something that is said >> and maybe there's something that is said that gives you insight. Okay, this is that gives you insight. Okay, this is that gives you insight. Okay, this is this decision that I need to make. this decision that I need to make. this decision that I need to make. >> But what I want people to do is feel >> But what I want people to do is feel >> But what I want people to do is feel empowered with God because you know empowered with God because you know empowered with God because you know what? There are some things, brother, what? There are some things, brother, what? There are some things, brother, that God said to me, you got to make that God said to me, you got to make that God said to me, you got to make that decision.

that decision. that decision. >> Yeah, that's real. That's real. >> Yeah, that's real. That's real. >> Yeah, that's real. That's real. >> And you will have a better mental health >> And you will have a better mental health >> And you will have a better mental health if you begin to understand yourself, not if you begin to understand yourself, not if you begin to understand yourself, not just in God. Because here's the biggest just in God. Because here's the biggest just in God. Because here's the biggest issue that we have with church. We have issue that we have with church. We have issue that we have with church. We have high levels of spirituality and low high levels of spirituality and low high levels of spirituality and low levels of individuality. levels of individuality. levels of individuality. >> Come on, man. Come on, man. >> Come on, man. Come on, man. >> Come on, man. Come on, man. >> Who are you? I know you saved. I know >> Who are you? I know you saved. I know >> Who are you? I know you saved. I know you feel. But who are you? How do you you feel. But who are you? How do you you feel. But who are you? How do you self-actualize? self-actualize? self-actualize? >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> How do you self-individuate to >> How do you self-individuate to >> How do you self-individuate to understand who you are as a person? understand who you are as a person? understand who you are as a person? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Because the closer you get to God, the >> Because the closer you get to God, the >> Because the closer you get to God, the closer you should be getting to you. closer you should be getting to you. closer you should be getting to you. >> Wow, man. I've I've Whoa. So I' I've >> Wow, man. I've I've Whoa. So I' I've >> Wow, man. I've I've Whoa. So I' I've never heard that perspective ever. I' never heard that perspective ever. I' never heard that perspective ever. I' I've never heard expand on that a little I've never heard expand on that a little I've never heard expand on that a little bit bit bit >> because here's the thing. When I you >> because here's the thing. When I you >> because here's the thing. When I you know when I started really doing deep know when I started really doing deep know when I started really doing deep work, bro, work, bro, work, bro, >> and the closer I got to God, the closer >> and the closer I got to God, the closer >> and the closer I got to God, the closer I got to seeing who Jay really was. Not I got to seeing who Jay really was. Not I got to seeing who Jay really was. Not the doctor. the doctor. the doctor. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Not the therapist. >> Not the therapist. >> Not the therapist. >> Wow. man, >> Wow. man, >> Wow. man, >> not the person who can take concepts and >> not the person who can take concepts and >> not the person who can take concepts and theories and break them down and all theories and break them down and all theories and break them down and all these different things and I can sit in these different things and I can sit in these different things and I can sit in a room and talk with a bunch of a room and talk with a bunch of a room and talk with a bunch of healthcare leaders and drop all of the healthcare leaders and drop all of the healthcare leaders and drop all of the fancy words. Who was Jay?

fancy words. Who was Jay? fancy words. Who was Jay? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And one of the things that I realized is >> And one of the things that I realized is >> And one of the things that I realized is that who I was was a guy that just that who I was was a guy that just that who I was was a guy that just enjoyed freedom. enjoyed freedom. enjoyed freedom. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Now, I'mma show you how foundational >> Now, I'mma show you how foundational >> Now, I'mma show you how foundational that is. that is. that is. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Anytime I feel free, I thrive. >> Anytime I feel free, I thrive. >> Anytime I feel free, I thrive. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. That's self-individate. Yeah. That's self-individate. Yeah. That's self-individate. Yeah. >> Self-individuality. >> Self-individuality. >> Self-individuality. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Is now when I'm able to work. I knew I >> Is now when I'm able to work. I knew I >> Is now when I'm able to work. I knew I couldn't work for nobody. I knew that couldn't work for nobody. I knew that couldn't work for nobody. I knew that when I wasn't playing ball, I said I I when I wasn't playing ball, I said I I when I wasn't playing ball, I said I I this is not going to work for me cuz I this is not going to work for me cuz I this is not going to work for me cuz I knew I was creative. I knew that I had a knew I was creative. I knew that I had a knew I was creative. I knew that I had a brain. I knew how to think. brain. I knew how to think. brain. I knew how to think. >> So, if you put me in a space, I was >> So, if you put me in a space, I was >> So, if you put me in a space, I was going to take a job at um at uh uh USC. going to take a job at um at uh uh USC. going to take a job at um at uh uh USC. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. >> I was going to be the first black sports >> I was going to be the first black sports >> I was going to be the first black sports therapist for the sports team back in therapist for the sports team back in therapist for the sports team back in 2020. 2020. 2020. >> And the first thing that I asked him >> And the first thing that I asked him >> And the first thing that I asked him >> is the the lady says, "Well, well, Jay, >> is the the lady says, "Well, well, Jay, >> is the the lady says, "Well, well, Jay, what do you need?" what do you need?" what do you need?" >> I said, "Can I be me?" >> I said, "Can I be me?" >> I said, "Can I be me?" >> Yeah. Wow. Wow. >> Yeah. Wow. Wow. >> Yeah. Wow. Wow. >> And she says, "Well, Jay, what does that >> And she says, "Well, Jay, what does that >> And she says, "Well, Jay, what does that mean?" I said, "That means freedom." mean?" I said, "That means freedom." mean?" I said, "That means freedom." >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> The pay, all that stuff. I wasn't really >> The pay, all that stuff. I wasn't really >> The pay, all that stuff. I wasn't really worried about that. I was trying to worried about that. I was trying to worried about that. I was trying to figure out, can I be me? figure out, can I be me? figure out, can I be me? >> Yeah. If you can be you, you can thrive, >> Yeah. If you can be you, you can thrive, >> Yeah. If you can be you, you can thrive, >> man. >> man. >> man. >> That's at relationships. >> That's at relationships. >> That's at relationships. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> At work. >> At work. >> At work. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> In friendships. But what happens is when >> In friendships. But what happens is when >> In friendships. But what happens is when we enter into these certain uh we enter into these certain uh we enter into these certain uh compartments of life, most of us don't compartments of life, most of us don't compartments of life, most of us don't know who we are. So, you don't have a know who we are. So, you don't have a know who we are. So, you don't have a sense of identity. sense of identity. sense of identity. >> Yeah. So when the relationship fails, >> Yeah. So when the relationship fails, >> Yeah. So when the relationship fails, when the job sends you home, when when when the job sends you home, when when when the job sends you home, when when when things doesn't line up because it's when things doesn't line up because it's when things doesn't line up because it's giving you some sense of significance, giving you some sense of significance, giving you some sense of significance, you feel lost. you feel lost. you feel lost. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But if those things change >> But if those things change >> But if those things change >> in the midst of you knowing who you are, >> in the midst of you knowing who you are, >> in the midst of you knowing who you are, you can self-actualize because you you can self-actualize because you you can self-actualize because you understand not only your own potential, understand not only your own potential, understand not only your own potential, but you understand your own but you understand your own but you understand your own capabilities. capabilities. capabilities. >> Right. Right. >> Right. Right. >> Right. Right. >> So without the job, I can go do >> So without the job, I can go do >> So without the job, I can go do something else. something else. something else. >> Wow. Because if you told me, well, you >> Wow. Because if you told me, well, you >> Wow. Because if you told me, well, you can only make this amount if I had can only make this amount if I had can only make this amount if I had freedom, I know I'll double that because freedom, I know I'll double that because freedom, I know I'll double that because I can be creative.

I can be creative. I can be creative. >> So, what I'm saying is the more you get >> So, what I'm saying is the more you get >> So, what I'm saying is the more you get close to God, you learn to figure out close to God, you learn to figure out close to God, you learn to figure out what is it that you need what is it that you need what is it that you need >> to be the best version of yourselves. >> to be the best version of yourselves. >> to be the best version of yourselves. >> Yeah. And you know what's crazy is I' >> Yeah. And you know what's crazy is I' >> Yeah. And you know what's crazy is I' I've literally I've I've watched you and I've literally I've I've watched you and I've literally I've I've watched you and and your team, man, literally allow and your team, man, literally allow and your team, man, literally allow thousands of men to heal through the thousands of men to heal through the thousands of men to heal through the just uh Hillbro movement. just uh Hillbro movement. just uh Hillbro movement. >> I've also watched how you are now even >> I've also watched how you are now even >> I've also watched how you are now even expanding to something for, you know, uh expanding to something for, you know, uh expanding to something for, you know, uh for for the ladies that that's coming up for for the ladies that that's coming up for for the ladies that that's coming up and and I've watched you balance these and and I've watched you balance these and and I've watched you balance these two worlds. How important is it for us two worlds. How important is it for us two worlds. How important is it for us as a a a body of of believers and just as a a a body of of believers and just as a a a body of of believers and just the world in general to really not be the world in general to really not be the world in general to really not be ashamed to ashamed to ashamed to ensure that everyone ensure that everyone ensure that everyone >> is taken care of because I mean you >> is taken care of because I mean you >> is taken care of because I mean you could have stayed with just Hillbro could have stayed with just Hillbro could have stayed with just Hillbro >> but you really expanded to reach into a >> but you really expanded to reach into a >> but you really expanded to reach into a totally different audience man like totally different audience man like totally different audience man like >> how important is that let's just use the >> how important is that let's just use the >> how important is that let's just use the church for example like I said how how church for example like I said how how church for example like I said how how can we even as a church continue to can we even as a church continue to can we even as a church continue to broaden that reach to to everyone broaden that reach to to everyone broaden that reach to to everyone related to mental health.

related to mental health. related to mental health. >> You you have to be unconventional. >> You you have to be unconventional. >> You you have to be unconventional. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And you know, tradition is a good thing >> And you know, tradition is a good thing >> And you know, tradition is a good thing until it no longer works. until it no longer works. until it no longer works. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I think it's important for the >> And I think it's important for the >> And I think it's important for the church to understand that the world has church to understand that the world has church to understand that the world has changed, changed, changed, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> The world that many of us were raised >> The world that many of us were raised >> The world that many of us were raised and reared in no longer exists. and reared in no longer exists. and reared in no longer exists. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Understanding that you have to be >> Understanding that you have to be >> Understanding that you have to be cutting edge. Yeah. But you also have to cutting edge. Yeah. But you also have to cutting edge. Yeah. But you also have to be flexible. Um, you also have to be be flexible. Um, you also have to be be flexible. Um, you also have to be agile enough to understand that agile enough to understand that agile enough to understand that >> my my message doesn't have to change, >> my my message doesn't have to change, >> my my message doesn't have to change, but my methods may have to change. but my methods may have to change. but my methods may have to change. >> Methods may have to. Yeah. >> Methods may have to. Yeah. >> Methods may have to. Yeah. >> And when you understand that the >> And when you understand that the >> And when you understand that the methodology of how you present something methodology of how you present something methodology of how you present something may change, that allows you to discover. may change, that allows you to discover. may change, that allows you to discover. >> What allows me to do so many different >> What allows me to do so many different >> What allows me to do so many different things is I allow myself to discover. things is I allow myself to discover. things is I allow myself to discover. Like the Jess Hill sis thing started Like the Jess Hill sis thing started Like the Jess Hill sis thing started because when I got started in the mental because when I got started in the mental because when I got started in the mental health space I used to mentor girls in health space I used to mentor girls in health space I used to mentor girls in group homes. group homes. group homes. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> I created a program. It was a emotional >> I created a program. It was a emotional >> I created a program. It was a emotional recovery program for girls um that were recovery program for girls um that were recovery program for girls um that were >> high level in group homes and foster >> high level in group homes and foster >> high level in group homes and foster care. High level means that they had care. High level means that they had care. High level means that they had behavior issues. Most of them had sort behavior issues. Most of them had sort behavior issues. Most of them had sort of like a depression diagnosis or of like a depression diagnosis or of like a depression diagnosis or anxiety. Um they had been molested or anxiety. Um they had been molested or anxiety. Um they had been molested or girls that were victim of sex girls that were victim of sex girls that were victim of sex trafficking. I was in those spaces.

trafficking. I was in those spaces. trafficking. I was in those spaces. Right. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Right. Yeah. >> But what I realized is that when I >> But what I realized is that when I >> But what I realized is that when I started doing uh the Jess Hill bro and I started doing uh the Jess Hill bro and I started doing uh the Jess Hill bro and I actually wrote Jess Hill sis. actually wrote Jess Hill sis. actually wrote Jess Hill sis. >> Oh wow. >> Oh wow. >> Oh wow. >> I wrote the book three years ago just >> I wrote the book three years ago just >> I wrote the book three years ago just never released it. never released it. never released it. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> And it wasn't until my manager Crystal >> And it wasn't until my manager Crystal >> And it wasn't until my manager Crystal said I think it is time now because we said I think it is time now because we said I think it is time now because we have to heal as a community as men and have to heal as a community as men and have to heal as a community as men and women. women. women. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I think this would settle >> And I think this would settle >> And I think this would settle uh this tension. I don't think it would uh this tension. I don't think it would uh this tension. I don't think it would settle the score, but I think it would settle the score, but I think it would settle the score, but I think it would ease the tension ease the tension ease the tension >> that we're all on a journey. We all have >> that we're all on a journey. We all have >> that we're all on a journey. We all have been hurt. been hurt. been hurt. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> We all are bringing hurt into a >> We all are bringing hurt into a >> We all are bringing hurt into a relationship. We bringing hurt into the relationship. We bringing hurt into the relationship. We bringing hurt into the workplace. We're bringing her into the workplace. We're bringing her into the workplace. We're bringing her into the friendship. friendship. friendship. >> And it will allow for us to have grace. >> And it will allow for us to have grace. >> And it will allow for us to have grace. And I think what is what is great now is And I think what is what is great now is And I think what is what is great now is that as a man, I'm able to create space that as a man, I'm able to create space that as a man, I'm able to create space because I see myself as just a conduit because I see myself as just a conduit because I see myself as just a conduit >> is God is bringing it through me. Right. >> is God is bringing it through me. Right. >> is God is bringing it through me. Right. >> Yeah. And the beauty of it is to create >> Yeah. And the beauty of it is to create >> Yeah. And the beauty of it is to create space where both men and women can be space where both men and women can be space where both men and women can be able to heal. And here's what happened.

able to heal. And here's what happened. able to heal. And here's what happened. We now show up with open arms rather We now show up with open arms rather We now show up with open arms rather than closed fist. than closed fist. than closed fist. >> Man. Man. Man, I've I've watched and you >> Man. Man. Man, I've I've watched and you >> Man. Man. Man, I've I've watched and you know, I I can kind of testify as as know, I I can kind of testify as as know, I I can kind of testify as as being someone who who's dealt with this being someone who who's dealt with this being someone who who's dealt with this and I I'll never forget you taking the and I I'll never forget you taking the and I I'll never forget you taking the time out um a few months ago to just sit time out um a few months ago to just sit time out um a few months ago to just sit down with me at lunch. I was hurt, man. down with me at lunch. I was hurt, man. down with me at lunch. I was hurt, man. I called Jay. I was I was on the on the I called Jay. I was I was on the on the I called Jay. I was I was on the on the brink of of something mad. brink of of something mad. brink of of something mad. >> Mother invited me to lunch. He didn't >> Mother invited me to lunch. He didn't >> Mother invited me to lunch. He didn't pay, y'all. pay, y'all. pay, y'all. >> Yeah, that's what he did. He invited me >> Yeah, that's what he did. He invited me >> Yeah, that's what he did. He invited me to lunch to talk to me and I end up to lunch to talk to me and I end up to lunch to talk to me and I end up paying. paying. paying. >> Hey, in all fairness, he in all >> Hey, in all fairness, he in all >> Hey, in all fairness, he in all fairness, he's the bigger brother, you fairness, he's the bigger brother, you fairness, he's the bigger brother, you know, age and size, as you can see. know, age and size, as you can see. know, age and size, as you can see. >> Well, no, I No, no, it was >> Well, no, I No, no, it was >> Well, no, I No, no, it was >> But but no, man. And we had a serious >> But but no, man. And we had a serious >> But but no, man. And we had a serious conversation. Um, one of the areas that conversation. Um, one of the areas that conversation. Um, one of the areas that I was dealing with was, you know, my I was dealing with was, you know, my I was dealing with was, you know, my vulnerability, vulnerability, vulnerability, uh, to accept, you know, really what uh, to accept, you know, really what uh, to accept, you know, really what life was. And we talked about the life was. And we talked about the life was. And we talked about the importance of making decisions. Uh, but importance of making decisions. Uh, but importance of making decisions. Uh, but sometimes to even make decisions, you sometimes to even make decisions, you sometimes to even make decisions, you have to be able to think yourself clear have to be able to think yourself clear have to be able to think yourself clear and you have to be able to think clear.

and you have to be able to think clear. and you have to be able to think clear. So, you know, the the healed me, you So, you know, the the healed me, you So, you know, the the healed me, you know, now can ask you this question. know, now can ask you this question. know, now can ask you this question. What do you feel are some of the What do you feel are some of the What do you feel are some of the barriers uh in the body of Christ that's barriers uh in the body of Christ that's barriers uh in the body of Christ that's really preventing people from giving really preventing people from giving really preventing people from giving full vulnerability and transparency in full vulnerability and transparency in full vulnerability and transparency in certain settings? certain settings? certain settings? >> Psychological safety. >> Psychological safety. >> Psychological safety. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Church. >> Church. >> Church. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> It's supposed to be a hospital, but it's >> It's supposed to be a hospital, but it's >> It's supposed to be a hospital, but it's more like a courtroom for most of us. more like a courtroom for most of us. more like a courtroom for most of us. >> So, we feel like there's this judge with >> So, we feel like there's this judge with >> So, we feel like there's this judge with this gabble, right? And it's like, this gabble, right? And it's like, this gabble, right? And it's like, >> ah man, >> ah man, >> ah man, >> you know, he's slamming it down every >> you know, he's slamming it down every >> you know, he's slamming it down every time and and that's what keeps us it's time and and that's what keeps us it's time and and that's what keeps us it's it's psychological safety. it's psychological safety. it's psychological safety. >> Yeah. you know, uh, to not be judged, to >> Yeah. you know, uh, to not be judged, to >> Yeah. you know, uh, to not be judged, to not be marginalized, to to not feel not be marginalized, to to not feel not be marginalized, to to not feel ostracized. Psychological safety, man, ostracized. Psychological safety, man, ostracized. Psychological safety, man, is important because it it allows people is important because it it allows people is important because it it allows people um to not just be vulnerable, but it um to not just be vulnerable, but it um to not just be vulnerable, but it allows people to show up as themselves allows people to show up as themselves allows people to show up as themselves and not as a representative. You know, and not as a representative. You know, and not as a representative. You know, church is one of the biggest masquerade church is one of the biggest masquerade church is one of the biggest masquerade parties. parties. parties. >> Man, listen, you ain't lying. I told >> Man, listen, you ain't lying. I told >> Man, listen, you ain't lying. I told somebody before, co was not the first somebody before, co was not the first somebody before, co was not the first time that we wore mask in church. time that we wore mask in church. time that we wore mask in church. >> Oh, absolutely. We've been wearing masks >> Oh, absolutely. We've been wearing masks >> Oh, absolutely. We've been wearing masks since the church existed.

since the church existed. since the church existed. >> Oh yeah. >> Oh yeah. >> Oh yeah. >> Oh yeah. Abs. Absolutely. Yeah. >> Oh yeah. Abs. Absolutely. Yeah. >> Oh yeah. Abs. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. Because because Absolutely. Because because Absolutely. Because because >> everybody wants to look like Sunday's >> everybody wants to look like Sunday's >> everybody wants to look like Sunday's best. best. best. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> But living in Monday money Monday's >> But living in Monday money Monday's >> But living in Monday money Monday's worst. >> Yeah. Listen, I hope y'all getting this >> Yeah. Listen, I hope y'all getting this in the chat and you know, you can drop in the chat and you know, you can drop in the chat and you know, you can drop some questions there. We'll address a some questions there. We'll address a some questions there. We'll address a few in a second. But that's true, man. few in a second. But that's true, man. few in a second. But that's true, man. And I and I feel like we have perfected And I and I feel like we have perfected And I and I feel like we have perfected Sunday and Wednesday as you said before. Sunday and Wednesday as you said before. Sunday and Wednesday as you said before. I mean, we perfected it so bad, but it's I mean, we perfected it so bad, but it's I mean, we perfected it so bad, but it's that that at home. Yeah. that that at home. Yeah. that that at home. Yeah. >> You know, it's it's that it's that that >> You know, it's it's that it's that that >> You know, it's it's that it's that that at home. It's so many people and you you at home. It's so many people and you you at home. It's so many people and you you may be surprised, those of you who are may be surprised, those of you who are may be surprised, those of you who are who are watching, like there are people who are watching, like there are people who are watching, like there are people there have been times, man, where I' there have been times, man, where I' there have been times, man, where I' i've preached and I came home and felt i've preached and I came home and felt i've preached and I came home and felt like crap. like crap. like crap. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Like and and and my mind was so >> Like and and and my mind was so >> Like and and and my mind was so cluttered because I had a brief moment cluttered because I had a brief moment cluttered because I had a brief moment to escape it. to escape it. to escape it. came back in reality just like punched came back in reality just like punched came back in reality just like punched me dead in my face. me dead in my face. me dead in my face. >> And you know who you you know where that >> And you know who you you know where that >> And you know who you you know where that started too with Moses. started too with Moses. started too with Moses. >> Yeah. Yeah.

>> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Like this is the this is the thing about >> Like this is the this is the thing about >> Like this is the this is the thing about the Bible, right? the Bible, right? the Bible, right? There's so many characters. There's so many characters. There's so many characters. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That reflect our humanity. >> That reflect our humanity. >> That reflect our humanity. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You think about Moses. You sit at the >> You think about Moses. You sit at the >> You think about Moses. You sit at the top of this mountain all day. You're top of this mountain all day. You're top of this mountain all day. You're sitting here uh uh providing wisdom, sitting here uh uh providing wisdom, sitting here uh uh providing wisdom, providing insight. Like and if you know, providing insight. Like and if you know, providing insight. Like and if you know, imagine giving somebody advice and they imagine giving somebody advice and they imagine giving somebody advice and they do the complete opposite. do the complete opposite. do the complete opposite. >> Like I'm gonna be pissed. >> Like I'm gonna be pissed. >> Like I'm gonna be pissed. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I'm I'm gonna be mad. >> I'm I'm gonna be mad. >> I'm I'm gonna be mad. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So when you look at his anger and you >> So when you look at his anger and you >> So when you look at his anger and you look at his emptiness, right, I poured look at his emptiness, right, I poured look at his emptiness, right, I poured out of everything. out of everything. out of everything. >> And sometimes when you speak, I know >> And sometimes when you speak, I know >> And sometimes when you speak, I know this from the way I pour and I can this from the way I pour and I can this from the way I pour and I can imagine what you felt is you your your imagine what you felt is you your your imagine what you felt is you your your thought is like, did they receive it? thought is like, did they receive it? thought is like, did they receive it? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Then your other thought is, is God >> Then your other thought is, is God >> Then your other thought is, is God proud? Yeah, proud? Yeah, proud? Yeah, >> you know, did I give it all? Because you >> you know, did I give it all? Because you >> you know, did I give it all? Because you can go back through your notes like, can go back through your notes like, can go back through your notes like, man, I should have said this. I should man, I should have said this. I should man, I should have said this. I should have said this. So, have said this. So, have said this. So, >> um I I don't I don't think that's out of >> um I I don't I don't think that's out of >> um I I don't I don't think that's out of the norm to feel empty. the norm to feel empty. the norm to feel empty. >> Uh I I think it's important for us to >> Uh I I think it's important for us to >> Uh I I think it's important for us to again understand again understand again understand >> what the human experience is. When you >> what the human experience is. When you >> what the human experience is. When you give out, there's a part of you that give out, there's a part of you that give out, there's a part of you that looks to be refilled in whatever way.

looks to be refilled in whatever way. looks to be refilled in whatever way. And I think what we've learned to do as And I think what we've learned to do as And I think what we've learned to do as a body and believers is escapism. a body and believers is escapism. a body and believers is escapism. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Like we we we we treat church like the >> Like we we we we treat church like the >> Like we we we we treat church like the dope house. We come and get a fix and we dope house. We come and get a fix and we dope house. We come and get a fix and we go home go home go home >> and you dip. Yeah. >> and you dip. Yeah. >> and you dip. Yeah. >> You know what I mean? And so nobody's >> You know what I mean? And so nobody's >> You know what I mean? And so nobody's really taking really taking really taking >> uh the the the the word to try to apply >> uh the the the the word to try to apply >> uh the the the the word to try to apply it. it. it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It's like let me get high. >> It's like let me get high. >> It's like let me get high. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And let me feel good all day to day. let >> And let me feel good all day to day. let >> And let me feel good all day to day. let me get the brunch and let me get to the me get the brunch and let me get to the me get the brunch and let me get to the night. And you get to the night and you night. And you get to the night and you night. And you get to the night and you wake up on Monday and you realize wake up on Monday and you realize wake up on Monday and you realize >> I don't have what I need. >> I don't have what I need. >> I don't have what I need. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> To begin the week, >> To begin the week, >> To begin the week, >> man. Man. Man. And that's and that's >> man. Man. Man. And that's and that's >> man. Man. Man. And that's and that's real. That that's so real because we real. That that's so real because we real. That that's so real because we we've been in that space and that's, you we've been in that space and that's, you we've been in that space and that's, you know, for those of us who attend church know, for those of us who attend church know, for those of us who attend church in person and online, one of the things in person and online, one of the things in person and online, one of the things that I'm glad um that that we started that I'm glad um that that we started that I'm glad um that that we started here was community groups. here was community groups. here was community groups. >> Yeah. um community groups run and >> Yeah. um community groups run and >> Yeah. um community groups run and there's so many different topics uh from there's so many different topics uh from there's so many different topics uh from you know faith and mental health uh to you know faith and mental health uh to you know faith and mental health uh to business to uh fitness so many areas for business to uh fitness so many areas for business to uh fitness so many areas for people to really gain an outlet you know people to really gain an outlet you know people to really gain an outlet you know beyond just Sunday even you know there beyond just Sunday even you know there beyond just Sunday even you know there are groups on you know biblical are groups on you know biblical are groups on you know biblical teachings and more it's just important teachings and more it's just important teachings and more it's just important to get refilled because what I've to get refilled because what I've to get refilled because what I've learned Dr. Jay is that that emptiness learned Dr. Jay is that that emptiness learned Dr. Jay is that that emptiness >> you will find the closest thing in >> you will find the closest thing in >> you will find the closest thing in proximity to fill that void of being proximity to fill that void of being proximity to fill that void of being empty and that can be just anything. I empty and that can be just anything. I empty and that can be just anything. I won't go down a laundry list, but won't go down a laundry list, but won't go down a laundry list, but there's so many mistakes that that we there's so many mistakes that that we there's so many mistakes that that we can make. And it's important, I believe, can make. And it's important, I believe, can make. And it's important, I believe, to have people in your life who can help

to have people in your life who can help to have people in your life who can help redirect and course correct. Yeah. Um, redirect and course correct. Yeah. Um, redirect and course correct. Yeah. Um, and and to seek that help to the person and and to seek that help to the person and and to seek that help to the person who is kind of apprehensive on on who is kind of apprehensive on on who is kind of apprehensive on on therapy, apprehensive on getting that therapy, apprehensive on getting that therapy, apprehensive on getting that that help or life coaching or anything that help or life coaching or anything that help or life coaching or anything of that sort. What would you say to of that sort. What would you say to of that sort. What would you say to encourage them? Because some as as some encourage them? Because some as as some encourage them? Because some as as some believers may feel like, hey, well, I believers may feel like, hey, well, I believers may feel like, hey, well, I don't need therapy, you know, I'm I'm don't need therapy, you know, I'm I'm don't need therapy, you know, I'm I'm good. I just pray about it and it'll go good. I just pray about it and it'll go good. I just pray about it and it'll go away. away. away. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But for those who may be on the fence, >> But for those who may be on the fence, >> But for those who may be on the fence, >> should I do this? Should I not do this? >> should I do this? Should I not do this? >> should I do this? Should I not do this? I really want this. I don't know what I really want this. I don't know what I really want this. I don't know what it's about. What are some tools and tips it's about. What are some tools and tips it's about. What are some tools and tips that someone could maybe apply if that someone could maybe apply if that someone could maybe apply if they're in search of someone? they're in search of someone? they're in search of someone? >> I would say look at where you are in >> I would say look at where you are in >> I would say look at where you are in your in your life and ask yourself, is your in your life and ask yourself, is your in your life and ask yourself, is this working out for me? this working out for me? this working out for me? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And after you answer that question, I'm >> And after you answer that question, I'm >> And after you answer that question, I'm sure the majority of people say life is sure the majority of people say life is sure the majority of people say life is not working out for them. not working out for them. not working out for them. >> Yeah. Then I think it's important to ask >> Yeah. Then I think it's important to ask >> Yeah. Then I think it's important to ask yourself where do you want to go? yourself where do you want to go? yourself where do you want to go? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Who do you want to become? Those are two >> Who do you want to become? Those are two >> Who do you want to become? Those are two questions that I start out like where do questions that I start out like where do questions that I start out like where do you want to go? Because the therapist is you want to go? Because the therapist is you want to go? Because the therapist is going to be at the GPS and you're going going to be at the GPS and you're going going to be at the GPS and you're going to be the driver.

to be the driver. to be the driver. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Right. So I think it's important to ask >> Right. So I think it's important to ask >> Right. So I think it's important to ask yourself. And and here's the other part. yourself. And and here's the other part. yourself. And and here's the other part. You may not know where you want to go, You may not know where you want to go, You may not know where you want to go, but through this therapeutic process, but through this therapeutic process, but through this therapeutic process, you discover the the one thing that they you discover the the one thing that they you discover the the one thing that they drilled in us in grad school. Remain drilled in us in grad school. Remain drilled in us in grad school. Remain curious. curious. curious. >> Yeah. believers, don't lose your >> Yeah. believers, don't lose your >> Yeah. believers, don't lose your curiosity. I am just as curious as I am curiosity. I am just as curious as I am curiosity. I am just as curious as I am at 44 as I was at 22, at 44 as I was at 22, at 44 as I was at 22, >> man. >> man. >> man. >> Right. I'm always looking to learn more. >> Right. I'm always looking to learn more. >> Right. I'm always looking to learn more. Like I'm forever a student. Like I'm forever a student. Like I'm forever a student. >> I love that. Like I I mean I pick I read >> I love that. Like I I mean I pick I read >> I love that. Like I I mean I pick I read anything. anything. anything. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? And so look to >> You know what I mean? And so look to >> You know what I mean? And so look to become look to be curious about your become look to be curious about your become look to be curious about your life. Who can you become? life. Who can you become? life. Who can you become? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> What can you learn? Where can you go? >> What can you learn? Where can you go? >> What can you learn? Where can you go? >> Yeah. And what better person could you >> Yeah. And what better person could you >> Yeah. And what better person could you become if you actually dealt with this become if you actually dealt with this become if you actually dealt with this issue, issue, issue, >> man? >> man? >> man? >> Because it's easy to say it's their >> Because it's easy to say it's their >> Because it's easy to say it's their fault, it's mama fault, it's daddy fault, it's mama fault, it's daddy fault, it's mama fault, it's daddy fault, but ha have you ever thought that fault, but ha have you ever thought that fault, but ha have you ever thought that it's your responsibility?

>> Wow. >> Wow. >> And this is not negating what happened. >> And this is not negating what happened. >> And this is not negating what happened. This is not deflecting. This is not This is not deflecting. This is not This is not deflecting. This is not dismissing. This is not a being dismissing. This is not a being dismissing. This is not a being insensitive to whatever your experience insensitive to whatever your experience insensitive to whatever your experience is. Yes, it happened. is. Yes, it happened. is. Yes, it happened. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yes, it hurt. It was painful. But the >> Yes, it hurt. It was painful. But the >> Yes, it hurt. It was painful. But the choice is yours. And I'm not just choice is yours. And I'm not just choice is yours. And I'm not just talking about healing. The choice is talking about healing. The choice is talking about healing. The choice is yours to just become yours to just become yours to just become >> to become. >> to become. >> to become. >> And you know, let me add this from a >> And you know, let me add this from a >> And you know, let me add this from a physiological perspective. So people physiological perspective. So people physiological perspective. So people always ask me, "What is my secret to always ask me, "What is my secret to always ask me, "What is my secret to aging?" Right? aging?" Right? aging?" Right? >> And I don't want to tell them half of >> And I don't want to tell them half of >> And I don't want to tell them half of the time, right? because I'm like, you the time, right? because I'm like, you the time, right? because I'm like, you know, people I say, yeah, I'm I'm not as know, people I say, yeah, I'm I'm not as know, people I say, yeah, I'm I'm not as young as I look, right? And and I have young as I look, right? And and I have young as I look, right? And and I have fun with this, bro. I I I I just think fun with this, bro. I I I I just think fun with this, bro. I I I I just think it's just the the greatest discovery. it's just the the greatest discovery. it's just the the greatest discovery. And here's what I've learned, man. Your And here's what I've learned, man. Your And here's what I've learned, man. Your outlook outlook outlook really determines so much about your really determines so much about your really determines so much about your life, right? So, research shows that the life, right? So, research shows that the life, right? So, research shows that the individual that has a positive outlook individual that has a positive outlook individual that has a positive outlook about aging about aging about aging >> will age, will live longer, 7.5 times >> will age, will live longer, 7.5 times >> will age, will live longer, 7.5 times longer than the average person. Here's longer than the average person. Here's longer than the average person. Here's why.

why. why. Your story is biology. Your story is biology. Your story is biology. >> So whatever story you tell yourself, >> So whatever story you tell yourself, >> So whatever story you tell yourself, >> yeah, >> yeah, >> yeah, >> it designed the biology of your makeup. >> it designed the biology of your makeup. >> it designed the biology of your makeup. Which is why as a man thinkketh it so is Which is why as a man thinkketh it so is Which is why as a man thinkketh it so is he. That's Bible. Yeah. he. That's Bible. Yeah. he. That's Bible. Yeah. >> You can know all the Bible and have all >> You can know all the Bible and have all >> You can know all the Bible and have all of God. But if your thoughts, of God. But if your thoughts, of God. But if your thoughts, >> come on, man. towards yourself. >> come on, man. towards yourself. >> come on, man. towards yourself. >> Come on. >> Come on. >> Come on. >> Is that God won't >> Is that God won't >> Is that God won't >> I don't know. >> I don't know. >> I don't know. >> It's her fault. It's his fault. You can >> It's her fault. It's his fault. You can >> It's her fault. It's his fault. You can never become never become never become >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> And again, I'm not placing this on God. >> And again, I'm not placing this on God. >> And again, I'm not placing this on God. I'm not placing this on Jesus. You get I'm not placing this on Jesus. You get I'm not placing this on Jesus. You get to decide the story you want. to decide the story you want. to decide the story you want. >> You can change the narrative at any >> You can change the narrative at any >> You can change the narrative at any given time. given time. given time. >> Any time. Man, >> Any time. Man, >> Any time. Man, >> you can pick that pen up and write a >> you can pick that pen up and write a >> you can pick that pen up and write a completely different story. But here's completely different story. But here's completely different story. But here's what we do. what we do. what we do. We love telling the version of the story We love telling the version of the story We love telling the version of the story that gets us the most attention. that gets us the most attention. that gets us the most attention. >> Oh, come on. You got to hold on to that.

>> Oh, come on. You got to hold on to that. >> Oh, come on. You got to hold on to that. Yeah. Stay there for a little bit. Yeah. Stay there for a little bit. Yeah. Stay there for a little bit. >> We love to tell that story. I hear this >> We love to tell that story. I hear this >> We love to tell that story. I hear this a lot. When I was working in Frisco, I'm a lot. When I was working in Frisco, I'm a lot. When I was working in Frisco, I'm not going to call the church name, but not going to call the church name, but not going to call the church name, but >> that was a church. >> that was a church. >> that was a church. >> Not here. Please, please, please, God >> Not here. Please, please, please, God >> Not here. Please, please, please, God know. know. know. >> Please know. There was a church that uh >> Please know. There was a church that uh >> Please know. There was a church that uh was beside our office. 70% of our was beside our office. 70% of our was beside our office. 70% of our clients were from this church. clients were from this church. clients were from this church. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Mega church. >> Mega church. >> Mega church. >> And and um the majority of the people >> And and um the majority of the people >> And and um the majority of the people that were in that practice, man, were that were in that practice, man, were that were in that practice, man, were trying to understand their life, right? trying to understand their life, right? trying to understand their life, right? Not just with their walk, but just their Not just with their walk, but just their Not just with their walk, but just their life all together. life all together. life all together. >> Wow. And what I realized man is the >> Wow. And what I realized man is the >> Wow. And what I realized man is the majority of them have taken on this majority of them have taken on this majority of them have taken on this pathology of life and they were holding pathology of life and they were holding pathology of life and they were holding on to it. And I would ask so many of on to it. And I would ask so many of on to it. And I would ask so many of them, what's the point of being saved, them, what's the point of being saved, them, what's the point of being saved, >> man? >> man? >> man? >> Because we all get up, behold, you are a >> Because we all get up, behold, you are a >> Because we all get up, behold, you are a new creature.

new creature. new creature. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> What is the point of being this new >> What is the point of being this new >> What is the point of being this new creature if you're going to keep telling creature if you're going to keep telling creature if you're going to keep telling the same story? But what I realized is the same story? But what I realized is the same story? But what I realized is more people more people more people >> were like the man who laid by the pool. >> were like the man who laid by the pool. >> were like the man who laid by the pool. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Again, right. He finally got up one day. >> Again, right. He finally got up one day. >> Again, right. He finally got up one day. Right. Right. Right. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But if you listen to listen to his story >> But if you listen to listen to his story >> But if you listen to listen to his story >> when Jesus came to him, he kept telling >> when Jesus came to him, he kept telling >> when Jesus came to him, he kept telling Jesus how every time he went to get in, Jesus how every time he went to get in, Jesus how every time he went to get in, somebody would beat him to death. somebody would beat him to death. somebody would beat him to death. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. >> That story got him attention for 30ome >> That story got him attention for 30ome >> That story got him attention for 30ome years years years >> until one Jes one day Jesus like, "All >> until one Jes one day Jesus like, "All >> until one Jes one day Jesus like, "All right, dude. What what we doing, bro?" right, dude. What what we doing, bro?" right, dude. What what we doing, bro?" Right. Right. Right. >> And I'm I can imagine now I'm not just >> And I'm I can imagine now I'm not just >> And I'm I can imagine now I'm not just I'm not saying Jesus did that, but I'm I'm not saying Jesus did that, but I'm I'm not saying Jesus did that, but I'm like Jesus. I'm sure Jesus like, like Jesus. I'm sure Jesus like, like Jesus. I'm sure Jesus like, "Listen, I ain't going to hold you, but "Listen, I ain't going to hold you, but "Listen, I ain't going to hold you, but but what you doing, brother?" but what you doing, brother?" but what you doing, brother?" >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Decide. Pick up thy bed and walk. >> Decide. Pick up thy bed and walk. >> Decide. Pick up thy bed and walk. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But we're waiting for somebody >> But we're waiting for somebody >> But we're waiting for somebody >> to come and save us. >> to come and save us. >> to come and save us. >> Cuz Savior has already died. >> Cuz Savior has already died. >> Cuz Savior has already died. >> But God has given us the power. >> But God has given us the power. >> But God has given us the power. >> And he's given us the power not only >> And he's given us the power not only >> And he's given us the power not only through his word, but if you have a through his word, but if you have a through his word, but if you have a brain brain brain >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah. and you're in your right mind at any and you're in your right mind at any and you're in your right mind at any given time, you can change course. given time, you can change course. given time, you can change course. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That's what therapy and healing is >> That's what therapy and healing is >> That's what therapy and healing is really about. It's changing the course. really about. It's changing the course. really about. It's changing the course. And when you change the story, watch And when you change the story, watch And when you change the story, watch your body begin to change. your body begin to change. your body begin to change. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Your body is going to respond >> Your body is going to respond >> Your body is going to respond differently. differently. differently. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Most people are not sick >> Most people are not sick >> Most people are not sick >> because something is in them that is not >> because something is in them that is not >> because something is in them that is not bad. Most people are sick because they bad. Most people are sick because they bad. Most people are sick because they won't let go of what the bad thing did. won't let go of what the bad thing did. won't let go of what the bad thing did. We >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So, we lay by the pool >> So, we lay by the pool >> So, we lay by the pool >> and we just >> and we just >> and we just >> You get in the relationship. >> You get in the relationship. >> You get in the relationship. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And you get to talk about the past. >> And you get to talk about the past. >> And you get to talk about the past. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And again, I'm not saying that the past >> And again, I'm not saying that the past >> And again, I'm not saying that the past is is doesn't serve its significance. is is doesn't serve its significance. is is doesn't serve its significance. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But you can't continue to pull the old >> But you can't continue to pull the old >> But you can't continue to pull the old while reaching for something new. You while reaching for something new. You while reaching for something new. You got to make a decision. got to make a decision. got to make a decision. >> Yeah, man. That's real. That's real, >> Yeah, man. That's real. That's real, >> Yeah, man. That's real. That's real, man. I I want to take one um one man. I I want to take one um one man. I I want to take one um one question from the chat cuz I know people question from the chat cuz I know people question from the chat cuz I know people have been lighting that thing clean up.

have been lighting that thing clean up. have been lighting that thing clean up. Are y'all enjoying Dr. Jay tonight, man? Are y'all enjoying Dr. Jay tonight, man? Are y'all enjoying Dr. Jay tonight, man? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. >> In person and uh online, I know y'all >> In person and uh online, I know y'all >> In person and uh online, I know y'all are enjoying it. Do we have any are enjoying it. Do we have any are enjoying it. Do we have any questions in the chat? questions in the chat? questions in the chat? >> None. Well, hey y'all listen, put the >> None. Well, hey y'all listen, put the >> None. Well, hey y'all listen, put the questions in the chat, y'all. Feel free questions in the chat, y'all. Feel free questions in the chat, y'all. Feel free to try. to try. to try. >> I'm going tell you what's happening. >> I'm going tell you what's happening. >> I'm going tell you what's happening. People are processing. People are processing. People are processing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> They're processing this. This is This is >> They're processing this. This is This is >> They're processing this. This is This is the lot to digest. Yeah. the lot to digest. Yeah. the lot to digest. Yeah. >> You know, and that's that's one thing >> You know, and that's that's one thing >> You know, and that's that's one thing that when I'm having these mental health that when I'm having these mental health that when I'm having these mental health discussions, man, it's a lot to digest discussions, man, it's a lot to digest discussions, man, it's a lot to digest because because because when God the way God uses me, it when God the way God uses me, it when God the way God uses me, it stimulates your brain to get you to stimulates your brain to get you to stimulates your brain to get you to thinking. thinking. thinking. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And a lot of times people don't have the >> And a lot of times people don't have the >> And a lot of times people don't have the opportunity to think. opportunity to think. opportunity to think. >> And particularly when you look at social >> And particularly when you look at social >> And particularly when you look at social media, media, media, >> we're inated with we're we're inated >> we're inated with we're we're inated >> we're inated with we're we're inated with messages all day. with messages all day. with messages all day. >> All day long. So right now if you're >> All day long. So right now if you're >> All day long. So right now if you're sitting in front of your computer, sitting in front of your computer, sitting in front of your computer, you're sitting in front of your phone, you're sitting in front of your phone, you're sitting in front of your phone, you're like, "Yo, you're like, "Yo, you're like, "Yo, I'm making you look in your life." I'm making you look in your life." I'm making you look in your life." >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> You're probably becoming very >> You're probably becoming very >> You're probably becoming very introspective. introspective. introspective. >> Introspect. Yeah. >> Introspect. Yeah. >> Introspect. Yeah. >> You're probably becoming very >> You're probably becoming very >> You're probably becoming very reflective. So this is a moment of reflective. So this is a moment of reflective. So this is a moment of reflexivity for you.

reflexivity for you. reflexivity for you. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Right. You in some way you're you're >> Right. You in some way you're you're >> Right. You in some way you're you're assessing life assessing life assessing life not as you're living it, but life of of not as you're living it, but life of of not as you're living it, but life of of of assessing life in the way that you of assessing life in the way that you of assessing life in the way that you would like would like would like >> to live it. >> to live it. >> to live it. >> So it becomes a lot. >> So it becomes a lot. >> So it becomes a lot. >> Yeah. And you know what I I've realized >> Yeah. And you know what I I've realized >> Yeah. And you know what I I've realized this too is that when you are learning this too is that when you are learning this too is that when you are learning this information this information this information um it it really forces you to sit with um it it really forces you to sit with um it it really forces you to sit with you. you. you. It forces you to sit with you. And It forces you to sit with you. And It forces you to sit with you. And that's one of the things that I I've that's one of the things that I I've that's one of the things that I I've learned. One of the things I I love to learned. One of the things I I love to learned. One of the things I I love to do is when I get off of work, first do is when I get off of work, first do is when I get off of work, first thing I'm doing is I'm I'm driving. No thing I'm doing is I'm I'm driving. No thing I'm doing is I'm I'm driving. No music on. music on. music on. >> You know, cuz you know my boss, she >> You know, cuz you know my boss, she >> You know, cuz you know my boss, she gives a lot of information. You know gives a lot of information. You know gives a lot of information. You know what I'm saying? a lot of information. what I'm saying? a lot of information. what I'm saying? a lot of information. So, I'm saying that while she walked out So, I'm saying that while she walked out So, I'm saying that while she walked out the room, uh she gives a lot of the room, uh she gives a lot of the room, uh she gives a lot of information and and you take it and you information and and you take it and you information and and you take it and you got to really sit with it. But even in got to really sit with it. But even in got to really sit with it. But even in that, there are times where she has that, there are times where she has that, there are times where she has corrected me, um, you know, kind of corrected me, um, you know, kind of corrected me, um, you know, kind of suggested certain things and I really suggested certain things and I really suggested certain things and I really have to sit with it. And and I feel that have to sit with it. And and I feel that have to sit with it. And and I feel that that's what's even happening now on that's what's even happening now on that's what's even happening now on this, you know, live stream is that this, you know, live stream is that this, you know, live stream is that people really for and it could have been people really for and it could have been people really for and it could have been for the first time today. you are really for the first time today. you are really for the first time today. you are really sitting with sitting with sitting with >> what you really had to process and that >> what you really had to process and that >> what you really had to process and that can be a challenge if you never have the can be a challenge if you never have the can be a challenge if you never have the space or the mental freedom to do it space or the mental freedom to do it space or the mental freedom to do it because we have so many people who are because we have so many people who are because we have so many people who are balancing life, family, marriage, grief balancing life, family, marriage, grief balancing life, family, marriage, grief and all of this balancing. Dr. Jay, what and all of this balancing. Dr. Jay, what and all of this balancing. Dr. Jay, what are like some practical tools that are like some practical tools that are like some practical tools that people can apply to begin to process?

people can apply to begin to process? people can apply to begin to process? >> I would say this to add to what you just >> I would say this to add to what you just >> I would say this to add to what you just said about it can be difficult to sit. said about it can be difficult to sit. said about it can be difficult to sit. Silence can be loud to a person who's Silence can be loud to a person who's Silence can be loud to a person who's always on the move. always on the move. always on the move. >> Yeah, man. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah, man. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah, man. Yeah. Yeah. >> Silence can be loud. >> Silence can be loud. >> Silence can be loud. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And so you could be sitting with >> And so you could be sitting with >> And so you could be sitting with yourself all of a sudden you have all yourself all of a sudden you have all yourself all of a sudden you have all these thoughts, right? And progressive these thoughts, right? And progressive these thoughts, right? And progressive thoughts, intrusive thoughts, you know, thoughts, intrusive thoughts, you know, thoughts, intrusive thoughts, you know, thoughts that was, you know, you ain't thoughts that was, you know, you ain't thoughts that was, you know, you ain't really thought about in 10 years. The really thought about in 10 years. The really thought about in 10 years. The the first thing, intentionality. the first thing, intentionality. the first thing, intentionality. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You have to be intentional by creating >> You have to be intentional by creating >> You have to be intentional by creating space for you to process. Mhm. space for you to process. Mhm. space for you to process. Mhm. >> Secondly, >> Secondly, >> Secondly, I I you know, and this is not to sound I I you know, and this is not to sound I I you know, and this is not to sound cliche. It's not about journaling, but cliche. It's not about journaling, but cliche. It's not about journaling, but write your thoughts out. I love to write write your thoughts out. I love to write write your thoughts out. I love to write my thoughts out. my thoughts out. my thoughts out. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And then when you write your thoughts >> And then when you write your thoughts >> And then when you write your thoughts out, just sit with it. And you don't out, just sit with it. And you don't out, just sit with it. And you don't have to sit with it to answer what the have to sit with it to answer what the have to sit with it to answer what the thought is. Sit with it again to be thought is. Sit with it again to be thought is. Sit with it again to be curious. curious. curious. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? To allow yourself >> You know what I mean? To allow yourself >> You know what I mean? To allow yourself to discover. There's so many times, bro, to discover. There's so many times, bro, to discover. There's so many times, bro, like I'm sitting on a plane and I would like I'm sitting on a plane and I would like I'm sitting on a plane and I would have a, you know, like recently, right? have a, you know, like recently, right? have a, you know, like recently, right? Um I was having this thought about love.

Um I was having this thought about love. Um I was having this thought about love. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And and my thought was that I was >> And and my thought was that I was >> And and my thought was that I was sitting with is sitting with is sitting with is >> love is this thing that we desire. Yeah. >> love is this thing that we desire. Yeah. >> love is this thing that we desire. Yeah. >> But it's also the thing that we are >> But it's also the thing that we are >> But it's also the thing that we are afraid of. afraid of. afraid of. >> Yes sir. >> Yes sir. >> Yes sir. >> And so I'm sitting with this thought on >> And so I'm sitting with this thought on >> And so I'm sitting with this thought on the plane, right? I'm writing it down the plane, right? I'm writing it down the plane, right? I'm writing it down >> and I'm sitting on the plane and all of >> and I'm sitting on the plane and all of >> and I'm sitting on the plane and all of a sudden I just begin exploring and a sudden I just begin exploring and a sudden I just begin exploring and walking through like uh uh this flower walking through like uh uh this flower walking through like uh uh this flower bed of just different questions. And bed of just different questions. And bed of just different questions. And then I discover that the very thing that then I discover that the very thing that then I discover that the very thing that we are afraid of is actually the very we are afraid of is actually the very we are afraid of is actually the very thing that we have to embrace. thing that we have to embrace. thing that we have to embrace. >> Yeah, man. Yeah, that's real. >> Yeah, man. Yeah, that's real. >> Yeah, man. Yeah, that's real. >> So, >> So, >> So, is it fair to say that I can be afraid is it fair to say that I can be afraid is it fair to say that I can be afraid while still reaching for it? while still reaching for it? while still reaching for it? >> And that's the question I'm asking >> And that's the question I'm asking >> And that's the question I'm asking myself. myself. myself. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Because we often hear people say, "I >> Because we often hear people say, "I >> Because we often hear people say, "I desire love, but I'm afraid, you know, I desire love, but I'm afraid, you know, I desire love, but I'm afraid, you know, I I don't want to be hurt." I don't want to be hurt." I don't want to be hurt." >> Yeah. But the risk and all of it hurt is >> Yeah. But the risk and all of it hurt is >> Yeah. But the risk and all of it hurt is always at the forefront. always at the forefront. always at the forefront. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But the prerequisite to love altogether >> But the prerequisite to love altogether >> But the prerequisite to love altogether is the risk.

is the risk. is the risk. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Is the the taking the chance, right? To >> Is the the taking the chance, right? To >> Is the the taking the chance, right? To truly fall in love with God truly fall in love with God truly fall in love with God >> is to risk that he may not answer all of >> is to risk that he may not answer all of >> is to risk that he may not answer all of your prayers. your prayers. your prayers. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And also the trust >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And also the trust >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And also the trust factor of God. You can have such a You factor of God. You can have such a You factor of God. You can have such a You have difficulty have difficulty have difficulty sometimes trusting God because the last sometimes trusting God because the last sometimes trusting God because the last time that you trusted a person, they let time that you trusted a person, they let time that you trusted a person, they let you down. you down. you down. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> And sometimes we lump that all into one >> And sometimes we lump that all into one >> And sometimes we lump that all into one thing. thing. thing. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> And it puts us on the opposite side of >> And it puts us on the opposite side of >> And it puts us on the opposite side of God because I know who you are, but I God because I know who you are, but I God because I know who you are, but I don't trust you. don't trust you. don't trust you. >> Because the last time I open myself up >> Because the last time I open myself up >> Because the last time I open myself up to trust, I got hurt. to trust, I got hurt. to trust, I got hurt. >> And what what I really what helped me is >> And what what I really what helped me is >> And what what I really what helped me is that I stopped looking for God to be that I stopped looking for God to be that I stopped looking for God to be fair and looking for him and started fair and looking for him and started fair and looking for him and started looking for him to be just. looking for him to be just. looking for him to be just. >> Yes, sir. Yes, sir. >> Yes, sir. Yes, sir. >> Yes, sir. Yes, sir. >> Cuz if you're looking for fair, you >> Cuz if you're looking for fair, you >> Cuz if you're looking for fair, you going to get your feelings hurt. going to get your feelings hurt. going to get your feelings hurt. >> Right. Right. >> Right. Right. >> Right. Right. >> You get your feelings hurt. Right. >> You get your feelings hurt. Right. >> You get your feelings hurt. Right. >> So again, the way I stabilize my mental >> So again, the way I stabilize my mental >> So again, the way I stabilize my mental health is I'm not looking for fair. health is I'm not looking for fair. health is I'm not looking for fair. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> I'm just looking for him to be just. >> I'm just looking for him to be just. >> I'm just looking for him to be just. >> Be just. >> Be just. >> Be just. >> But I know that in him being just, I >> But I know that in him being just, I >> But I know that in him being just, I discovered what? His faithfulness.

discovered what? His faithfulness. discovered what? His faithfulness. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> So as I lean into him being a just God, >> So as I lean into him being a just God, >> So as I lean into him being a just God, I lean into his faithfulness. I lean I lean into his faithfulness. I lean I lean into his faithfulness. I lean into his faithfulness. Guess what else I into his faithfulness. Guess what else I into his faithfulness. Guess what else I discover? discover? discover? >> His grace. >> His grace. >> His grace. >> His grace. Yeah, >> His grace. Yeah, >> His grace. Yeah, >> because it's sufficient. >> because it's sufficient. >> because it's sufficient. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> His mercy, it's what? Everlasting. >> His mercy, it's what? Everlasting. >> His mercy, it's what? Everlasting. >> So, you just keep peeling the onion >> So, you just keep peeling the onion >> So, you just keep peeling the onion back. back. back. >> And when you get to the core of it, >> And when you get to the core of it, >> And when you get to the core of it, right, you find yourself centered in right, you find yourself centered in right, you find yourself centered in this foundation of fear. this foundation of fear. this foundation of fear. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Doubt. >> Doubt. >> Doubt. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Love. >> Love. >> Love. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Understanding. >> Understanding. >> Understanding. Complexity. Because it's all of that. Complexity. Because it's all of that. Complexity. Because it's all of that. Yeah. Because there's time we'll watch a Yeah. Because there's time we'll watch a Yeah. Because there's time we'll watch a person who love God die. person who love God die. person who love God die. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And we say, "God, why didn't you heal >> And we say, "God, why didn't you heal >> And we say, "God, why didn't you heal them?" them?" them?" >> Mhm. Mhm. Oh, man. That's good. >> Mhm. Mhm. Oh, man. That's good. >> Mhm. Mhm. Oh, man. That's good. >> And that's not a bad question, right? >> And that's not a bad question, right? >> And that's not a bad question, right? >> Because he allows you to sit in all of >> Because he allows you to sit in all of >> Because he allows you to sit in all of that, that, that, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> And he wants you to question him. And >> And he wants you to question him. And >> And he wants you to question him. And that doesn't mean that you want to get that doesn't mean that you want to get that doesn't mean that you want to get an answer, an answer, an answer, >> but it allows you to work out your >> but it allows you to work out your >> but it allows you to work out your humanity. humanity. humanity. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And to sit in that. So, number one, be >> And to sit in that. So, number one, be >> And to sit in that. So, number one, be intentional.

intentional. intentional. >> Yeah. about the space you need. Like >> Yeah. about the space you need. Like >> Yeah. about the space you need. Like your space is your car. your space is your car. your space is your car. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That's where you process. >> That's where you process. >> That's where you process. >> And then sometime I'm sure you're >> And then sometime I'm sure you're >> And then sometime I'm sure you're jotting things down and then you're jotting things down and then you're jotting things down and then you're sitting with them. sitting with them. sitting with them. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And then whatever you discover from >> And then whatever you discover from >> And then whatever you discover from sitting with them, sitting with them, sitting with them, >> lean into it. >> lean into it. >> lean into it. >> Lean into it. Yeah, man. Ka, what um >> Lean into it. Yeah, man. Ka, what um >> Lean into it. Yeah, man. Ka, what um questions do we have in the chat? questions do we have in the chat? questions do we have in the chat? Reisha Davis says, "For those of us who Reisha Davis says, "For those of us who Reisha Davis says, "For those of us who have isolated for safety, what are have isolated for safety, what are have isolated for safety, what are practical tips to stick our toe back practical tips to stick our toe back practical tips to stick our toe back into socialization without shock?" into socialization without shock?" into socialization without shock?" >> Got you, Reisha. >> Got you, Reisha. >> Got you, Reisha. >> That's a that's a good question. You're >> That's a that's a good question. You're >> That's a that's a good question. You're isolated for safety, but what it's isolated for safety, but what it's isolated for safety, but what it's really is is to isolate yourself for really is is to isolate yourself for really is is to isolate yourself for protection. protection. protection. >> Safety is a word that we're using to >> Safety is a word that we're using to >> Safety is a word that we're using to guard oursel from hurt guard oursel from hurt guard oursel from hurt >> and possible rejection. >> and possible rejection. >> and possible rejection. >> Yeah. So, how you stick your toe? I >> Yeah. So, how you stick your toe? I >> Yeah. So, how you stick your toe? I think that's what she said. You know, think that's what she said. You know, think that's what she said. You know, >> that was a good question. >> that was a good question. >> that was a good question. >> Yeah, it's a good toe. Yeah, stick your >> Yeah, it's a good toe. Yeah, stick your >> Yeah, it's a good toe. Yeah, stick your big toe. You know, your big toe. But big toe. You know, your big toe. But big toe. You know, your big toe. But yeah, yeah, yeah, >> but the the the the way you do it is you >> but the the the the way you do it is you >> but the the the the way you do it is you allow yourself to exercise allow yourself to exercise allow yourself to exercise that part of you by taking the risk.

that part of you by taking the risk. that part of you by taking the risk. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> To engage. >> To engage. >> To engage. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Community is going to require you to >> Community is going to require you to >> Community is going to require you to engage. engage. engage. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. when you like when you like when you like I grew up, you know, I'm the only boy. I grew up, you know, I'm the only boy. I grew up, you know, I'm the only boy. Um I have sisters. Um I have sisters. Um I have sisters. I didn't really know how to interact I didn't really know how to interact I didn't really know how to interact with other brothers. with other brothers. with other brothers. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Right. And I didn't know how to interact >> Right. And I didn't know how to interact >> Right. And I didn't know how to interact because I was around girls all the time. because I was around girls all the time. because I was around girls all the time. And then when my parents divorced, my And then when my parents divorced, my And then when my parents divorced, my mom has 12 sisters. mom has 12 sisters. mom has 12 sisters. >> It was just a lot of women all the time. >> It was just a lot of women all the time. >> It was just a lot of women all the time. >> Yeah. And what sports taught me not only >> Yeah. And what sports taught me not only >> Yeah. And what sports taught me not only how to engage but also it taugh taught how to engage but also it taugh taught how to engage but also it taugh taught me the functionality of how men behave. me the functionality of how men behave. me the functionality of how men behave. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Right. Yeah. Particularly, you know what >> Right. Yeah. Particularly, you know what >> Right. Yeah. Particularly, you know what I'm saying, in sports arenas and all I'm saying, in sports arenas and all I'm saying, in sports arenas and all those different things. those different things. those different things. >> And I'm giving that because sometime >> And I'm giving that because sometime >> And I'm giving that because sometime you're going to have to take the risk to you're going to have to take the risk to you're going to have to take the risk to see how other cultures, see how other cultures, see how other cultures, >> other people >> other people >> other people >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And community doesn't always have to be >> And community doesn't always have to be >> And community doesn't always have to be with your church family. with your church family. with your church family. >> Right. Right. Sometime community can be >> Right. Right. Sometime community can be >> Right. Right. Sometime community can be with people who don't even believe as with people who don't even believe as with people who don't even believe as you do you do you do >> but they provide a sense of belonging >> but they provide a sense of belonging >> but they provide a sense of belonging for you because you're not looking for for you because you're not looking for for you because you're not looking for God. You're looking for relationship.

God. You're looking for relationship. God. You're looking for relationship. >> So often time we're trying to find God >> So often time we're trying to find God >> So often time we're trying to find God because somebody else is saved. But do because somebody else is saved. But do because somebody else is saved. But do you know I I see God in so many people you know I I see God in so many people you know I I see God in so many people that are not saved. that are not saved. that are not saved. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Because here's what God would do. He >> Because here's what God would do. He >> Because here's what God would do. He will use certain relationships to will use certain relationships to will use certain relationships to reshape your heart. reshape your heart. reshape your heart. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. Because what we do is we guard our Because what we do is we guard our Because what we do is we guard our heart. heart. heart. And where we should have a border, we And where we should have a border, we And where we should have a border, we have a wall. have a wall. have a wall. >> Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. >> Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. >> Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. >> Where we should have a gate, we have >> Where we should have a gate, we have >> Where we should have a gate, we have this stone wall. And it's just like I'm this stone wall. And it's just like I'm this stone wall. And it's just like I'm not letting people in. It's not about not letting people in. It's not about not letting people in. It's not about letting people in. It's about letting people in. It's about letting people in. It's about understanding that I need this. understanding that I need this. understanding that I need this. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Neurologically, physiologically, >> Neurologically, physiologically, >> Neurologically, physiologically, emotionally, mentally. And it's not emotionally, mentally. And it's not emotionally, mentally. And it's not something that you have to rush in, but something that you have to rush in, but something that you have to rush in, but also allowing yourself to explore. also allowing yourself to explore. also allowing yourself to explore. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Right. So, I started like, and this is a >> Right. So, I started like, and this is a >> Right. So, I started like, and this is a true story, when I lived in Houston, I true story, when I lived in Houston, I true story, when I lived in Houston, I started hanging out with white guys. started hanging out with white guys. started hanging out with white guys. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Right. It was like, you know, it was a >> Right. It was like, you know, it was a >> Right. It was like, you know, it was a white guy. He was like, "Hey, dude, come white guy. He was like, "Hey, dude, come white guy. He was like, "Hey, dude, come on, hang out with us, buddy."

on, hang out with us, buddy." on, hang out with us, buddy." >> Yeah. Totally, man. >> Yeah. Totally, man. >> Yeah. Totally, man. >> Yeah. So, he's like, "We was working out >> Yeah. So, he's like, "We was working out >> Yeah. So, he's like, "We was working out in the gym and um and what he did was, in the gym and um and what he did was, in the gym and um and what he did was, bro, he invited me to lunch. Hey, Jay, bro, he invited me to lunch. Hey, Jay, bro, he invited me to lunch. Hey, Jay, man, you grab lunch?" I was like, you man, you grab lunch?" I was like, you man, you grab lunch?" I was like, you know, I was like, cuz the brother in me know, I was like, cuz the brother in me know, I was like, cuz the brother in me was like, like, what you want? We was like, like, what you want? We was like, like, what you want? We grabbing lunch. grabbing lunch. grabbing lunch. >> Yeah. Yeah, I got you. >> Yeah. Yeah, I got you. >> Yeah. Yeah, I got you. >> Started sitting there and and when we >> Started sitting there and and when we >> Started sitting there and and when we started grabbing lunch, man, he started started grabbing lunch, man, he started started grabbing lunch, man, he started asking me locating questions. asking me locating questions. asking me locating questions. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> What is a locating question? Locating >> What is a locating question? Locating >> What is a locating question? Locating question is a question that challenge question is a question that challenge question is a question that challenge you to identify where you are, you to identify where you are, you to identify where you are, >> man. Wow. >> man. Wow. >> man. Wow. >> He started asking me, "What do you want >> He started asking me, "What do you want >> He started asking me, "What do you want out of life, man?" out of life, man?" out of life, man?" >> Wow. real talk. He's from New York. Um, >> Wow. real talk. He's from New York. Um, >> Wow. real talk. He's from New York. Um, uh, what is it? Uh, I think he went to uh, what is it? Uh, I think he went to uh, what is it? Uh, I think he went to Brown University, Steve. And Brown University, Steve. And Brown University, Steve. And >> he started challenging me. He says, >> he started challenging me. He says, >> he started challenging me. He says, "Man, let's do this again." And I was "Man, let's do this again." And I was "Man, let's do this again." And I was like, "All right." And it began to break like, "All right." And it began to break like, "All right." And it began to break off of my own biases. off of my own biases. off of my own biases. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Because I was like, "This white dude >> Because I was like, "This white dude >> Because I was like, "This white dude ain't going to" But it wasn't about ain't going to" But it wasn't about ain't going to" But it wasn't about >> his race or his color.

>> his race or his color. >> his race or his color. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> He showed interest. >> He showed interest. >> He showed interest. >> Yeah, man. >> Yeah, man. >> Yeah, man. We often can't find community because we We often can't find community because we We often can't find community because we don't show interest. don't show interest. don't show interest. >> Correct. >> Correct. >> Correct. >> And wherever you don't show interest, >> And wherever you don't show interest, >> And wherever you don't show interest, you're not you you you eliminate the the you're not you you you eliminate the the you're not you you you eliminate the the opportunity for uh uh um reciprocity. opportunity for uh uh um reciprocity. opportunity for uh uh um reciprocity. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It's all a risk. >> It's all a risk. >> It's all a risk. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That man became my mentor, my coach for >> That man became my mentor, my coach for >> That man became my mentor, my coach for 10 years. 10 years. 10 years. >> Wow. Wow. >> Wow. Wow. >> Wow. Wow. I was working in a gym training pro I was working in a gym training pro I was working in a gym training pro aletes and what changed it one day he aletes and what changed it one day he aletes and what changed it one day he said is this all said is this all said is this all man man man >> bro it broke me he said is this all you >> bro it broke me he said is this all you >> bro it broke me he said is this all you want out of life want out of life want out of life >> to train athletes and I know your story >> to train athletes and I know your story >> to train athletes and I know your story but is this all you want but is this all you want but is this all you want >> and I said I never thought of that >> and I said I never thought of that >> and I said I never thought of that >> that began to break my fear off of >> that began to break my fear off of >> that began to break my fear off of sitting with men that didn't look like sitting with men that didn't look like sitting with men that didn't look like Wow. Wow. Wow. >> So when I showed up with in rooms with >> So when I showed up with in rooms with >> So when I showed up with in rooms with men that didn't look like me, I never men that didn't look like me, I never men that didn't look like me, I never felt that I was inferior, felt that I was inferior, felt that I was inferior, >> right?

>> right? >> right? >> Because when I was sitting with Steve, >> Because when I was sitting with Steve, >> Because when I was sitting with Steve, he never made me feel like I was black, he never made me feel like I was black, he never made me feel like I was black, but he made me think as a man. but he made me think as a man. but he made me think as a man. >> As a man. >> As a man. >> As a man. >> And sometimes we're looking at, well, >> And sometimes we're looking at, well, >> And sometimes we're looking at, well, he's this or he's that. Well, uh uh she he's this or he's that. Well, uh uh she he's this or he's that. Well, uh uh she doesn't think like me. He doesn't doesn't think like me. He doesn't doesn't think like me. He doesn't believe like me. Rather than saying, how believe like me. Rather than saying, how believe like me. Rather than saying, how are they challenged you as a person? are they challenged you as a person? are they challenged you as a person? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That's what community is about, >> That's what community is about, >> That's what community is about, >> right? And when you become open in that >> right? And when you become open in that >> right? And when you become open in that space, you do this. space, you do this. space, you do this. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You expand. >> You expand. >> You expand. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I was on Sherry Shepard. >> I was on Sherry Shepard. >> I was on Sherry Shepard. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> When I got off in an air, you know, the >> When I got off in an air, you know, the >> When I got off in an air, you know, the first person called me. first person called me. first person called me. >> Who's that? >> Who's that? >> Who's that? >> Steve. >> Steve. >> Steve. >> Steve. Wow. >> Steve. Wow. >> Steve. Wow. >> I saw this 10 years ago, buddy. >> I saw this 10 years ago, buddy. >> I saw this 10 years ago, buddy. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> I said, "Really?" He said, "I just >> I said, "Really?" He said, "I just >> I said, "Really?" He said, "I just wanted you to see what you couldn't at wanted you to see what you couldn't at wanted you to see what you couldn't at that time." that time." that time." >> Man. Man. And again, he started bringing >> Man. Man. And again, he started bringing >> Man. Man. And again, he started bringing me amongst other men. me amongst other men. me amongst other men. And that expanded my ability to engage And that expanded my ability to engage And that expanded my ability to engage with brothers from all walks of life.

with brothers from all walks of life. with brothers from all walks of life. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Black men, white men, Asian men, gay >> Black men, white men, Asian men, gay >> Black men, white men, Asian men, gay men, straight men. It didn't matter what men, straight men. It didn't matter what men, straight men. It didn't matter what they were, they were, they were, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> Because I saw the man in them. >> Because I saw the man in them. >> Because I saw the man in them. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> And that allowed me to speak to parts of >> And that allowed me to speak to parts of >> And that allowed me to speak to parts of them that I knew that I needed spoken to them that I knew that I needed spoken to them that I knew that I needed spoken to me in order to open me up. Wow, man. me in order to open me up. Wow, man. me in order to open me up. Wow, man. >> So now I have white guys that are DM me >> So now I have white guys that are DM me >> So now I have white guys that are DM me >> um that are like, "Hey, man. Dude, your >> um that are like, "Hey, man. Dude, your >> um that are like, "Hey, man. Dude, your message is touching me, man." message is touching me, man." message is touching me, man." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? Cuz again, we all >> You know what I mean? Cuz again, we all >> You know what I mean? Cuz again, we all trying to navigate this thing called trying to navigate this thing called trying to navigate this thing called life. life. life. >> We all are, man. >> We all are, man. >> We all are, man. >> Mental health is not prejudice. >> Mental health is not prejudice. >> Mental health is not prejudice. >> Come on. It's not. >> Come on. It's not. >> Come on. It's not. >> And guess who else ain't prejudice? The >> And guess who else ain't prejudice? The >> And guess who else ain't prejudice? The devil. devil. devil. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> He ain't just messing with us. He's >> He ain't just messing with us. He's >> He ain't just messing with us. He's messing with everybody. messing with everybody. messing with everybody. >> Everybody. >> Everybody. >> Everybody. And and so and if you look at this And and so and if you look at this And and so and if you look at this climate, if you don't have community, I climate, if you don't have community, I climate, if you don't have community, I can assure you that your mental health can assure you that your mental health can assure you that your mental health is not going to be in the best place. is not going to be in the best place. is not going to be in the best place. And I'm not saying go out there and make And I'm not saying go out there and make And I'm not saying go out there and make friends wherever people, but I'm saying friends wherever people, but I'm saying friends wherever people, but I'm saying open yourself up to the possibilities. open yourself up to the possibilities. open yourself up to the possibilities. >> Yeah. And that's one of the things that >> Yeah. And that's one of the things that >> Yeah. And that's one of the things that we're trying to build when we do, you we're trying to build when we do, you we're trying to build when we do, you know, these community groups. One of the know, these community groups. One of the know, these community groups. One of the things we always say is that community things we always say is that community things we always say is that community groups is just the invitation for you to groups is just the invitation for you to groups is just the invitation for you to begin to do life with people o over the begin to do life with people o over the begin to do life with people o over the course of of just six weeks. But in that course of of just six weeks. But in that course of of just six weeks. But in that six weeks and a lot of our community six weeks and a lot of our community six weeks and a lot of our community group leaders are even on the call uh group leaders are even on the call uh group leaders are even on the call uh not on the call Lord watching us right not on the call Lord watching us right not on the call Lord watching us right now streaming.

now streaming. now streaming. >> It is a former call. >> It is a former call. >> It is a former call. >> It I mean it that's true. Um but that >> It I mean it that's true. Um but that >> It I mean it that's true. Um but that but I we receive testimonies like weekly but I we receive testimonies like weekly but I we receive testimonies like weekly man of people who have been in some very man of people who have been in some very man of people who have been in some very low areas but because of community low areas but because of community low areas but because of community groups they've been able just to rise groups they've been able just to rise groups they've been able just to rise man. So like I said I know in the chat man. So like I said I know in the chat man. So like I said I know in the chat that they're going crazy right now. Um that they're going crazy right now. Um that they're going crazy right now. Um any other questions we have out there? any other questions we have out there? any other questions we have out there? We have two more. Two more in the chat. We have two more. Two more in the chat. We have two more. Two more in the chat. Okay. Okay. Okay. >> What are some strategies for mental >> What are some strategies for mental >> What are some strategies for mental noise and reclaiming your sleep? noise and reclaiming your sleep? noise and reclaiming your sleep? >> So, this this is good. Re reclaiming >> So, this this is good. Re reclaiming >> So, this this is good. Re reclaiming your sleep. You have to create an your sleep. You have to create an your sleep. You have to create an environment to allow your mind to rest. environment to allow your mind to rest. environment to allow your mind to rest. >> You have to create an environment. Uh I >> You have to create an environment. Uh I >> You have to create an environment. Uh I I I often talk about what is your your I I often talk about what is your your I I often talk about what is your your where where you work, where you live, where where you work, where you live, where where you work, where you live, where you play is important, man. where you play is important, man. where you play is important, man. as what you eat. as what you eat. as what you eat. >> Um, I'll give this example for me to >> Um, I'll give this example for me to >> Um, I'll give this example for me to shut my mind off. I don't have a TV in shut my mind off. I don't have a TV in shut my mind off. I don't have a TV in my bedroom. my bedroom. my bedroom. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I think that is the worst thing that you >> I think that is the worst thing that you >> I think that is the worst thing that you can do is have a TV in your bedroom.

can do is have a TV in your bedroom. can do is have a TV in your bedroom. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Because if you're sleep if you're going >> Because if you're sleep if you're going >> Because if you're sleep if you're going to sleep with your your your your TV on, to sleep with your your your your TV on, to sleep with your your your your TV on, it doesn't allow your brain to rest, it doesn't allow your brain to rest, it doesn't allow your brain to rest, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> Then two, you have to plan how you going >> Then two, you have to plan how you going >> Then two, you have to plan how you going to enter into rest. to enter into rest. to enter into rest. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I start I listen, I'm heavy on >> I start I listen, I'm heavy on >> I start I listen, I'm heavy on supplementation. Yeah, supplementation. Yeah, supplementation. Yeah, >> I take my magnesium >> I take my magnesium >> I take my magnesium >> at 9:45. >> at 9:45. >> at 9:45. >> Let me tell you something, good brother. >> Let me tell you something, good brother. >> Let me tell you something, good brother. >> The power of God hit me >> The power of God hit me >> The power of God hit me >> and I'm going to bed. >> and I'm going to bed. >> and I'm going to bed. >> By 10:30, >> By 10:30, >> By 10:30, >> I'm out. >> I'm out. >> I'm out. >> Gone. Yeah. >> Gone. Yeah. >> Gone. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I have a sound machine in my bedroom >> I have a sound machine in my bedroom >> I have a sound machine in my bedroom that um it never goes off. You know what that um it never goes off. You know what that um it never goes off. You know what it sounds like? it sounds like? it sounds like? >> Is that that white noise? >> Is that that white noise? >> Is that that white noise? >> I hear the ocean all night. >> I hear the ocean all night. >> I hear the ocean all night. >> All night. Oh my gosh. I never turn it >> All night. Oh my gosh. I never turn it >> All night. Oh my gosh. I never turn it off, off, off, >> man. >> man. >> man. >> If I walk in my bedroom, like if I got >> If I walk in my bedroom, like if I got >> If I walk in my bedroom, like if I got to go get dressed or I got to, you know, to go get dressed or I got to, you know, to go get dressed or I got to, you know, >> the moment I enter into that room, my >> the moment I enter into that room, my >> the moment I enter into that room, my nervous system immediately just nervous system immediately just nervous system immediately just >> calm down. >> calm down. >> calm down. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You have to create an environment of >> You have to create an environment of >> You have to create an environment of rest to get rest.

rest to get rest. rest to get rest. >> Man, that's good. >> Man, that's good. >> Man, that's good. >> That's how you silence the noise, >> That's how you silence the noise, >> That's how you silence the noise, >> man. >> man. >> man. >> And I think for most of us, we think >> And I think for most of us, we think >> And I think for most of us, we think just going to sleep means that you're just going to sleep means that you're just going to sleep means that you're going to get rest. Yeah, going to get rest. Yeah, going to get rest. Yeah, >> sleep is is is is sleep allows you to >> sleep is is is is sleep allows you to >> sleep is is is is sleep allows you to move into an unconscious state, move into an unconscious state, move into an unconscious state, >> but rest has to be intentional >> but rest has to be intentional >> but rest has to be intentional >> where I got to shut my mind off. This is >> where I got to shut my mind off. This is >> where I got to shut my mind off. This is why we're so exhausted right now why we're so exhausted right now why we're so exhausted right now >> as a people. >> as a people. >> as a people. >> This because most of us, we bought in we >> This because most of us, we bought in we >> This because most of us, we bought in we bought into this this this um this grind bought into this this this um this grind bought into this this this um this grind culture like I can't rest, man. Lay your culture like I can't rest, man. Lay your culture like I can't rest, man. Lay your butt down. butt down. butt down. >> Yeah, that's real. In the name of Jesus, >> Yeah, that's real. In the name of Jesus, >> Yeah, that's real. In the name of Jesus, lay down. lay down. lay down. >> Right. Right. >> Right. Right. >> Right. Right. >> Have a cut off time. Yeah. >> Have a cut off time. Yeah. >> Have a cut off time. Yeah. >> For emails. Have a cut off time where >> For emails. Have a cut off time where >> For emails. Have a cut off time where you stop taking calls. Have a cut off you stop taking calls. Have a cut off you stop taking calls. Have a cut off time where you like, you know what I time where you like, you know what I time where you like, you know what I mean? mean? mean? >> I don't want to get you in trouble with >> I don't want to get you in trouble with >> I don't want to get you in trouble with your boss. I saw you looking over there. your boss. I saw you looking over there. your boss. I saw you looking over there. >> But but here here's the other part of >> But but here here's the other part of >> But but here here's the other part of it, right? And I had to learn this. it, right? And I had to learn this. it, right? And I had to learn this. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> If it's not fire, >> If it's not fire, >> If it's not fire, >> come on.

>> come on. >> come on. >> Flood, >> Flood, >> Flood, >> come on. >> come on. >> come on. >> Or blood, it's not emergency. Come on. >> Or blood, it's not emergency. Come on. >> Or blood, it's not emergency. Come on. >> And your crisis is not mine. >> And your crisis is not mine. >> And your crisis is not mine. >> I'm sorry. I'll pray for you. >> I'm sorry. I'll pray for you. >> I'm sorry. I'll pray for you. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> But again, >> But again, >> But again, >> be intentional. So too, whoever asks >> be intentional. So too, whoever asks >> be intentional. So too, whoever asks that question, plan it out. that question, plan it out. that question, plan it out. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You know, an hour before you go to bed, >> You know, an hour before you go to bed, >> You know, an hour before you go to bed, turn the TV off. Like I start playing turn the TV off. Like I start playing turn the TV off. Like I start playing R&B music, bro. When I tell you, you R&B music, bro. When I tell you, you R&B music, bro. When I tell you, you walking CJ, when you come in my house, walking CJ, when you come in my house, walking CJ, when you come in my house, what is it like? what is it like? what is it like? >> It's a whole vibe, ain't it? >> It's a whole vibe, ain't it? >> It's a whole vibe, ain't it? >> Completely peace. >> Completely peace. >> Completely peace. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> All day long. >> All day long. >> All day long. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It's peace. Like you you he comes in >> It's peace. Like you you he comes in >> It's peace. Like you you he comes in there and you sit on that couch, you there and you sit on that couch, you there and you sit on that couch, you going straight to sleep. going straight to sleep. going straight to sleep. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Because I've created an atmosphere of >> Because I've created an atmosphere of >> Because I've created an atmosphere of rest because you know why the world is rest because you know why the world is rest because you know why the world is noisy. noisy. noisy. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> Come on. >> Come on. >> Come on. >> Make your bedroom a place of peace. >> Make your bedroom a place of peace. >> Make your bedroom a place of peace. >> Come on, man. >> Come on, man. >> Come on, man. >> Choose colors that invite peace and that >> Choose colors that invite peace and that >> Choose colors that invite peace and that allows your reg your your system be allows your reg your your system be allows your reg your your system be regulated. I'm in the process right now regulated. I'm in the process right now regulated. I'm in the process right now of a of a of a of a of a of a of becoming part owner of a space that's of becoming part owner of a space that's of becoming part owner of a space that's called the rest spot. And I'm so excited called the rest spot. And I'm so excited called the rest spot. And I'm so excited about it, man, because congratulations.

about it, man, because congratulations. about it, man, because congratulations. >> It is a space where we're creating >> It is a space where we're creating >> It is a space where we're creating opportunity for people to just come and opportunity for people to just come and opportunity for people to just come and rest rest rest >> like to understand the types of rest. >> like to understand the types of rest. >> like to understand the types of rest. There's emotional rest, there's physical There's emotional rest, there's physical There's emotional rest, there's physical rest, there's spiritual rest, all of rest, there's spiritual rest, all of rest, there's spiritual rest, all of these different types of rest. And I these different types of rest. And I these different types of rest. And I think for for us as a people, we think for for us as a people, we think for for us as a people, we sleeping a lot, but nobody's resting. sleeping a lot, but nobody's resting. sleeping a lot, but nobody's resting. >> Nobody's resting, man. >> Nobody's resting, man. >> Nobody's resting, man. >> Nobody's resting. that then that that's >> Nobody's resting. that then that that's >> Nobody's resting. that then that that's a that is a thing that I can say that a that is a thing that I can say that a that is a thing that I can say that that um I' I've learned is that and my that um I' I've learned is that and my that um I' I've learned is that and my grandma used to share this all the time. grandma used to share this all the time. grandma used to share this all the time. She like, "Baby, you you you sleeping She like, "Baby, you you you sleeping She like, "Baby, you you you sleeping but you not getting no rest." She said, but you not getting no rest." She said, but you not getting no rest." She said, "I can see it in your eyes." "I can see it in your eyes." "I can see it in your eyes." >> Oh, the eyes tell a story. >> Oh, the eyes tell a story. >> Oh, the eyes tell a story. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Like that's why I tell people, you can >> Like that's why I tell people, you can >> Like that's why I tell people, you can get nine hours of sleep. get nine hours of sleep. get nine hours of sleep. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And still not feel rested, >> And still not feel rested, >> And still not feel rested, >> man. >> man. >> man. >> Because if that brain is still going >> Because if that brain is still going >> Because if that brain is still going >> and how you turn the brain off remove >> and how you turn the brain off remove >> and how you turn the brain off remove all things that stimulate the brain, all things that stimulate the brain, all things that stimulate the brain, >> man. Like I I I put my phone on the >> man. Like I I I put my phone on the >> man. Like I I I put my phone on the kitchen table. kitchen table. kitchen table. >> Like I I cuz I I work in the mental >> Like I I cuz I I work in the mental >> Like I I cuz I I work in the mental health space. Yeah. health space. Yeah. health space. Yeah. >> So anything that's going to keep my >> So anything that's going to keep my >> So anything that's going to keep my brain up like doom scrolling and all brain up like doom scrolling and all brain up like doom scrolling and all that different type of stuff.

that different type of stuff. that different type of stuff. >> Like you know I like to stroll and like >> Like you know I like to stroll and like >> Like you know I like to stroll and like watch a few funny stuff. But I have a watch a few funny stuff. But I have a watch a few funny stuff. But I have a time limit like all right let me I time limit like all right let me I time limit like all right let me I literally say shut it down. Plug that literally say shut it down. Plug that literally say shut it down. Plug that phone up. Put on the counter phone up. Put on the counter phone up. Put on the counter >> and I tell you I go in my bedroom within >> and I tell you I go in my bedroom within >> and I tell you I go in my bedroom within 10 minutes I'm going into heaven. 10 minutes I'm going into heaven. 10 minutes I'm going into heaven. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Not >> Not >> Not >> listen. I'm in heaven. >> listen. I'm in heaven. >> listen. I'm in heaven. And And And >> let me tell you something. There's >> let me tell you something. There's >> let me tell you something. There's nothing you can do to stop me. nothing you can do to stop me. nothing you can do to stop me. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> When I'm going to sleep. >> When I'm going to sleep. >> When I'm going to sleep. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Again, like create an environment that >> Again, like create an environment that >> Again, like create an environment that will call you into rest. When I walk in will call you into rest. When I walk in will call you into rest. When I walk in my bedroom, brother, I'm excited to get my bedroom, brother, I'm excited to get my bedroom, brother, I'm excited to get in my bed. in my bed. in my bed. >> Absolutely, man. >> Absolutely, man. >> Absolutely, man. >> Well, I'm talking about there's a joy in >> Well, I'm talking about there's a joy in >> Well, I'm talking about there's a joy in my spirit. >> Oh, man. K, what else we got? >> Oh, man. K, what else we got? >> All right. >> All right. >> All right. >> Last one. Earlier you mentioned identity >> Last one. Earlier you mentioned identity >> Last one. Earlier you mentioned identity and who we are meant to be as and who we are meant to be as and who we are meant to be as individuals. What practical steps can individuals. What practical steps can individuals. What practical steps can someone take to discover their identity someone take to discover their identity someone take to discover their identity and better understand who they are and better understand who they are and better understand who they are called to be especially when they're called to be especially when they're called to be especially when they're still trying to figure out they're still trying to figure out they're still trying to figure out they're called as individuals? called as individuals? called as individuals? >> And who asked that question?

>> Don't know. It's okay. That was a good >> Don't know. It's okay. That was a good question though. question though. question though. >> That's a good question. So a lot of >> That's a good question. So a lot of >> That's a good question. So a lot of times what keeps us from stepping into times what keeps us from stepping into times what keeps us from stepping into who we are is we get lost in who we are who we are is we get lost in who we are who we are is we get lost in who we are not. not. not. >> Oh man, that's good. >> Oh man, that's good. >> Oh man, that's good. >> And we get lost in who we are not >> And we get lost in who we are not >> And we get lost in who we are not because that becomes the very fabric of because that becomes the very fabric of because that becomes the very fabric of how we have allowed ourselves to be how we have allowed ourselves to be how we have allowed ourselves to be developed and to be shaped and and and developed and to be shaped and and and developed and to be shaped and and and to be made up. And I think it's critical to be made up. And I think it's critical to be made up. And I think it's critical for you to begin to think about who you for you to begin to think about who you for you to begin to think about who you want to become. want to become. want to become. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Write I'm big on writing things down. >> Write I'm big on writing things down. >> Write I'm big on writing things down. Like when I was in practice, man, I'm Like when I was in practice, man, I'm Like when I was in practice, man, I'm big on telling people, "Bring your big on telling people, "Bring your big on telling people, "Bring your notepad to therapy. notepad to therapy. notepad to therapy. >> Let's write >> Let's write >> Let's write >> write down." Like going back to Steve, >> write down." Like going back to Steve, >> write down." Like going back to Steve, one of the things is that I didn't know one of the things is that I didn't know one of the things is that I didn't know who I wanted to be, but I started who I wanted to be, but I started who I wanted to be, but I started getting these I started asking these getting these I started asking these getting these I started asking these questions. What do you want? questions. What do you want? questions. What do you want? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> What do you want out of life? >> What do you want out of life? >> What do you want out of life? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I never get Steve said, "Draw three >> I never get Steve said, "Draw three >> I never get Steve said, "Draw three circles." And he says, "In these three circles." And he says, "In these three circles." And he says, "In these three circles, I want you to write out your circles, I want you to write out your circles, I want you to write out your career. I want you to write out like career. I want you to write out like career. I want you to write out like what you enjoy and then to write out what you enjoy and then to write out what you enjoy and then to write out what's going to pay you.

what's going to pay you. what's going to pay you. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I wrote all these different things. >> And I wrote all these different things. >> And I wrote all these different things. At the time I was acting. I was doing At the time I was acting. I was doing At the time I was acting. I was doing fitness modeling. Um I was had my fitness modeling. Um I was had my fitness modeling. Um I was had my training business. And then I also was training business. And then I also was training business. And then I also was writing a book. writing a book. writing a book. >> And he said, "Here's what I want you to >> And he said, "Here's what I want you to >> And he said, "Here's what I want you to do is I want you to have these, it was do is I want you to have these, it was do is I want you to have these, it was three circles, right? One here, one three circles, right? One here, one three circles, right? One here, one here, one there. But he said eventually here, one there. But he said eventually here, one there. But he said eventually I want you to see the circles do this. I want you to see the circles do this. I want you to see the circles do this. The more the circles do this, the more The more the circles do this, the more The more the circles do this, the more you see who you are. you see who you are. you see who you are. >> And you have to throw it all on the >> And you have to throw it all on the >> And you have to throw it all on the table and just start picking up pieces table and just start picking up pieces table and just start picking up pieces little one by one. little one by one. little one by one. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> we are often looking for uh be because >> we are often looking for uh be because >> we are often looking for uh be because you know you know you know it can be it can feel so overwhelming to it can be it can feel so overwhelming to it can be it can feel so overwhelming to find out who you are today. find out who you are today. find out who you are today. >> Yeah. And what I encourage young people, >> Yeah. And what I encourage young people, >> Yeah. And what I encourage young people, particularly Gen Z, particularly Gen Z, particularly Gen Z, >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> take the journey of self-discovery. >> take the journey of self-discovery. >> take the journey of self-discovery. >> That's real. >> That's real. >> That's real. >> Don't rush it. Life is not going >> Don't rush it. Life is not going >> Don't rush it. Life is not going nowhere. nowhere. nowhere. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Allow yourself to fill it out. Allow >> Allow yourself to fill it out. Allow >> Allow yourself to fill it out. Allow yourself to make mistakes. Allow yourself to make mistakes. Allow yourself to make mistakes. Allow yourself um to travel. Allow yourself to yourself um to travel. Allow yourself to yourself um to travel. Allow yourself to to to do new things. I can tell you, to to do new things. I can tell you, to to do new things. I can tell you, brother, I acted.

brother, I acted. brother, I acted. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> When I was done playing ball, I acted. I >> When I was done playing ball, I acted. I >> When I was done playing ball, I acted. I went to acting school. Um, I model and went to acting school. Um, I model and went to acting school. Um, I model and people's like, "Man, you doing I was people's like, "Man, you doing I was people's like, "Man, you doing I was just feeling different things to see just feeling different things to see just feeling different things to see what it was." what it was." what it was." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And every time I touch something, I >> And every time I touch something, I >> And every time I touch something, I learned something different about learned something different about learned something different about myself. Whether I did it for a long time myself. Whether I did it for a long time myself. Whether I did it for a long time or not, or not, or not, >> I discover something. >> I discover something. >> I discover something. >> So, the way to your identity is to feel >> So, the way to your identity is to feel >> So, the way to your identity is to feel your way through. your way through. your way through. >> Mhm. I I often like to to to elucidate >> Mhm. I I often like to to to elucidate >> Mhm. I I often like to to to elucidate it in a way to walk into a dark room it in a way to walk into a dark room it in a way to walk into a dark room where you just pick up things and your where you just pick up things and your where you just pick up things and your eyes are closed and you just feel for it eyes are closed and you just feel for it eyes are closed and you just feel for it and you're like, "Oh, what is this?" and you're like, "Oh, what is this?" and you're like, "Oh, what is this?" >> And often times your brain will connect >> And often times your brain will connect >> And often times your brain will connect with something and you like with something and you like with something and you like >> this is it. >> this is it. >> this is it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Now, my father's a pastor. >> Now, my father's a pastor. >> Now, my father's a pastor. I never wanted to be a speaker. I never wanted to be a speaker. I never wanted to be a speaker. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> I tell this story often. It was a little >> I tell this story often. It was a little >> I tell this story often. It was a little white kid who went home and told his mom white kid who went home and told his mom white kid who went home and told his mom this talk that I gave him at the gym cuz this talk that I gave him at the gym cuz this talk that I gave him at the gym cuz I was training all these kids. And his I was training all these kids. And his I was training all these kids. And his mom came back, "My boy said, "You're a mom came back, "My boy said, "You're a mom came back, "My boy said, "You're a good motivational speaker. good motivational speaker. good motivational speaker. >> You should go into speaking." And I was >> You should go into speaking." And I was >> You should go into speaking." And I was like, "Oh no, lady. That ain't my thing, like, "Oh no, lady. That ain't my thing, like, "Oh no, lady. That ain't my thing, man."

man." man." >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Literally, that's what I said. >> Literally, that's what I said. >> Literally, that's what I said. >> And a friend of mine said, "Hey Jay, we >> And a friend of mine said, "Hey Jay, we >> And a friend of mine said, "Hey Jay, we looking for uh somebody to give a a looking for uh somebody to give a a looking for uh somebody to give a a commencement speech to a continuing commencement speech to a continuing commencement speech to a continuing education school." I was like, "Oh, education school." I was like, "Oh, education school." I was like, "Oh, okay, cool." okay, cool." okay, cool." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> She was like, "Well, the only thing is >> She was like, "Well, the only thing is >> She was like, "Well, the only thing is not a big class. It's continuing not a big class. It's continuing not a big class. It's continuing education school. They only had like six education school. They only had like six education school. They only had like six students. students. students. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I said, "Oh, it's not bad." >> I said, "Oh, it's not bad." >> I said, "Oh, it's not bad." >> So, I drove out there, gave a talk. Kids >> So, I drove out there, gave a talk. Kids >> So, I drove out there, gave a talk. Kids love it. They paid me $25 gift card to love it. They paid me $25 gift card to love it. They paid me $25 gift card to Chili and a bag of candy. Chili and a bag of candy. Chili and a bag of candy. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Now, I went to Chili and had a ball. >> Now, I went to Chili and had a ball. >> Now, I went to Chili and had a ball. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I'm a single man and it was two for 20. >> I'm a single man and it was two for 20. >> I'm a single man and it was two for 20. >> Amen. A man, I miss them days. >> Amen. A man, I miss them days. >> Amen. A man, I miss them days. >> Listen, good brother. You talking about >> Listen, good brother. You talking about >> Listen, good brother. You talking about a time a time was had. a time a time was had. a time a time was had. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Here's what I discovered. >> Here's what I discovered. >> Here's what I discovered. >> Talking to those six kids, I saw me. >> Talking to those six kids, I saw me. >> Talking to those six kids, I saw me. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. In the midst of seeing me, I realized In the midst of seeing me, I realized In the midst of seeing me, I realized that not only did I just want to speak, that not only did I just want to speak, that not only did I just want to speak, I wanted to give something, I wanted to give something, I wanted to give something, >> man. >> man. >> man. >> Now, what I became, that was God's >> Now, what I became, that was God's >> Now, what I became, that was God's doing. doing. doing. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But it started with just taking these >> But it started with just taking these >> But it started with just taking these chances. chances. chances. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And just allowing myself to just >> And just allowing myself to just >> And just allowing myself to just explore. explore. explore. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You're never going to know what works. >> You're never going to know what works. >> You're never going to know what works. >> Yeah. You never know who you're going to >> Yeah. You never know who you're going to >> Yeah. You never know who you're going to become, become, become, but take the risk. Take the journey. but take the risk. Take the journey. but take the risk. Take the journey. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> When you really think about the story of >> When you really think about the story of >> When you really think about the story of Abraham, it was him taking a journey. He Abraham, it was him taking a journey. He Abraham, it was him taking a journey. He didn't know what God was going to really didn't know what God was going to really didn't know what God was going to really do with him. do with him. do with him. >> Correct. >> Correct. >> Correct. >> All he had was a word to go. >> All he had was a word to go. >> All he had was a word to go. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And as he went, he began to discover >> And as he went, he began to discover >> And as he went, he began to discover these different things. I'm going to these different things. I'm going to these different things. I'm going to make your father many nations. make your father many nations. make your father many nations. >> Man, >> Man, >> Man, >> like he didn't tell him that in the >> like he didn't tell him that in the >> like he didn't tell him that in the beginning. beginning. beginning. >> Correct. He pieced it to where no, I'm >> Correct. He pieced it to where no, I'm >> Correct. He pieced it to where no, I'm going to give you this end dosage going to give you this end dosage going to give you this end dosage because if I tell you all of it, it'll because if I tell you all of it, it'll because if I tell you all of it, it'll kill you. kill you. kill you. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Because it'll be an overload to your >> Because it'll be an overload to your >> Because it'll be an overload to your brain and you'll be overly stimulated. brain and you'll be overly stimulated. brain and you'll be overly stimulated. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And so what I hope whoever that that >> And so what I hope whoever that that >> And so what I hope whoever that that person is, allow yourself to go on the person is, allow yourself to go on the person is, allow yourself to go on the journey. journey. journey. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Make the mistakes like, oh, I tried >> Make the mistakes like, oh, I tried >> Make the mistakes like, oh, I tried this, it didn't work out.

this, it didn't work out. this, it didn't work out. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You know, oh, I went back and, you know, >> You know, oh, I went back and, you know, >> You know, oh, I went back and, you know, I took this job and but I learned how to I took this job and but I learned how to I took this job and but I learned how to do this. do this. do this. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I'm not working at the job. And maybe >> I'm not working at the job. And maybe >> I'm not working at the job. And maybe what you learn over here works over what you learn over here works over what you learn over here works over there. there. there. >> Yeah. Because I watched literally Dr. J, >> Yeah. Because I watched literally Dr. J, >> Yeah. Because I watched literally Dr. J, every part of your life that you every part of your life that you every part of your life that you mentioned, what you were doing before, mentioned, what you were doing before, mentioned, what you were doing before, you were mentioning, you acted, you you were mentioning, you acted, you you were mentioning, you acted, you modeled. Each one of those areas you've modeled. Each one of those areas you've modeled. Each one of those areas you've had to revisit at some point. Even over had to revisit at some point. Even over had to revisit at some point. Even over the last year that I that you know, the last year that I that you know, the last year that I that you know, we've been watching we've been watching we've been watching >> cuz you use Here's the thing, bro. You >> cuz you use Here's the thing, bro. You >> cuz you use Here's the thing, bro. You use all of it. use all of it. use all of it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You use all of it. >> You use all of it. >> You use all of it. >> Yeah. What I learned in acting >> Yeah. What I learned in acting >> Yeah. What I learned in acting is I learn how to storyt tell. is I learn how to storyt tell. is I learn how to storyt tell. >> Wow. Yeah. >> Wow. Yeah. >> Wow. Yeah. >> I learn how to become void of myself and >> I learn how to become void of myself and >> I learn how to become void of myself and fill the character, fill the character, fill the character, >> man. >> man. >> man. >> Tell you how that works. >> Tell you how that works. >> Tell you how that works. >> When I get up to speak, I know how to >> When I get up to speak, I know how to >> When I get up to speak, I know how to move out of the way and let God do his move out of the way and let God do his move out of the way and let God do his job. job. job. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You see, it all works together. >> You see, it all works together. >> You see, it all works together. >> All works together. Man, >> All works together. Man, >> All works together. Man, >> what I learned in modeling was that the >> what I learned in modeling was that the >> what I learned in modeling was that the discipline discipline discipline >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Like cuz we was on strict eating >> Like cuz we was on strict eating >> Like cuz we was on strict eating regimens and all those different things.

regimens and all those different things. regimens and all those different things. How does that discipline work? How does that discipline work? How does that discipline work? >> You learn how to finish. >> You learn how to finish. >> You learn how to finish. >> You learn how to be consistent. And you >> You learn how to be consistent. And you >> You learn how to be consistent. And you learn how to be persistent. learn how to be persistent. learn how to be persistent. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That doesn't mean that every day is >> That doesn't mean that every day is >> That doesn't mean that every day is going to be the same, but you learn how going to be the same, but you learn how going to be the same, but you learn how to say, you know what, let me stay with to say, you know what, let me stay with to say, you know what, let me stay with this and see what the end is going to this and see what the end is going to this and see what the end is going to be. be. be. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> You know what I mean? So there's >> You know what I mean? So there's >> You know what I mean? So there's different things that you can extract different things that you can extract different things that you can extract from different experience in life that from different experience in life that from different experience in life that will help you become and help you will help you become and help you will help you become and help you selfactualize because in order to become selfactualize because in order to become selfactualize because in order to become who God has called you to be you got to who God has called you to be you got to who God has called you to be you got to discover your own potential. discover your own potential. discover your own potential. >> Got to man got to >> Got to man got to >> Got to man got to >> you got to discover it. And once you >> you got to discover it. And once you >> you got to discover it. And once you discover it then you got to activate. discover it then you got to activate. discover it then you got to activate. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And you activate from the tenants that >> And you activate from the tenants that >> And you activate from the tenants that you have acquired from all of your you have acquired from all of your you have acquired from all of your experiences. experiences. experiences. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And that's what life is really about. >> And that's what life is really about. >> And that's what life is really about. And then you allow God to do his thing. And then you allow God to do his thing. And then you allow God to do his thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> And what God did one day with my >> And what God did one day with my >> And what God did one day with my consistency and with my commitment to consistency and with my commitment to consistency and with my commitment to going back to school and all those going back to school and all those going back to school and all those different things, the pandemic happened. different things, the pandemic happened. different things, the pandemic happened. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And all of a sudden, there was a black >> And all of a sudden, there was a black >> And all of a sudden, there was a black man talking about mental health and what man talking about mental health and what man talking about mental health and what >> being isolated can do to the brain and >> being isolated can do to the brain and >> being isolated can do to the brain and all that different stuff. And I did one all that different stuff. And I did one all that different stuff. And I did one interview and and interview and and interview and and >> it took off, man.

>> it took off, man. >> it took off, man. >> And it took off. >> And it took off. >> And it took off. >> And even in the process of all of this, >> And even in the process of all of this, >> And even in the process of all of this, I kept learning. I kept learning. I kept learning. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I'm still discovering. I've discovered >> I'm still discovering. I've discovered >> I'm still discovering. I've discovered so much about myself at 44. I've so much about myself at 44. I've so much about myself at 44. I've discovered that I really have gotten discovered that I really have gotten discovered that I really have gotten delivered from people. delivered from people. delivered from people. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Oh god, you get delivered from people, >> Oh god, you get delivered from people, >> Oh god, you get delivered from people, boy, it'll free you, boy, it'll free you, boy, it'll free you, >> man. That's a whole another hour worth >> man. That's a whole another hour worth >> man. That's a whole another hour worth of uh of uh of uh but it's real, man. but it's real, man. but it's real, man. >> But but again, allowing yourself >> But but again, allowing yourself >> But but again, allowing yourself >> That's so real. >> That's so real. >> That's so real. >> To continue to and from a spiritual um >> To continue to and from a spiritual um >> To continue to and from a spiritual um perspective, I'll end with this. Stay on perspective, I'll end with this. Stay on perspective, I'll end with this. Stay on the potter's wheel. the potter's wheel. the potter's wheel. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> that's real. >> that's real. >> that's real. >> We're so ready to get off the wheel, >> We're so ready to get off the wheel, >> We're so ready to get off the wheel, >> right? I'm a finished product, >> right? I'm a finished product, >> right? I'm a finished product, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> I finally got there. >> I finally got there. >> I finally got there. >> Stay on the wheel and let him keep >> Stay on the wheel and let him keep >> Stay on the wheel and let him keep making you. making you. making you. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You'll never get there. >> You'll never get there. >> You'll never get there. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But that doesn't mean that you can't >> But that doesn't mean that you can't >> But that doesn't mean that you can't make a commitment to keep pursuing make a commitment to keep pursuing make a commitment to keep pursuing there. there. there. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> There is death. >> There is death. >> There is death. >> Mhm. Mhm. >> Mhm. Mhm. >> Mhm. Mhm. >> That's what there is. >> That's what there is. >> That's what there is. >> Mhm. Mhm. >> Mhm. Mhm. >> Mhm. Mhm. >> And so until that happened for me, I'm >> And so until that happened for me, I'm >> And so until that happened for me, I'm going to keep discovering parts of me going to keep discovering parts of me going to keep discovering parts of me like, you know what? I'm doing this like, you know what? I'm doing this like, you know what? I'm doing this better than I did at 43.

better than I did at 43. better than I did at 43. >> Yeah. I'm not competing with 25y old >> Yeah. I'm not competing with 25y old >> Yeah. I'm not competing with 25y old Jay, right? Jay, right? Jay, right? >> And the problem with most people is >> And the problem with most people is >> And the problem with most people is they're competing with past versions of they're competing with past versions of they're competing with past versions of themselves. themselves. themselves. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Let that version go and discover a new >> Let that version go and discover a new >> Let that version go and discover a new version of yourself. version of yourself. version of yourself. >> Cuz again, we we quickly talk about >> Cuz again, we we quickly talk about >> Cuz again, we we quickly talk about behold, I am a new creature. What does behold, I am a new creature. What does behold, I am a new creature. What does that mean? that mean? that mean? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> To experience new, you have to move into >> To experience new, you have to move into >> To experience new, you have to move into newness. Newness of thinking, newness of newness. Newness of thinking, newness of newness. Newness of thinking, newness of of of of functioning, and then just a of of of functioning, and then just a of of of functioning, and then just a newness of processing. newness of processing. newness of processing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> How are you handling your life at this >> How are you handling your life at this >> How are you handling your life at this stage? stage? stage? >> You're not in college anymore. What are >> You're not in college anymore. What are >> You're not in college anymore. What are you doing different? you doing different? you doing different? >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> You know, so yeah, man. This this has >> You know, so yeah, man. This this has >> You know, so yeah, man. This this has been good, brother. been good, brother. been good, brother. >> No, this has been great, man. I want to >> No, this has been great, man. I want to >> No, this has been great, man. I want to ask you to just pray real quick. You ask you to just pray real quick. You ask you to just pray real quick. You know, kind of kind of pray us out. Um, know, kind of kind of pray us out. Um, know, kind of kind of pray us out. Um, I'm going to provide some more I'm going to provide some more I'm going to provide some more information, but I really feel led to information, but I really feel led to information, but I really feel led to just ask you to just lead us in a word just ask you to just lead us in a word just ask you to just lead us in a word of prayer, man, for those who may be of prayer, man, for those who may be of prayer, man, for those who may be dealing with some things. dealing with some things. dealing with some things. >> Yes. Lord, we thank you for this >> Yes. Lord, we thank you for this >> Yes. Lord, we thank you for this opportunity. Father, we thank you for opportunity. Father, we thank you for opportunity. Father, we thank you for the overseers of this house, Father. Um, the overseers of this house, Father. Um, the overseers of this house, Father. Um, I would be remiss to not say that we I would be remiss to not say that we I would be remiss to not say that we have the best bishop, uh, uh, the best have the best bishop, uh, uh, the best have the best bishop, uh, uh, the best first lady, the the best ministry team, first lady, the the best ministry team, first lady, the the best ministry team, God, on this side of of heaven. And God, God, on this side of of heaven. And God, God, on this side of of heaven. And God, we thank you for the leaders and for we thank you for the leaders and for we thank you for the leaders and for their vision because without them, we're their vision because without them, we're their vision because without them, we're not sitting here. Now, Father, I thank not sitting here. Now, Father, I thank not sitting here. Now, Father, I thank you for those that are online tonight.

you for those that are online tonight. you for those that are online tonight. Um, and and maybe they they didn't type Um, and and maybe they they didn't type Um, and and maybe they they didn't type out a question. Maybe they have a out a question. Maybe they have a out a question. Maybe they have a question in their mind. I thank you, question in their mind. I thank you, question in their mind. I thank you, God, that you allow that their question God, that you allow that their question God, that you allow that their question find an answer through their willingness find an answer through their willingness find an answer through their willingness to pursue the other side. Because the to pursue the other side. Because the to pursue the other side. Because the only way through, Father, is a only way through, Father, is a only way through, Father, is a commitment to pursue how we get to the commitment to pursue how we get to the commitment to pursue how we get to the other side. Now, Father, I speak to other side. Now, Father, I speak to other side. Now, Father, I speak to those that may be dealing with thoughts those that may be dealing with thoughts those that may be dealing with thoughts of depression, or they may be in a of depression, or they may be in a of depression, or they may be in a depressed state, thoughts of suicide, or depressed state, thoughts of suicide, or depressed state, thoughts of suicide, or they may be experiencing suicidal they may be experiencing suicidal they may be experiencing suicidal ideiation, thoughts of anxiety. They may ideiation, thoughts of anxiety. They may ideiation, thoughts of anxiety. They may be feeling angst and concern about the be feeling angst and concern about the be feeling angst and concern about the future because of the political climate, future because of the political climate, future because of the political climate, because of all the things that are because of all the things that are because of all the things that are happening in their neighborhood and happening in their neighborhood and happening in their neighborhood and around them. Father, those that may be around them. Father, those that may be around them. Father, those that may be dealing with eating disorders, Father, dealing with eating disorders, Father, dealing with eating disorders, Father, those that may be dealing with a sleep those that may be dealing with a sleep those that may be dealing with a sleep disorder, God, sleep apnnea, Father, disorder, God, sleep apnnea, Father, disorder, God, sleep apnnea, Father, God, I be I I pray, God, that they find God, I be I I pray, God, that they find God, I be I I pray, God, that they find a community, Father, a community, Father, a community, Father, >> a ecosystem that can be resourceful >> a ecosystem that can be resourceful >> a ecosystem that can be resourceful enough, God, to allow them to feel enough, God, to allow them to feel enough, God, to allow them to feel supported as they're being aided with supported as they're being aided with supported as they're being aided with the help that they need. Whether that's the help that they need. Whether that's the help that they need. Whether that's through medication, whether that's through medication, whether that's through medication, whether that's through counseling, whether that's through counseling, whether that's through counseling, whether that's through mentorship, coaching, or a through mentorship, coaching, or a through mentorship, coaching, or a support group, Father, because support group, Father, because support group, Father, because we need community, God, you made us in we need community, God, you made us in we need community, God, you made us in community. And I speak to their minds. I community. And I speak to their minds. I community. And I speak to their minds. I speak to their hearts. And I speak to speak to their hearts. And I speak to speak to their hearts. And I speak to their spirits that they're encouraged to their spirits that they're encouraged to their spirits that they're encouraged to know that you do not want them to abort know that you do not want them to abort know that you do not want them to abort their humanity

their humanity their humanity >> for the sake of their spirituality. that >> for the sake of their spirituality. that >> for the sake of their spirituality. that they can hold both. That they can they can hold both. That they can they can hold both. That they can believe you while still seeking to believe you while still seeking to believe you while still seeking to understand what their trauma has caused. understand what their trauma has caused. understand what their trauma has caused. They can believe you while still knowing They can believe you while still knowing They can believe you while still knowing that this happened and it's caused me to that this happened and it's caused me to that this happened and it's caused me to react in this way. They can believe you react in this way. They can believe you react in this way. They can believe you while still knowing that they need to while still knowing that they need to while still knowing that they need to talk to a therapist or counselor, a talk to a therapist or counselor, a talk to a therapist or counselor, a psychologist. And knowing God that their psychologist. And knowing God that their psychologist. And knowing God that their issues issues issues >> is not a problem to you. >> is not a problem to you. >> is not a problem to you. >> Yes, Lord. >> Yes, Lord. >> Yes, Lord. >> Their issue doesn't move them out of >> Their issue doesn't move them out of >> Their issue doesn't move them out of your will. their issue, God, doesn't uh your will. their issue, God, doesn't uh your will. their issue, God, doesn't uh uh uh remove the promise that you have uh uh remove the promise that you have uh uh remove the promise that you have for them. For you know the thoughts that for them. For you know the thoughts that for them. For you know the thoughts that you have toward them, God, and that is you have toward them, God, and that is you have toward them, God, and that is to prosper them, to give them a good to prosper them, to give them a good to prosper them, to give them a good end. And God, I speak to every person, end. And God, I speak to every person, end. And God, I speak to every person, God, that they are uplifted in their God, that they are uplifted in their God, that they are uplifted in their thoughts because the enemy loves to come thoughts because the enemy loves to come thoughts because the enemy loves to come and toy with our minds. I speak to the and toy with our minds. I speak to the and toy with our minds. I speak to the minds and rebuke any strongholds in the minds and rebuke any strongholds in the minds and rebuke any strongholds in the name of Jesus.

name of Jesus. name of Jesus. And I ask that you loose them, Father. And I ask that you loose them, Father. And I ask that you loose them, Father. >> And I thank you, God, for a church that >> And I thank you, God, for a church that >> And I thank you, God, for a church that provides resources, a church that provides resources, a church that provides resources, a church that provides opportunities for them to provides opportunities for them to provides opportunities for them to understand that their humanity matters understand that their humanity matters understand that their humanity matters as much as their walk with you. And God, as much as their walk with you. And God, as much as their walk with you. And God, we thank you for this opportunity. We we thank you for this opportunity. We we thank you for this opportunity. We thank you, God, for giving us breath thank you, God, for giving us breath thank you, God, for giving us breath because as long as we here, we have an because as long as we here, we have an because as long as we here, we have an opportunity to rewrite a new story with opportunity to rewrite a new story with opportunity to rewrite a new story with you. And we thank you in Jesus name. you. And we thank you in Jesus name. you. And we thank you in Jesus name. Amen. Amen. Amen. >> Amen. Listen, clap your hands in the >> Amen. Listen, clap your hands in the >> Amen. Listen, clap your hands in the chat. Throw some emojis in there. If you chat. Throw some emojis in there. If you chat. Throw some emojis in there. If you en enjoy Dr. J. Listen, he's doing some en enjoy Dr. J. Listen, he's doing some en enjoy Dr. J. Listen, he's doing some amazing things. Be sure that you're amazing things. Be sure that you're amazing things. Be sure that you're following him. Uh Dr. Jay is someone who following him. Uh Dr. Jay is someone who following him. Uh Dr. Jay is someone who Now, I'm going to tell you this old Now, I'm going to tell you this old Now, I'm going to tell you this old joke. I worked out with Dr. J one time joke. I worked out with Dr. J one time joke. I worked out with Dr. J one time and y'all know I love working out. I and y'all know I love working out. I and y'all know I love working out. I have never stepped foot in the gym with have never stepped foot in the gym with have never stepped foot in the gym with him again. My legs were hurting him again. My legs were hurting him again. My legs were hurting >> cuz see, hey man, when you work out >> cuz see, hey man, when you work out >> cuz see, hey man, when you work out with, you know, NFL type people, it's with, you know, NFL type people, it's with, you know, NFL type people, it's different than the stuff that we, you different than the stuff that we, you different than the stuff that we, you know, know, know, >> good for your mental health, brother.

>> good for your mental health, brother. >> good for your mental health, brother. >> It was good for my mental health. You >> It was good for my mental health. You >> It was good for my mental health. You and Joel like to kill me, but never and Joel like to kill me, but never and Joel like to kill me, but never again. No, I'm playing. But no, man, we again. No, I'm playing. But no, man, we again. No, I'm playing. But no, man, we love you here at the Potter House. You love you here at the Potter House. You love you here at the Potter House. You know that you are family. And don't know that you are family. And don't know that you are family. And don't forget, we have our ECurch mixer in June forget, we have our ECurch mixer in June forget, we have our ECurch mixer in June coming up. I believe June 30th is that coming up. I believe June 30th is that coming up. I believe June 30th is that date. So, I want you to jot that down on date. So, I want you to jot that down on date. So, I want you to jot that down on your calendar. We are going to have an your calendar. We are going to have an your calendar. We are going to have an amazing time because during that mixer, amazing time because during that mixer, amazing time because during that mixer, we're gonna be celebrating our 30th we're gonna be celebrating our 30th we're gonna be celebrating our 30th church anniversary, y'all. I can't wait. church anniversary, y'all. I can't wait. church anniversary, y'all. I can't wait. I can't wait. So, be in tune with us on I can't wait. So, be in tune with us on I can't wait. So, be in tune with us on that night. But other than that, I love that night. But other than that, I love that night. But other than that, I love y'all and we will see y'all in the next y'all and we will see y'all in the next y'all and we will see y'all in the next Mixer. Drop some emojis. Let us know you Mixer. Drop some emojis. Let us know you Mixer. Drop some emojis. Let us know you love us. We'll see y'all soon. All love us. We'll see y'all soon. All love us. We'll see y'all soon. All right. Peace.