If I Had More Time | A Bronze Snake and God’s Love

Welcome to the If I Had More Time Welcome to the If I Had More Time podcast. I am here with our teaching podcast. I am here with our teaching podcast. I am here with our teaching pastor Steve Bang Lee. My name is pastor Steve Bang Lee. My name is pastor Steve Bang Lee. My name is Dallas. I get to be the young adults Dallas. I get to be the young adults Dallas. I get to be the young adults pastor and I'm filling in for today, but pastor and I'm filling in for today, but pastor and I'm filling in for today, but great message. Can't wait to jump in great message. Can't wait to jump in great message. Can't wait to jump in Steve a little bit more conversation on Steve a little bit more conversation on Steve a little bit more conversation on this really bizarre this really bizarre this really bizarre >> weird. >> weird. >> weird. >> fun >> fun >> fun >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> story learning so much. Really great. >> story learning so much. Really great. >> story learning so much. Really great. >> We love snakes. >> We love snakes. >> We love snakes. >> We love snakes. >> We love snakes. >> We love snakes. >> I'm the sort of brancher. >> I'm the sort of brancher. >> I'm the sort of brancher. >> Yeah, I'm I'm I feel like Indiana Jones >> Yeah, I'm I'm I feel like Indiana Jones >> Yeah, I'm I'm I feel like Indiana Jones right now. Like right now. Like right now. Like >> Snakes, I hate snakes. >> Snakes, I hate snakes. >> Snakes, I hate snakes. >> Um but yeah, I just I love this. I was >> Um but yeah, I just I love this. I was >> Um but yeah, I just I love this. I was convicted. I learned. You did a great convicted. I learned. You did a great convicted. I learned. You did a great job of pointing me to Jesus job of pointing me to Jesus job of pointing me to Jesus and I want to dive in like talk a little and I want to dive in like talk a little and I want to dive in like talk a little bit more. You had this opening part bit more. You had this opening part bit more. You had this opening part where it was complaining. Complaining where it was complaining. Complaining where it was complaining. Complaining leads to accusing, attacking. There were leads to accusing, attacking. There were leads to accusing, attacking. There were two generations. They didn't care about two generations. They didn't care about two generations. They didn't care about making sense. So I'm I'm asking you the making sense. So I'm I'm asking you the making sense. So I'm I'm asking you the question. Like how does that work for question. Like how does that work for question. Like how does that work for us? How should we live our life? How do us? How should we live our life? How do us? How should we live our life? How do we watch ourselves from complaining to we watch ourselves from complaining to we watch ourselves from complaining to accusations to attacking?

accusations to attacking? accusations to attacking? >> It's so good. You know, Eric, our senior >> It's so good. You know, Eric, our senior >> It's so good. You know, Eric, our senior pastor, he's on study break. He he does pastor, he's on study break. He he does pastor, he's on study break. He he does such a masterful job unpacking this. such a masterful job unpacking this. such a masterful job unpacking this. Man, it to me it really boils down Man, it to me it really boils down Man, it to me it really boils down to God's character. Like what what is to God's character. Like what what is to God's character. Like what what is central? What is central? Is it God's central? What is central? Is it God's central? What is central? Is it God's character character character or is it the circumstance? The or is it the circumstance? The or is it the circumstance? The circumstance that surrounds us. circumstance that surrounds us. circumstance that surrounds us. So you know, to Eric's point, he So you know, to Eric's point, he So you know, to Eric's point, he mentioned this. mentioned this. mentioned this. Man, in the Psalms Man, in the Psalms Man, in the Psalms like dudes are dudes are saying some like dudes are dudes are saying some like dudes are dudes are saying some pretty aggressive things. pretty aggressive things. pretty aggressive things. >> Yeah, they are. >> Yeah, they are. >> Yeah, they are. >> You know, they're like, "Where are you? >> You know, they're like, "Where are you? >> You know, they're like, "Where are you? Why have you abandoned me?" It's like, Why have you abandoned me?" It's like, Why have you abandoned me?" It's like, "Whoa." "Whoa." "Whoa." Weren't you being swallowed up? Like Weren't you being swallowed up? Like Weren't you being swallowed up? Like aren't you Where's Where's the plague? aren't you Where's Where's the plague? aren't you Where's Where's the plague? Where's the snakes at? Where's the snakes at? Where's the snakes at? But what's beautiful is But what's beautiful is But what's beautiful is they're they're relating with God they're they're relating with God they're they're relating with God according to belief in his character. In according to belief in his character. In according to belief in his character. In other words, they're treating God other words, they're treating God other words, they're treating God according to who he actually is. So according to who he actually is. So according to who he actually is. So I can be honest with you because this is I can be honest with you because this is I can be honest with you because this is who you are. who you are. who you are. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Like, you're going to be faithful to >> Like, you're going to be faithful to >> Like, you're going to be faithful to your covenant. So, if our people are your covenant. So, if our people are your covenant. So, if our people are exiled, I'm like, "What the heck? Like, exiled, I'm like, "What the heck? Like, exiled, I'm like, "What the heck? Like, why aren't you faithful to your why aren't you faithful to your why aren't you faithful to your covenant?" So, there covenant?" So, there covenant?" So, there we can bring our complaints to God in we can bring our complaints to God in we can bring our complaints to God in accordance with his character.

accordance with his character. accordance with his character. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> But man, I think where it goes from >> But man, I think where it goes from >> But man, I think where it goes from complaining complaining complaining by seeing his character, the centrality by seeing his character, the centrality by seeing his character, the centrality of who he is, fearing the Lord, to like of who he is, fearing the Lord, to like of who he is, fearing the Lord, to like accusing. accusing. accusing. I I the language I think that I used was I I the language I think that I used was I I the language I think that I used was like, "character assassination." like, "character assassination." like, "character assassination." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Dude, it's exactly that. >> Dude, it's exactly that. >> Dude, it's exactly that. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> It's when we start seeing our >> It's when we start seeing our >> It's when we start seeing our circumstances circumstances circumstances and now we're like looking at God, and now we're like looking at God, and now we're like looking at God, totally forgot who he is, and we're totally forgot who he is, and we're totally forgot who he is, and we're like, like, like, "This is unfair. "This is unfair. "This is unfair. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> This is wrong." So, now we're seeing God >> This is wrong." So, now we're seeing God >> This is wrong." So, now we're seeing God through the lens of our our through the lens of our our through the lens of our our circumstances instead of seeing our circumstances instead of seeing our circumstances instead of seeing our circumstances through the lens of God's circumstances through the lens of God's circumstances through the lens of God's character and relating with him as so. character and relating with him as so. character and relating with him as so. And man, I And man, I And man, I I know there's a lot of theory, I know there's a lot of theory, I know there's a lot of theory, principle, but I've seen that in my own principle, but I've seen that in my own principle, but I've seen that in my own life, Dallas. And I'm curious for you. life, Dallas. And I'm curious for you. life, Dallas. And I'm curious for you. It is scary how And this is why for me, It is scary how And this is why for me, It is scary how And this is why for me, like the Bible reading plan, the waking like the Bible reading plan, the waking like the Bible reading plan, the waking up and starting my day in scripture is up and starting my day in scripture is up and starting my day in scripture is so crucial. so crucial. so crucial. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> And you know, we were joking around like >> And you know, we were joking around like >> And you know, we were joking around like right before we started. If we were in right before we started. If we were in right before we started. If we were in the Old Testament, I'm convinced I would the Old Testament, I'm convinced I would the Old Testament, I'm convinced I would be leading the charge in complaining. be leading the charge in complaining. be leading the charge in complaining. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Cuz I I I just know myself. >> Cuz I I I just know myself. >> Cuz I I I just know myself. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> And it's crazy how >> And it's crazy how >> And it's crazy how I'm not regularly in the scriptures, I'm not regularly in the scriptures, I'm not regularly in the scriptures, dude, dude, dude, I let my circumstances start to drive me I let my circumstances start to drive me I let my circumstances start to drive me towards grumbling and God, where are you towards grumbling and God, where are you towards grumbling and God, where are you Are you trustworthy? It It's It's a It's Are you trustworthy? It It's It's a It's Are you trustworthy? It It's It's a It's a thin line. It's a thin line. So, a thin line. It's a thin line. So, a thin line. It's a thin line. So, that's why I think I just need his word.

that's why I think I just need his word. that's why I think I just need his word. I know It's not about God's word, but I know It's not about God's word, but I know It's not about God's word, but that's why I need it so bad. that's why I need it so bad. that's why I need it so bad. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> You know, I'm curious how that >> You know, I'm curious how that >> You know, I'm curious how that resonates. resonates. resonates. >> Yeah, it's >> Yeah, it's >> Yeah, it's you know, you notice when you don't have you know, you notice when you don't have you know, you notice when you don't have God's word, don't God's peace, God's God's word, don't God's peace, God's God's word, don't God's peace, God's presence in your life and how quickly we presence in your life and how quickly we presence in your life and how quickly we we naturally drift, how quickly we we naturally drift, how quickly we we naturally drift, how quickly we naturally drift without having God's naturally drift without having God's naturally drift without having God's word, this constant repentance in our word, this constant repentance in our word, this constant repentance in our own life. Yeah, I agree. I It was fun. own life. Yeah, I agree. I It was fun. own life. Yeah, I agree. I It was fun. I'm like, I probably I'm interested I'm like, I probably I'm interested I'm like, I probably I'm interested which which time would I have been which which time would I have been which which time would I have been swallowed up? Probably would have been swallowed up? Probably would have been swallowed up? Probably would have been the first time. Big complainer, like the first time. Big complainer, like the first time. Big complainer, like natural. natural. natural. It's this thing that we have like as It's this thing that we have like as It's this thing that we have like as parents. Like our kids, we didn't have parents. Like our kids, we didn't have parents. Like our kids, we didn't have to teach them, "Okay, here's the proper to teach them, "Okay, here's the proper to teach them, "Okay, here's the proper way to fight, to complain, to say mine." way to fight, to complain, to say mine." way to fight, to complain, to say mine." It's kind of like we have a sin nature It's kind of like we have a sin nature It's kind of like we have a sin nature already and when we say yes to Jesus, already and when we say yes to Jesus, already and when we say yes to Jesus, like the cure, now we have a sin like the cure, now we have a sin like the cure, now we have a sin fighting nature constantly. fighting nature constantly. fighting nature constantly. >> And going back to the condition in every >> And going back to the condition in every >> And going back to the condition in every generation of humanity, do you want our generation of humanity, do you want our generation of humanity, do you want our kids to complain? Do you Have you ever kids to complain? Do you Have you ever kids to complain? Do you Have you ever had that moment where you're like, "That had that moment where you're like, "That had that moment where you're like, "That They they're talking like me right now." They they're talking like me right now." They they're talking like me right now." >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> That's a frightening moment.

>> That's a frightening moment. >> That's a frightening moment. >> You're using my words against me, right? >> You're using my words against me, right? >> You're using my words against me, right? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yes. Yeah, man. And so I think that's >> Yes. Yeah, man. And so I think that's >> Yes. Yeah, man. And so I think that's where where where um for those of you who tuned in to the um for those of you who tuned in to the um for those of you who tuned in to the weekend, you know, at your congregation, weekend, you know, at your congregation, weekend, you know, at your congregation, I'm so grateful that you attended I'm so grateful that you attended I'm so grateful that you attended church. I know there's a lot going on church. I know there's a lot going on church. I know there's a lot going on right now, World Cup, all the things. right now, World Cup, all the things. right now, World Cup, all the things. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> The the really beauty and power of >> The the really beauty and power of >> The the really beauty and power of gathering together, it it's the subtle gathering together, it it's the subtle gathering together, it it's the subtle shift in our brain of like, "Oh, yeah. shift in our brain of like, "Oh, yeah. shift in our brain of like, "Oh, yeah. That's what he's like." That's what he's like." That's what he's like." >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> But when we when we forget that and we >> But when we when we forget that and we >> But when we when we forget that and we only see our circumstances, man, our only see our circumstances, man, our only see our circumstances, man, our hearts are just going to gravitate hearts are just going to gravitate hearts are just going to gravitate towards towards towards >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> um mischaracterizing God, questioning >> um mischaracterizing God, questioning >> um mischaracterizing God, questioning his intent, and before we know it, we his intent, and before we know it, we his intent, and before we know it, we are full on like accusing him. are full on like accusing him. are full on like accusing him. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> You know. >> You know. >> You know. >> And I think going to attending church, >> And I think going to attending church, >> And I think going to attending church, like what that does for me, even singing like what that does for me, even singing like what that does for me, even singing the songs that songs that get stuck in the songs that songs that get stuck in the songs that songs that get stuck in my head all week long. I sing them my head all week long. I sing them my head all week long. I sing them around the house, my kids sing them around the house, my kids sing them around the house, my kids sing them around the house. It's singing around the house. It's singing around the house. It's singing choruses and lines of his faithfulness choruses and lines of his faithfulness choruses and lines of his faithfulness and what that does for me for my own, and what that does for me for my own, and what that does for me for my own, like I need to be in church every week like I need to be in church every week like I need to be in church every week cuz this is so good for my own heart to cuz this is so good for my own heart to cuz this is so good for my own heart to sing his praises, to have scripture sing his praises, to have scripture sing his praises, to have scripture reminding me like he's a good good reminding me like he's a good good reminding me like he's a good good father.

father. father. All any any one of these lines, "You are All any any one of these lines, "You are All any any one of these lines, "You are good. You are" just reminding myself, good. You are" just reminding myself, good. You are" just reminding myself, preaching to myself that you are good. preaching to myself that you are good. preaching to myself that you are good. That God, you are so good. That's right. That God, you are so good. That's right. That God, you are so good. That's right. >> You know, week one of Numbers, remember >> You know, week one of Numbers, remember >> You know, week one of Numbers, remember how Eric he put that chart of like the how Eric he put that chart of like the how Eric he put that chart of like the tribes encamped around his word? tribes encamped around his word? tribes encamped around his word? >> Bro, these people >> Bro, these people >> Bro, these people complained while still encamped around complained while still encamped around complained while still encamped around his word. How much more we have the his word. How much more we have the his word. How much more we have the spirit, but how much more we need to spirit, but how much more we need to spirit, but how much more we need to stay close to God's word? stay close to God's word? stay close to God's word? >> Yeah. And I think it is fascinating it >> Yeah. And I think it is fascinating it >> Yeah. And I think it is fascinating it like there's this passage in the text like there's this passage in the text like there's this passage in the text of, you know, Moses intercedes and it's of, you know, Moses intercedes and it's of, you know, Moses intercedes and it's almost like dot dot dot again. almost like dot dot dot again. almost like dot dot dot again. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Like again, how how many times has Moses >> Like again, how how many times has Moses >> Like again, how how many times has Moses done this, but he's interceding done this, but he's interceding done this, but he's interceding the people he intercedes for the people the people he intercedes for the people the people he intercedes for the people after they've confessed and then God after they've confessed and then God after they've confessed and then God responds. So, what's that sequence? responds. So, what's that sequence? responds. So, what's that sequence? Confession, intercession, Confession, intercession, Confession, intercession, and then there's the unexpected cure. and then there's the unexpected cure. and then there's the unexpected cure. Like, what does that teach us about how Like, what does that teach us about how Like, what does that teach us about how God typically responds to our God typically responds to our God typically responds to our repentance? repentance? repentance? >> That's a great question. >> That's a great question. >> That's a great question. And And And um um um man, the way that you asked you asked it man, the way that you asked you asked it man, the way that you asked you asked it so profoundly, man. I feel like there's so profoundly, man. I feel like there's so profoundly, man. I feel like there's supposed to be like a deep-seated supposed to be like a deep-seated supposed to be like a deep-seated answer. Here's my simple answer. Here's my simple answer. Here's my simple >> It's simple. I think, yeah.

>> It's simple. I think, yeah. >> It's simple. I think, yeah. >> is that he is willing. >> is that he is willing. >> is that he is willing. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> That's what's crazy. >> That's what's crazy. >> That's what's crazy. Is how many times, I mean, our story's Is how many times, I mean, our story's Is how many times, I mean, our story's one of them, but dude, if you go back one of them, but dude, if you go back one of them, but dude, if you go back to last week, water from a rock. If you to last week, water from a rock. If you to last week, water from a rock. If you go back a few weeks prior, go back a few weeks prior, go back a few weeks prior, it's amazing how he God is so willing to it's amazing how he God is so willing to it's amazing how he God is so willing to forgive. forgive. forgive. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> And in that sense, >> And in that sense, >> And in that sense, you know, people have criticisms like, you know, people have criticisms like, you know, people have criticisms like, "The God of the Old Testament, he's a "The God of the Old Testament, he's a "The God of the Old Testament, he's a tyrant." tyrant." tyrant." Or he's there's a childlike delight Or he's there's a childlike delight Or he's there's a childlike delight >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> and an instinct to forgive and be kind >> and an instinct to forgive and be kind >> and an instinct to forgive and be kind and be compassionate. Yeah. You know, and be compassionate. Yeah. You know, and be compassionate. Yeah. You know, that's what I love about going back to that's what I love about going back to that's what I love about going back to his character. his character. his character. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Yeah, and it's a it's a good reminder >> Yeah, and it's a it's a good reminder >> Yeah, and it's a it's a good reminder too of this constant like repentance too of this constant like repentance too of this constant like repentance that we need. that we need. that we need. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> We and we we were talking about this >> We and we we were talking about this >> We and we we were talking about this before of how much we can put the weight before of how much we can put the weight before of how much we can put the weight on ourselves. Like, on ourselves. Like, on ourselves. Like, you know, you were asking like, "Why do you know, you were asking like, "Why do you know, you were asking like, "Why do you Christians struggle with the you Christians struggle with the you Christians struggle with the gospel?" Like, we that's what we were gospel?" Like, we that's what we were gospel?" Like, we that's what we were about before we push record and um you about before we push record and um you about before we push record and um you know, if I'm honest, why do I struggle know, if I'm honest, why do I struggle know, if I'm honest, why do I struggle with the gospel? Uh cuz I can get so with the gospel? Uh cuz I can get so with the gospel? Uh cuz I can get so comfortable and I can put pressure on comfortable and I can put pressure on comfortable and I can put pressure on myself to perform. And I'm going to be myself to perform. And I'm going to be myself to perform. And I'm going to be really honest with with everybody here.

really honest with with everybody here. really honest with with everybody here. There are many There are many weeks There are many There are many weeks There are many There are many weeks where I can say, "Oh, ministry's not where I can say, "Oh, ministry's not where I can say, "Oh, ministry's not going well. This has to be a direct like going well. This has to be a direct like going well. This has to be a direct like in like directly cuz of me. Cuz I didn't in like directly cuz of me. Cuz I didn't in like directly cuz of me. Cuz I didn't pray harder. Cuz I didn't do this. Cuz I pray harder. Cuz I didn't do this. Cuz I pray harder. Cuz I didn't do this. Cuz I didn't do that." And then it's you know, didn't do that." And then it's you know, didn't do that." And then it's you know, rubber ducking myself. Like talking to rubber ducking myself. Like talking to rubber ducking myself. Like talking to myself. I'm like "Oh, that sounds That's myself. I'm like "Oh, that sounds That's myself. I'm like "Oh, that sounds That's awful. Like that's that's not how this awful. Like that's that's not how this awful. Like that's that's not how this works." So like why do why do we works." So like why do why do we works." So like why do why do we Christians why why do we struggle Christians why why do we struggle Christians why why do we struggle with the idea of the gospel and with the idea of the gospel and with the idea of the gospel and repentance and constant need? repentance and constant need? repentance and constant need? >> Yeah, man. I um >> Yeah, man. I um >> Yeah, man. I um that's why I asked you cuz I wanted to that's why I asked you cuz I wanted to that's why I asked you cuz I wanted to know. know. know. There's probably so many reasons and There's probably so many reasons and There's probably so many reasons and there's different backgrounds. We there's different backgrounds. We there's different backgrounds. We experience this differently. experience this differently. experience this differently. But I mean But I mean But I mean man man man we're like Orange County, Southern we're like Orange County, Southern we're like Orange County, Southern California and beyond. California and beyond. California and beyond. So much of our culture is about earning. So much of our culture is about earning. So much of our culture is about earning. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I mean, dude, even our family of origin >> I mean, dude, even our family of origin >> I mean, dude, even our family of origin like if you grow up in a really healthy like if you grow up in a really healthy like if you grow up in a really healthy household where you know, mom and dad household where you know, mom and dad household where you know, mom and dad and dad affirmed and dad affirmed and dad affirmed even in the most healthy household even in the most healthy household even in the most healthy household we knew that getting good grades led to we knew that getting good grades led to we knew that getting good grades led to pats on the back. So even if mom and dad pats on the back. So even if mom and dad pats on the back. So even if mom and dad never intended to communicate earning never intended to communicate earning never intended to communicate earning something along the way it translated.

something along the way it translated. something along the way it translated. Right? So everything in our culture Right? So everything in our culture Right? So everything in our culture pulls towards us pulls us towards pulls towards us pulls us towards pulls towards us pulls us towards earning. earning. earning. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So when the gospel, which is totally >> So when the gospel, which is totally >> So when the gospel, which is totally countercultural when it like shows up we countercultural when it like shows up we countercultural when it like shows up we don't know what to do with this thing. don't know what to do with this thing. don't know what to do with this thing. We're like, "This is weird. It's too We're like, "This is weird. It's too We're like, "This is weird. It's too easy. It's too simple." And so that's easy. It's too simple." And so that's easy. It's too simple." And so that's why I And dude, that's why I think so why I And dude, that's why I think so why I And dude, that's why I think so much of the Old Testament much of the Old Testament much of the Old Testament is stories that weave the gospel. Right? is stories that weave the gospel. Right? is stories that weave the gospel. Right? Like if Paul said this was Peter said Like if Paul said this was Peter said Like if Paul said this was Peter said this was written down for our this was written down for our this was written down for our instruction. instruction. instruction. Um Um Um Yeah, Peter said that. And you look at Yeah, Peter said that. And you look at Yeah, Peter said that. And you look at the New Testament, all this gospel the New Testament, all this gospel the New Testament, all this gospel emphasis, it it's because it's so hard emphasis, it it's because it's so hard emphasis, it it's because it's so hard for our flesh, man, you know, to just for our flesh, man, you know, to just for our flesh, man, you know, to just receive and and to trust. receive and and to trust. receive and and to trust. >> It it Yeah. >> It it Yeah. >> It it Yeah. >> What do you think? >> What do you think? >> What do you think? >> No, I I agree. It's the >> No, I I agree. It's the >> No, I I agree. It's the the earning that is it's subtle. It's so the earning that is it's subtle. It's so the earning that is it's subtle. It's so subtle. And as soon as you said that, I subtle. And as soon as you said that, I subtle. And as soon as you said that, I was like, "Yeah, here's was like, "Yeah, here's was like, "Yeah, here's here's the four ways I've done that this here's the four ways I've done that this here's the four ways I've done that this week in my own house." Right? Like, week in my own house." Right? Like, week in my own house." Right? Like, "Hey, if you if you do this, then I "Hey, if you if you do this, then I "Hey, if you if you do this, then I will, you know, we can go and do this."

will, you know, we can go and do this." will, you know, we can go and do this." You know, "If you do these four things, You know, "If you do these four things, You know, "If you do these four things, then you can do this." And there's then you can do this." And there's then you can do this." And there's earning. "Hey, since you have been good, earning. "Hey, since you have been good, earning. "Hey, since you have been good, here is insert here is insert here is insert something." something." something." >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> Right? Like, that's just so instilled >> Right? Like, that's just so instilled >> Right? Like, that's just so instilled and it's like, "How do we how do we and it's like, "How do we how do we and it's like, "How do we how do we break that?" But when you see the gospel break that?" But when you see the gospel break that?" But when you see the gospel and it's it's some of my favorite and it's it's some of my favorite and it's it's some of my favorite stories. I I get to do our Thursday stories. I I get to do our Thursday stories. I I get to do our Thursday night service and when our young adults night service and when our young adults night service and when our young adults come up and it's, you know, "Hey, I'm come up and it's, you know, "Hey, I'm come up and it's, you know, "Hey, I'm looking for a Bible." And I love running looking for a Bible." And I love running looking for a Bible." And I love running to the back and I'm going to find you a to the back and I'm going to find you a to the back and I'm going to find you a Bible. We have a conversation, hand them Bible. We have a conversation, hand them Bible. We have a conversation, hand them the Bible and they're like, "So, what do the Bible and they're like, "So, what do the Bible and they're like, "So, what do I owe you?" I owe you?" I owe you?" You know, like, "How how much does this You know, like, "How how much does this You know, like, "How how much does this cost?" And it's it's such a beautiful cost?" And it's it's such a beautiful cost?" And it's it's such a beautiful like, "This doesn't cost anything for like, "This doesn't cost anything for like, "This doesn't cost anything for you to own a Bible." Like, we we are you to own a Bible." Like, we we are you to own a Bible." Like, we we are putting on the cost and it's a really putting on the cost and it's a really putting on the cost and it's a really beautiful gospel conversation, but it beautiful gospel conversation, but it beautiful gospel conversation, but it just shows that everybody in our culture just shows that everybody in our culture just shows that everybody in our culture like, "There like, "There like, "There There it's too good to be true for it to There it's too good to be true for it to There it's too good to be true for it to be free." Too good to be true. be free." Too good to be true. be free." Too good to be true. >> That's well said. >> That's well said. >> That's well said. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> And that's why >> And that's why >> And that's why I'm just grateful for our church cuz so I'm just grateful for our church cuz so I'm just grateful for our church cuz so much of our teaching, man, it's going to much of our teaching, man, it's going to much of our teaching, man, it's going to go back to Jesus. So grateful for that. go back to Jesus. So grateful for that. go back to Jesus. So grateful for that. We we just need to be saturated in the We we just need to be saturated in the We we just need to be saturated in the gospel over and over and over. And gospel over and over and over. And gospel over and over and over. And Dallas, I'm curious, you used a Dallas, I'm curious, you used a Dallas, I'm curious, you used a beautiful word, repentance.

beautiful word, repentance. beautiful word, repentance. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> How um I'm thinking about the listener >> How um I'm thinking about the listener >> How um I'm thinking about the listener right now who's like, "Wait, I feel like right now who's like, "Wait, I feel like right now who's like, "Wait, I feel like you're saying two opposite things. you're saying two opposite things. you're saying two opposite things. You're saying that we don't earn it, You're saying that we don't earn it, You're saying that we don't earn it, >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> we should never stray away from the >> we should never stray away from the >> we should never stray away from the gospel cuz it's always true cuz one time gospel cuz it's always true cuz one time gospel cuz it's always true cuz one time when we trust him one time he he we have when we trust him one time he he we have when we trust him one time he he we have his forgiveness. his forgiveness. his forgiveness. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But then you're using the word >> But then you're using the word >> But then you're using the word forgiveness forgiveness forgiveness repentance. Like how unpack that for the repentance. Like how unpack that for the repentance. Like how unpack that for the young adult for the tired mom unpack young adult for the tired mom unpack young adult for the tired mom unpack that. that. that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> How do they relate? >> How do they relate? >> How do they relate? >> It's yeah the once and for all been >> It's yeah the once and for all been >> It's yeah the once and for all been forgiven but my sin my decisions is forgiven but my sin my decisions is forgiven but my sin my decisions is separation and I have chosen to go my separation and I have chosen to go my separation and I have chosen to go my own way. I have I have make myself own way. I have I have make myself own way. I have I have make myself Lord really like I I put myself on God's Lord really like I I put myself on God's Lord really like I I put myself on God's throne. Saying look at the thing I can throne. Saying look at the thing I can throne. Saying look at the thing I can do this. I can earn my way. My own do this. I can earn my way. My own do this. I can earn my way. My own selfishness gets in the way and I need selfishness gets in the way and I need selfishness gets in the way and I need to repent of that and it's the analogy to repent of that and it's the analogy to repent of that and it's the analogy that I like to use is like my house. that I like to use is like my house. that I like to use is like my house. >> That dude. >> That dude. >> That dude. >> Like right there there's certain places >> Like right there there's certain places >> Like right there there's certain places when someone comes to my house when someone comes to my house when someone comes to my house they can see all downstairs cuz I swept they can see all downstairs cuz I swept they can see all downstairs cuz I swept like I clean I clean the baseboards for like I clean I clean the baseboards for like I clean I clean the baseboards for you.

you. you. Don't you dare go upstairs. I'm standing Don't you dare go upstairs. I'm standing Don't you dare go upstairs. I'm standing blocking the stairs like all my junk is blocking the stairs like all my junk is blocking the stairs like all my junk is hiding up there hiding up there hiding up there and if Jesus is Lord of my life he has and if Jesus is Lord of my life he has and if Jesus is Lord of my life he has access to every part. So I need to open access to every part. So I need to open access to every part. So I need to open the doors that I am hiding things in my the doors that I am hiding things in my the doors that I am hiding things in my selfishness my shame the the sin and I selfishness my shame the the sin and I selfishness my shame the the sin and I need to allow him to come in and to need to allow him to come in and to need to allow him to come in and to clean that. He has access to every part clean that. He has access to every part clean that. He has access to every part of me and repentance for me is what of me and repentance for me is what of me and repentance for me is what unlocks the door for that. unlocks the door for that. unlocks the door for that. >> Yeah what I hear almost is like >> Yeah what I hear almost is like >> Yeah what I hear almost is like repentance is a mode of relationship repentance is a mode of relationship repentance is a mode of relationship that's already been established. that's already been established. that's already been established. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Right? Can I go back to a household >> Right? Can I go back to a household >> Right? Can I go back to a household illustration? It it's like illustration? It it's like illustration? It it's like the way that I explain repentance to my the way that I explain repentance to my the way that I explain repentance to my kids in conjunction with the gospel is kids in conjunction with the gospel is kids in conjunction with the gospel is like when they screw up or they sin like when they screw up or they sin like when they screw up or they sin against me or whatever they accuse me against me or whatever they accuse me against me or whatever they accuse me for not giving them good food. for not giving them good food. for not giving them good food. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um >> Um >> Um what I'll tell them is like you what I'll tell them is like you what I'll tell them is like you we always have relationship. we always have relationship. we always have relationship. That will never be broken. That will never be broken. That will never be broken. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Like you are my child. That will never >> Like you are my child. That will never >> Like you are my child. That will never change. change. change. But right now because of your disrespect But right now because of your disrespect But right now because of your disrespect like there's some fellowship that's been like there's some fellowship that's been like there's some fellowship that's been like intimacy has been broken off.

like intimacy has been broken off. like intimacy has been broken off. Closeness has been affected. Closeness has been affected. Closeness has been affected. So can you can you please like fess up? So can you can you please like fess up? So can you can you please like fess up? Can we can we like have a Can we can we like have a Can we can we like have a meeting of the minds? meeting of the minds? meeting of the minds? And letting them letting them know And letting them letting them know And letting them letting them know that's repentance. Is that that's repentance. Is that that's repentance. Is that once you trust Jesus, that relationship once you trust Jesus, that relationship once you trust Jesus, that relationship is inseparable. is inseparable. is inseparable. Like the gospel is that strong. Like the gospel is that strong. Like the gospel is that strong. But that ongoing repentance now it it's But that ongoing repentance now it it's But that ongoing repentance now it it's it's the ongoing relationship now that it's the ongoing relationship now that it's the ongoing relationship now that you have for the rest of your life into you have for the rest of your life into you have for the rest of your life into eternity. eternity. eternity. >> And the >> And the >> And the beautiful beautiful beautiful communion we have afterwards. So communion we have afterwards. So communion we have afterwards. So this was like last night my daughter this was like last night my daughter this was like last night my daughter having a rough night. Like my neighbors having a rough night. Like my neighbors having a rough night. Like my neighbors are probably like what's going on in are probably like what's going on in are probably like what's going on in there. Having a rough night. And she there. Having a rough night. And she there. Having a rough night. And she comes in and she apologizes. Hey Dad, comes in and she apologizes. Hey Dad, comes in and she apologizes. Hey Dad, I'm sorry for this this and this. I'm sorry for this this and this. I'm sorry for this this and this. The The The the relationship restored after that, the relationship restored after that, the relationship restored after that, the hugs after that, the the hugs after that, the the hugs after that, the the like sitting on my lap. I'm the like sitting on my lap. I'm the like sitting on my lap. I'm squeezing her like this is my little squeezing her like this is my little squeezing her like this is my little girl back. I'm so proud of like girl back. I'm so proud of like girl back. I'm so proud of like it's almost like my relationship with it's almost like my relationship with it's almost like my relationship with her is even stronger right after that her is even stronger right after that her is even stronger right after that moment. And it's just a good reminder of moment. And it's just a good reminder of moment. And it's just a good reminder of like the love of the father has for us.

like the love of the father has for us. like the love of the father has for us. The vulnerability he has. And he comes The vulnerability he has. And he comes The vulnerability he has. And he comes into those moments. And those are some into those moments. And those are some into those moments. And those are some of my they're really they're hard of my they're really they're hard of my they're really they're hard moments as a parent, but they're really moments as a parent, but they're really moments as a parent, but they're really beautiful moments that I get to hold my beautiful moments that I get to hold my beautiful moments that I get to hold my children and I'm so proud of them and I children and I'm so proud of them and I children and I'm so proud of them and I love them. love them. love them. >> And dude, not only is that a beautiful >> And dude, not only is that a beautiful >> And dude, not only is that a beautiful imagery, I wonder if that's another imagery, I wonder if that's another imagery, I wonder if that's another answer to why people don't experience answer to why people don't experience answer to why people don't experience the gospel or forget the gospel. It's the gospel or forget the gospel. It's the gospel or forget the gospel. It's like man, when I never repent like man, when I never repent like man, when I never repent if I never go back before God and like if I never go back before God and like if I never go back before God and like I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> [snorts] >> Well, A, I don't remember all of I don't >> Well, A, I don't remember all of I don't >> Well, A, I don't remember all of I don't get that, you know, repentance hug as get that, you know, repentance hug as get that, you know, repentance hug as you were saying. you were saying. you were saying. But B, it it's almost like no, I don't But B, it it's almost like no, I don't But B, it it's almost like no, I don't repent because I've already forgotten repent because I've already forgotten repent because I've already forgotten the gospel. the gospel. the gospel. You know? And so man, rep culturally You know? And so man, rep culturally You know? And so man, rep culturally going back to the what is it so hard for going back to the what is it so hard for going back to the what is it so hard for us to believe the gospel? us to believe the gospel? us to believe the gospel? Culturally, everything swims upstream Culturally, everything swims upstream Culturally, everything swims upstream against the gospel. We have to earn against the gospel. We have to earn against the gospel. We have to earn everything. But, on the flip side, um everything. But, on the flip side, um everything. But, on the flip side, um maybe as followers of Jesus, we're maybe as followers of Jesus, we're maybe as followers of Jesus, we're invited to repent more. And that invited to repent more. And that invited to repent more. And that interestingly, counterintuitively, helps interestingly, counterintuitively, helps interestingly, counterintuitively, helps us to experience more of the gospel that us to experience more of the gospel that us to experience more of the gospel that we already have.

we already have. we already have. >> Yeah. That's That's a good word. >> Yeah. That's That's a good word. >> Yeah. That's That's a good word. >> To be a repentant people. Imagine. You >> To be a repentant people. Imagine. You >> To be a repentant people. Imagine. You know, there's a like moves of God, know, there's a like moves of God, know, there's a like moves of God, revivals. Like you trace some of them revivals. Like you trace some of them revivals. Like you trace some of them back and it's beautiful moments of back and it's beautiful moments of back and it's beautiful moments of repentance. That's right. Like having repentance. That's right. Like having repentance. That's right. Like having repentant hearts. Um repentant hearts. Um repentant hearts. Um and there is a and there is a and there is a I get asked all the time, like, "Hey, I I get asked all the time, like, "Hey, I I get asked all the time, like, "Hey, I I don't even know how to approach prayer I don't even know how to approach prayer I don't even know how to approach prayer or time with God." And I try to simplify or time with God." And I try to simplify or time with God." And I try to simplify it. So, I use the ACTS, like adoration, it. So, I use the ACTS, like adoration, it. So, I use the ACTS, like adoration, confession, thanksgiving, supplication. confession, thanksgiving, supplication. confession, thanksgiving, supplication. Just helps me remember. So, I try to How Just helps me remember. So, I try to How Just helps me remember. So, I try to How do I have a daily rhythm of confession? do I have a daily rhythm of confession? do I have a daily rhythm of confession? And there I can always find things that And there I can always find things that And there I can always find things that I need to confess. I need to confess. I need to confess. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It's rare, if ever, that And if I can't >> It's rare, if ever, that And if I can't >> It's rare, if ever, that And if I can't find it, it's because I'm getting in the find it, it's because I'm getting in the find it, it's because I'm getting in the way and I don't want to. way and I don't want to. way and I don't want to. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> So, it's just a healthy heart of and >> So, it's just a healthy heart of and >> So, it's just a healthy heart of and it's recognizing my need for a savior. it's recognizing my need for a savior. it's recognizing my need for a savior. We need to hear that word. We need to hear that word. We need to hear that word. >> That is a good word, remember. >> That is a good word, remember. >> That is a good word, remember. >> We need a cure and you did a good job of >> We need a cure and you did a good job of >> We need a cure and you did a good job of pointing us to the cure. pointing us to the cure. pointing us to the cure. Uh John 3, like the most popular Uh John 3, like the most popular Uh John 3, like the most popular passage.

passage. passage. >> right? >> right? >> right? >> It's shocking. It's on In-N-Out cups. At >> It's shocking. It's on In-N-Out cups. At >> It's shocking. It's on In-N-Out cups. At one point, Forever 21 had it on bags. Uh one point, Forever 21 had it on bags. Uh one point, Forever 21 had it on bags. Uh John 3:16, the guy at every baseball John 3:16, the guy at every baseball John 3:16, the guy at every baseball game. game. game. >> Tim Tebow. >> Tim Tebow. >> Tim Tebow. >> Tim Tebow under his eyes. Like John 3:16 >> Tim Tebow under his eyes. Like John 3:16 >> Tim Tebow under his eyes. Like John 3:16 is everywhere. Like connect us. How do is everywhere. Like connect us. How do is everywhere. Like connect us. How do we How do we connect it? Why would Jesus we How do we connect it? Why would Jesus we How do we connect it? Why would Jesus use this? Like How What What did you use this? Like How What What did you use this? Like How What What did you want the people to sit with in that in want the people to sit with in that in want the people to sit with in that in that comparison? Like so beautiful, that comparison? Like so beautiful, that comparison? Like so beautiful, connecting this story, John 3. Unpack it connecting this story, John 3. Unpack it connecting this story, John 3. Unpack it a little bit. a little bit. a little bit. >> Yeah, I mean, it's such a shocking >> Yeah, I mean, it's such a shocking >> Yeah, I mean, it's such a shocking effect. And really, man, effect. And really, man, effect. And really, man, um let's I didn't share this in the um let's I didn't share this in the um let's I didn't share this in the weekend teaching, but I we can unpack it weekend teaching, but I we can unpack it weekend teaching, but I we can unpack it now. now. now. >> Let's do it. >> Let's do it. >> Let's do it. Yeah, here we go. Yeah, here we go. Yeah, here we go. >> Who is Jesus talking to when he makes >> Who is Jesus talking to when he makes >> Who is Jesus talking to when he makes this comparison and when he busts out this comparison and when he busts out this comparison and when he busts out John 3:16? Dude, he's talking to John 3:16? Dude, he's talking to John 3:16? Dude, he's talking to Nicodemus. He's talking to a religious Nicodemus. He's talking to a religious Nicodemus. He's talking to a religious leader who knows the scriptures inside leader who knows the scriptures inside leader who knows the scriptures inside and out. and out. and out. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, >> So, >> So, for Jesus to share about for Jesus to share about for Jesus to share about the cure that is the disease of sin to the cure that is the disease of sin to the cure that is the disease of sin to this brilliant this brilliant this brilliant leader of the people religiously back leader of the people religiously back leader of the people religiously back then.

then. then. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> And then the tie it to >> And then the tie it to >> And then the tie it to the bronze serpent. the bronze serpent. the bronze serpent. Just how disorienting it must have been. Just how disorienting it must have been. Just how disorienting it must have been. Really, that Really, that Really, that it's really not your works. it's really not your works. it's really not your works. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> It's really not your works. But, >> It's really not your works. But, >> It's really not your works. But, secondly, secondly, secondly, salvation comes in a way that you least salvation comes in a way that you least salvation comes in a way that you least expect. expect. expect. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Like the whole born again is in that, Like the whole born again is in that, Like the whole born again is in that, too. Like too. Like too. Like >> What is going on here? >> What is going on here? >> What is going on here? >> Nicodemus like scratching his head. >> Nicodemus like scratching his head. >> Nicodemus like scratching his head. >> Yeah. Cuz you you brought this up before >> Yeah. Cuz you you brought this up before >> Yeah. Cuz you you brought this up before we hit record. we hit record. we hit record. The bronze serpent, man. Okay, so The bronze serpent, man. Okay, so The bronze serpent, man. Okay, so there's the snake is biting you right there's the snake is biting you right there's the snake is biting you right now and killing me. There's the now and killing me. There's the now and killing me. There's the Satan in the in the garden. But, dude, Satan in the in the garden. But, dude, Satan in the in the garden. But, dude, like the Ten Commandments. like the Ten Commandments. like the Ten Commandments. Don't make don't make a graven image. Don't make don't make a graven image. Don't make don't make a graven image. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, that's another layer of offense. >> So, that's another layer of offense. >> So, that's another layer of offense. >> Yeah, so the So, right before I was >> Yeah, so the So, right before I was >> Yeah, so the So, right before I was like, "Hey, the first time I really read like, "Hey, the first time I really read like, "Hey, the first time I really read this passage, I I finish it and I this passage, I I finish it and I this passage, I I finish it and I stopped. I was like, stopped. I was like, stopped. I was like, 'Was I daydreaming? Did I Did I like 'Was I daydreaming? Did I Did I like 'Was I daydreaming? Did I Did I like What What is happening here?' What What is happening here?' What What is happening here?' So, we have a snake. Aren't snakes like So, we have a snake. Aren't snakes like So, we have a snake. Aren't snakes like the bad guy in this whole story? You the bad guy in this whole story? You the bad guy in this whole story? You know, they're kind of like the dark know, they're kind of like the dark know, they're kind of like the dark side. Like snake's Darth Vader. Like side. Like snake's Darth Vader. Like side. Like snake's Darth Vader. Like isn't a bad thing. And then isn't a bad thing. And then isn't a bad thing. And then now we have now we have now we have like an altar, an image. They They Are like an altar, an image. They They Are like an altar, an image. They They Are they worshipping an image? So, that was they worshipping an image? So, that was they worshipping an image? So, that was like things that I had to rest wrestle like things that I had to rest wrestle like things that I had to rest wrestle with. But, I would love for you to like with. But, I would love for you to like with. But, I would love for you to like dive deeper into that.

dive deeper into that. dive deeper into that. >> Yeah, I mean, if you had to wrestle >> Yeah, I mean, if you had to wrestle >> Yeah, I mean, if you had to wrestle through that, man, think about how much through that, man, think about how much through that, man, think about how much Nicodemus is wrestling with that. He's Nicodemus is wrestling with that. He's Nicodemus is wrestling with that. He's like like like snakes bad. snakes bad. snakes bad. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Bad. Indiana Jones good. >> Bad. Indiana Jones good. >> Bad. Indiana Jones good. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Scripture, truth, reality bad. >> Scripture, truth, reality bad. >> Scripture, truth, reality bad. >> Bad. >> Bad. >> Bad. >> Right? And then he's like, why are you >> Right? And then he's like, why are you >> Right? And then he's like, why are you citing the passage where citing the passage where citing the passage where he made a graven image? he made a graven image? he made a graven image? >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Like those people all died in their sin. >> Like those people all died in their sin. >> Like those people all died in their sin. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> But yes, he cured them through the >> But yes, he cured them through the >> But yes, he cured them through the strangest thing. And and it was almost strangest thing. And and it was almost strangest thing. And and it was almost as if because remember Nicodemus is as if because remember Nicodemus is as if because remember Nicodemus is perplexed. perplexed. perplexed. That's why he came to him that night. That's why he came to him that night. That's why he came to him that night. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> And even when he says like you must be >> And even when he says like you must be >> And even when he says like you must be born again, he has no clue what's going born again, he has no clue what's going born again, he has no clue what's going on. And and it's almost like on. And and it's almost like on. And and it's almost like Jesus is trying to articulate Jesus is trying to articulate Jesus is trying to articulate I know you are the master at behaving. I know you are the master at behaving. I know you are the master at behaving. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Like I I know you and your crew the >> Like I I know you and your crew the >> Like I I know you and your crew the religious sect, Sanhedrin, Pharisees, religious sect, Sanhedrin, Pharisees, religious sect, Sanhedrin, Pharisees, like I got it. You guys are the best of like I got it. You guys are the best of like I got it. You guys are the best of the best. the best. the best. But it's almost like he's saying But it's almost like he's saying But it's almost like he's saying your salvation your salvation your salvation is is is more bizarre and simpler than you know.

more bizarre and simpler than you know. more bizarre and simpler than you know. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> He's here. >> He's here. >> He's here. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> He's here. >> He's here. >> He's here. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You know, and so >> You know, and so >> You know, and so you can see if you go back and read the you can see if you go back and read the you can see if you go back and read the whole chapter 3 of John whole chapter 3 of John whole chapter 3 of John he doesn't get it. he doesn't get it. he doesn't get it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Nicodemus doesn't get it at all. >> Nicodemus doesn't get it at all. >> Nicodemus doesn't get it at all. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Because he's too well-behaved. >> Because he's too well-behaved. >> Because he's too well-behaved. He knows so much. He knows so much. He knows so much. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> But the scandal of the bizarreness of >> But the scandal of the bizarreness of >> But the scandal of the bizarreness of the bronze serpent it hasn't connected the bronze serpent it hasn't connected the bronze serpent it hasn't connected yet. yet. yet. >> Mhm. >> But >> But and I'm I almost want to hold this off and I'm I almost want to hold this off and I'm I almost want to hold this off till later, but I think he got it later. till later, but I think he got it later. till later, but I think he got it later. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Cuz you know, if you go to the end of >> Cuz you know, if you go to the end of >> Cuz you know, if you go to the end of John John John >> go to the end. Mhm. >> go to the end. Mhm. >> go to the end. Mhm. >> If you go to the end of John, he takes >> If you go to the end of John, he takes >> If you go to the end of John, he takes Jesus' body and helps wrap his body. Jesus' body and helps wrap his body. Jesus' body and helps wrap his body. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> There are some scholars who have said >> There are some scholars who have said >> There are some scholars who have said that perhaps maybe when Jesus was lifted that perhaps maybe when Jesus was lifted that perhaps maybe when Jesus was lifted up up up that Nicodemus that Nicodemus that Nicodemus >> Oh, wow. >> Oh, wow. >> Oh, wow. >> from far off he looked >> from far off he looked >> from far off he looked and he was born again. and he was born again. and he was born again. >> He remembered that Remember that >> He remembered that Remember that >> He remembered that Remember that conversation there. Oh. conversation there. Oh. conversation there. Oh. I got chills. That's cool. I got chills. That's cool. I got chills. That's cool. >> I'm mad that I didn't add it to the >> I'm mad that I didn't add it to the >> I'm mad that I didn't add it to the weekend sermons.

weekend sermons. weekend sermons. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. That's beautiful. That's beautiful. That's beautiful. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. So, So, So, >> okay, then what would you say to the >> okay, then what would you say to the >> okay, then what would you say to the listener then who listener then who listener then who is sitting here like you're already is sitting here like you're already is sitting here like you're already loved, saved, okay, I'm hearing you. loved, saved, okay, I'm hearing you. loved, saved, okay, I'm hearing you. Um Um Um maybe the opposite of of Nicodemus like maybe the opposite of of Nicodemus like maybe the opposite of of Nicodemus like I've messed up so much. Um I've messed up so much. Um I've messed up so much. Um maybe this is too good to be true like maybe this is too good to be true like maybe this is too good to be true like what you get you really pastoral at the what you get you really pastoral at the what you get you really pastoral at the end like how can you just end like how can you just end like how can you just pastor the people pastor the people pastor the people for [snorts] them? for [snorts] them? for [snorts] them? >> Yeah. And um man, we're really landing >> Yeah. And um man, we're really landing >> Yeah. And um man, we're really landing hard in John. So, I'm going to stick hard in John. So, I'm going to stick hard in John. So, I'm going to stick with John for a little bit more. with John for a little bit more. with John for a little bit more. So, So, So, a lot of Bible scholars, they contrast a lot of Bible scholars, they contrast a lot of Bible scholars, they contrast John chapter 3 with John chapter 2. John chapter 3 with John chapter 2. John chapter 3 with John chapter 2. So, in John chapter 3, Jesus talks at So, in John chapter 3, Jesus talks at So, in John chapter 3, Jesus talks at night to the religious leader. night to the religious leader. night to the religious leader. But in John chapter 2, But in John chapter 2, But in John chapter 2, Jesus speaks. Man, I might cry. Um he Jesus speaks. Man, I might cry. Um he Jesus speaks. Man, I might cry. Um he speaks to the Samaritan woman at the speaks to the Samaritan woman at the speaks to the Samaritan woman at the well well well at noon. at noon. at noon. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And she's there because she's ashamed of >> And she's there because she's ashamed of >> And she's there because she's ashamed of her sins cuz she's sinned so greatly.

her sins cuz she's sinned so greatly. her sins cuz she's sinned so greatly. Do you remember what she asked for? Do you remember what she asked for? Do you remember what she asked for? >> Water? >> Water? >> Water? >> Water. >> Water. >> Water. The insatiable thirst. The insatiable thirst. The insatiable thirst. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. >> To which he says, I can give you living >> To which he says, I can give you living >> To which he says, I can give you living water. water. water. And so, I think just the invitation is And so, I think just the invitation is And so, I think just the invitation is whether you feel like you have been whether you feel like you have been whether you feel like you have been behaving your butt off like Nicodemus or whether you feel like um or whether you feel like um you have to hide. you have to hide. you have to hide. And even if you go to church, you're And even if you go to church, you're And even if you go to church, you're like sneaking in, you know, at the last like sneaking in, you know, at the last like sneaking in, you know, at the last service sitting all the way in the back. service sitting all the way in the back. service sitting all the way in the back. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Um ashamed of what people will think >> Um ashamed of what people will think >> Um ashamed of what people will think because of what you've done. because of what you've done. because of what you've done. What's crazy is Jesus meets the woman What's crazy is Jesus meets the woman What's crazy is Jesus meets the woman before he even meets before he even meets before he even meets the the religious leader. the the religious leader. the the religious leader. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You know? >> You know? >> You know? And so, you know, I share this, um, And so, you know, I share this, um, And so, you know, I share this, um, I'll stop being all sappy. I'll stop being all sappy. I'll stop being all sappy. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> It's pretty wild that >> It's pretty wild that >> It's pretty wild that um um um >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> I mean, poke fun at this, but like, you >> I mean, poke fun at this, but like, you >> I mean, poke fun at this, but like, you know, the person who was like, they got know, the person who was like, they got know, the person who was like, they got bit by the small snake. bit by the small snake. bit by the small snake. >> Yeah, mhm. [laughter] >> Yeah, mhm. [laughter] >> Yeah, mhm. [laughter] >> It's like a baby snake.

>> It's like a baby snake. >> It's like a baby snake. >> Baby, yeah. >> Baby, yeah. >> Baby, yeah. >> like three drops of poison, and they had >> like three drops of poison, and they had >> like three drops of poison, and they had great faith. And then the person that great faith. And then the person that great faith. And then the person that got bit by like the Anaconda poison. got bit by like the Anaconda poison. got bit by like the Anaconda poison. >> Yeah, I was [laughter] going to say the >> Yeah, I was [laughter] going to say the >> Yeah, I was [laughter] going to say the Anaconda. Anaconda. Anaconda. >> Yeah, you know, and uh, they got like 10 >> Yeah, you know, and uh, they got like 10 >> Yeah, you know, and uh, they got like 10 gallons of poison circulating in their gallons of poison circulating in their gallons of poison circulating in their body. body. body. And zero faith. They were healed exactly And zero faith. They were healed exactly And zero faith. They were healed exactly the same. the same. the same. Like that's the kind of savior that we Like that's the kind of savior that we Like that's the kind of savior that we have. have. have. Is that he came to Earth. He's like, you Is that he came to Earth. He's like, you Is that he came to Earth. He's like, you relate more with Nicodemus? relate more with Nicodemus? relate more with Nicodemus? You relate more with the Samaritan You relate more with the Samaritan You relate more with the Samaritan woman? Coming after you both. I can give woman? Coming after you both. I can give woman? Coming after you both. I can give you water. you water. you water. >> Yeah, so the person who had the 30 >> Yeah, so the person who had the 30 >> Yeah, so the person who had the 30 gallons is gallons is gallons is I don't even know if this is where this I don't even know if this is where this I don't even know if this is where this seems bizarre to me, but why not? I'm seems bizarre to me, but why not? I'm seems bizarre to me, but why not? I'm just going to glance. So, there was a just going to glance. So, there was a just going to glance. So, there was a belief in your heart. Yes. Believe like, belief in your heart. Yes. Believe like, belief in your heart. Yes. Believe like, okay. okay. okay. I I believe there's some form of belief I I believe there's some form of belief I I believe there's some form of belief in me that God can heal me. And then in me that God can heal me. And then in me that God can heal me. And then it's doing what he says. What he's it's doing what he says. What he's it's doing what he says. What he's asking is to look at the bronze serpent. asking is to look at the bronze serpent. asking is to look at the bronze serpent. That's right. Believe and do what we That's right. Believe and do what we That's right. Believe and do what we said, then you can Romans, confess with said, then you can Romans, confess with said, then you can Romans, confess with your mouth, believe in your heart. Like your mouth, believe in your heart. Like your mouth, believe in your heart. Like it's this felt like a salvation message it's this felt like a salvation message it's this felt like a salvation message to me. I was like, we're there. And it to me. I was like, we're there. And it to me. I was like, we're there. And it was so beautiful. Just a good reminder I was so beautiful. Just a good reminder I was so beautiful. Just a good reminder I think for all of us to be reminded of think for all of us to be reminded of think for all of us to be reminded of the gospel, to be reminded that Jesus the gospel, to be reminded that Jesus the gospel, to be reminded that Jesus has saved us, that he is a the cure, has saved us, that he is a the cure, has saved us, that he is a the cure, he's absorbed our sins. It was such a he's absorbed our sins. It was such a he's absorbed our sins. It was such a good reminder of the gospel for me, and good reminder of the gospel for me, and good reminder of the gospel for me, and I hope for so many for a whole church. I I hope for so many for a whole church. I I hope for so many for a whole church. I really hope so. Um, just thank you.

really hope so. Um, just thank you. really hope so. Um, just thank you. Thank you for pointing us to Jesus. Thank you for pointing us to Jesus. Thank you for pointing us to Jesus. Thank you for making much of the name of Thank you for making much of the name of Thank you for making much of the name of Jesus. Thank you for making God's word Jesus. Thank you for making God's word Jesus. Thank you for making God's word come to life with these bizarre, cool come to life with these bizarre, cool come to life with these bizarre, cool stories, the way you connected it. stories, the way you connected it. stories, the way you connected it. You You did such a great job. Um, and You You did such a great job. Um, and You You did such a great job. Um, and thank you for being on the podcast, and thank you for being on the podcast, and thank you for being on the podcast, and thank you all for tuning in to the If I thank you all for tuning in to the If I thank you all for tuning in to the If I Had More Time podcast, and we'll catch Had More Time podcast, and we'll catch Had More Time podcast, and we'll catch you next time.