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Thanks so much for joining us for the If Thanks so much for joining us for the If I Had More Time podcast. So glad you're I Had More Time podcast. So glad you're I Had More Time podcast. So glad you're with us today. My name is Liz Garcia. with us today. My name is Liz Garcia. with us today. My name is Liz Garcia. I'll be your host. This feels like back I'll be your host. This feels like back I'll be your host. This feels like back to school. I'm really excited cuz Eric's to school. I'm really excited cuz Eric's to school. I'm really excited cuz Eric's back. back. back. >> I'm so I'm I >> I'm so I'm I >> I'm so I'm I walked in I was like I'm so glad to be walked in I was like I'm so glad to be walked in I was like I'm so glad to be doing this again. It's just it's great doing this again. It's just it's great doing this again. It's just it's great to to to have conversations post the message and have conversations post the message and have conversations post the message and also with great people and it's good to also with great people and it's good to also with great people and it's good to have Conant with us. have Conant with us. have Conant with us. >> Yeah, Stephen Conant. >> Yeah, Stephen Conant. >> Yeah, Stephen Conant. >> Yes, right right right. >> Yes, right right right. >> Yes, right right right. >> Sometimes dudes call each other by last >> Sometimes dudes call each other by last >> Sometimes dudes call each other by last names for I don't even know why. names for I don't even know why. names for I don't even know why. >> And then unless you're Steve Bang Lee, >> And then unless you're Steve Bang Lee, >> And then unless you're Steve Bang Lee, we call you by your middle name, which we call you by your middle name, which we call you by your middle name, which makes no sense, but we do that. makes no sense, but we do that. makes no sense, but we do that. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Yeah, I it's it's funny because his >> Yeah, I it's it's funny because his >> Yeah, I it's it's funny because his wife's name is Angela and sometimes K wife's name is Angela and sometimes K wife's name is Angela and sometimes K will be like so is it Angela Bang? I'm will be like so is it Angela Bang? I'm will be like so is it Angela Bang? I'm like no baby, no. like no baby, no. like no baby, no. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> His last name's Lee. >> His last name's Lee. >> His last name's Lee. >> It's such a fair question. >> It's such a fair question. >> It's such a fair question. >> a fair question. >> a fair question. >> a fair question. >> at K. We should laugh at ourselves for >> at K. We should laugh at ourselves for >> at K. We should laugh at ourselves for that. that. that. >> Yeah, we we created the problem. >> Yeah, we we created the problem. >> Yeah, we we created the problem. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> We have Stephen Conant here and he >> We have Stephen Conant here and he >> We have Stephen Conant here and he >> Or Conant. >> Or Conant. >> Or Conant. >> Conant. Can you >> Conant. Can you >> Conant. Can you Can you settle this? It's Conant. Can you settle this? It's Conant. Can you settle this? It's Conant. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> I It's It's not Conant. It's Conant.

>> I It's It's not Conant. It's Conant. >> I It's It's not Conant. It's Conant. It's Conant. It's Conant. It's Conant. >> Conant not Conant. >> Conant not Conant. >> Conant not Conant. >> No no no, it's >> No no no, it's >> No no no, it's It is if I It is if I It is if I >> I haven't been ready. I haven't >> I haven't been ready. I haven't >> I haven't been ready. I haven't >> Eric is the best at pronunciation. >> Eric is the best at pronunciation. >> Eric is the best at pronunciation. >> up so many names. The fact that you just >> up so many names. The fact that you just >> up so many names. The fact that you just affirmed how I said your name is a affirmed how I said your name is a affirmed how I said your name is a glorious day. glorious day. glorious day. >> Remember what you're wearing. >> Remember what you're wearing. >> Remember what you're wearing. >> You're at the altar right now. Right >> You're at the altar right now. Right >> You're at the altar right now. Right now. I just think it's Conant. Like ant. now. I just think it's Conant. Like ant. now. I just think it's Conant. Like ant. Like think ant at the end. Conant. Like think ant at the end. Conant. Like think ant at the end. Conant. >> Conant. >> Conant. >> Conant. >> Conant. We say it a little faster. Don't >> Conant. We say it a little faster. Don't >> Conant. We say it a little faster. Don't go cone go cone go cone >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> ant. >> ant. >> ant. Conant. Conant. Conant. >> You know I'm working on my >> You know I'm working on my >> You know I'm working on my pronunciation. pronunciation. pronunciation. >> So just so you Not everybody knows you. >> So just so you Not everybody knows you. >> So just so you Not everybody knows you. So if you were at Mariners HB, So if you were at Mariners HB, So if you were at Mariners HB, Huntington Beach, a lot of people that Huntington Beach, a lot of people that Huntington Beach, a lot of people that know you there, you lead at Thursday know you there, you lead at Thursday know you there, you lead at Thursday nights at Mariners Irvine some. You lead nights at Mariners Irvine some. You lead nights at Mariners Irvine some. You lead sometimes in the weekend at at Saturday sometimes in the weekend at at Saturday sometimes in the weekend at at Saturday Sunday at Mariners Irvine. And then you Sunday at Mariners Irvine. And then you Sunday at Mariners Irvine. And then you hop around to a whole lot of hop around to a whole lot of hop around to a whole lot of congregations. You may just like Easter congregations. You may just like Easter congregations. You may just like Easter Sunday morning we had we threw in the Sunday morning we had we threw in the Sunday morning we had we threw in the extra extra extra sunrise service at Trabuco Canyon cuz sunrise service at Trabuco Canyon cuz sunrise service at Trabuco Canyon cuz cuz the the congregation was just cuz the the congregation was just cuz the the congregation was just exploding with exploding with exploding with >> there and it was beautiful. >> there and it was beautiful. >> there and it was beautiful. >> led led worship there. >> led led worship there. >> led led worship there. >> Conan, he sure did. >> Conan, he sure did. >> Conan, he sure did. >> Conan led led worship there.

>> Conan led led worship there. >> Conan led led worship there. And that is because you're And that is because you're And that is because you're the central so what that title means is the central so what that title means is the central so what that title means is you oversee the all of the you oversee the all of the you oversee the all of the worship at all of our congregations. So worship at all of our congregations. So worship at all of our congregations. So when we launch a new congregation, you when we launch a new congregation, you when we launch a new congregation, you well done on finding amazing people. You well done on finding amazing people. You well done on finding amazing people. You you find those people and we you find those people and we you find those people and we some of some come from within our some of some come from within our some of some come from within our our our leadership pipeline or our our our leadership pipeline or our our our leadership pipeline or our church. church. church. And some you hire from from the outside And some you hire from from the outside And some you hire from from the outside and and gosh, we and and gosh, we and and gosh, we have new congregations which you'll hear have new congregations which you'll hear have new congregations which you'll hear about coming up at the end of the month. about coming up at the end of the month. about coming up at the end of the month. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> And Conan found the worship leaders for >> And Conan found the worship leaders for >> And Conan found the worship leaders for those that are already on the team. those that are already on the team. those that are already on the team. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Right? >> Right? >> Right? >> Yeah, we're rocking. >> Yeah, we're rocking. >> Yeah, we're rocking. >> They're awesome. >> They're awesome. >> They're awesome. >> Dude, thank you, man. >> Dude, thank you, man. >> Dude, thank you, man. >> Some people have already met Bryce, >> Some people have already met Bryce, >> Some people have already met Bryce, right? Yeah. right? Yeah. right? Yeah. >> Bryce has been over a bunch of different >> Bryce has been over a bunch of different >> Bryce has been over a bunch of different places. places. places. >> Yeah, yeah. That's just so fun. >> Yeah, yeah. That's just so fun. >> Yeah, yeah. That's just so fun. >> No, it's I get I get such a a treat to >> No, it's I get I get such a a treat to >> No, it's I get I get such a a treat to get to see get to see get to see our services happening across Southern our services happening across Southern our services happening across Southern California, you know. I get I'm one of California, you know. I get I'm one of California, you know. I get I'm one of the few people I get to travel and you the few people I get to travel and you the few people I get to travel and you know to see your message in so many know to see your message in so many know to see your message in so many different venues and to to see the different venues and to to see the different venues and to to see the experience. It is beautiful what God is experience. It is beautiful what God is experience. It is beautiful what God is doing throughout the city. doing throughout the city. doing throughout the city. >> is. It's [clears throat] awesome. I >> is. It's [clears throat] awesome. I >> is. It's [clears throat] awesome. I remember one time on a week where I remember one time on a week where I remember one time on a week where I wasn't teaching, I went to wasn't teaching, I went to wasn't teaching, I went to Trabuco and I was texting you a question Trabuco and I was texting you a question Trabuco and I was texting you a question and you're like, "Where you at, dude?

and you're like, "Where you at, dude? and you're like, "Where you at, dude? I'm here." I'm here." I'm here." >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> So you were in >> So you were in >> So you were in >> We just happened to be >> We just happened to be >> We just happened to be >> We just happened to be in the in the >> We just happened to be in the in the >> We just happened to be in the in the room. room. room. Happened to be the same congregation. Happened to be the same congregation. Happened to be the same congregation. >> I was checking out. >> I was checking out. >> I was checking out. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And then I think Bryce who >> And then I think Bryce who >> And then I think Bryce who when when you when when you when when you found him, he was leading for a found him, he was leading for a found him, he was leading for a temporary time at Yorba Linda. temporary time at Yorba Linda. temporary time at Yorba Linda. >> Yeah, that's right. That's right. >> Yeah, that's right. That's right. >> Yeah, that's right. That's right. >> Right? >> Right? >> Right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I I called you on the way home. I >> And I I called you on the way home. I >> And I I called you on the way home. I was like, "Man, I really that he Bryce, was like, "Man, I really that he Bryce, was like, "Man, I really that he Bryce, he led so well and then we ended up he led so well and then we ended up he led so well and then we ended up hiring him." hiring him." hiring him." >> He's awesome. >> He's awesome. >> He's awesome. >> Yeah, he's great. He just got married, >> Yeah, he's great. He just got married, >> Yeah, he's great. He just got married, didn't he? didn't he? didn't he? >> Just got married. Just got like >> Just got married. Just got like >> Just got married. Just got like literally, I think he got married and literally, I think he got married and literally, I think he got married and then 2 weeks later started, so that's then 2 weeks later started, so that's then 2 weeks later started, so that's rocking. rocking. rocking. >> You know what? Have as many transitions >> You know what? Have as many transitions >> You know what? Have as many transitions as you can. as you can. as you can. >> Yeah, right. Pack it all in. >> Yeah, right. Pack it all in. >> Yeah, right. Pack it all in. >> Pack it in at once. No problem. >> Pack it in at once. No problem. >> Pack it in at once. No problem. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Yeah, it's awesome. Stoked to have them >> Yeah, it's awesome. Stoked to have them >> Yeah, it's awesome. Stoked to have them and stoked to get rolling. We're about and stoked to get rolling. We're about and stoked to get rolling. We're about to start launch season next month. I to start launch season next month. I to start launch season next month. I mean, they're already starting. Meetings mean, they're already starting. Meetings mean, they're already starting. Meetings already happening, but the ball really already happening, but the ball really already happening, but the ball really gets rolling. It's exciting. gets rolling. It's exciting. gets rolling. It's exciting. >> We we got two new congregations >> We we got two new congregations >> We we got two new congregations launching. launching. launching. It's going to be amazing. I can't wait. It's going to be amazing. I can't wait. It's going to be amazing. I can't wait. I'm really excited about announcing I'm really excited about announcing I'm really excited about announcing those. And that is week those. And that is week those. And that is week four or five of the series. Week five of four or five of the series. Week five of four or five of the series. Week five of the series of the new series. You'll the series of the new series. You'll the series of the new series. You'll want to be at church that weekend so you want to be at church that weekend so you want to be at church that weekend so you can hear the the the next two cities can hear the the the next two cities can hear the the the next two cities that we're going to.

that we're going to. that we're going to. >> I can't wait. There's a lot of fun >> I can't wait. There's a lot of fun >> I can't wait. There's a lot of fun things that are coming up this fall. things that are coming up this fall. things that are coming up this fall. Yes, our fall starts now. We've decided Yes, our fall starts now. We've decided Yes, our fall starts now. We've decided that that August is really the that that August is really the that that August is really the >> even know if we decided as much as the >> even know if we decided as much as the >> even know if we decided as much as the schools decided it. schools decided it. schools decided it. I moved here eight years ago and it I moved here eight years ago and it I moved here eight years ago and it feels like every year it's it's inched feels like every year it's it's inched feels like every year it's it's inched earlier and earlier. earlier and earlier. earlier and earlier. I think one of the reasons and I know we I think one of the reasons and I know we I think one of the reasons and I know we have lots of educators in our church I'm have lots of educators in our church I'm have lots of educators in our church I'm super thankful for. So, I if I am wrong super thankful for. So, I if I am wrong super thankful for. So, I if I am wrong in my thinking, please forgive me. I'm in my thinking, please forgive me. I'm in my thinking, please forgive me. I'm not saying this as an expert. I have not saying this as an expert. I have not saying this as an expert. I have thought perhaps one of the reasons is thought perhaps one of the reasons is thought perhaps one of the reasons is the earlier you go, you have more they the earlier you go, you have more they the earlier you go, you have more they have more prep time for the testing. So, have more prep time for the testing. So, have more prep time for the testing. So, like the standardized testing. That's like the standardized testing. That's like the standardized testing. That's really important for lots of different really important for lots of different really important for lots of different It's how schools can get ranked and It's how schools can get ranked and It's how schools can get ranked and rated and things like that. So, there's rated and things like that. So, there's rated and things like that. So, there's going to be pressure on teachers and going to be pressure on teachers and going to be pressure on teachers and administrators for those test scores. administrators for those test scores. administrators for those test scores. So, gosh, So, gosh, So, gosh, should we start a little earlier to be should we start a little earlier to be should we start a little earlier to be sure that we have, you know, enough time sure that we have, you know, enough time sure that we have, you know, enough time to teach well, you know, so. I'm not to teach well, you know, so. I'm not to teach well, you know, so. I'm not advocating advocating advocating >> Beach, we still start in September.

>> Beach, we still start in September. >> Beach, we still start in September. That's true. And I heard it was because That's true. And I heard it was because That's true. And I heard it was because they wanted to lay the AC bill cuz it's they wanted to lay the AC bill cuz it's they wanted to lay the AC bill cuz it's I just what I heard. I just what I heard. I just what I heard. >> What did you hear? >> What did you hear? >> What did you hear? >> Like they they wanted to run the AC less >> Like they they wanted to run the AC less >> Like they they wanted to run the AC less cuz it's so hot in August. cuz it's so hot in August. cuz it's so hot in August. >> That is You know what, both of these >> That is You know what, both of these >> That is You know what, both of these things make sense. things make sense. things make sense. They may not be true, but they They may not be true, but they They may not be true, but they [laughter] make sense. >> Good good ideas. [laughter] >> Good good ideas. [laughter] >> but we are I just as cuz we're talking >> but we are I just as cuz we're talking >> but we are I just as cuz we're talking about about schools, I am so thankful about about schools, I am so thankful about about schools, I am so thankful for our teachers and administrators. for our teachers and administrators. for our teachers and administrators. They make such an impact on the next They make such an impact on the next They make such an impact on the next generation for just decades of people's generation for just decades of people's generation for just decades of people's lives being impacted. And so to have lives being impacted. And so to have lives being impacted. And so to have Christians in in the school system Christians in in the school system Christians in in the school system just being just being just being Jesus and that that doesn't mean that Jesus and that that doesn't mean that Jesus and that that doesn't mean that you're you know you're you know you're you know in history class in history class in history class preaching. I'm not if you but just how preaching. I'm not if you but just how preaching. I'm not if you but just how you represent him well. you represent him well. you represent him well. And then and live with integrity in And then and live with integrity in And then and live with integrity in front of people make such an impact so front of people make such an impact so front of people make such an impact so thank you so much. thank you so much. thank you so much. >> Yeah. We're going to take a time to >> Yeah. We're going to take a time to >> Yeah. We're going to take a time to honor our teachers and our students and honor our teachers and our students and honor our teachers and our students and bless them going into into the school bless them going into into the school bless them going into into the school year just in a couple of weeks. So I'm year just in a couple of weeks. So I'm year just in a couple of weeks. So I'm I'm with you. I want to be the wind in I'm with you. I want to be the wind in I'm with you. I want to be the wind in their sails as they go in and pour into their sails as they go in and pour into their sails as they go in and pour into the next generation this year. Yeah.

the next generation this year. Yeah. the next generation this year. Yeah. Well, I'm excited to kick off a new Well, I'm excited to kick off a new Well, I'm excited to kick off a new teaching series this weekend teaching series this weekend teaching series this weekend when life doesn't make sense and we're when life doesn't make sense and we're when life doesn't make sense and we're looking at so many of the things that looking at so many of the things that looking at so many of the things that all of us have faced, are facing, or all of us have faced, are facing, or all of us have faced, are facing, or will face in our lives and doing it will face in our lives and doing it will face in our lives and doing it while looking at the book of the Psalms. while looking at the book of the Psalms. while looking at the book of the Psalms. So Eric, could you share just a little So Eric, could you share just a little So Eric, could you share just a little bit with everybody about why this series bit with everybody about why this series bit with everybody about why this series is is is >> Yeah. And we have Conant here because >> Yeah. And we have Conant here because >> Yeah. And we have Conant here because he's a worship leader and we're and over he's a worship leader and we're and over he's a worship leader and we're and over the next 6 weeks we're bringing in the next 6 weeks we're bringing in the next 6 weeks we're bringing in different worship leaders, right? different worship leaders, right? different worship leaders, right? >> Yeah, that's right. >> Yeah, that's right. >> Yeah, that's right. >> Because the Psalms are it's >> Because the Psalms are it's >> Because the Psalms are it's basically the the worship book for God's basically the the worship book for God's basically the the worship book for God's people, right? people, right? people, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So >> So >> So the Psalms were written over a 900 year the Psalms were written over a 900 year the Psalms were written over a 900 year period of time. This is important to period of time. This is important to period of time. This is important to understand because if you understand because if you understand because if you if you think that they're written in if you think that they're written in if you think that they're written in chronological order, you can get really chronological order, you can get really chronological order, you can get really confused. So to realize that they were confused. So to realize that they were confused. So to realize that they were written over they were the songbook for written over they were the songbook for written over they were the songbook for God's people but I mean 900 years, God's people but I mean 900 years, God's people but I mean 900 years, that's a long time, right? And they were that's a long time, right? And they were that's a long time, right? And they were then compiled not in order of chronol- then compiled not in order of chronol- then compiled not in order of chronol- chronology but in order of um just chronology but in order of um just chronology but in order of um just editorially these go go together. Like editorially these go go together. Like editorially these go go together. Like song Psalms of Ascent for example.

song Psalms of Ascent for example. song Psalms of Ascent for example. Psalms that God's people would sing when Psalms that God's people would sing when Psalms that God's people would sing when they would travel three times a year to they would travel three times a year to they would travel three times a year to Jerusalem. Those are together. So, Jerusalem. Those are together. So, Jerusalem. Those are together. So, they're they're placed together more they're they're placed together more they're they're placed together more catego- categorically than catego- categorically than catego- categorically than chronologically. Now, if you're ever chronologically. Now, if you're ever chronologically. Now, if you're ever like, "Gosh, I'd love to read them like, "Gosh, I'd love to read them like, "Gosh, I'd love to read them chronologically." You can pick up a chronologically." You can pick up a chronologically." You can pick up a chronological Bible, which is really a chronological Bible, which is really a chronological Bible, which is really a fun read if you ever want to do that fun read if you ever want to do that fun read if you ever want to do that over a year. It's awesome. It's you over a year. It's awesome. It's you over a year. It's awesome. It's you actually see uh oh, this is how it actually see uh oh, this is how it actually see uh oh, this is how it happens in order. You you're shocked cuz happens in order. You you're shocked cuz happens in order. You you're shocked cuz the Book of Job is right there at the the Book of Job is right there at the the Book of Job is right there at the very beginning. You realize that the very beginning. You realize that the very beginning. You realize that the beginning of the Bible is actually the beginning of the Bible is actually the beginning of the Bible is actually the Book of Job, which to what we're seeing Book of Job, which to what we're seeing Book of Job, which to what we're seeing when life doesn't make sense, God puts when life doesn't make sense, God puts when life doesn't make sense, God puts in the order the Book of Job at the in the order the Book of Job at the in the order the Book of Job at the beginning, essentially. beginning, essentially. beginning, essentially. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> In the order of chronolo- chronology, um >> In the order of chronolo- chronology, um >> In the order of chronolo- chronology, um because human suffering and all the because human suffering and all the because human suffering and all the trials that we face is not um trials that we face is not um trials that we face is not um an abstract idea. It's very tangible and an abstract idea. It's very tangible and an abstract idea. It's very tangible and real, and it's not as if God's hiding real, and it's not as if God's hiding real, and it's not as if God's hiding that from us. He He has it clearly in in that from us. He He has it clearly in in that from us. He He has it clearly in in the scripture. the scripture. the scripture. Okay, so the Psalms that we're looking Okay, so the Psalms that we're looking Okay, so the Psalms that we're looking at, what I love about these is at least at, what I love about these is at least at, what I love about these is at least many of the sets many of the sets many of the sets you actually know the context because of you actually know the context because of you actually know the context because of the prescript. So, in Psalm 142, which the prescript. So, in Psalm 142, which the prescript. So, in Psalm 142, which we studied this weekend, we studied this weekend, we studied this weekend, if you see verse one, you see I cry if you see verse one, you see I cry if you see verse one, you see I cry aloud to the Lord, I plead aloud to the aloud to the Lord, I plead aloud to the aloud to the Lord, I plead aloud to the Lord for mercy. But above, you see a Lord for mercy. But above, you see a Lord for mercy. But above, you see a Maskil of David when he was in the cave, Maskil of David when he was in the cave, Maskil of David when he was in the cave, a prayer. A Maskil means a teaching a prayer. A Maskil means a teaching a prayer. A Maskil means a teaching Psalm. So, I just I ape out. I love Psalm. So, I just I ape out. I love Psalm. So, I just I ape out. I love Psalms when you have a prescript. And Psalms when you have a prescript. And Psalms when you have a prescript. And that's not added by an editor. That's that's not added by an editor. That's that's not added by an editor. That's italicized. That's in the original italicized. That's in the original italicized. That's in the original Hebrew. And so, we

Hebrew. And so, we Hebrew. And so, we >> different than like whenever you're >> different than like whenever you're >> different than like whenever you're reading the Gospels and they put like reading the Gospels and they put like reading the Gospels and they put like little headers over little headers over little headers over >> a header. >> a header. >> a header. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, even this, uh Psalm 142, in my >> Yeah. So, even this, uh Psalm 142, in my >> Yeah. So, even this, uh Psalm 142, in my mine says a a cry of distress. mine says a a cry of distress. mine says a a cry of distress. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> That's a header. But then you see >> That's a header. But then you see >> That's a header. But then you see italicized, essentially the same size as italicized, essentially the same size as italicized, essentially the same size as verse one, verse one, verse one, a Maskil of David, a prayer when he was a Maskil of David, a prayer when he was a Maskil of David, a prayer when he was in the cave. So, now you know, okay, oh, in the cave. So, now you know, okay, oh, in the cave. So, now you know, okay, oh, I know exactly where this was. I know exactly where this was. I know exactly where this was. And then we looked at the account from 1 And then we looked at the account from 1 And then we looked at the account from 1 Samuel 16 to 1 Samuel 22, the journey of Samuel 16 to 1 Samuel 22, the journey of Samuel 16 to 1 Samuel 22, the journey of how he gets to the cave. how he gets to the cave. how he gets to the cave. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So he's in the cave and he >> So he's in the cave and he >> So he's in the cave and he he pens these words. Now, he's in he pens these words. Now, he's in he pens these words. Now, he's in another cave uh in in 1 Samuel 24 in another cave uh in in 1 Samuel 24 in another cave uh in in 1 Samuel 24 in En-gedi, but which is different from the En-gedi, but which is different from the En-gedi, but which is different from the cave in Adullam, which is where I cave in Adullam, which is where I cave in Adullam, which is where I believe he penned this and that's 1 believe he penned this and that's 1 believe he penned this and that's 1 Samuel 22, which Samuel 22, which Samuel 22, which most scholars put him there. So you do most scholars put him there. So you do most scholars put him there. So you do have to do a little bit of digging. have to do a little bit of digging. have to do a little bit of digging. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> But you definitely uh you definitely see >> But you definitely uh you definitely see >> But you definitely uh you definitely see oh my gosh, these Psalms are connected oh my gosh, these Psalms are connected oh my gosh, these Psalms are connected to real events and real accounts in the to real events and real accounts in the to real events and real accounts in the scripture.

scripture. scripture. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So what we're going to do over the >> So what we're going to do over the >> So what we're going to do over the teaching series is look at Psalms that teaching series is look at Psalms that teaching series is look at Psalms that we either have in the prescript or that we either have in the prescript or that we either have in the prescript or that scholars are in agreement that they know scholars are in agreement that they know scholars are in agreement that they know when this when this took place. when this when this took place. when this when this took place. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> For example, Psalm 32 >> For example, Psalm 32 >> For example, Psalm 32 is in 2 weeks from now and it says of is in 2 weeks from now and it says of is in 2 weeks from now and it says of David a Maskil and it is a song about David a Maskil and it is a song about David a Maskil and it is a song about him him him rejoicing in God's forgiveness. rejoicing in God's forgiveness. rejoicing in God's forgiveness. So scholars believe that this is the So scholars believe that this is the So scholars believe that this is the Psalm that he prayed after he had Psalm that he prayed after he had Psalm that he prayed after he had confessed his sin with Bathsheba. confessed his sin with Bathsheba. confessed his sin with Bathsheba. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> And then he's forgiven and then he >> And then he's forgiven and then he >> And then he's forgiven and then he celebrates being forgiven. celebrates being forgiven. celebrates being forgiven. Now, the reason I'm pointing that out is Now, the reason I'm pointing that out is Now, the reason I'm pointing that out is that's Psalm 32, which is clearly that's Psalm 32, which is clearly that's Psalm 32, which is clearly way before 142, but chronologically 142 way before 142, but chronologically 142 way before 142, but chronologically 142 is before 32. is before 32. is before 32. >> Why'd they do it like that? >> Why'd they do it like that? >> Why'd they do it like that? >> I don't know why they did it like that. >> I don't know why they did it like that. >> I don't know why they did it like that. Uh Uh Uh but but we know um we know that they're but but we know um we know that they're but but we know um we know that they're they're both God's word. they're both God's word. they're both God's word. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Right? >> Right? >> Right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And so it's it's great to have um >> And so it's it's great to have um >> And so it's it's great to have um some digging. It actually I think why some digging. It actually I think why some digging. It actually I think why they do that is cuz the Psalms are a they do that is cuz the Psalms are a they do that is cuz the Psalms are a worship song.

worship song. worship song. >> Mhm. Yeah. [clears throat] >> Mhm. Yeah. [clears throat] >> Mhm. Yeah. [clears throat] >> It's not it's not a narrative. >> It's not it's not a narrative. >> It's not it's not a narrative. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> You know, the the type of literature, >> You know, the the type of literature, >> You know, the the type of literature, the genre that it is is it's the genre that it is is it's the genre that it is is it's it's wisdom literature, it's songs. it's wisdom literature, it's songs. it's wisdom literature, it's songs. And it but they're but the ones we're And it but they're but the ones we're And it but they're but the ones we're going to look at over these 6 weeks are going to look at over these 6 weeks are going to look at over these 6 weeks are connected to accounts in the scripture. connected to accounts in the scripture. connected to accounts in the scripture. >> Yeah. Yeah, I love it. And I love as we >> Yeah. Yeah, I love it. And I love as we >> Yeah. Yeah, I love it. And I love as we read them too to imagine how these read them too to imagine how these read them too to imagine how these Psalms or songs have also united us to Psalms or songs have also united us to Psalms or songs have also united us to God's people for thousands of years. God's people for thousands of years. God's people for thousands of years. >> Yes, I do love that, too. >> Yes, I do love that, too. >> Yes, I do love that, too. >> Yeah, like we're we're not the only ones >> Yeah, like we're we're not the only ones >> Yeah, like we're we're not the only ones reading these and finding comfort in reading these and finding comfort in reading these and finding comfort in this. this. this. >> are not. >> are not. >> are not. >> Yeah, it's amazing. >> Yeah, it's amazing. >> Yeah, it's amazing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Well, Psalm 142 this week was incredible >> Well, Psalm 142 this week was incredible >> Well, Psalm 142 this week was incredible and man, I found I found myself like and man, I found I found myself like and man, I found I found myself like taking a deep breath listening to all taking a deep breath listening to all taking a deep breath listening to all that David was enduring and and had gone that David was enduring and and had gone that David was enduring and and had gone through as you explained the passage through as you explained the passage through as you explained the passage also from 1 Samuel as well and um found also from 1 Samuel as well and um found also from 1 Samuel as well and um found it found a lot of comfort in in his it found a lot of comfort in in his it found a lot of comfort in in his words, but um you would share this when words, but um you would share this when words, but um you would share this when we actually kicked off our numbers we actually kicked off our numbers we actually kicked off our numbers series. So, we just wrapped up uh series. So, we just wrapped up uh series. So, we just wrapped up uh another one of our Old Testament another one of our Old Testament another one of our Old Testament narrative series going through the book narrative series going through the book narrative series going through the book of Numbers. It was amazing. It of Numbers. It was amazing. It of Numbers. It was amazing. It >> I was so proud of our church for for >> I was so proud of our church for for >> I was so proud of our church for for throwing themselves into that book.

throwing themselves into that book. throwing themselves into that book. >> Yes, yes. It was it was amazing and and >> Yes, yes. It was it was amazing and and >> Yes, yes. It was it was amazing and and one of the things that we did see one of the things that we did see one of the things that we did see as God's people moved through the as God's people moved through the as God's people moved through the wilderness, we saw the grave wilderness, we saw the grave wilderness, we saw the grave consequences for complaining towards consequences for complaining towards consequences for complaining towards God. And you would you would kind of God. And you would you would kind of God. And you would you would kind of talked about this earlier on in that talked about this earlier on in that talked about this earlier on in that series and it's so series and it's so series and it's so important to talk about this right now, important to talk about this right now, important to talk about this right now, too, because here David is bringing a too, because here David is bringing a too, because here David is bringing a complaint to God. complaint to God. complaint to God. >> the he uses the word complaint. >> the he uses the word complaint. >> the he uses the word complaint. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> He's not even masking it. >> He's not even masking it. >> He's not even masking it. >> Right. No hiding it. >> Right. No hiding it. >> Right. No hiding it. >> Like like sometimes we we we we complain >> Like like sometimes we we we we complain >> Like like sometimes we we we we complain in ways that are a little passive. in ways that are a little passive. in ways that are a little passive. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> He's being very active. >> He's being very active. >> He's being very active. >> Yeah. I [snorts] have a complaint. Yeah, >> Yeah. I [snorts] have a complaint. Yeah, >> Yeah. I [snorts] have a complaint. Yeah, yeah. yeah. yeah. >> You know. >> You know. >> You know. >> So, what's what's the difference really >> So, what's what's the difference really >> So, what's what's the difference really of what what we look at in this Psalm of what what we look at in this Psalm of what what we look at in this Psalm versus God's people in the book of versus God's people in the book of versus God's people in the book of Numbers? Numbers? Numbers? >> I've >> I've >> I've read I have an answer only because I read I have an answer only because I read I have an answer only because I really wrestled with this when I studied really wrestled with this when I studied really wrestled with this when I studied the scripture. I was like, "I'm the scripture. I was like, "I'm the scripture. I was like, "I'm confused. Why confused. Why confused. Why like God he is he's saying he's like God he is he's saying he's like God he is he's saying he's complaining.

complaining. complaining. And yet in Numbers And yet in Numbers And yet in Numbers a generation of people did not go into a generation of people did not go into a generation of people did not go into the promised land. the promised land. the promised land. I know you're the same God, the same God I know you're the same God, the same God I know you're the same God, the same God yesterday, today, and forever according yesterday, today, and forever according yesterday, today, and forever according to the scripture. to the scripture. to the scripture. I don't I I help me understand why the I don't I I help me understand why the I don't I I help me understand why the complaining of the people in the complaining of the people in the complaining of the people in the wilderness was so offensive to you. wilderness was so offensive to you. wilderness was so offensive to you. And yet David's complaint And yet David's complaint And yet David's complaint I know it's not cuz you just love him I know it's not cuz you just love him I know it's not cuz you just love him more. more. more. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You know, I know I know that's not it. >> You know, I know I know that's not it. >> You know, I know I know that's not it. Uh why? Why are they different? And so I Uh why? Why are they different? And so I Uh why? Why are they different? And so I spent a lot of time, gosh, this is spent a lot of time, gosh, this is spent a lot of time, gosh, this is several years ago, wrestling just as I several years ago, wrestling just as I several years ago, wrestling just as I was not not for a sermon, just in my own was not not for a sermon, just in my own was not not for a sermon, just in my own devotional life. devotional life. devotional life. And I really believe the difference is And I really believe the difference is And I really believe the difference is the posture of the of the person. the posture of the of the person. the posture of the of the person. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> The people who were complaining in the >> The people who were complaining in the >> The people who were complaining in the wilderness, I mean, remember the crazy wilderness, I mean, remember the crazy wilderness, I mean, remember the crazy things they were saying? It'd be better things they were saying? It'd be better things they were saying? It'd be better for us to be back in Egypt. Uh they for us to be back in Egypt. Uh they for us to be back in Egypt. Uh they called Egypt that their where they were called Egypt that their where they were called Egypt that their where they were enslaved the land of milk and honey when enslaved the land of milk and honey when enslaved the land of milk and honey when God had called Canaan the land of milk God had called Canaan the land of milk God had called Canaan the land of milk and honey. So they they they were and honey. So they they they were and honey. So they they they were accusing God of not being good, of not accusing God of not being good, of not accusing God of not being good, of not being gracious.

being gracious. being gracious. David is there's no accusation against David is there's no accusation against David is there's no accusation against God. He's asking God for mercy in the God. He's asking God for mercy in the God. He's asking God for mercy in the very same verse. He's asking God for very same verse. He's asking God for very same verse. He's asking God for mercy. So he's not accusing God of being mercy. So he's not accusing God of being mercy. So he's not accusing God of being um unmerciful or not gracious. He's um unmerciful or not gracious. He's um unmerciful or not gracious. He's saying, "You are merciful. It's why I saying, "You are merciful. It's why I saying, "You are merciful. It's why I need your mercy." need your mercy." need your mercy." >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> So he's trusting the character of God. >> So he's trusting the character of God. >> So he's trusting the character of God. But God, I am really wrestling with But God, I am really wrestling with But God, I am really wrestling with what's happening in my life. what's happening in my life. what's happening in my life. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So I think not I think, I know. Going to >> So I think not I think, I know. Going to >> So I think not I think, I know. Going to God with a complaint about something God with a complaint about something God with a complaint about something happening in your life, he welcomes you. happening in your life, he welcomes you. happening in your life, he welcomes you. As you are holding as you are holding As you are holding as you are holding As you are holding as you are holding tightly to I I trust who you are, I just tightly to I I trust who you are, I just tightly to I I trust who you are, I just don't understand this at all. don't understand this at all. don't understand this at all. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Bring it. Bring it to him. >> Bring it. Bring it to him. >> Bring it. Bring it to him. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> What the people in the book of Numbers >> What the people in the book of Numbers >> What the people in the book of Numbers did was uh did was uh did was uh we know who you are, God. You're an we know who you are, God. You're an we know who you are, God. You're an unloving, ungracious God, and we're unloving, ungracious God, and we're unloving, ungracious God, and we're complaining about everything you've complaining about everything you've complaining about everything you've given us. And God tolerated him multiple given us. And God tolerated him multiple given us. And God tolerated him multiple times and finally was like, "That's it. times and finally was like, "That's it. times and finally was like, "That's it. Like, you you show you're not mine by Like, you you show you're not mine by Like, you you show you're not mine by how you talk to me." how you talk to me." how you talk to me." >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> You know, this is this is David >> You know, this is this is David >> You know, this is this is David I'm asking you for mercy.

I'm asking you for mercy. I'm asking you for mercy. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You know. >> You know. >> You know. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You deal generously with me. This is >> You deal generously with me. This is >> You deal generously with me. This is very different from the people in um very different from the people in um very different from the people in um >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But I'm complaining about what's going >> But I'm complaining about what's going >> But I'm complaining about what's going on. on. on. >> Yeah, for sure. >> Yeah, for sure. >> Yeah, for sure. >> This is not great. >> This is not great. >> This is not great. >> For sure. >> For sure. >> For sure. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Absolutely. That's good. Yeah, it's like >> Absolutely. That's good. Yeah, it's like >> Absolutely. That's good. Yeah, it's like a it's it's the posture of trust. I a it's it's the posture of trust. I a it's it's the posture of trust. I think about that and how how you come to think about that and how how you come to think about that and how how you come to the Lord with that knowing his goodness, the Lord with that knowing his goodness, the Lord with that knowing his goodness, his faithfulness. That's the difference his faithfulness. That's the difference his faithfulness. That's the difference and that man, David gives us such good and that man, David gives us such good and that man, David gives us such good language for how to do that in a way language for how to do that in a way language for how to do that in a way that the Lord invites us into it. And I that the Lord invites us into it. And I that the Lord invites us into it. And I mean, I'm working with a lot of young mean, I'm working with a lot of young mean, I'm working with a lot of young worship leaders who are in their 20s and worship leaders who are in their 20s and worship leaders who are in their 20s and sometimes their trials are like, "That's sometimes their trials are like, "That's sometimes their trials are like, "That's not really a trial, but it's a trial to not really a trial, but it's a trial to not really a trial, but it's a trial to them." They're walking through it, but them." They're walking through it, but them." They're walking through it, but then giving them language, giving them then giving them language, giving them then giving them language, giving them coaching on how to how to bring it to coaching on how to how to bring it to coaching on how to how to bring it to the Lord and and even how to lead in the the Lord and and even how to lead in the the Lord and and even how to lead in the midst of it, how to lead worship for midst of it, how to lead worship for midst of it, how to lead worship for your congregation, for your church in your congregation, for your church in your congregation, for your church in the midst of what you're walking through the midst of what you're walking through the midst of what you're walking through and what that means for your own sound, and what that means for your own sound, and what that means for your own sound, your own story. your own story. your own story. Um it's beautiful and I think that like Um it's beautiful and I think that like Um it's beautiful and I think that like I think about that a ton with this next I think about that a ton with this next I think about that a ton with this next generation coming up. Their their generation coming up. Their their generation coming up. Their their posture of trust, understanding the posture of trust, understanding the posture of trust, understanding the goodness and faithfulness of God goodness and faithfulness of God goodness and faithfulness of God >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> in every season cuz it's not it's not a >> in every season cuz it's not it's not a >> in every season cuz it's not it's not a if trials are coming, it's when. And if trials are coming, it's when. And if trials are coming, it's when. And looking at a young leader and saying looking at a young leader and saying looking at a young leader and saying that, they're kind of like, "Yeah, yeah, that, they're kind of like, "Yeah, yeah, that, they're kind of like, "Yeah, yeah, but like" I'm like, "No, it's it's but like" I'm like, "No, it's it's but like" I'm like, "No, it's it's coming and yeah."

coming and yeah." coming and yeah." >> Yeah, you don't you don't have to go >> Yeah, you don't you don't have to go >> Yeah, you don't you don't have to go looking for them, man. looking for them, man. looking for them, man. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> They they they will and often times it's >> They they they will and often times it's >> They they they will and often times it's not cuz you do anything, it's just we're not cuz you do anything, it's just we're not cuz you do anything, it's just we're living in a in a really living in a in a really living in a in a really a a world that's out of shape and a a world that's out of shape and a a world that's out of shape and crooked. You and I have talked about crooked. You and I have talked about crooked. You and I have talked about this. I think I think it's it might be this. I think I think it's it might be this. I think I think it's it might be good to bring up now. good to bring up now. good to bring up now. There is There is There is um um um a joy a joy a joy >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> on the other side of the trial >> on the other side of the trial >> on the other side of the trial >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> that is a deep joy >> that is a deep joy >> that is a deep joy as opposed to a just pretend as opposed to a just pretend as opposed to a just pretend everything's okay kind of joy, which is everything's okay kind of joy, which is everything's okay kind of joy, which is a surface, fake, happy. a surface, fake, happy. a surface, fake, happy. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> And so, as we talk about you you're your >> And so, as we talk about you you're your >> And so, as we talk about you you're your in your role, you know, we've talked in your role, you know, we've talked in your role, you know, we've talked about worship. about worship. about worship. In the midst of trials, we can worship In the midst of trials, we can worship In the midst of trials, we can worship because of we're we're on the other because of we're we're on the other because of we're we're on the other side. Not that we're not on the other side. Not that we're not on the other side. Not that we're not on the other side of the trial, but we're we're we've side of the trial, but we're we're we've side of the trial, but we're we're we've thought through the trial, we've thought through the trial, we've thought through the trial, we've evaluated the trial in light of God's evaluated the trial in light of God's evaluated the trial in light of God's goodness, and we in the midst of our goodness, and we in the midst of our goodness, and we in the midst of our pain can still sing with joy and victory pain can still sing with joy and victory pain can still sing with joy and victory because we're trusting that he's bigger because we're trusting that he's bigger because we're trusting that he's bigger than the trial.

than the trial. than the trial. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That is a deep um all in joy. We want >> That is a deep um all in joy. We want >> That is a deep um all in joy. We want that. that. that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um I want that in our worship leaders, >> Um I want that in our worship leaders, >> Um I want that in our worship leaders, but I want that in our people. I want but I want that in our people. I want but I want that in our people. I want that in me. I want cuz I need this thing that in me. I want cuz I need this thing that in me. I want cuz I need this thing in the middle of a trial, right? in the middle of a trial, right? in the middle of a trial, right? I mean, David sang in the middle of I mean, David sang in the middle of I mean, David sang in the middle of >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> the trial. Another example is Psalm 57 >> the trial. Another example is Psalm 57 >> the trial. Another example is Psalm 57 where he he which many also place at the where he he which many also place at the where he he which many also place at the same context of here. And then Psalm 57, same context of here. And then Psalm 57, same context of here. And then Psalm 57, he's like, I wake up the dawn with he's like, I wake up the dawn with he's like, I wake up the dawn with singing. singing. singing. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Basically, the dawn doesn't wake me up, >> Basically, the dawn doesn't wake me up, >> Basically, the dawn doesn't wake me up, I wake up the dawn. I wake up the dawn. I wake up the dawn. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Like, I'm going to sing through the >> Like, I'm going to sing through the >> Like, I'm going to sing through the through the midst of this trial. through the midst of this trial. through the midst of this trial. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That is a that's a deeper faith than >> That is a that's a deeper faith than >> That is a that's a deeper faith than um hey, just fake it. um hey, just fake it. um hey, just fake it. >> Right. Right. >> Right. Right. >> Right. Right. >> That's not what that's not what we're >> That's not what that's not what we're >> That's not what that's not what we're saying. So, we're not saying in the saying. So, we're not saying in the saying. So, we're not saying in the middle of your trial, just just show up middle of your trial, just just show up middle of your trial, just just show up and fake it. We're not telling a worship and fake it. We're not telling a worship and fake it. We're not telling a worship leader, hey listen, we know that there's leader, hey listen, we know that there's leader, hey listen, we know that there's a struggle in your life, just fake it a struggle in your life, just fake it a struggle in your life, just fake it and be happy. No. No, that that that's and be happy. No. No, that that that's and be happy. No. No, that that that's not what we see in these Psalms. not what we see in these Psalms. not what we see in these Psalms. Um but we do see Um but we do see Um but we do see as we evaluate the trial in light of who as we evaluate the trial in light of who as we evaluate the trial in light of who God is, we can still God is, we can still God is, we can still sing.

sing. sing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's beautiful. >> That's beautiful. >> That's beautiful. >> We talk a lot about >> We talk a lot about >> We talk a lot about the joy that comes in worship, but then the joy that comes in worship, but then the joy that comes in worship, but then also the the power of the church also the the power of the church also the the power of the church singing, literally lifting their voice singing, literally lifting their voice singing, literally lifting their voice together. And I think about when as a together. And I think about when as a together. And I think about when as a worship leader, people are coming into worship leader, people are coming into worship leader, people are coming into this space, they're walking through all this space, they're walking through all this space, they're walking through all different kinds of things, and the different kinds of things, and the different kinds of things, and the reason we value singing is it reminds us reason we value singing is it reminds us reason we value singing is it reminds us of the truth, no matter what you're of the truth, no matter what you're of the truth, no matter what you're walking through. And then sometimes, you walking through. And then sometimes, you walking through. And then sometimes, you know, maybe even if you can't sing it, know, maybe even if you can't sing it, know, maybe even if you can't sing it, the person next to you singing it. And the person next to you singing it. And the person next to you singing it. And you're hearing it, and you're reminding you're hearing it, and you're reminding you're hearing it, and you're reminding your soul even in the midst of it. Man, your soul even in the midst of it. Man, your soul even in the midst of it. Man, I I I look out, you know, at at I I I look out, you know, at at I I I look out, you know, at at Huntington Beach, and I was living there Huntington Beach, and I was living there Huntington Beach, and I was living there for years, and I you know, you're seeing for years, and I you know, you're seeing for years, and I you know, you're seeing It's not just people walking at stories, It's not just people walking at stories, It's not just people walking at stories, it's circumstances, it's it's struggle, it's circumstances, it's it's struggle, it's circumstances, it's it's struggle, it's joy, and in the midst of it in the it's joy, and in the midst of it in the it's joy, and in the midst of it in the midst of it, one song being raised up. midst of it, one song being raised up. midst of it, one song being raised up. You're worthy of it all, You're worthy of it all, You're worthy of it all, >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> you know? And I think about that, what >> you know? And I think about that, what >> you know? And I think about that, what those moments can do to people's faith. those moments can do to people's faith. those moments can do to people's faith. So, for the person who's in the joyful So, for the person who's in the joyful So, for the person who's in the joyful season, it's joy, and then for the season, it's joy, and then for the season, it's joy, and then for the person who's like, you know, I I've person who's like, you know, I I've person who's like, you know, I I've forgotten God's worthiness, and I've forgotten God's worthiness, and I've forgotten God's worthiness, and I've been reminded in this moment. been reminded in this moment. been reminded in this moment. >> good. >> good. >> good. >> how much beauty comes from that, from >> how much beauty comes from that, from >> how much beauty comes from that, from the sound of God's church coming the sound of God's church coming the sound of God's church coming together together together when we're in totally different when we're in totally different when we're in totally different circumstances. It's a beautiful gift to circumstances. It's a beautiful gift to circumstances. It's a beautiful gift to the church to get to sing in the midst the church to get to sing in the midst the church to get to sing in the midst of it of it of it from all the different places.

from all the different places. from all the different places. >> That's why I I'm saying to those who are >> That's why I I'm saying to those who are >> That's why I I'm saying to those who are in a season where they're they can sing. in a season where they're they can sing. in a season where they're they can sing. Meaning meaning that you're not Meaning meaning that you're not Meaning meaning that you're not Cuz sometimes you may be I mean so Cuz sometimes you may be I mean so Cuz sometimes you may be I mean so distraught. I have a friend who's distraught. I have a friend who's distraught. I have a friend who's currently going through a such a currently going through a such a currently going through a such a significant trial, significant trial, significant trial, and his wife currently just is kind of and his wife currently just is kind of and his wife currently just is kind of unable to sing, you know? Um unable to sing, you know? Um unable to sing, you know? Um but she needs to hear but she needs to hear but she needs to hear >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> others sing >> others sing >> others sing >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> because that is good for her faith. And >> because that is good for her faith. And >> because that is good for her faith. And so, if you can sing, so, if you can sing, so, if you can sing, >> It's good. >> It's good. >> It's good. >> sing. >> sing. >> sing. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> Sing, because there's others who are >> Sing, because there's others who are >> Sing, because there's others who are going to be encouraged by by your going to be encouraged by by your going to be encouraged by by your singing, you know? singing, you know? singing, you know? >> Yeah, it's beautiful. >> Yeah, it's beautiful. >> Yeah, it's beautiful. >> Amen. >> Amen. >> Amen. >> Oh, that's so good. Roddie Roddie and I >> Oh, that's so good. Roddie Roddie and I >> Oh, that's so good. Roddie Roddie and I walked through last fall a significant walked through last fall a significant walked through last fall a significant loss, and I can remember loss, and I can remember loss, and I can remember it was hard for me to go to church the it was hard for me to go to church the it was hard for me to go to church the first day that I that I went back, and first day that I that I went back, and first day that I that I went back, and >> why so? >> why so? >> why so? >> Um I because >> Um I because >> Um I because at church you can't fight any emotion, at church you can't fight any emotion, at church you can't fight any emotion, or even the just raw vulnerability.

or even the just raw vulnerability. or even the just raw vulnerability. You're hearing God's word. It just You're hearing God's word. It just You're hearing God's word. It just you're you're immediately brought into you're you're immediately brought into you're you're immediately brought into the throne room that that the throne room that that the throne room that that that makes you vulnerable. that makes you vulnerable. that makes you vulnerable. >> Yeah, and you didn't want to be any more >> Yeah, and you didn't want to be any more >> Yeah, and you didn't want to be any more vulnerable than you already felt. vulnerable than you already felt. vulnerable than you already felt. >> Totally. So, I I've been thinking about >> Totally. So, I I've been thinking about >> Totally. So, I I've been thinking about all of these people experiencing trials all of these people experiencing trials all of these people experiencing trials as we go into this series and thinking as we go into this series and thinking as we go into this series and thinking about what courage it does take to come about what courage it does take to come about what courage it does take to come to church. to church. to church. >> with that. >> with that. >> with that. >> So, I'm really proud of everybody who's >> So, I'm really proud of everybody who's >> So, I'm really proud of everybody who's showing up, but I can remember exactly showing up, but I can remember exactly showing up, but I can remember exactly what you're saying. what you're saying. what you're saying. There's a couple that I always sit in There's a couple that I always sit in There's a couple that I always sit in front of front of front of uh during the 8:30 service and uh during the 8:30 service and uh during the 8:30 service and um he the husband is he's a war vet. um he the husband is he's a war vet. um he the husband is he's a war vet. >> I know exactly who you're talking about. >> I know exactly who you're talking about. >> I know exactly who you're talking about. Has a cane? Has a cane? Has a cane? >> Yeah, because he's an amputee and his >> Yeah, because he's an amputee and his >> Yeah, because he's an amputee and his wife is has cancer right now and is wife is has cancer right now and is wife is has cancer right now and is walking through cancer. walking through cancer. walking through cancer. I need to sit in front of them that day I need to sit in front of them that day I need to sit in front of them that day and I needed to hear them shout to God and I needed to hear them shout to God and I needed to hear them shout to God and to praise. and to praise. and to praise. >> do. >> do. >> do. >> Of course they do. Like it would their >> Of course they do. Like it would their >> Of course they do. Like it would their worship I was like felt like I was worship I was like felt like I was worship I was like felt like I was borrowing their faith that day, you borrowing their faith that day, you borrowing their faith that day, you know? So, I'm just I I couldn't I know? So, I'm just I I couldn't I know? So, I'm just I I couldn't I couldn't agree more with everything you couldn't agree more with everything you couldn't agree more with everything you guys are saying and how that was a guys are saying and how that was a guys are saying and how that was a lifeline for me, honestly. Coming to lifeline for me, honestly. Coming to lifeline for me, honestly. Coming to church at first I was like, oh gosh, church at first I was like, oh gosh, church at first I was like, oh gosh, this is going to be painful, but then it this is going to be painful, but then it this is going to be painful, but then it ended up being kind of a lifeline.

ended up being kind of a lifeline. ended up being kind of a lifeline. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And it ended up being the thing that I >> And it ended up being the thing that I >> And it ended up being the thing that I looked forward to to borrow the faith looked forward to to borrow the faith looked forward to to borrow the faith and the worship and the worship and the worship >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> my friends, the people people around me, >> my friends, the people people around me, >> my friends, the people people around me, you know? you know? you know? >> That's awesome. Dietrich Bonhoeffer said >> That's awesome. Dietrich Bonhoeffer said >> That's awesome. Dietrich Bonhoeffer said that sometimes the faith in your brother that sometimes the faith in your brother that sometimes the faith in your brother is stronger than your faith. is stronger than your faith. is stronger than your faith. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And so you need to to you quote you >> And so you need to to you quote you >> And so you need to to you quote you borrow the faith of your brother. So, borrow the faith of your brother. So, borrow the faith of your brother. So, coming to church and hearing coming to church and hearing coming to church and hearing singing singing singing it is good for you if you can't sing. it is good for you if you can't sing. it is good for you if you can't sing. And if you can't sing, give that gift up And if you can't sing, give that gift up And if you can't sing, give that gift up to some other people. to some other people. to some other people. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Like, you know, belt it out. I had I had >> Like, you know, belt it out. I had I had >> Like, you know, belt it out. I had I had a worship leader one time a worship leader one time a worship leader one time >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> tell me he said uh >> tell me he said uh >> tell me he said uh dude, he he uh you it is so awesome how dude, he he uh you it is so awesome how dude, he he uh you it is so awesome how how bad you sing. how bad you sing. how bad you sing. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> And um I said, dude, that is so >> And um I said, dude, that is so >> And um I said, dude, that is so offensive. Like like I can't tell is offensive. Like like I can't tell is offensive. Like like I can't tell is this really a compliment? Like what kind this really a compliment? Like what kind this really a compliment? Like what kind of compliment is this? He said, no, cuz of compliment is this? He said, no, cuz of compliment is this? He said, no, cuz if if if if when I'm so encouraged by your bad if when I'm so encouraged by your bad if when I'm so encouraged by your bad singing because I think if you if this singing because I think if you if this singing because I think if you if this guy who can't sing guy who can't sing guy who can't sing >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> is willing to be is willing to then then >> is willing to be is willing to then then >> is willing to be is willing to then then I can share the gospel with my barista.

I can share the gospel with my barista. I can share the gospel with my barista. >> It's good. >> It's good. >> It's good. >> Amen. >> Amen. >> Amen. >> Like if if if you if you have the faith >> Like if if if you if you have the faith >> Like if if if you if you have the faith to just go for it, to just go for it, to just go for it, >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> then I I should go for it. >> then I I should go for it. >> then I I should go for it. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> So >> So >> So >> It was so good. >> It was so good. >> It was so good. >> If you're like if you're like I I'd like >> If you're like if you're like I I'd like >> If you're like if you're like I I'd like to belt out, but I don't sing I don't to belt out, but I don't sing I don't to belt out, but I don't sing I don't sing I don't sing good. I sing I don't sing good. I sing I don't sing good. I I think maybe your bad singing would I think maybe your bad singing would I think maybe your bad singing would encourage people. Maybe God made you a encourage people. Maybe God made you a encourage people. Maybe God made you a bad singer to encourage someone at bad singer to encourage someone at bad singer to encourage someone at church next week. church next week. church next week. >> That is a great reframe. That's good. >> That is a great reframe. That's good. >> That is a great reframe. That's good. >> I used to I used to tell people when I'm >> I used to I used to tell people when I'm >> I used to I used to tell people when I'm leading worship leading worship leading worship you may not think you're a singer. You you may not think you're a singer. You you may not think you're a singer. You just don't think they're singers and I'm just don't think they're singers and I'm just don't think they're singers and I'm like but God made your voice And so if like but God made your voice And so if like but God made your voice And so if you don't think you're a singer you don't think you're a singer you don't think you're a singer you're making him a bad designer. I'm you're making him a bad designer. I'm you're making him a bad designer. I'm like no God gave you your voice. There's like no God gave you your voice. There's like no God gave you your voice. There's something beautiful about that. something beautiful about that. something beautiful about that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And just bring in that instrument. >> And just bring in that instrument. >> And just bring in that instrument. >> It's I love that. That's a great We >> It's I love that. That's a great We >> It's I love that. That's a great We don't necessarily need that person to don't necessarily need that person to don't necessarily need that person to sing on stage sing on stage sing on stage >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Bring that song. >> Bring that song. >> Bring that song. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> But but we do want them singing in the >> But but we do want them singing in the >> But but we do want them singing in the room. We want them singing. room. We want them singing. room. We want them singing. >> It's beautiful. >> It's beautiful. >> It's beautiful. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Just >> Yeah. Just >> Yeah. Just you know, not in the mic right there by you know, not in the mic right there by you know, not in the mic right there by the ear. You know what I'm like. Yeah. the ear. You know what I'm like. Yeah. the ear. You know what I'm like. Yeah. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. >> Okay, I I want to talk about this >> Okay, I I want to talk about this >> Okay, I I want to talk about this another part of the song that Eric you another part of the song that Eric you another part of the song that Eric you pointed out how David actually he pointed out how David actually he pointed out how David actually he revealed his struggle to God. Why is it revealed his struggle to God. Why is it revealed his struggle to God. Why is it important for us to not just approach important for us to not just approach important for us to not just approach him passively because he already knows him passively because he already knows him passively because he already knows everything and jumping right into it?

everything and jumping right into it? everything and jumping right into it? Like why is it important for us to be Like why is it important for us to be Like why is it important for us to be really clear and explicit and actually really clear and explicit and actually really clear and explicit and actually reveal what it is that we're carrying to reveal what it is that we're carrying to reveal what it is that we're carrying to God? God? God? >> If you've ever gone to >> If you've ever gone to >> If you've ever gone to therapist or a counselor, often they'll therapist or a counselor, often they'll therapist or a counselor, often they'll say, "So why are you here today?" say, "So why are you here today?" say, "So why are you here today?" And the wise therapist knows that there And the wise therapist knows that there And the wise therapist knows that there is something that is helpful for you, is something that is helpful for you, is something that is helpful for you, therapeutic for you to therapeutic for you to therapeutic for you to reveal. reveal. reveal. >> [clears throat] >> [clears throat] >> [clears throat] >> And so here's a gracious here's our >> And so here's a gracious here's our >> And so here's a gracious here's our gracious not a the only one the gracious gracious not a the only one the gracious gracious not a the only one the gracious God our gracious God God our gracious God God our gracious God saying you can reveal to me. saying you can reveal to me. saying you can reveal to me. You can [clears throat] pour out your You can [clears throat] pour out your You can [clears throat] pour out your heart to me. heart to me. heart to me. And yes, he knows. But it's good it's And yes, he knows. But it's good it's And yes, he knows. But it's good it's good for you A and B good for you A and B good for you A and B because he's also our perfect heavenly because he's also our perfect heavenly because he's also our perfect heavenly father, father, father, he enjoys that we come to him. You know, he enjoys that we come to him. You know, he enjoys that we come to him. You know, just like just like just like I don't like when my daughters are in I don't like when my daughters are in I don't like when my daughters are in pain, but I do like when they pain, but I do like when they pain, but I do like when they I do like when they come to me. I I do like when they come to me. I I do like when they come to me. I remember when they were little and they remember when they were little and they remember when they were little and they would be sick. That was when they were would be sick. That was when they were would be sick. That was when they were the most clingy.

the most clingy. the most clingy. >> No. >> No. >> No. >> And I remember like I don't want them to >> And I remember like I don't want them to >> And I remember like I don't want them to be sick, but I love how be sick, but I love how be sick, but I love how >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> I love how clingy they are right now, >> I love how clingy they are right now, >> I love how clingy they are right now, you know? I mean they're so cuddly you know? I mean they're so cuddly you know? I mean they're so cuddly >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> when they're when they're sick. I mean >> when they're when they're sick. I mean >> when they're when they're sick. I mean they just want they just non-stop want they just want they just non-stop want they just want they just non-stop want to cuddle. to cuddle. to cuddle. >> Comfort, yeah. >> Comfort, yeah. >> Comfort, yeah. >> like >> like >> like I don't want you to be sick, but I do I I don't want you to be sick, but I do I I don't want you to be sick, but I do I I do like the I do like this cuddling, I do like the I do like this cuddling, I do like the I do like this cuddling, you [laughter] know what I mean? you [laughter] know what I mean? you [laughter] know what I mean? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Aw, that's so sweet. >> Aw, that's so sweet. >> Aw, that's so sweet. >> That's beautiful. And you mentioned your >> That's beautiful. And you mentioned your >> That's beautiful. And you mentioned your message walking through a difficult message walking through a difficult message walking through a difficult journey with with Eden and man obviously journey with with Eden and man obviously journey with with Eden and man obviously you know you know some of my story you know you know some of my story you know you know some of my story walking through that with our our oldest walking through that with our our oldest walking through that with our our oldest as well and as well and as well and man sickness in our kids both the cuddly man sickness in our kids both the cuddly man sickness in our kids both the cuddly stuff good but also the hardest trial stuff good but also the hardest trial stuff good but also the hardest trial that I think I've ever walked through. that I think I've ever walked through. that I think I've ever walked through. >> There I have a friend of mine Joby who >> There I have a friend of mine Joby who >> There I have a friend of mine Joby who says that there's no pain like kid pain. says that there's no pain like kid pain. says that there's no pain like kid pain. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Meaning >> Meaning >> Meaning it's one thing if you have a painful it's one thing if you have a painful it's one thing if you have a painful seeing your kid in pain, it's seeing your kid in pain, it's seeing your kid in pain, it's it's so it's so it's so it's so painful because you feel so it's so painful because you feel so it's so painful because you feel so helpless. helpless. helpless. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> it's so painful. >> it's so painful. >> it's so painful. >> Carly and I and my wife we've been >> Carly and I and my wife we've been >> Carly and I and my wife we've been talking a lot about what it looks like talking a lot about what it looks like talking a lot about what it looks like to bring this to the Lord and this is to bring this to the Lord and this is to bring this to the Lord and this is something that's been a journey. I mean something that's been a journey. I mean something that's been a journey. I mean it's been she's 7 years of walking with it's been she's 7 years of walking with it's been she's 7 years of walking with this um this um this um >> It's a long time.

>> It's a long time. >> It's a long time. >> And I I hear the joy in your voice of on >> And I I hear the joy in your voice of on >> And I I hear the joy in your voice of on being on the other side of that trial being on the other side of that trial being on the other side of that trial and um seasons where we've gone through and um seasons where we've gone through and um seasons where we've gone through hard things and um hard things and um hard things and um have had the language and maybe the have had the language and maybe the have had the language and maybe the methods of how we process and bring methods of how we process and bring methods of how we process and bring things to the Lord and pray and things to the Lord and pray and things to the Lord and pray and petition, petition, petition, but like when you're in the long game but like when you're in the long game but like when you're in the long game and you're in the on the long game of and you're in the on the long game of and you're in the on the long game of the hard thing, you know, I'm maybe I'm the hard thing, you know, I'm maybe I'm the hard thing, you know, I'm maybe I'm even asking you like when people are even asking you like when people are even asking you like when people are bumping up against things that are new bumping up against things that are new bumping up against things that are new trials. I'm I'm even I mean even talking trials. I'm I'm even I mean even talking trials. I'm I'm even I mean even talking about this month we're like about this month we're like about this month we're like we're having to dial up some new tools we're having to dial up some new tools we're having to dial up some new tools of how we're petitioning the Lord, how of how we're petitioning the Lord, how of how we're petitioning the Lord, how we're positioning our own hearts. Like we're positioning our own hearts. Like we're positioning our own hearts. Like we don't want to become tough for the we don't want to become tough for the we don't want to become tough for the Lord. We want to be tender. Lord. We want to be tender. Lord. We want to be tender. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Um as the trials get harder, sometimes >> Um as the trials get harder, sometimes >> Um as the trials get harder, sometimes darker, feel more isolating, how do we darker, feel more isolating, how do we darker, feel more isolating, how do we level up in our petition to the Lord, in level up in our petition to the Lord, in level up in our petition to the Lord, in our in our complaints to Jesus, and um our in our complaints to Jesus, and um our in our complaints to Jesus, and um in a way that is still faith-bolstering? in a way that is still faith-bolstering? in a way that is still faith-bolstering? I think we're running into that right I think we're running into that right I think we're running into that right now as young parents. And I might There now as young parents. And I might There now as young parents. And I might There might be a lot of young parents in our might be a lot of young parents in our might be a lot of young parents in our church, too, that when you walk through church, too, that when you walk through church, too, that when you walk through that with your kids, man, it is it's that with your kids, man, it is it's that with your kids, man, it is it's it's painful. It's isolating. Lots of it's painful. It's isolating. Lots of it's painful. It's isolating. Lots of different things. Um what did you learn different things. Um what did you learn different things. Um what did you learn in that season that you would say to a in that season that you would say to a in that season that you would say to a young family in the midst of that?

>> 7 years is a long, long time. And the >> 7 years is a long, long time. And the fact that fact that fact that you and Carly are still crying out to you and Carly are still crying out to you and Carly are still crying out to the Lord and even asking like how do we the Lord and even asking like how do we the Lord and even asking like how do we stay tender and not get tough stay tender and not get tough stay tender and not get tough is just such evidence that he's got you, is just such evidence that he's got you, is just such evidence that he's got you, you know? The fact that your faith is you know? The fact that your faith is you know? The fact that your faith is still even asking that is still even asking that is still even asking that is is beautiful. is beautiful. is beautiful. And it's I I think it's hard The trial And it's I I think it's hard The trial And it's I I think it's hard The trial gets harder the longer it goes. Like I gets harder the longer it goes. Like I gets harder the longer it goes. Like I know someone would say know someone would say know someone would say you know, if you like an illustration, you know, if you like an illustration, you know, if you like an illustration, like you get used to turbulence. like you get used to turbulence. like you get used to turbulence. I don't I mean, with it when when it's I don't I mean, with it when when it's I don't I mean, with it when when it's with your kid, I don't think it gets with your kid, I don't think it gets with your kid, I don't think it gets easier. I think it gets harder the easier. I think it gets harder the easier. I think it gets harder the longer longer that it goes. So longer longer that it goes. So longer longer that it goes. So So I I I just I respect you and Carly so So I I I just I respect you and Carly so So I I I just I respect you and Carly so much for much for much for holding on to Jesus through those 7 holding on to Jesus through those 7 holding on to Jesus through those 7 years. years. years. It's a long time. And to It's a long time. And to It's a long time. And to to to know that even your holding on is to to know that even your holding on is to to know that even your holding on is his grace in your life. It's good. You his grace in your life. It's good. You his grace in your life. It's good. You know? Like the fact that we even are know? Like the fact that we even are know? Like the fact that we even are asking how do we not asking how do we not asking how do we not have a tough hearts right now. That's have a tough hearts right now. That's have a tough hearts right now. That's him at work, you know? And the same God him at work, you know? And the same God him at work, you know? And the same God that is that is that is holding on to you is the same God that holding on to you is the same God that holding on to you is the same God that there is some fruit There is some there is some fruit There is some there is some fruit There is some beautiful fruit on the other, you know, beautiful fruit on the other, you know, beautiful fruit on the other, you know, on the other side of it.

on the other side of it. on the other side of it. I It's so It's so tough when you I It's so It's so tough when you I It's so It's so tough when you have a testimony of God getting you have a testimony of God getting you have a testimony of God getting you through a trial through a trial through a trial to know what to share to know what to share to know what to share because you don't want to ever give the because you don't want to ever give the because you don't want to ever give the impression that you think impression that you think impression that you think God loves you more cuz you're on the God loves you more cuz you're on the God loves you more cuz you're on the other side of it. other side of it. other side of it. Because when when Because when when Because when when a different trial, we were talking about a different trial, we were talking about a different trial, we were talking about pandas, which is a It's a pandas, which is a It's a pandas, which is a It's a um acronym for a pedia- pediatric It's um acronym for a pedia- pediatric It's um acronym for a pedia- pediatric It's an It's a neurological disorder. an It's a neurological disorder. an It's a neurological disorder. Basically strep in the brain. is what Basically strep in the brain. is what Basically strep in the brain. is what pandas is. pandas is. pandas is. But before that, we we had the years of But before that, we we had the years of But before that, we we had the years of infertility, which which people in our infertility, which which people in our infertility, which which people in our church have church have church have heard us talk about. heard us talk about. heard us talk about. Um I remember when people would Um I remember when people would Um I remember when people would would share their story of like, "We would share their story of like, "We would share their story of like, "We wrestled with infertility, and then God wrestled with infertility, and then God wrestled with infertility, and then God provided." provided." provided." I had a mixed reaction when I heard it I had a mixed reaction when I heard it I had a mixed reaction when I heard it as someone who was in it, which was, as someone who was in it, which was, as someone who was in it, which was, "I'm so glad, and I do believe that God "I'm so glad, and I do believe that God "I'm so glad, and I do believe that God is good. But what if he's not What if is good. But what if he's not What if is good. But what if he's not What if he's not going to do that to me?" he's not going to do that to me?" he's not going to do that to me?" You know? You know? You know? What like What if that's not What if What like What if that's not What if What like What if that's not What if that's not for me?

that's not for me? that's not for me? Um So I I was really rejoicing, but I Um So I I was really rejoicing, but I Um So I I was really rejoicing, but I still was was still was was still was was was Now, I was in my young 20s, mid-20s. was Now, I was in my young 20s, mid-20s. was Now, I was in my young 20s, mid-20s. I was I was I was less mature and sanctified than I am less mature and sanctified than I am less mature and sanctified than I am now. But sometimes the testimony I now. But sometimes the testimony I now. But sometimes the testimony I especially if it was kind of shared especially if it was kind of shared especially if it was kind of shared flippantly, like, "We prayed and God flippantly, like, "We prayed and God flippantly, like, "We prayed and God answered." As if if it as if it as if answered." As if if it as if it as if answered." As if if it as if it as if you the other side of the trial you the other side of the trial you the other side of the trial doesn't doesn't doesn't end uh end uh end uh um that if you pray, it's it's um that if you pray, it's it's um that if you pray, it's it's guaranteed. guaranteed. guaranteed. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> You know, that and and so I never want >> You know, that and and so I never want >> You know, that and and so I never want to give that that impression that "Hey, to give that that impression that "Hey, to give that that impression that "Hey, we were in a trial, and we prayed, and we were in a trial, and we prayed, and we were in a trial, and we prayed, and then boom, God delivered." There There's then boom, God delivered." There There's then boom, God delivered." There There's uh a lot uh a lot uh a lot There are time There's a lot of times There are time There's a lot of times There are time There's a lot of times that that he doesn't deliver this side that that he doesn't deliver this side that that he doesn't deliver this side of heaven. of heaven. of heaven. And then there's times where it's really And then there's times where it's really And then there's times where it's really really long. Like you're talking 7 really long. Like you're talking 7 really long. Like you're talking 7 years. Some scholars say this is 10 years. Some scholars say this is 10 years. Some scholars say this is 10 years of running from Saul. years of running from Saul. years of running from Saul. Um Um Um the the the What's the passage in in uh that Paul What's the passage in in uh that Paul What's the passage in in uh that Paul says um says um says um these temporary sufferings are creating these temporary sufferings are creating these temporary sufferings are creating in us uh an incomparable glory.

in us uh an incomparable glory. in us uh an incomparable glory. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Uh and then I'm and then he's and then >> Uh and then I'm and then he's and then >> Uh and then I'm and then he's and then that's in Romans 8:17. And then in 1 that's in Romans 8:17. And then in 1 that's in Romans 8:17. And then in 1 Corinthians or second no, 2 Corinthians Corinthians or second no, 2 Corinthians Corinthians or second no, 2 Corinthians 4 4 4 it's um it's um it's um that the uh that the uh that the uh the the suffering of this world is not the the suffering of this world is not the the suffering of this world is not worthy being compared to the glory worthy being compared to the glory worthy being compared to the glory that's going to be revealed in us. that's going to be revealed in us. that's going to be revealed in us. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> So, >> So, >> So, I remember this with my dad seeing his I remember this with my dad seeing his I remember this with my dad seeing his hands, you know, I've shared before when hands, you know, I've shared before when hands, you know, I've shared before when when he had ALS and and uh seeing his when he had ALS and and uh seeing his when he had ALS and and uh seeing his hands just deteriorate. And that verse hands just deteriorate. And that verse hands just deteriorate. And that verse really stuck out my my head and heart as really stuck out my my head and heart as really stuck out my my head and heart as we as we were talking that we as we were talking that we as we were talking that dang, this is so intense. dang, this is so intense. dang, this is so intense. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> But according to this verse, this means >> But according to this verse, this means >> But according to this verse, this means that the glory in front of us must be that the glory in front of us must be that the glory in front of us must be even more intense than I imagined. even more intense than I imagined. even more intense than I imagined. So, that that that the intensity of the So, that that that the intensity of the So, that that that the intensity of the pain pain pain actually shows you even more how intense actually shows you even more how intense actually shows you even more how intense the glory is going to be. the glory is going to be. the glory is going to be. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Do you know? >> Do you know? >> Do you know? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Like the glory's infinitely greater than >> Like the glory's infinitely greater than >> Like the glory's infinitely greater than the pain. So, if the pain is more than I the pain. So, if the pain is more than I the pain. So, if the pain is more than I can bear, that must mean the glory is can bear, that must mean the glory is can bear, that must mean the glory is even better than I imagined. even better than I imagined. even better than I imagined. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Do you know? >> Do you know? >> Do you know? >> It's good. >> It's good. >> It's good. >> But >> But >> But I would say, dude, I I don't I don't I would say, dude, I I don't I don't I would say, dude, I I don't I don't don't I wouldn't put pressure on on you don't I wouldn't put pressure on on you don't I wouldn't put pressure on on you on you guys on like here's how you have on you guys on like here's how you have on you guys on like here's how you have to pray this way differently or have to pray this way differently or have to pray this way differently or have this exact thing. The fact that you just this exact thing. The fact that you just this exact thing. The fact that you just even want to pray even want to pray even want to pray >> Mhm.

>> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> you know? >> you know? >> you know? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> In the midst of the trial is >> In the midst of the trial is >> In the midst of the trial is just just just >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> just keep going to him. >> just keep going to him. >> just keep going to him. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Good. >> Good. >> Good. >> You know? You There's no magic formula. >> You know? You There's no magic formula. >> You know? You There's no magic formula. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> You know? >> You know? >> You know? >> Well, when you share your story and and >> Well, when you share your story and and >> Well, when you share your story and and we've seen the journey of of we've seen the journey of of we've seen the journey of of you know, even the the book you put out you know, even the the book you put out you know, even the the book you put out with Eden this past year, man, we are with Eden this past year, man, we are with Eden this past year, man, we are nothing but inspired by it. It's nothing but inspired by it. It's nothing but inspired by it. It's beautiful, too, cuz I think there is beautiful, too, cuz I think there is beautiful, too, cuz I think there is that element of sometimes when you share that element of sometimes when you share that element of sometimes when you share that testimony and, you know, not want a that testimony and, you know, not want a that testimony and, you know, not want a comparison to creep in, but then I'm comparison to creep in, but then I'm comparison to creep in, but then I'm like, man, we've tried to surround like, man, we've tried to surround like, man, we've tried to surround people who have like who understood our people who have like who understood our people who have like who understood our situation. You know, Case has been such situation. You know, Case has been such situation. You know, Case has been such a support for you cuz not many not many a support for you cuz not many not many a support for you cuz not many not many moms can even moms can even moms can even >> It's a it's same line. >> It's a it's same line. >> It's a it's same line. >> I think we've talked to in our church I >> I think we've talked to in our church I >> I think we've talked to in our church I think I've met like three people of all think I've met like three people of all think I've met like three people of all the people in our church. There's a lot the people in our church. There's a lot the people in our church. There's a lot of people in our church. So it's it's it of people in our church. So it's it's it of people in our church. So it's it's it is it is rare. is it is rare. is it is rare. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Give it to Just so people who are trying >> Give it to Just so people who are trying >> Give it to Just so people who are trying to They might be trying to Google like to They might be trying to Google like to They might be trying to Google like tell us what you feel comfortable tell us what you feel comfortable tell us what you feel comfortable sharing. sharing. sharing. >> Yeah, yeah. Just about what it is. So he >> Yeah, yeah. Just about what it is. So he >> Yeah, yeah. Just about what it is. So he would have got strep sometime when he would have got strep sometime when he would have got strep sometime when he was three or four and then at and maybe was three or four and then at and maybe was three or four and then at and maybe five and six lot of behavior issues five and six lot of behavior issues five and six lot of behavior issues started come up. We're like, "Man, is started come up. We're like, "Man, is started come up. We're like, "Man, is this is this going on?" Like extreme this is this going on?" Like extreme this is this going on?" Like extreme behaviors. So high highs and low lows.

behaviors. So high highs and low lows. behaviors. So high highs and low lows. Started a journey. We thought it was Started a journey. We thought it was Started a journey. We thought it was something and then you find a lot of something and then you find a lot of something and then you find a lot of people who have their kids have it. It's people who have their kids have it. It's people who have their kids have it. It's a long journey even getting the a long journey even getting the a long journey even getting the diagnosis cuz it's so unexplainable and diagnosis cuz it's so unexplainable and diagnosis cuz it's so unexplainable and you might get a anxiety diagnosis first you might get a anxiety diagnosis first you might get a anxiety diagnosis first or you might get So at one point he got, or you might get So at one point he got, or you might get So at one point he got, you know, three or four diagnoses and you know, three or four diagnoses and you know, three or four diagnoses and then we had one doctor look at him be then we had one doctor look at him be then we had one doctor look at him be like, "There's something else going on like, "There's something else going on like, "There's something else going on with all these things." And so we we with all these things." And so we we with all these things." And so we we actually actually actually finally got the test that checked his finally got the test that checked his finally got the test that checked his blood and they're like, "Oh, when's the blood and they're like, "Oh, when's the blood and they're like, "Oh, when's the last time he was sick?" And they're last time he was sick?" And they're last time he was sick?" And they're like, like, like, "Oh, his his blood There's strep in his "Oh, his his blood There's strep in his "Oh, his his blood There's strep in his blood right now." He's got strep in his blood right now." He's got strep in his blood right now." He's got strep in his system. We're like, "He hasn't had strep system. We're like, "He hasn't had strep system. We're like, "He hasn't had strep I don't know the last time." So I don't know the last time." So I don't know the last time." So the journey is like it's been anxiety the journey is like it's been anxiety the journey is like it's been anxiety for him has been really intense. And so for him has been really intense. And so for him has been really intense. And so I mean if you if anyone who's dealt with I mean if you if anyone who's dealt with I mean if you if anyone who's dealt with anxiety in children it's it's anxiety in children it's it's anxiety in children it's it's debilitating for kids. debilitating for kids. debilitating for kids. It's the nighttime routine. I mean all It's the nighttime routine. I mean all It's the nighttime routine. I mean all of it. Just every I mean you know, we of it. Just every I mean you know, we of it. Just every I mean you know, we were talking about I had him on the lake were talking about I had him on the lake were talking about I had him on the lake this this past week for vacation. It was this this past week for vacation. It was this this past week for vacation. It was it was We're talking about this the it was We're talking about this the it was We're talking about this the schedule that we went over 20 times that schedule that we went over 20 times that schedule that we went over 20 times that Here's the schedule hasn't changed, you Here's the schedule hasn't changed, you Here's the schedule hasn't changed, you know, he's having fun. He's jumping off know, he's having fun. He's jumping off know, he's having fun. He's jumping off cliffs doing the lake thing. But then cliffs doing the lake thing. But then cliffs doing the lake thing. But then you know, the the the things the cycle you know, the the the things the cycle you know, the the the things the cycle has to play in his head to make sure has to play in his head to make sure has to play in his head to make sure that thing's safe, you know.

that thing's safe, you know. that thing's safe, you know. So as he's heading into preteen years So as he's heading into preteen years So as he's heading into preteen years and you know, we're seeing some and you know, we're seeing some and you know, we're seeing some developmental growth in him and I could developmental growth in him and I could developmental growth in him and I could see the struggle in him. You know, even see the struggle in him. You know, even see the struggle in him. You know, even even we were up at family camp at Forest even we were up at family camp at Forest even we were up at family camp at Forest Home and you know, he's he's going to Home and you know, he's he's going to Home and you know, he's he's going to these youth group settings and he's these youth group settings and he's these youth group settings and he's like, "Man, I'm struggling. I don't know like, "Man, I'm struggling. I don't know like, "Man, I'm struggling. I don't know if I believe all this stuff." And I'm if I believe all this stuff." And I'm if I believe all this stuff." And I'm like, "Dude, these are great questions like, "Dude, these are great questions like, "Dude, these are great questions ask. Let's talk about it." ask. Let's talk about it." ask. Let's talk about it." But his anxiety is like it's But his anxiety is like it's But his anxiety is like it's >> it's it's pretty intense. And so but we >> it's it's pretty intense. And so but we >> it's it's pretty intense. And so but we know the cause of anxiety is that know the cause of anxiety is that know the cause of anxiety is that basically the strep in his brain is just basically the strep in his brain is just basically the strep in his brain is just kind of rewired his brain to think of kind of rewired his brain to think of kind of rewired his brain to think of these different paths. And so, there's a these different paths. And so, there's a these different paths. And so, there's a lot of different things that you can do, lot of different things that you can do, lot of different things that you can do, a lot of different stuff to attack it. a lot of different stuff to attack it. a lot of different stuff to attack it. Sometimes you can get tonsils removed Sometimes you can get tonsils removed Sometimes you can get tonsils removed and that helps. So, we've done that and and that helps. So, we've done that and and that helps. So, we've done that and there's basically no like set plan for there's basically no like set plan for there's basically no like set plan for how to to heal kids with PANDAS, but how to to heal kids with PANDAS, but how to to heal kids with PANDAS, but it's it's pretty it's pretty intense. it's it's pretty it's pretty intense. it's it's pretty it's pretty intense. The way I describe it for someone The way I describe it for someone The way I describe it for someone shortly is like we've got high highs shortly is like we've got high highs shortly is like we've got high highs >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> the kid jumps dirt bikes. He's got the >> the kid jumps dirt bikes. He's got the >> the kid jumps dirt bikes. He's got the adrenaline push. He's he was you know, adrenaline push. He's he was you know, adrenaline push. He's he was you know, dropping in on vert ramps when he was 7 dropping in on vert ramps when he was 7 dropping in on vert ramps when he was 7 years old and he'll be like, "What the years old and he'll be like, "What the years old and he'll be like, "What the heck?" And I'm like, "So, the adrenaline heck?" And I'm like, "So, the adrenaline heck?" And I'm like, "So, the adrenaline push." And then low lows, just a lot of push." And then low lows, just a lot of push." And then low lows, just a lot of you know, intense anxiety. So, it's been you know, intense anxiety. So, it's been you know, intense anxiety. So, it's been a journey and you know, we have a we a journey and you know, we have a we a journey and you know, we have a we have a lot of kids in our house. We got have a lot of kids in our house. We got have a lot of kids in our house. We got four and one on the way and so it's a four and one on the way and so it's a four and one on the way and so it's a it's a party, but it's you know, "Yeah, it's a party, but it's you know, "Yeah, it's a party, but it's you know, "Yeah, dude, let's go." And then but to have dude, let's go." And then but to have dude, let's go." And then but to have the the the to have the to have [laughter] the to have the to have [laughter] the to have the to have [laughter] the oldest to have the oldest struggling oldest to have the oldest struggling oldest to have the oldest struggling with that it's a bit of a you know, it with that it's a bit of a you know, it with that it's a bit of a you know, it kind of sets a lot of the pace of our kind of sets a lot of the pace of our kind of sets a lot of the pace of our house into a into a difficult place. And house into a into a difficult place. And house into a into a difficult place. And so, we're really we're we're currently so, we're really we're we're currently so, we're really we're we're currently praying for that. Like we know that praying for that. Like we know that praying for that. Like we know that breakthrough breakthrough breakthrough >> Mhm.

>> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> through him is going to it's a trickle >> through him is going to it's a trickle >> through him is going to it's a trickle down breakthrough for our family and down breakthrough for our family and down breakthrough for our family and so, it's it's been a journey and we're so, it's it's been a journey and we're so, it's it's been a journey and we're working with a new group of working with a new group of working with a new group of professionals right now and a lot of professionals right now and a lot of professionals right now and a lot of hope and you know, we're not going to hope and you know, we're not going to hope and you know, we're not going to stop, man. It's it's like if one thing stop, man. It's it's like if one thing stop, man. It's it's like if one thing doesn't work, we just doesn't work, we just doesn't work, we just you know, we just we just keep going. you know, we just we just keep going. you know, we just we just keep going. It's it's beautiful, but it's it's been It's it's beautiful, but it's it's been It's it's beautiful, but it's it's been a journey and a journey and a journey and you know, and like I said, we often you know, and like I said, we often you know, and like I said, we often times are just so inspired by we we have times are just so inspired by we we have times are just so inspired by we we have a few people that we know who have had a few people that we know who have had a few people that we know who have had kids walk through it and we're on the kids walk through it and we're on the kids walk through it and we're on the other side of it. Man, we just remind other side of it. Man, we just remind other side of it. Man, we just remind ourselves of that. Man, man, like it can ourselves of that. Man, man, like it can ourselves of that. Man, man, like it can it can change in a moment and it can be it can change in a moment and it can be it can change in a moment and it can be a process. The body can heal. Lots of a process. The body can heal. Lots of a process. The body can heal. Lots of different things different things different things >> and God can bring healing. >> and God can bring healing. >> and God can bring healing. >> Um and so, it's it's been a journey, but >> Um and so, it's it's been a journey, but >> Um and so, it's it's been a journey, but you know, we're we're full of faith. you know, we're we're full of faith. you know, we're we're full of faith. Man, I I I really am. Like I wake up and Man, I I I really am. Like I wake up and Man, I I I really am. Like I wake up and I'm like, "Today today could be the day I'm like, "Today today could be the day I'm like, "Today today could be the day that like he wakes up and things could that like he wakes up and things could that like he wakes up and things could be different, you know?" So, be different, you know?" So, be different, you know?" So, yeah, it's it's been a it's been a yeah, it's it's been a it's been a yeah, it's it's been a it's been a process, but I'm thankful. process, but I'm thankful. process, but I'm thankful. >> I'm proud of you and Carly for for >> I'm proud of you and Carly for for >> I'm proud of you and Carly for for trusting in him, you know? trusting in him, you know? trusting in him, you know? >> They're amazing parents. >> They're amazing parents. >> They're amazing parents. >> I know. >> I know. >> I know. >> They're really incredible. >> They're really incredible. >> They're really incredible. >> I mean, I believe you, too, but Kay's >> I mean, I believe you, too, but Kay's >> I mean, I believe you, too, but Kay's Kay's the mom master. So, yeah, Kay's the mom master. So, yeah, Kay's the mom master. So, yeah, [laughter] yeah, yeah. [laughter] yeah, yeah. [laughter] yeah, yeah. >> You and K are also amazing parents. >> You and K are also amazing parents. >> You and K are also amazing parents. Well, we're kind of already touching on Well, we're kind of already touching on Well, we're kind of already touching on it, so I think I think we should share.

it, so I think I think we should share. it, so I think I think we should share. I mean, I mean, I mean, these trials, gosh, they can crush us, these trials, gosh, they can crush us, these trials, gosh, they can crush us, you know? Like they can just weigh so you know? Like they can just weigh so you know? Like they can just weigh so much and can really bring us down. much and can really bring us down. much and can really bring us down. What's What's the importance of sharing What's What's the importance of sharing What's What's the importance of sharing and these with community, bringing these and these with community, bringing these and these with community, bringing these to one another, and um how are we doing to one another, and um how are we doing to one another, and um how are we doing that here? that here? that here? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Through obviously Psalm 142, David's Through obviously Psalm 142, David's Through obviously Psalm 142, David's going straight to God, but going straight to God, but going straight to God, but it community is a gift where you don't it community is a gift where you don't it community is a gift where you don't have to go to him alone. You can receive have to go to him alone. You can receive have to go to him alone. You can receive prayer from other people. Throughout prayer from other people. Throughout prayer from other people. Throughout this series, just like we did this this series, just like we did this this series, just like we did this weekend, we're going to have times of weekend, we're going to have times of weekend, we're going to have times of extended prayer, and so I encourage you extended prayer, and so I encourage you extended prayer, and so I encourage you to take advantage of that, receive to take advantage of that, receive to take advantage of that, receive prayer from the elders at your prayer from the elders at your prayer from the elders at your congregation. You know, congregation. You know, congregation. You know, >> like come before the Lord and >> like come before the Lord and >> like come before the Lord and and and and let's go to his throne together and find let's go to his throne together and find let's go to his throne together and find mercy and grace in our time of need. mercy and grace in our time of need. mercy and grace in our time of need. And then, And then, And then, if you're not yet in a group at our if you're not yet in a group at our if you're not yet in a group at our church, we have Rooted starting in a church, we have Rooted starting in a church, we have Rooted starting in a couple weeks, and that would be awesome couple weeks, and that would be awesome couple weeks, and that would be awesome for you to do. You would then have for you to do. You would then have for you to do. You would then have people placed around you. So, if you people placed around you. So, if you people placed around you. So, if you haven't been through Rooted, I really haven't been through Rooted, I really haven't been through Rooted, I really invite you to do so. It's a 10-week invite you to do so. It's a 10-week invite you to do so. It's a 10-week Bible study {slash} discipleship journey Bible study {slash} discipleship journey Bible study {slash} discipleship journey {slash} group experience. It's It's {slash} group experience. It's It's {slash} group experience. It's It's really great. You'll be put with a group really great. You'll be put with a group really great. You'll be put with a group of people similar stage of life, of people similar stage of life, of people similar stage of life, but you you'll but you you'll but you you'll you'll be in you'll be in you'll be in in a context where you're not doing this in a context where you're not doing this in a context where you're not doing this alone.

alone. alone. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> wrestling with this alone. >> wrestling with this alone. >> wrestling with this alone. >> Yeah, right. You get to >> Yeah, right. You get to >> Yeah, right. You get to borrow some of the faith borrow some of the faith borrow some of the faith >> Easy to get That's a good way to say it. >> Easy to get That's a good way to say it. >> Easy to get That's a good way to say it. >> from people around you, you know? Yeah, >> from people around you, you know? Yeah, >> from people around you, you know? Yeah, right. right. right. >> That's so beautiful. And and I want I >> That's so beautiful. And and I want I >> That's so beautiful. And and I want I wanted to give a little shout out to um wanted to give a little shout out to um wanted to give a little shout out to um you know, it's so interesting cuz when you know, it's so interesting cuz when you know, it's so interesting cuz when you go through a trial, how isolating you go through a trial, how isolating you go through a trial, how isolating that can be for a parent. So, we adopted that can be for a parent. So, we adopted that can be for a parent. So, we adopted two two girls, and one of them has two two girls, and one of them has two two girls, and one of them has special needs, and our special needs special needs, and our special needs special needs, and our special needs community here at Mariners Church is community here at Mariners Church is community here at Mariners Church is Suzy, incredible. Um we we sharing uh in Suzy, incredible. Um we we sharing uh in Suzy, incredible. Um we we sharing uh in a in a group setting with some staff, a in a group setting with some staff, a in a group setting with some staff, and I was sharing about our family and and I was sharing about our family and and I was sharing about our family and she was like, "Are you not Are you not she was like, "Are you not Are you not she was like, "Are you not Are you not plugged in here with the special needs plugged in here with the special needs plugged in here with the special needs community?" And even just that, how community?" And even just that, how community?" And even just that, how like, man, something so isolating can like, man, something so isolating can like, man, something so isolating can now we're finding community in that in now we're finding community in that in now we're finding community in that in that group of people. They offer these that group of people. They offer these that group of people. They offer these like, you know, half days where you can like, you know, half days where you can like, you know, half days where you can bring your kids and just to get time and bring your kids and just to get time and bring your kids and just to get time and I think it's something so beautiful. I think it's something so beautiful. I think it's something so beautiful. Like that it's it's our church like Like that it's it's our church like Like that it's it's our church like standing in the gap like, "We know how standing in the gap like, "We know how standing in the gap like, "We know how isolating it can be for special needs isolating it can be for special needs isolating it can be for special needs families." And to like families." And to like families." And to like create spaces for them to come and to create spaces for them to come and to create spaces for them to come and to not be embarrassed. Man, it's it can be not be embarrassed. Man, it's it can be not be embarrassed. Man, it's it can be wild. Like Caris sometimes just like, wild. Like Caris sometimes just like, wild. Like Caris sometimes just like, "I'm just straight up embarrassed by "I'm just straight up embarrassed by "I'm just straight up embarrassed by these kiddos in public." And I'm like, these kiddos in public." And I'm like, these kiddos in public." And I'm like, "Dude, they're party, man. I'm having a "Dude, they're party, man. I'm having a "Dude, they're party, man. I'm having a party." I'm [laughter] like, "Catch me party." I'm [laughter] like, "Catch me party." I'm [laughter] like, "Catch me in Costco with like four in the cart, in Costco with like four in the cart, in Costco with like four in the cart, dude. We're we're doing it." But there's dude. We're we're doing it." But there's dude. We're we're doing it." But there's something about um something about um something about um the practical things we're doing to to the practical things we're doing to to the practical things we're doing to to reach people who are we know are in reach people who are we know are in reach people who are we know are in trials. We know a lot of parents with trials. We know a lot of parents with trials. We know a lot of parents with special needs kids are are walking special needs kids are are walking special needs kids are are walking through some hard things and that's through some hard things and that's through some hard things and that's going to be a beautiful thing for our going to be a beautiful thing for our going to be a beautiful thing for our family this past year, you know, just family this past year, you know, just family this past year, you know, just getting support from them. And so, it's getting support from them. And so, it's getting support from them. And so, it's incredible some of the things we're incredible some of the things we're incredible some of the things we're doing to walk with families who are doing to walk with families who are doing to walk with families who are going through some hard times.

going through some hard times. going through some hard times. >> So good. >> So good. >> So good. >> I love it. >> I love it. >> I love it. >> So good. >> So good. >> So good. I love our church. I love our church. I love our church. >> It's beautiful. >> It's beautiful. >> It's beautiful. >> really so grateful right now. >> really so grateful right now. >> really so grateful right now. Eric, thanks for an amazing message. Eric, thanks for an amazing message. Eric, thanks for an amazing message. >> Thank you. Thanks for >> Thank you. Thanks for >> Thank you. Thanks for >> boldly teaching the text and um I'm >> boldly teaching the text and um I'm >> boldly teaching the text and um I'm really excited for the rest of this really excited for the rest of this really excited for the rest of this series. series. series. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Thanks for >> Thanks for >> Thanks for holding the podcast down while I was holding the podcast down while I was holding the podcast down while I was gone. gone. gone. >> Oh, we missed you. We did. We really >> Oh, we missed you. We did. We really >> Oh, we missed you. We did. We really did. did. did. >> How much longer before you go on uh >> How much longer before you go on uh >> How much longer before you go on uh [snorts] maternity leave? [snorts] maternity leave? [snorts] maternity leave? >> Well, we hope >> Well, we hope >> Well, we hope at least 6 more weeks, but you never at least 6 more weeks, but you never at least 6 more weeks, but you never know. They tell me I don't get to know. They tell me I don't get to know. They tell me I don't get to decide. So, decide. So, decide. So, >> Oh, okay. [laughter] >> Oh, okay. [laughter] >> Oh, okay. [laughter] >> it could come sooner. >> it could come sooner. >> it could come sooner. >> Who's this they? >> Who's this they? >> Who's this they? >> The doctors. >> The doctors. >> The doctors. >> Okay, okay. >> Okay, okay. >> Okay, okay. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> So, that means that means you you will >> So, that means that means you you will >> So, that means that means you you will be on this podcast throughout this be on this podcast throughout this be on this podcast throughout this series. series. series. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Hopefully. If not, according to the >> Hopefully. If not, according to the >> Hopefully. If not, according to the doctors, we doctors, we doctors, we >> Yes, through the series, I will be I >> Yes, through the series, I will be I >> Yes, through the series, I will be I will be here and then some fun things will be here and then some fun things will be here and then some fun things are coming up after that. are coming up after that. are coming up after that. >> Yeah, we'll we'll share more later. >> Yeah, we'll we'll share more later. >> Yeah, we'll we'll share more later. >> Yeah, so fun. We're excited. Steven, >> Yeah, so fun. We're excited. Steven, >> Yeah, so fun. We're excited. Steven, thanks for joining us. thanks for joining us. thanks for joining us. >> Yeah, of course. It's been a pleasure to >> Yeah, of course. It's been a pleasure to >> Yeah, of course. It's been a pleasure to be here. Thanks so much. be here. Thanks so much. be here. Thanks so much. >> Thank you guys for listening to the If I >> Thank you guys for listening to the If I >> Thank you guys for listening to the If I Had More Time podcast.