Is the BAPTISM of the Holy Spirit a REAL Thing?! (What the Bible ACTUALLY Says) | Live Free

Some people get tripped up and they Some people get tripped up and they think until I become nearly sinless, I'm think until I become nearly sinless, I'm think until I become nearly sinless, I'm never going to receive the gift of the never going to receive the gift of the never going to receive the gift of the spirit. And I would just point out it's spirit. And I would just point out it's spirit. And I would just point out it's called a gift. Brother, called a gift. Brother, called a gift. Brother, >> we're going to talk about the baptism of >> we're going to talk about the baptism of >> we're going to talk about the baptism of the Holy Spirit. What is it and how do the Holy Spirit. What is it and how do the Holy Spirit. What is it and how do you get it? you get it? you get it? >> There is one God and there's one story >> There is one God and there's one story >> There is one God and there's one story of salvation that he is writing. That's of salvation that he is writing. That's of salvation that he is writing. That's a continuous thing from Old Testament to a continuous thing from Old Testament to a continuous thing from Old Testament to New Testament. New Testament. New Testament. >> Well, hey Lifree Nation. Before we jump >> Well, hey Lifree Nation. Before we jump >> Well, hey Lifree Nation. Before we jump into the episode, this podcast is into the episode, this podcast is into the episode, this podcast is recorded right here at Lakeoint Church recorded right here at Lakeoint Church recorded right here at Lakeoint Church in Dallas, Texas. But the Lifree Nation in Dallas, Texas. But the Lifree Nation in Dallas, Texas. But the Lifree Nation is spread all over the country and all is spread all over the country and all is spread all over the country and all around the world. So if you've been around the world. So if you've been around the world. So if you've been watching and thinking, man, I wish I watching and thinking, man, I wish I watching and thinking, man, I wish I could be part of something like this, we could be part of something like this, we could be part of something like this, we want to invite you to take a simple next want to invite you to take a simple next want to invite you to take a simple next step, and that is join us for church step, and that is join us for church step, and that is join us for church online. Every weekend, we stream our online. Every weekend, we stream our online. Every weekend, we stream our services live on YouTube, Facebook, and services live on YouTube, Facebook, and services live on YouTube, Facebook, and our church online platform. And it's our church online platform. And it's our church online platform. And it's more than just watching a service. There more than just watching a service. There more than just watching a service. There are live hosts in the chat, prayer teams are live hosts in the chat, prayer teams are live hosts in the chat, prayer teams ready to stand with you, and people all ready to stand with you, and people all ready to stand with you, and people all around the world worshiping together in around the world worshiping together in around the world worshiping together in real time. And so whether you're real time. And so whether you're real time. And so whether you're exploring the faith, coming back to exploring the faith, coming back to exploring the faith, coming back to church, or just looking for a place to church, or just looking for a place to church, or just looking for a place to start, church online is a great way to start, church online is a great way to start, church online is a great way to jump in and experience what God is doing jump in and experience what God is doing jump in and experience what God is doing here at Lake Point. We would love to see here at Lake Point. We would love to see here at Lake Point. We would love to see you in the chat this weekend. And now you in the chat this weekend. And now you in the chat this weekend. And now enjoy the podcast. Let us kick this.

enjoy the podcast. Let us kick this. enjoy the podcast. Let us kick this. >> Well, hey, welcome back to another >> Well, hey, welcome back to another >> Well, hey, welcome back to another episode of the Live Free Podcast. My episode of the Live Free Podcast. My episode of the Live Free Podcast. My name is Carlos Arasin. Today I am name is Carlos Arasin. Today I am name is Carlos Arasin. Today I am excited because I'm here hanging out excited because I'm here hanging out excited because I'm here hanging out with two great men of God. I'm here with with two great men of God. I'm here with with two great men of God. I'm here with Pastor Josh Howard and Pastor Paul Pastor Josh Howard and Pastor Paul Pastor Josh Howard and Pastor Paul Cunningham. Cunningham. Cunningham. >> Woohoo. >> Woohoo. >> Woohoo. >> What's up? coming to you from Lake Point >> What's up? coming to you from Lake Point >> What's up? coming to you from Lake Point Church in Dallas, Texas. And today we're Church in Dallas, Texas. And today we're Church in Dallas, Texas. And today we're going to have a great episode. Pastor going to have a great episode. Pastor going to have a great episode. Pastor Josh, I'm excited for this one. Josh, I'm excited for this one. Josh, I'm excited for this one. >> Me, too. But we've been commandeered by >> Me, too. But we've been commandeered by >> Me, too. But we've been commandeered by the Mormons. the Mormons. the Mormons. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> You went ahead and went there. You just >> You went ahead and went there. You just >> You went ahead and went there. You just went ahead and went there. went ahead and went there. went ahead and went there. >> He went there quick. >> He went there quick. >> He went there quick. >> It's a joke. We'll >> It's a joke. We'll >> It's a joke. We'll >> explain that here in a second. If you >> explain that here in a second. If you >> explain that here in a second. If you don't know where we're talking that don't know where we're talking that don't know where we're talking that escalated quickly. escalated quickly. escalated quickly. >> In addition to what you just brought up, >> In addition to what you just brought up, >> In addition to what you just brought up, we're going to be addressing today 2 we're going to be addressing today 2 we're going to be addressing today 2 Timothy chapter 1. God did not give us a Timothy chapter 1. God did not give us a Timothy chapter 1. God did not give us a spirit of fear or timidity. Uh we're spirit of fear or timidity. Uh we're spirit of fear or timidity. Uh we're going to talk about that. We're going to going to talk about that. We're going to going to talk about that. We're going to talk about the baptism of the Holy talk about the baptism of the Holy talk about the baptism of the Holy Spirit. What is it and how do you get Spirit. What is it and how do you get Spirit. What is it and how do you get it? Talking about it? Talking about it? Talking about >> or is that a thing? >> or is that a thing? >> or is that a thing? >> Or is that even a thing? >> Or is that even a thing? >> Or is that even a thing? >> Because a lot of people are like, "Hey >> Because a lot of people are like, "Hey >> Because a lot of people are like, "Hey man, not sure that's a thing. Doesn't man, not sure that's a thing. Doesn't man, not sure that's a thing. Doesn't that just happen at salvation?" that just happen at salvation?" that just happen at salvation?" >> We ask people on Instagram to submit >> We ask people on Instagram to submit >> We ask people on Instagram to submit their questions and literally it's like, their questions and literally it's like, their questions and literally it's like, "Hey, would you submit questions on the "Hey, would you submit questions on the "Hey, would you submit questions on the baptism of the Holy Spirit?" Literally, baptism of the Holy Spirit?" Literally, baptism of the Holy Spirit?" Literally, one question was, "What is it?" one question was, "What is it?" one question was, "What is it?" >> Okay, there you go. That's what it was. >> Okay, there you go. That's what it was. >> Okay, there you go. That's what it was. >> Continuities and discontinuities between >> Continuities and discontinuities between >> Continuities and discontinuities between the old covenant and the new covenant in the old covenant and the new covenant in the old covenant and the new covenant in the Bible. Very nerdy. And of course, the Bible. Very nerdy. And of course, the Bible. Very nerdy. And of course, uh, uh, uh, >> talk nerdy to me.

>> talk nerdy to me. >> talk nerdy to me. >> It gets better. We're gonna be asking >> it took me a second. >> it took me a second. >> We may actually have to edit that out. >> We may actually have to edit that out. >> We may actually have to edit that out. >> Uh, you're talking to Paul, right? >> Uh, you're talking to Paul, right? >> Uh, you're talking to Paul, right? Because he's not there yet. Because he's not there yet. Because he's not there yet. >> Let's just keep going. >> Let's just keep going. >> Let's just keep going. >> Uh, we're also going to be asking, >> Uh, we're also going to be asking, >> Uh, we're also going to be asking, should Christians try to legally stop should Christians try to legally stop should Christians try to legally stop mosque from being built in their cities? mosque from being built in their cities? mosque from being built in their cities? >> Okay. I'm just going to go ahead and >> Okay. I'm just going to go ahead and >> Okay. I'm just going to go ahead and give a quick like buckle your seat belt. give a quick like buckle your seat belt. give a quick like buckle your seat belt. I know, you know, let me just We're I know, you know, let me just We're I know, you know, let me just We're going to talk I I spent an inordinate going to talk I I spent an inordinate going to talk I I spent an inordinate amount of time this week trying to get amount of time this week trying to get amount of time this week trying to get my head around this question. Uh, so let my head around this question. Uh, so let my head around this question. Uh, so let me just get this out the gate. Um, I me just get this out the gate. Um, I me just get this out the gate. Um, I need you to listen with an open mind need you to listen with an open mind need you to listen with an open mind when we get there. Yep. when we get there. Yep. when we get there. Yep. >> Uh, we may have time to get to it this >> Uh, we may have time to get to it this >> Uh, we may have time to get to it this episode. We're gonna do our best. Uh, episode. We're gonna do our best. Uh, episode. We're gonna do our best. Uh, there's a lot there that may need its there's a lot there that may need its there's a lot there that may need its own episode to and I'll just let own episode to and I'll just let own episode to and I'll just let listeners know the reason we're doing listeners know the reason we're doing listeners know the reason we're doing this. We're not trying to like I think this. We're not trying to like I think this. We're not trying to like I think some people are like, "Dude, you guys some people are like, "Dude, you guys some people are like, "Dude, you guys keep talking about Islam." It's like a keep talking about Islam." It's like a keep talking about Islam." It's like a we live in Dallas. That's like a a thing we live in Dallas. That's like a a thing we live in Dallas. That's like a a thing here. here. here. >> And B, it's like the if people don't >> And B, it's like the if people don't >> And B, it's like the if people don't know, there was just a national news know, there was just a national news know, there was just a national news story came out of McKenna just a few story came out of McKenna just a few story came out of McKenna just a few miles from us. future McKenna campus miles from us. future McKenna campus miles from us. future McKenna campus coming in the next little while.

coming in the next little while. coming in the next little while. >> Good news. >> Good news. >> Good news. >> Yep. Uh maybe maybe it is >> Yep. Uh maybe maybe it is >> Yep. Uh maybe maybe it is but uh I don't think I'm Anyway, let me but uh I don't think I'm Anyway, let me but uh I don't think I'm Anyway, let me just keep uh and so this became a just keep uh and so this became a just keep uh and so this became a national news story because there was a national news story because there was a national news story because there was a massive I mean I think about a thousand massive I mean I think about a thousand massive I mean I think about a thousand people at a city council meeting people at a city council meeting people at a city council meeting protesting opposing the building of a protesting opposing the building of a protesting opposing the building of a pretty significant moss site. We're pretty significant moss site. We're pretty significant moss site. We're going to talk about all of this here in going to talk about all of this here in going to talk about all of this here in a second. became a national news story a second. became a national news story a second. became a national news story because despite all the opposition, city because despite all the opposition, city because despite all the opposition, city council approved it 70. council approved it 70. council approved it 70. >> And so then, dude, this is a major >> And so then, dude, this is a major >> And so then, dude, this is a major question Christians are getting is question Christians are getting is question Christians are getting is >> should Christians legally organize to >> should Christians legally organize to >> should Christians legally organize to try to stop a mosque being built in try to stop a mosque being built in try to stop a mosque being built in their city or and here's the tension. their city or and here's the tension. their city or and here's the tension. I'm going to go ahead and pull my punch I'm going to go ahead and pull my punch I'm going to go ahead and pull my punch and give the tension. Or um religious and give the tension. Or um religious and give the tension. Or um religious liberty is an explicitly Christian liberty is an explicitly Christian liberty is an explicitly Christian concept. Like that's our thing. Like we concept. Like that's our thing. Like we concept. Like that's our thing. Like we kind of came, we're a religion of kind of came, we're a religion of kind of came, we're a religion of invitation, not imposition. and First invitation, not imposition. and First invitation, not imposition. and First Amendment and all the things were made Amendment and all the things were made Amendment and all the things were made by Christians. So, how should Christians by Christians. So, how should Christians by Christians. So, how should Christians think about that? And there's a lot think about that? And there's a lot think about that? And there's a lot there. So, we'll see what we can do.

there. So, we'll see what we can do. there. So, we'll see what we can do. >> I have a couple questions about that. >> I have a couple questions about that. >> I have a couple questions about that. It's going to be fun. So, either on this It's going to be fun. So, either on this It's going to be fun. So, either on this episode or uh the next one or a bonus episode or uh the next one or a bonus episode or uh the next one or a bonus episode because there's quite a bit that episode because there's quite a bit that episode because there's quite a bit that we're going to be covering as well. Uh we're going to be covering as well. Uh we're going to be covering as well. Uh hey, a couple things I want to celebrate hey, a couple things I want to celebrate hey, a couple things I want to celebrate here at Lake Point. Mr. Josh, we just here at Lake Point. Mr. Josh, we just here at Lake Point. Mr. Josh, we just came from at the movies and man, how did came from at the movies and man, how did came from at the movies and man, how did you feel this weekend? you feel this weekend? you feel this weekend? >> Well, we came So, this weekend was our >> Well, we came So, this weekend was our >> Well, we came So, this weekend was our first week not at the movies. So, we first week not at the movies. So, we first week not at the movies. So, we came out of this series, we started last came out of this series, we started last came out of this series, we started last week, obviously we started fight the week, obviously we started fight the week, obviously we started fight the good fight. good fight. good fight. >> This week's week two. Bro, I honestly I >> This week's week two. Bro, I honestly I >> This week's week two. Bro, I honestly I was so proud of our church because, you was so proud of our church because, you was so proud of our church because, you know, we kind of did the thing. Hey, for know, we kind of did the thing. Hey, for know, we kind of did the thing. Hey, for four weeks, we reach wide. Now, we're four weeks, we reach wide. Now, we're four weeks, we reach wide. Now, we're going deep and just verse by verse going deep and just verse by verse going deep and just verse by verse through second Timothy. Let me brag on through second Timothy. Let me brag on through second Timothy. Let me brag on the people at Lake Point. Uh, everybody the people at Lake Point. Uh, everybody the people at Lake Point. Uh, everybody knew coming into this week, here's all knew coming into this week, here's all knew coming into this week, here's all we're doing. We're deep diving verse by we're doing. We're deep diving verse by we're doing. We're deep diving verse by verse in Second Timothy. And it was our verse in Second Timothy. And it was our verse in Second Timothy. And it was our first week ever, nonh holiday, nonatm uh first week ever, nonh holiday, nonatm uh first week ever, nonh holiday, nonatm uh over 30,000 people in person. Uh I'm at over 30,000 people in person. Uh I'm at over 30,000 people in person. Uh I'm at the Rock Wall campus obviously both the Rock Wall campus obviously both the Rock Wall campus obviously both services on Sunday. Stairs are covered services on Sunday. Stairs are covered services on Sunday. Stairs are covered with a bunch of college students with with a bunch of college students with with a bunch of college students with Bibles in their laps. Bibles in their laps. Bibles in their laps. >> And uh dude, it was stinking awesome. So >> And uh dude, it was stinking awesome. So >> And uh dude, it was stinking awesome. So that was last week. that was last week. that was last week. >> Um and then partly because of Live Free >> Um and then partly because of Live Free >> Um and then partly because of Live Free Nation, we told everybody to go get Nation, we told everybody to go get Nation, we told everybody to go get these little Crossway Second Timothy these little Crossway Second Timothy these little Crossway Second Timothy journals. So not only did we sell out journals. So not only did we sell out journals. So not only did we sell out all the ones at Lake Point, we sold out all the ones at Lake Point, we sold out all the ones at Lake Point, we sold out Amazon.

Amazon. Amazon. >> We broke Amazon. >> We broke Amazon. >> We broke Amazon. >> We broke Amazon. We >> We broke Amazon. We >> We broke Amazon. We >> Amazon's like, "What is going on with >> Amazon's like, "What is going on with >> Amazon's like, "What is going on with this uh man popularity in this this uh man popularity in this this uh man popularity in this >> this random $7? We sold out all of >> this random $7? We sold out all of >> this random $7? We sold out all of Amazon." So, sorry to everyone and we'll Amazon." So, sorry to everyone and we'll Amazon." So, sorry to everyone and we'll do our best to see what we can do for do our best to see what we can do for do our best to see what we can do for you. you. you. >> We need to figure that out in the future >> We need to figure that out in the future >> We need to figure that out in the future whenever we, you know, have people buy whenever we, you know, have people buy whenever we, you know, have people buy things from Amazon. Like, it's a it's things from Amazon. Like, it's a it's things from Amazon. Like, it's a it's going to be a thing. Well, we actually going to be a thing. Well, we actually going to be a thing. Well, we actually had like an emergency meeting afterward had like an emergency meeting afterward had like an emergency meeting afterward and realized we're gonna have to change and realized we're gonna have to change and realized we're gonna have to change our strategy our strategy our strategy >> because between Lake Point and live free >> because between Lake Point and live free >> because between Lake Point and live free when we say stuff like that, like when we say stuff like that, like when we say stuff like that, like 250,000 people go looking for it. So, 250,000 people go looking for it. So, 250,000 people go looking for it. So, but here's what I love. I love that but here's what I love. I love that but here's what I love. I love that everybody listening, everybody at Lake everybody listening, everybody at Lake everybody listening, everybody at Lake Point loves the word of God. That's what Point loves the word of God. That's what Point loves the word of God. That's what I love. People came hungry. You could I love. People came hungry. You could I love. People came hungry. You could tell tell tell >> they came hungry. Yeah, >> they came hungry. Yeah, >> they came hungry. Yeah, >> they did, man. >> they did, man. >> they did, man. >> Hey, uh also, if you are listening to >> Hey, uh also, if you are listening to >> Hey, uh also, if you are listening to this and you're in the DFW area, part of this and you're in the DFW area, part of this and you're in the DFW area, part of the Lifree Nation, come hang out as the Lifree Nation, come hang out as the Lifree Nation, come hang out as well. We always love to meet people from well. We always love to meet people from well. We always love to meet people from all over the place. Every single week we all over the place. Every single week we all over the place. Every single week we do a giveaway. So comment hats on do a giveaway. So comment hats on do a giveaway. So comment hats on YouTube or Spotify and maybe even Chad YouTube or Spotify and maybe even Chad YouTube or Spotify and maybe even Chad GPC might uh sign one and you know it's GPC might uh sign one and you know it's GPC might uh sign one and you know it's going to be a special one. We'll see. Um going to be a special one. We'll see. Um going to be a special one. We'll see. Um also subscribe on YouTube or Spotify as also subscribe on YouTube or Spotify as also subscribe on YouTube or Spotify as well. Thank you for supporting to well. Thank you for supporting to well. Thank you for supporting to download the Lakeoint Church app.

download the Lakeoint Church app. download the Lakeoint Church app. >> How many of those hats have we given >> How many of those hats have we given >> How many of those hats have we given away? This may know. I'm curious. away? This may know. I'm curious. away? This may know. I'm curious. >> Thousands. >> Thousands. >> Thousands. >> Thousands. How many know the answer to >> Thousands. How many know the answer to >> Thousands. How many know the answer to that? We don't know. that? We don't know. that? We don't know. >> I don't know that. But uh I do know that >> I don't know that. But uh I do know that >> I don't know that. But uh I do know that if you want to download the lateoint if you want to download the lateoint if you want to download the lateoint app, you can just go ahead and text the app, you can just go ahead and text the app, you can just go ahead and text the word app to 0411. word app to 0411. word app to 0411. Texas. Texas. Texas. >> And so, uh, this is going to be great. >> And so, uh, this is going to be great. >> And so, uh, this is going to be great. Okay. So, on that note, Pastor Josh, I Okay. So, on that note, Pastor Josh, I Okay. So, on that note, Pastor Josh, I have a question for you, but that's not have a question for you, but that's not have a question for you, but that's not the question that I usually ask. It's a the question that I usually ask. It's a the question that I usually ask. It's a different one. different one. different one. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> You brought up a Mormonism at the >> You brought up a Mormonism at the >> You brought up a Mormonism at the beginning of this episode when we were beginning of this episode when we were beginning of this episode when we were saying hi. So, uh, let me saying hi. So, uh, let me saying hi. So, uh, let me >> Wait, do we have a picture of the >> Wait, do we have a picture of the >> Wait, do we have a picture of the announcement? Hang on, Trinity. I'm announcement? Hang on, Trinity. I'm announcement? Hang on, Trinity. I'm going to send you a picture of the going to send you a picture of the going to send you a picture of the announcement. announcement. announcement. >> Can I pull it up? Will that is that >> Can I pull it up? Will that is that >> Can I pull it up? Will that is that weird if I do that? No, you can pull it weird if I do that? No, you can pull it weird if I do that? No, you can pull it up. Go ahead and keep talking. So, this up. Go ahead and keep talking. So, this up. Go ahead and keep talking. So, this is what this is what resulted in many is what this is what resulted in many is what this is what resulted in many we're going to call them frequently we're going to call them frequently we're going to call them frequently shouted questions shouted questions shouted questions >> for the for like the >> for the for like the >> for the for like the >> Oh, can you pull it up? No, no, go to >> Oh, can you pull it up? No, no, go to >> Oh, can you pull it up? No, no, go to Hang on. I'm going to send you the one Hang on. I'm going to send you the one Hang on. I'm going to send you the one I'm talking about. I'm talking about. I'm talking about. >> There's one. >> There's one. >> There's one. >> Look at that guy. >> Look at that guy. >> Look at that guy. >> Okay, so for the for the one or two >> Okay, so for the for the one or two >> Okay, so for the for the one or two people that are people that are people that are >> punchable face. >> punchable face. >> punchable face. >> That's not chill. I'm joking. >> That's not chill. I'm joking. >> That's not chill. I'm joking. >> Um, hey, bro.

>> Um, hey, bro. >> Um, hey, bro. >> Calm down. I need to calm down. >> Calm down. I need to calm down. >> Calm down. I need to calm down. >> I know the story behind that. Just >> I know the story behind that. Just >> I know the story behind that. Just >> Hey, hey, hey, we got a podcast still >> Hey, hey, hey, we got a podcast still >> Hey, hey, hey, we got a podcast still recording. All right. Um, hey, for the recording. All right. Um, hey, for the recording. All right. Um, hey, for the people that actually have no idea what people that actually have no idea what people that actually have no idea what we're talking about, Pastor Josh, why we're talking about, Pastor Josh, why we're talking about, Pastor Josh, why are you bringing up the Blaze Media? are you bringing up the Blaze Media? are you bringing up the Blaze Media? >> Okay, so we just, so this announcement >> Okay, so we just, so this announcement >> Okay, so we just, so this announcement became public this week. Um, this became public this week. Um, this became public this week. Um, this announcement, you know, and well, I announcement, you know, and well, I announcement, you know, and well, I won't go there. And, uh, so essentially won't go there. And, uh, so essentially won't go there. And, uh, so essentially this is what was announced. Um, and this is what was announced. Um, and this is what was announced. Um, and first of all, let me just say, first of all, let me just say, first of all, let me just say, >> wait, we're reading for the people that >> wait, we're reading for the people that >> wait, we're reading for the people that are listening. are listening. are listening. >> I'm not reading that. It feels weird to >> I'm not reading that. It feels weird to >> I'm not reading that. It feels weird to read that. read that. read that. >> I got you, bro. Okay, let me just say >> I got you, bro. Okay, let me just say >> I got you, bro. Okay, let me just say America's fastest growing Christian America's fastest growing Christian America's fastest growing Christian voice is joining Blaze Media. Uh Blaze voice is joining Blaze Media. Uh Blaze voice is joining Blaze Media. Uh Blaze TV staff, it says Josh Howardon, TV staff, it says Josh Howardon, TV staff, it says Josh Howardon, Lakeoint Church, pastor and host of Live Lakeoint Church, pastor and host of Live Lakeoint Church, pastor and host of Live Free joins Blaze Media to share the Free joins Blaze Media to share the Free joins Blaze Media to share the gospel and apply scripture to the issues gospel and apply scripture to the issues gospel and apply scripture to the issues of the day. of the day. of the day. >> And that is exactly what we're doing. >> And that is exactly what we're doing. >> And that is exactly what we're doing. Okay, that's exactly what we're doing. Okay, that's exactly what we're doing. Okay, that's exactly what we're doing. First of all, I would just like to say First of all, I would just like to say First of all, I would just like to say we did not tell them to say fastest we did not tell them to say fastest we did not tell them to say fastest growing. We did not. growing. We did not. growing. We did not. >> It's like that's why I didn't want to >> It's like that's why I didn't want to >> It's like that's why I didn't want to read it. But this resulted in we uh read it. But this resulted in we uh read it. But this resulted in we uh we've got a it's called a distribution we've got a it's called a distribution we've got a it's called a distribution partnership. Is that the right thing to partnership. Is that the right thing to partnership. Is that the right thing to say? with Blaze where they're starting say? with Blaze where they're starting say? with Blaze where they're starting to put live free on their platforms and to put live free on their platforms and to put live free on their platforms and this resulted in a significant number of this resulted in a significant number of this resulted in a significant number of we will call them frequently shouted we will call them frequently shouted we will call them frequently shouted questions. That's right. So, we would questions. That's right. So, we would questions. That's right. So, we would like to dispel some frequently shouted like to dispel some frequently shouted like to dispel some frequently shouted questions and then we'll actually talk questions and then we'll actually talk questions and then we'll actually talk about the Bible and it'll be great.

about the Bible and it'll be great. about the Bible and it'll be great. >> Let me start with the first one >> Let me start with the first one >> Let me start with the first one >> and mosques. >> and mosques. >> and mosques. >> Pastor Josh, >> Pastor Josh, >> Pastor Josh, >> you are now >> you are now >> you are now >> No, you have to shout them. >> No, you have to shout them. >> No, you have to shout them. >> Oh, okay. >> Oh, okay. >> Oh, okay. >> They're frequently. This is going to be >> They're frequently. This is going to be >> They're frequently. This is going to be really interesting. really interesting. really interesting. >> Pastor Josh, you are now working for a >> Pastor Josh, you are now working for a >> Pastor Josh, you are now working for a Mormon. Mormon. Mormon. >> He can't even do it. He can't even do >> He can't even do it. He can't even do >> He can't even do it. He can't even do it. He can't do it. That looks like a it. He can't do it. That looks like a it. He can't do it. That looks like a fake shot. fake shot. fake shot. >> So, first of all, let me All right. So, >> So, first of all, let me All right. So, >> So, first of all, let me All right. So, first of all, number one, uh I'm not first of all, number one, uh I'm not first of all, number one, uh I'm not working I'm working for Lakeoint Church. working I'm working for Lakeoint Church. working I'm working for Lakeoint Church. >> Okay, this is we're I'm not we're not >> Okay, this is we're I'm not we're not >> Okay, this is we're I'm not we're not employees employees employees >> uh of the Blaze. This is a distribution >> uh of the Blaze. This is a distribution >> uh of the Blaze. This is a distribution partnership essentially. They came to us partnership essentially. They came to us partnership essentially. They came to us and we've had, by the way, we've had and we've had, by the way, we've had and we've had, by the way, we've had people approach us before about people approach us before about people approach us before about potentially acquiring the podcast or potentially acquiring the podcast or potentially acquiring the podcast or hey, you know, can we put it on our hey, you know, can we put it on our hey, you know, can we put it on our networks? And we just didn't feel networks? And we just didn't feel networks? And we just didn't feel awesome about it. And I'll talk about awesome about it. And I'll talk about awesome about it. And I'll talk about why here in a second. Um, all all this why here in a second. Um, all all this why here in a second. Um, all all this is is they are putting our content on is is they are putting our content on is is they are putting our content on their platforms. That's number one. So, their platforms. That's number one. So, their platforms. That's number one. So, I I'm an employee of one I have one I I'm an employee of one I have one I I'm an employee of one I have one employer, Lake Point Church, the elders employer, Lake Point Church, the elders employer, Lake Point Church, the elders and the people of Lake Church. Uh, and the people of Lake Church. Uh, and the people of Lake Church. Uh, number two, a lot of people don't know number two, a lot of people don't know number two, a lot of people don't know this dude. I but I realized this this this dude. I but I realized this this this dude. I but I realized this this week amidst the frequently shouted week amidst the frequently shouted week amidst the frequently shouted questions. First of all, let me just say questions. First of all, let me just say questions. First of all, let me just say I have met Glenbeck. Dude's awesome. I I have met Glenbeck. Dude's awesome. I I have met Glenbeck. Dude's awesome. I stinking loved Glen Beck. He was stinking loved Glen Beck. He was stinking loved Glen Beck. He was amazing. Um, but he doesn't own the amazing. Um, but he doesn't own the amazing. Um, but he doesn't own the Blaze anymore.

Blaze anymore. Blaze anymore. it. So, in fact, I talked to the CEO it. So, in fact, I talked to the CEO it. So, in fact, I talked to the CEO this week of the the Blaze and uh both this week of the the Blaze and uh both this week of the the Blaze and uh both the uh the current ownership group and the uh the current ownership group and the uh the current ownership group and the board is entirely comprised now of the board is entirely comprised now of the board is entirely comprised now of Bible believing Christians. Bible believing Christians. Bible believing Christians. >> So, that's my answer to your frequently >> So, that's my answer to your frequently >> So, that's my answer to your frequently shouted question, Carlos. shouted question, Carlos. shouted question, Carlos. >> Well, you know what? You know what? >> Well, you know what? You know what? >> Well, you know what? You know what? Okay, Okay, Okay, >> just got back. >> just got back. >> just got back. >> Oh, you know what? I got another one. >> Oh, you know what? I got another one. >> Oh, you know what? I got another one. >> Shout it. Shout it. Pompador from El >> Shout it. Shout it. Pompador from El >> Shout it. Shout it. Pompador from El Salvador. Salvador. Salvador. >> After this partnership, Pastor Josh, >> After this partnership, Pastor Josh, >> After this partnership, Pastor Josh, you're going to be distracted. You're a you're going to be distracted. You're a you're going to be distracted. You're a pastor. pastor. pastor. >> Yes. I saw this a lot this week uh in >> Yes. I saw this a lot this week uh in >> Yes. I saw this a lot this week uh in the this was a frequently shot question. the this was a frequently shot question. the this was a frequently shot question. Literally, we're not doing anything Literally, we're not doing anything Literally, we're not doing anything different. We're just recording the different. We're just recording the different. We're just recording the podcast like we've always done and then podcast like we've always done and then podcast like we've always done and then they're putting it on their channels. they're putting it on their channels. they're putting it on their channels. So, literally the exact same amount of So, literally the exact same amount of So, literally the exact same amount of time that goes into the Bible teaching time that goes into the Bible teaching time that goes into the Bible teaching and the production of Live Free is the and the production of Live Free is the and the production of Live Free is the exact same thing we'll keep on doing exact same thing we'll keep on doing exact same thing we'll keep on doing >> except more people are going to be >> except more people are going to be >> except more people are going to be listening to the word of God. Okay, listening to the word of God. Okay, listening to the word of God. Okay, that's that's that's >> more people hear the word. >> more people hear the word. >> more people hear the word. >> But there's one more. Uh, Pastor Josh, >> But there's one more. Uh, Pastor Josh, >> But there's one more. Uh, Pastor Josh, you're also aligning with a political you're also aligning with a political you're also aligning with a political organization. What are you doing? organization. What are you doing? organization. What are you doing? >> No, no, that that's just not that's not >> No, no, that that's just not that's not >> No, no, that that's just not that's not true. So, uh, first of all, again, this true. So, uh, first of all, again, this true. So, uh, first of all, again, this is a distribution partnership. Just is a distribution partnership. Just is a distribution partnership. Just they're just going, "Hey, would you take they're just going, "Hey, would you take they're just going, "Hey, would you take can we take live free and put it on our can we take live free and put it on our can we take live free and put it on our platforms?" And for us, we're going more platforms?" And for us, we're going more platforms?" And for us, we're going more people hear hear about Jesus, more people hear hear about Jesus, more people hear hear about Jesus, more people hear about the word of God. All people hear about the word of God. All people hear about the word of God. All that's great. We also uh no one uh that's great. We also uh no one uh that's great. We also uh no one uh anywhere, and this was part of us just anywhere, and this was part of us just anywhere, and this was part of us just making clear, and they were they had no making clear, and they were they had no making clear, and they were they had no problem with this. They were like, "Hey, problem with this. They were like, "Hey, problem with this. They were like, "Hey, we don't want you to change anything.

we don't want you to change anything. we don't want you to change anything. We're not changing absolutely anything. We're not changing absolutely anything. We're not changing absolutely anything. No one has editorial control over No one has editorial control over No one has editorial control over anything that we do. In fact, they just anything that we do. In fact, they just anything that we do. In fact, they just love what we're currently doing. We're love what we're currently doing. We're love what we're currently doing. We're going to keep doing that." Exactly what going to keep doing that." Exactly what going to keep doing that." Exactly what we're doing. So, uh, Lake Point works we're doing. So, uh, Lake Point works we're doing. So, uh, Lake Point works and has partnerships with tons of and has partnerships with tons of and has partnerships with tons of organizations. Are you talking like tons organizations. Are you talking like tons organizations. Are you talking like tons of organizations? of organizations? of organizations? >> So, when we partner with organization, >> So, when we partner with organization, >> So, when we partner with organization, really, we're not uh that that's not us really, we're not uh that that's not us really, we're not uh that that's not us endorsing everything that comes out of endorsing everything that comes out of endorsing everything that comes out of any organization. When we order food any organization. When we order food any organization. When we order food from a restaurant, that's not us uh for from a restaurant, that's not us uh for from a restaurant, that's not us uh for for a catering thing. That's not us for a catering thing. That's not us for a catering thing. That's not us going, "We now approve of everything going, "We now approve of everything going, "We now approve of everything every employee of that restaurant ever every employee of that restaurant ever every employee of that restaurant ever said." No, this is just us going, "Hey, said." No, this is just us going, "Hey, said." No, this is just us going, "Hey, man, more people hear the the man, more people hear the the man, more people hear the the life-saving message of Jesus Christ and life-saving message of Jesus Christ and life-saving message of Jesus Christ and hear the word of God preached." That's hear the word of God preached." That's hear the word of God preached." That's right. right. right. >> That's all that is. >> That's all that is. >> That's all that is. >> But will you still be able to >> But will you still be able to >> But will you still be able to >> You literally You can't shout, can >> You literally You can't shout, can >> You literally You can't shout, can >> Well, man, I'm being mindful of people >> Well, man, I'm being mindful of people >> Well, man, I'm being mindful of people listening in the car right now with the listening in the car right now with the listening in the car right now with the family. family. family. Will you still be able to talk freely Will you still be able to talk freely Will you still be able to talk freely about the Bible? about the Bible? about the Bible? >> Yes, that's all we do. >> Yes, that's all we do. >> Yes, that's all we do. >> So again, nothing whatsoever changes >> So again, nothing whatsoever changes >> So again, nothing whatsoever changes about the pod except more people see it.

about the pod except more people see it. about the pod except more people see it. >> That's correct. >> That's correct. >> That's correct. >> Yeah. What what I've told some people, >> Yeah. What what I've told some people, >> Yeah. What what I've told some people, it's basically like I watch Seinfeld on it's basically like I watch Seinfeld on it's basically like I watch Seinfeld on multiple stations that they syndicate multiple stations that they syndicate multiple stations that they syndicate the show that they did not create. They the show that they did not create. They the show that they did not create. They just syndicate. Same thing like just syndicate. Same thing like just syndicate. Same thing like sometimes you have radio shows that it sometimes you have radio shows that it sometimes you have radio shows that it starts in one city and then other radio starts in one city and then other radio starts in one city and then other radio stations elsewhere. They distribute it. stations elsewhere. They distribute it. stations elsewhere. They distribute it. They syndicate it. That's all that's They syndicate it. That's all that's They syndicate it. That's all that's happening here. happening here. happening here. >> That's great, man. That's that's great. >> That's great, man. That's that's great. >> That's great, man. That's that's great. That's all I got. That's all I got. That's all I got. >> Hey, good job at the frequently show. >> Hey, good job at the frequently show. >> Hey, good job at the frequently show. Thank you, bro. Thank you, bro. Thank you, bro. >> Send me Send me shout now. Hey, dude. >> Send me Send me shout now. Hey, dude. >> Send me Send me shout now. Hey, dude. Can I ask you something about your neck Can I ask you something about your neck Can I ask you something about your neck of the woods? Your neck of the woods. I of the woods? Your neck of the woods. I of the woods? Your neck of the woods. I don't know if I'm allowed to say that. don't know if I'm allowed to say that. don't know if I'm allowed to say that. >> Yeah, go ahead. I'll allow it. I'll >> Yeah, go ahead. I'll allow it. I'll >> Yeah, go ahead. I'll allow it. I'll allow it. allow it. allow it. >> All right. All right. There was uh >> All right. All right. There was uh >> All right. All right. There was uh something pretty significant happened in something pretty significant happened in something pretty significant happened in Colombia, South America last week or so. Colombia, South America last week or so. Colombia, South America last week or so. Yeah. Catch catch me up. Yeah. Catch catch me up. Yeah. Catch catch me up. >> So, okay. So, Colombia some days ago had >> So, okay. So, Colombia some days ago had >> So, okay. So, Colombia some days ago had this like massive earthquake. I think it this like massive earthquake. I think it this like massive earthquake. I think it was like 7.4. Uh and by the way, if was like 7.4. Uh and by the way, if was like 7.4. Uh and by the way, if you've ever been in an earthquake, uh I you've ever been in an earthquake, uh I you've ever been in an earthquake, uh I have, it's really scary. Obviously have, it's really scary. Obviously have, it's really scary. Obviously there's like buildings falling, you there's like buildings falling, you there's like buildings falling, you know, the ground literally shaking. Like know, the ground literally shaking. Like know, the ground literally shaking. Like if you ever been in one, it's like if you ever been in one, it's like if you ever been in one, it's like apocalyptic. That's and that happens. apocalyptic. That's and that happens. apocalyptic. That's and that happens. 7.4 is a big deal. Um and so what a lot 7.4 is a big deal. Um and so what a lot 7.4 is a big deal. Um and so what a lot of people are asking right now is why of people are asking right now is why of people are asking right now is why does it seem like there's so many does it seem like there's so many does it seem like there's so many different earthquakes happening like different earthquakes happening like different earthquakes happening like literally all over the world like you literally all over the world like you literally all over the world like you see this in like Venezuela obviously see this in like Venezuela obviously see this in like Venezuela obviously this happened in last month. There's this happened in last month. There's this happened in last month. There's like two earthquakes happening. Mexico, like two earthquakes happening. Mexico, like two earthquakes happening. Mexico, Japan, Indonesia. These are like massive Japan, Indonesia. These are like massive Japan, Indonesia. These are like massive earthquakes. And what I want to do is I earthquakes. And what I want to do is I earthquakes. And what I want to do is I want to help you think biblically about want to help you think biblically about want to help you think biblically about this. So, it's interesting when you look this. So, it's interesting when you look this. So, it's interesting when you look at scripture, there's only one time that at scripture, there's only one time that at scripture, there's only one time that Jesus actually specifically explicitly Jesus actually specifically explicitly Jesus actually specifically explicitly addresses earthquakes. And the one time addresses earthquakes. And the one time addresses earthquakes. And the one time he does it, it it happens in the context he does it, it it happens in the context he does it, it it happens in the context of the end times and the return of of the end times and the return of of the end times and the return of Jesus. And so, let me just read it.

Jesus. And so, let me just read it. Jesus. And so, let me just read it. Matthew 24:7 and 8. It says, "For a Matthew 24:7 and 8. It says, "For a Matthew 24:7 and 8. It says, "For a nation will," this is Jesus speaking in nation will," this is Jesus speaking in nation will," this is Jesus speaking in the context of the end times and his the context of the end times and his the context of the end times and his return. He says, "For nation will rise return. He says, "For nation will rise return. He says, "For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against against nation and kingdom against against nation and kingdom against kingdom and there will be famines and kingdom and there will be famines and kingdom and there will be famines and there will be earthquakes in various there will be earthquakes in various there will be earthquakes in various places. All these are but the beginning places. All these are but the beginning places. All these are but the beginning of the birth pains." So, this photo of the birth pains." So, this photo of the birth pains." So, this photo right here, Train, if you can pull it right here, Train, if you can pull it right here, Train, if you can pull it up. This photo right here, it is an up. This photo right here, it is an up. This photo right here, it is an image showing the 10 earthquakes that image showing the 10 earthquakes that image showing the 10 earthquakes that have been over 7.0 and above in have been over 7.0 and above in have been over 7.0 and above in magnitude, which is like devastating. magnitude, which is like devastating. magnitude, which is like devastating. Uh, that's Mexico, Japan, Venezuela, Uh, that's Mexico, Japan, Venezuela, Uh, that's Mexico, Japan, Venezuela, Indonesia. Again, more than just Indonesia. Again, more than just Indonesia. Again, more than just numbers. These is like literally people numbers. These is like literally people numbers. These is like literally people dying. Uh, buildings falling apart. A dying. Uh, buildings falling apart. A dying. Uh, buildings falling apart. A lot of these countries are not even lot of these countries are not even lot of these countries are not even ready to sustain that damage. Uh, this ready to sustain that damage. Uh, this ready to sustain that damage. Uh, this is literally what Jesus said 2,000 years is literally what Jesus said 2,000 years is literally what Jesus said 2,000 years ago would happen. Like there would be ago would happen. Like there would be ago would happen. Like there would be earthquakes literally in all a bunch of earthquakes literally in all a bunch of earthquakes literally in all a bunch of different places. And somebody might be different places. And somebody might be different places. And somebody might be hearing this and be like, "Yeah, okay." hearing this and be like, "Yeah, okay." hearing this and be like, "Yeah, okay." But there's always been earthquakes. Uh But there's always been earthquakes. Uh But there's always been earthquakes. Uh there there's always this has always there there's always this has always there there's always this has always happened. And that's true, but it we happened. And that's true, but it we happened. And that's true, but it we haven't always had these amount of haven't always had these amount of haven't always had these amount of earthquakes in the context of literally earthquakes in the context of literally earthquakes in the context of literally everything else that we're seeing right everything else that we're seeing right everything else that we're seeing right now happening and unfolding in our now happening and unfolding in our now happening and unfolding in our world. And so let me just give you world. And so let me just give you world. And so let me just give you another one real quick. Uh wars and another one real quick. Uh wars and another one real quick. Uh wars and rumors of wars. This is what the Bible rumors of wars. This is what the Bible rumors of wars. This is what the Bible says. So studies show today that in the says. So studies show today that in the says. So studies show today that in the last four to five years, there's been an last four to five years, there's been an last four to five years, there's been an increasing number in quote active armed increasing number in quote active armed increasing number in quote active armed conflicts involving governments. 2025 conflicts involving governments. 2025 conflicts involving governments. 2025 set an all-time record high since World set an all-time record high since World set an all-time record high since World War II. In 2026, the amount of countries War II. In 2026, the amount of countries War II. In 2026, the amount of countries that were involved as well in in that were involved as well in in that were involved as well in in conflicts outside of their own borders conflicts outside of their own borders conflicts outside of their own borders nearly doubled in the last 20 years. And nearly doubled in the last 20 years. And nearly doubled in the last 20 years. And according to this same report, it says, according to this same report, it says, according to this same report, it says, quote, "Global peace is at its lowest quote, "Global peace is at its lowest quote, "Global peace is at its lowest level since 2007." And again, this is level since 2007." And again, this is level since 2007." And again, this is just one more example of of so much just one more example of of so much just one more example of of so much more. We could keep going, but here's

more. We could keep going, but here's more. We could keep going, but here's the point I want to put on my pastor hat the point I want to put on my pastor hat the point I want to put on my pastor hat on. When people see, and by the way, on. When people see, and by the way, on. When people see, and by the way, this is not the last one. You will this is not the last one. You will this is not the last one. You will probably see more of these for for the probably see more of these for for the probably see more of these for for the rest of the year, like a significant rest of the year, like a significant rest of the year, like a significant earthquake and things like this. When earthquake and things like this. When earthquake and things like this. When you see stuff like that, earthquakes, you see stuff like that, earthquakes, you see stuff like that, earthquakes, wars, persecution, the insanity wars, persecution, the insanity wars, persecution, the insanity happening out there, chaos, Jesus said happening out there, chaos, Jesus said happening out there, chaos, Jesus said this would happen. this would happen. this would happen. >> And he said, when you see these things, >> And he said, when you see these things, >> And he said, when you see these things, what you need to understand if you're a what you need to understand if you're a what you need to understand if you're a Christian, like you need to be reminded, Christian, like you need to be reminded, Christian, like you need to be reminded, uh this is literally what Jesus said uh this is literally what Jesus said uh this is literally what Jesus said would happen before he said, "Hey, I'm would happen before he said, "Hey, I'm would happen before he said, "Hey, I'm going to be back soon. I'm going to going to be back soon. I'm going to going to be back soon. I'm going to return soon." Now, if you're not a return soon." Now, if you're not a return soon." Now, if you're not a Christian, what you need to understand Christian, what you need to understand Christian, what you need to understand is like this should scare you. It means is like this should scare you. It means is like this should scare you. It means uh that you need to know like Jesus uh that you need to know like Jesus uh that you need to know like Jesus spoke about birth pains and this is just spoke about birth pains and this is just spoke about birth pains and this is just the beginning of something that's going the beginning of something that's going the beginning of something that's going to get worse. to get worse. to get worse. >> But what's interesting and a lot of >> But what's interesting and a lot of >> But what's interesting and a lot of people don't know this that if you are a people don't know this that if you are a people don't know this that if you are a Christian in the same verse where Jesus Christian in the same verse where Jesus Christian in the same verse where Jesus is speaking about the end times and is speaking about the end times and is speaking about the end times and what's going to happen he literally says what's going to happen he literally says what's going to happen he literally says this Matthew 24:6 and you will hear of this Matthew 24:6 and you will hear of this Matthew 24:6 and you will hear of wars and rumors of wars but see that you wars and rumors of wars but see that you wars and rumors of wars but see that you are not alarmed. And so if you are a are not alarmed. And so if you are a are not alarmed. And so if you are a Christian and you are seeing all this Christian and you are seeing all this Christian and you are seeing all this chaos, what you need to understand is chaos, what you need to understand is chaos, what you need to understand is Jesus is saying, "Hey, you believer, you Jesus is saying, "Hey, you believer, you Jesus is saying, "Hey, you believer, you should not be afraid because this is should not be afraid because this is should not be afraid because this is actually a a divine plan that is actually a a divine plan that is actually a a divine plan that is unfolding." And so again, the world is unfolding." And so again, the world is unfolding." And so again, the world is expecting catastrophe, but Christians expecting catastrophe, but Christians expecting catastrophe, but Christians are expecting Christ to return.

are expecting Christ to return. are expecting Christ to return. >> The world is expecting tragedy, but >> The world is expecting tragedy, but >> The world is expecting tragedy, but Christians know that Jesus is still on Christians know that Jesus is still on Christians know that Jesus is still on the throne. And we don't put our faith the throne. And we don't put our faith the throne. And we don't put our faith in possibilities. We put our faith in a in possibilities. We put our faith in a in possibilities. We put our faith in a person, and his name is Jesus. So Lord person, and his name is Jesus. So Lord person, and his name is Jesus. So Lord Jesus, please come soon. Jesus, please come soon. Jesus, please come soon. >> Amen. Amen. Carlos. Okay, bro. That's >> Amen. Amen. Carlos. Okay, bro. That's >> Amen. Amen. Carlos. Okay, bro. That's How do you How are they doing down How do you How are they doing down How do you How are they doing down there? Do you know? there? Do you know? there? Do you know? >> Uh, >> Uh, >> Uh, >> we sent some resources, I think. >> we sent some resources, I think. >> we sent some resources, I think. >> Yeah. Yeah. And same with Venezuela. I >> Yeah. Yeah. And same with Venezuela. I >> Yeah. Yeah. And same with Venezuela. I mean, better. I mean, again, there's mean, better. I mean, again, there's mean, better. I mean, again, there's rescue mission. There's there's a lot of rescue mission. There's there's a lot of rescue mission. There's there's a lot of effort. Uh, some countries are better effort. Uh, some countries are better effort. Uh, some countries are better positioned to um their infrastructure. positioned to um their infrastructure. positioned to um their infrastructure. The thing with all these countries, they The thing with all these countries, they The thing with all these countries, they don't have the infrastructure that we don't have the infrastructure that we don't have the infrastructure that we have necessarily here in the US. So, have necessarily here in the US. So, have necessarily here in the US. So, again, the damage is significant. Um, we again, the damage is significant. Um, we again, the damage is significant. Um, we partner with Convoy of Hope, right? And partner with Convoy of Hope, right? And partner with Convoy of Hope, right? And they're the ones that get in there. So, they're the ones that get in there. So, they're the ones that get in there. So, >> good news. That's great, man. >> good news. That's great, man. >> good news. That's great, man. >> Yeah. Uh, Pastor Josh, now I do have a >> Yeah. Uh, Pastor Josh, now I do have a >> Yeah. Uh, Pastor Josh, now I do have a question for you that I you are somewhat question for you that I you are somewhat question for you that I you are somewhat familiar with. What did it make it to familiar with. What did it make it to familiar with. What did it make it to the sermon? the sermon? the sermon? >> A lot, dude. And I I'm excited about >> A lot, dude. And I I'm excited about >> A lot, dude. And I I'm excited about this. Right here is why I love having this. Right here is why I love having this. Right here is why I love having the podcast cuz for real, dude. There's the podcast cuz for real, dude. There's the podcast cuz for real, dude. There's this thing, this thing, this thing, >> by the way. Great job this weekend. >> by the way. Great job this weekend. >> by the way. Great job this weekend. >> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, man. I >> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, man. I >> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, man. I love Dude, I'll be honest. This is a love Dude, I'll be honest. This is a love Dude, I'll be honest. This is a little thing. I don't know if it's just little thing. I don't know if it's just little thing. I don't know if it's just like trends or age. It's the older I like trends or age. It's the older I like trends or age. It's the older I get, dude. I just really don't like any get, dude. I just really don't like any get, dude. I just really don't like any sermon series that's not just preach sermon series that's not just preach sermon series that's not just preach preaching through a book of the Bible. I preaching through a book of the Bible. I preaching through a book of the Bible. I don't know what that is. It's just like don't know what that is. It's just like don't know what that is. It's just like the best, man. I don't know. I don't the best, man. I don't know. I don't the best, man. I don't know. I don't know. There's just something about it know. There's just something about it know. There's just something about it for me. Um I'm excited about this. This for me. Um I'm excited about this. This for me. Um I'm excited about this. This is why I like having the podcast.

is why I like having the podcast. is why I like having the podcast. There's one thing in particular I've There's one thing in particular I've There's one thing in particular I've been like trying to get into a sermon been like trying to get into a sermon been like trying to get into a sermon for like for like for like >> uh it's probably been three years and I >> uh it's probably been three years and I >> uh it's probably been three years and I can never do it. I've been like, "Okay, can never do it. I've been like, "Okay, can never do it. I've been like, "Okay, at least I have the podcast now." Okay, at least I have the podcast now." Okay, at least I have the podcast now." Okay, so I'll get there in a second. So, a so I'll get there in a second. So, a so I'll get there in a second. So, a couple things. First of all, this this couple things. First of all, this this couple things. First of all, this this sermon uh 2 Timothy 2 and we picked up sermon uh 2 Timothy 2 and we picked up sermon uh 2 Timothy 2 and we picked up in uh verse 6 and then we went down all in uh verse 6 and then we went down all in uh verse 6 and then we went down all the way to the end of chapter 1. We're the way to the end of chapter 1. We're the way to the end of chapter 1. We're just going verse by verse of the book. just going verse by verse of the book. just going verse by verse of the book. Um what this is is this is Paul's Um what this is is this is Paul's Um what this is is this is Paul's exhortation to young Timothy. Remember exhortation to young Timothy. Remember exhortation to young Timothy. Remember Timothy's young. Paul probably picks him Timothy's young. Paul probably picks him Timothy's young. Paul probably picks him up. He's around 15. Starts discipling up. He's around 15. Starts discipling up. He's around 15. Starts discipling him. Takes on a whole bunch of mission him. Takes on a whole bunch of mission him. Takes on a whole bunch of mission trips. That kind of thing. What we know, trips. That kind of thing. What we know, trips. That kind of thing. What we know, everybody's got what the Puritans used everybody's got what the Puritans used everybody's got what the Puritans used to call a besetting sin. Um, what we to call a besetting sin. Um, what we to call a besetting sin. Um, what we know about Timothy from context clues is know about Timothy from context clues is know about Timothy from context clues is his besetting sin was fearfulness. Uh, I his besetting sin was fearfulness. Uh, I his besetting sin was fearfulness. Uh, I don't want to say cowardice. He makes don't want to say cowardice. He makes don't want to say cowardice. He makes Timothy makes too many decisions that Timothy makes too many decisions that Timothy makes too many decisions that are like courageous to call them like are like courageous to call them like are like courageous to call them like cowardly decisions, but I'll give some cowardly decisions, but I'll give some cowardly decisions, but I'll give some context. Here's here's why Bible context. Here's here's why Bible context. Here's here's why Bible scholars think this. Um, you have 14 scholars think this. Um, you have 14 scholars think this. Um, you have 14 times. Very interesting.

times. Very interesting. times. Very interesting. >> You go through second Timothy 14 times >> You go through second Timothy 14 times >> You go through second Timothy 14 times Paul encourages Timothy. And by the way, Paul encourages Timothy. And by the way, Paul encourages Timothy. And by the way, 14 times uh if you're looking at the 14 times uh if you're looking at the 14 times uh if you're looking at the camera, this is 14 times in just this. camera, this is 14 times in just this. camera, this is 14 times in just this. >> So it's like that that's it. It's >> So it's like that that's it. It's >> So it's like that that's it. It's literally one it's like front and back literally one it's like front and back literally one it's like front and back one and a half pages. one and a half pages. one and a half pages. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So 14 times in this one little book. Um >> So 14 times in this one little book. Um >> So 14 times in this one little book. Um Paul says something like endure Paul says something like endure Paul says something like endure suffering suffering suffering >> 14 different times. Endure suffering. Um >> 14 different times. Endure suffering. Um >> 14 different times. Endure suffering. Um number two, I'm going to read it here in number two, I'm going to read it here in number two, I'm going to read it here in a second. He tells Timothy, you have not a second. He tells Timothy, you have not a second. He tells Timothy, you have not been given a spirit of fear, but a been given a spirit of fear, but a been given a spirit of fear, but a spirit of power, love, and of a right spirit of power, love, and of a right spirit of power, love, and of a right mind. By the way, uh we got I got mind. By the way, uh we got I got mind. By the way, uh we got I got thoughts. I'm interested to see if you thoughts. I'm interested to see if you thoughts. I'm interested to see if you guys think the same thing. I got guys think the same thing. I got guys think the same thing. I got thoughts on what that means. There's thoughts on what that means. There's thoughts on what that means. There's theories on what that means. theories on what that means. theories on what that means. >> Uh I I am very I am very very >> Uh I I am very I am very very >> Uh I I am very I am very very convictional about what I think that convictional about what I think that convictional about what I think that means. means. means. >> Um so he says, "Hey, Timothy, you >> Um so he says, "Hey, Timothy, you >> Um so he says, "Hey, Timothy, you haven't been given a spirit of fear." haven't been given a spirit of fear." haven't been given a spirit of fear." Number three, um you have he he says in Number three, um you have he he says in Number three, um you have he he says in first Timothy things like don't let first Timothy things like don't let first Timothy things like don't let anybody look down on you because you're anybody look down on you because you're anybody look down on you because you're young, but set an example for the young, but set an example for the young, but set an example for the believers. So it just seems over and believers. So it just seems over and believers. So it just seems over and over like Timothy struggled with fear. over like Timothy struggled with fear. over like Timothy struggled with fear. Okay. Now, uh, there was good reason for Okay. Now, uh, there was good reason for Okay. Now, uh, there was good reason for this. So, let me just I'm going to toss this. So, let me just I'm going to toss this. So, let me just I'm going to toss some pictures up here. So, this is the some pictures up here. So, this is the some pictures up here. So, this is the kind of stuff where it's like one, you kind of stuff where it's like one, you kind of stuff where it's like one, you start figuring out, hey, man, the Bible start figuring out, hey, man, the Bible start figuring out, hey, man, the Bible really happened. Number two, it just really happened. Number two, it just really happened. Number two, it just starts like I don't know, the Bible goes starts like I don't know, the Bible goes starts like I don't know, the Bible goes from black and white to color. And um, from black and white to color. And um, from black and white to color. And um, so I'm going to show some pop some stuff so I'm going to show some pop some stuff so I'm going to show some pop some stuff up here. So, Paul leaves Timothy up here. So, Paul leaves Timothy up here. So, Paul leaves Timothy eventually in Ephesus. Timothy becomes a eventually in Ephesus. Timothy becomes a eventually in Ephesus. Timothy becomes a pastor of Paul's favorite church uh, in pastor of Paul's favorite church uh, in pastor of Paul's favorite church uh, in Ephesus for a long long time. Um, you Ephesus for a long long time. Um, you Ephesus for a long long time. Um, you can still go to Ephesus today. Uh, I can still go to Ephesus today. Uh, I can still go to Ephesus today. Uh, I know Paul has never been anywhere over know Paul has never been anywhere over know Paul has never been anywhere over there before. Uh, but, uh, it's not in

there before. Uh, but, uh, it's not in there before. Uh, but, uh, it's not in Israel. Israel. Israel. >> That might change someday. >> That might change someday. >> That might change someday. >> It will change. >> It will change. >> It will change. >> Are we allowed to say that? >> Are we allowed to say that? >> Are we allowed to say that? >> I mean, I almost hesitate to. I don't >> I mean, I almost hesitate to. I don't >> I mean, I almost hesitate to. I don't want to jinx it. God God willing. Two want to jinx it. God God willing. Two want to jinx it. God God willing. Two and a half weeks. God willing, two and a and a half weeks. God willing, two and a and a half weeks. God willing, two and a half weeks from people. Listen. half weeks from people. Listen. half weeks from people. Listen. >> That's right. That's right. That's >> That's right. That's right. That's >> That's right. That's right. That's right. Not a spirit of fear. right. Not a spirit of fear. right. Not a spirit of fear. >> Hey, bro. Don't be timid. >> Hey, bro. Don't be timid. >> Hey, bro. Don't be timid. >> That's right. Okay. >> That's right. Okay. >> That's right. Okay. >> Yeah. God willing, two and a half weeks >> Yeah. God willing, two and a half weeks >> Yeah. God willing, two and a half weeks from now, be on the ground there. from now, be on the ground there. from now, be on the ground there. >> That's Don't let anybody look down on >> That's Don't let anybody look down on >> That's Don't let anybody look down on you because you're bald. I set an you because you're bald. I set an you because you're bald. I set an example. example. example. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. Sorry, Angel. Let's keep going. Sorry, Angel. Let's keep going. Sorry, Angel. Let's keep going. >> That went very personal. >> That went very personal. >> That went very personal. >> Sorry, dude. I got to My hairline's >> Sorry, dude. I got to My hairline's >> Sorry, dude. I got to My hairline's screaming. I just I don't know. It just screaming. I just I don't know. It just screaming. I just I don't know. It just came out. Let's keep going. Let's keep came out. Let's keep going. Let's keep came out. Let's keep going. Let's keep going. So, Paul Paul leaves Timothy in going. So, Paul Paul leaves Timothy in going. So, Paul Paul leaves Timothy in Ephesus. Uh Ephesus is uh it's not in Ephesus. Uh Ephesus is uh it's not in Ephesus. Uh Ephesus is uh it's not in Israel. Israel. Israel. >> It's in modern day Turkey. That's a >> It's in modern day Turkey. That's a >> It's in modern day Turkey. That's a whole, by the way, that's a whole other whole, by the way, that's a whole other whole, by the way, that's a whole other the Islam conversation. Uh, so now it's the Islam conversation. Uh, so now it's the Islam conversation. Uh, so now it's in a Muslim country. in a Muslim country. in a Muslim country. >> Uh, used to be like the center of >> Uh, used to be like the center of >> Uh, used to be like the center of Christianity, by the way. Um, it's the Christianity, by the way. Um, it's the Christianity, by the way. Um, it's the of every site I've ever been to. Now of every site I've ever been to. Now of every site I've ever been to. Now there's like more significant sites.

there's like more significant sites. there's like more significant sites. Like, dude, when you're standing at Like, dude, when you're standing at Like, dude, when you're standing at Golgtha, it's feels more significant. Golgtha, it's feels more significant. Golgtha, it's feels more significant. >> But as far as like just archaeological >> But as far as like just archaeological >> But as far as like just archaeological impressiveness, there ain't nothing like impressiveness, there ain't nothing like impressiveness, there ain't nothing like Ephesus. It's the stinking coolest thing Ephesus. It's the stinking coolest thing Ephesus. It's the stinking coolest thing I've ever ever ever seen. So, this is I've ever ever ever seen. So, this is I've ever ever ever seen. So, this is when I did that series, uh, Letters to when I did that series, uh, Letters to when I did that series, uh, Letters to the American Church. Uh, and this is me the American Church. Uh, and this is me the American Church. Uh, and this is me standing in front of the library at standing in front of the library at standing in front of the library at Ephesus. It's stinking cool, man. Um, Ephesus. It's stinking cool, man. Um, Ephesus. It's stinking cool, man. Um, because, uh, archaeologists, they took because, uh, archaeologists, they took because, uh, archaeologists, they took all these ruins and reconstructed it all these ruins and reconstructed it all these ruins and reconstructed it accurately. So, like those are the accurately. So, like those are the accurately. So, like those are the actual original stones of the Library of actual original stones of the Library of actual original stones of the Library of Ephesus. So, when I'm showing you these Ephesus. So, when I'm showing you these Ephesus. So, when I'm showing you these pictures, I'm going to give a little pictures, I'm going to give a little pictures, I'm going to give a little little context. What you need to do if little context. What you need to do if little context. What you need to do if you're a Bible reader is you like I'm you're a Bible reader is you like I'm you're a Bible reader is you like I'm going to show you the Bible actually going to show you the Bible actually going to show you the Bible actually mentions some of these specific places. mentions some of these specific places. mentions some of these specific places. So if you go to Acts 19, it says that So if you go to Acts 19, it says that So if you go to Acts 19, it says that when Paul and Timothy, so Paul's got when Paul and Timothy, so Paul's got when Paul and Timothy, so Paul's got Timothy with him in Acts 19, it says Timothy with him in Acts 19, it says Timothy with him in Acts 19, it says that Paul quote lectured from day to day that Paul quote lectured from day to day that Paul quote lectured from day to day in quote the lecture hall of Tyrannis. in quote the lecture hall of Tyrannis. in quote the lecture hall of Tyrannis. >> Some people think that the lecture hall >> Some people think that the lecture hall >> Some people think that the lecture hall of Tyrannis was either synonymous with of Tyrannis was either synonymous with of Tyrannis was either synonymous with the library or underneath the library. the library or underneath the library. the library or underneath the library. So I just it starts being cool because So I just it starts being cool because So I just it starts being cool because you're reading you're you're standing you're reading you're you're standing you're reading you're you're standing there at Ephesus. You're reading these there at Ephesus. You're reading these there at Ephesus. You're reading these verses and you're like, "Bro, this is verses and you're like, "Bro, this is verses and you're like, "Bro, this is literally where this verse is talking literally where this verse is talking literally where this verse is talking about, man." Okay. So, what happens in about, man." Okay. So, what happens in about, man." Okay. So, what happens in Ephesus, massive outpouring of the Ephesus, massive outpouring of the Ephesus, massive outpouring of the spirit. I'm going to show evidence of spirit. I'm going to show evidence of spirit. I'm going to show evidence of that in a second. There is actually that in a second. There is actually that in a second. There is actually really cool. There is uh archaeological really cool. There is uh archaeological really cool. There is uh archaeological confirmation of the outpouring of the confirmation of the outpouring of the confirmation of the outpouring of the spirit that happened in Ephesus that is spirit that happened in Ephesus that is spirit that happened in Ephesus that is all over Ephesus. It's one of the all over Ephesus. It's one of the all over Ephesus. It's one of the stinking coolest things.

stinking coolest things. stinking coolest things. >> I'll show it here in a second. So, >> I'll show it here in a second. So, >> I'll show it here in a second. So, lecture hallus. All right. Now, so they lecture hallus. All right. Now, so they lecture hallus. All right. Now, so they plant a church. Um then you read in Acts plant a church. Um then you read in Acts plant a church. Um then you read in Acts 19. This is your homework if you're a 19. This is your homework if you're a 19. This is your homework if you're a live free nation listener. You go to live free nation listener. You go to live free nation listener. You go to Acts 19 and it says so many people get Acts 19 and it says so many people get Acts 19 and it says so many people get saved. I told the story last week that saved. I told the story last week that saved. I told the story last week that the uh there's the temple to Artemis and the uh there's the temple to Artemis and the uh there's the temple to Artemis and they got all the idols that they're they got all the idols that they're they got all the idols that they're making all that stuff. So right next to making all that stuff. So right next to making all that stuff. So right next to go ahead and show that next picture. go ahead and show that next picture. go ahead and show that next picture. Right next to the library if you're Right next to the library if you're Right next to the library if you're standing in front of the library looking standing in front of the library looking standing in front of the library looking to the right is the agora. Okay. So the to the right is the agora. Okay. So the to the right is the agora. Okay. So the a means Greek marketplace. So when a means Greek marketplace. So when a means Greek marketplace. So when you're reading in Acts 19 the silver you're reading in Acts 19 the silver you're reading in Acts 19 the silver smith and all these dudes making the the smith and all these dudes making the the smith and all these dudes making the the idols, all that's happening literally idols, all that's happening literally idols, all that's happening literally right there. So this is where this right there. So this is where this right there. So this is where this happening. By the way, if you look at happening. By the way, if you look at happening. By the way, if you look at this picture to the on the left side, I this picture to the on the left side, I this picture to the on the left side, I didn't take it very good. On the left didn't take it very good. On the left didn't take it very good. On the left side of the picture, just out of the side of the picture, just out of the side of the picture, just out of the frame, frame, frame, >> there is still evidence of what would >> there is still evidence of what would >> there is still evidence of what would have been uh a first century synagogue have been uh a first century synagogue have been uh a first century synagogue >> that most people think, if I remember >> that most people think, if I remember >> that most people think, if I remember correctly, turned into a meeting place correctly, turned into a meeting place correctly, turned into a meeting place for the local church, for the local church, for the local church, >> underground underground church. Okay.

>> underground underground church. Okay. >> underground underground church. Okay. >> So, the agora is right here. So, when >> So, the agora is right here. So, when >> So, the agora is right here. So, when all that stuff happens, people get all that stuff happens, people get all that stuff happens, people get ticked to Paul and Timothy for preaching ticked to Paul and Timothy for preaching ticked to Paul and Timothy for preaching the gospel and hey, we can't sell our the gospel and hey, we can't sell our the gospel and hey, we can't sell our idols anymore, bro. That's literally idols anymore, bro. That's literally idols anymore, bro. That's literally happening right there. Okay. Now, if you happening right there. Okay. Now, if you happening right there. Okay. Now, if you uh look go to that next picture. So, uh look go to that next picture. So, uh look go to that next picture. So, here's the I'm here. I'm standing in the here's the I'm here. I'm standing in the here's the I'm here. I'm standing in the agora, but I'm looking to the right agora, but I'm looking to the right agora, but I'm looking to the right >> of where I was talking about earlier. >> of where I was talking about earlier. >> of where I was talking about earlier. You see that crane in the background? You see that crane in the background? You see that crane in the background? >> That's original. No, I'm That's >> That's original. No, I'm That's >> That's original. No, I'm That's a joke. a joke. a joke. >> That's that what they're doing right now >> That's that what they're doing right now >> That's that what they're doing right now is they're reconstructing some of the is they're reconstructing some of the is they're reconstructing some of the theater that Acts 19 mentions. All this theater that Acts 19 mentions. All this theater that Acts 19 mentions. All this is going to make sense here in a second. is going to make sense here in a second. is going to make sense here in a second. I'll explain why I'm saying this. I'll explain why I'm saying this. I'll explain why I'm saying this. So, uh, that the, uh, the Bible So, uh, that the, uh, the Bible So, uh, that the, uh, the Bible literally says, I'm going to read it to literally says, I'm going to read it to literally says, I'm going to read it to you. So, in verse 29, there's all the you. So, in verse 29, there's all the you. So, in verse 29, there's all the big, you know, the riot because Paul and big, you know, the riot because Paul and big, you know, the riot because Paul and Timothy are causing their economy to get Timothy are causing their economy to get Timothy are causing their economy to get up uprooted. Verse 29 says, "The people up uprooted. Verse 29 says, "The people up uprooted. Verse 29 says, "The people seized gas and Eric, Aristocus, Paul's seized gas and Eric, Aristocus, Paul's seized gas and Eric, Aristocus, Paul's traveling companions from Macedonia, and traveling companions from Macedonia, and traveling companions from Macedonia, and all of them rushed into," and then it all of them rushed into," and then it all of them rushed into," and then it says, "The theater." The theater is says, "The theater." The theater is says, "The theater." The theater is right where that So, I'm just trying you right where that So, I'm just trying you right where that So, I'm just trying you to get it in your head. The theater is to get it in your head. The theater is to get it in your head. The theater is where that crane is because they're where that crane is because they're where that crane is because they're reconstructing it. Now, go to that next reconstructing it. Now, go to that next reconstructing it. Now, go to that next picture. This is the theater. It's all picture. This is the theater. It's all picture. This is the theater. It's all of it still there. I mean, like of it still there. I mean, like of it still there. I mean, like basically the whole city where Timothy basically the whole city where Timothy basically the whole city where Timothy is the pastor when second Timothy is is the pastor when second Timothy is is the pastor when second Timothy is written. The whole city's still there.

written. The whole city's still there. written. The whole city's still there. >> So, this that's the theater when you >> So, this that's the theater when you >> So, this that's the theater when you read Acts 19. That's legit. There is no read Acts 19. That's legit. There is no read Acts 19. That's legit. There is no doubt whatsoever. That's where this doubt whatsoever. That's where this doubt whatsoever. That's where this happens. They try to kill Paul right happens. They try to kill Paul right happens. They try to kill Paul right there. Little fun fact, that thing has a there. Little fun fact, that thing has a there. Little fun fact, that thing has a greater seating capacity than the AAC. greater seating capacity than the AAC. greater seating capacity than the AAC. So, I mean, it's it's thinking big. Now, So, I mean, it's it's thinking big. Now, So, I mean, it's it's thinking big. Now, I This is just one thing I love about I This is just one thing I love about I This is just one thing I love about the Apostle Paul. He's surrounded by an the Apostle Paul. He's surrounded by an the Apostle Paul. He's surrounded by an entire theater full of people want to entire theater full of people want to entire theater full of people want to kill him. And Paul essentially goes, kill him. And Paul essentially goes, kill him. And Paul essentially goes, "Sounds like a good time to preach." "Sounds like a good time to preach." "Sounds like a good time to preach." >> He just like, "Soing, so here's what you >> He just like, "Soing, so here's what you >> He just like, "Soing, so here's what you get, and I'm going to get to this in a get, and I'm going to get to this in a get, and I'm going to get to this in a second. Paul is the most fearless man second. Paul is the most fearless man second. Paul is the most fearless man >> in the New Testament." I I actually >> in the New Testament." I I actually >> in the New Testament." I I actually really believe that Paul is the most really believe that Paul is the most really believe that Paul is the most fearless man. And second Timothy, he's fearless man. And second Timothy, he's fearless man. And second Timothy, he's discipling maybe the guy that struggled discipling maybe the guy that struggled discipling maybe the guy that struggled with fear the most. So this is happening with fear the most. So this is happening with fear the most. So this is happening right here. Okay. right here. Okay. right here. Okay. >> Now, you got to remember all this. So >> Now, you got to remember all this. So >> Now, you got to remember all this. So Paul's act, he is that dude. He's like, Paul's act, he is that dude. He's like, Paul's act, he is that dude. He's like, "Man, sounds like a good time to preach. "Man, sounds like a good time to preach. "Man, sounds like a good time to preach. If they kill me, they kill me." Okay, If they kill me, they kill me." Okay, If they kill me, they kill me." Okay, that's just how Paul rolls. Now, that's just how Paul rolls. Now, that's just how Paul rolls. Now, >> he tells Timothy, "Hey man, uh over and >> he tells Timothy, "Hey man, uh over and >> he tells Timothy, "Hey man, uh over and over, "Hey, Tim, don't be afraid. You be over, "Hey, Tim, don't be afraid. You be over, "Hey, Tim, don't be afraid. You be a man of fearlessness and conviction."

a man of fearlessness and conviction." a man of fearlessness and conviction." And what we know about Timothy is he And what we know about Timothy is he And what we know about Timothy is he does it. I I really I love it so much. does it. I I really I love it so much. does it. I I really I love it so much. >> Uh Timothy becomes that man. Timothy >> Uh Timothy becomes that man. Timothy >> Uh Timothy becomes that man. Timothy stays there. I'm going to get to this in stays there. I'm going to get to this in stays there. I'm going to get to this in a second. Um church church history tells a second. Um church church history tells a second. Um church church history tells us that he lives there from when he's us that he lives there from when he's us that he lives there from when he's young. young. young. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Church history tells us he he died >> Church history tells us he he died >> Church history tells us he he died somewhere around when he was 80. I'm somewhere around when he was 80. I'm somewhere around when he was 80. I'm going to tell you the story here in a going to tell you the story here in a going to tell you the story here in a second. He was supposedly martyed for second. He was supposedly martyed for second. He was supposedly martyed for his faith when he was 80 years old. his faith when he was 80 years old. his faith when he was 80 years old. >> And Timothy becomes the man that Paul >> And Timothy becomes the man that Paul >> And Timothy becomes the man that Paul encouraged him to. There is such a encouraged him to. There is such a encouraged him to. There is such a massive outpouring of the spirit in massive outpouring of the spirit in massive outpouring of the spirit in Ephesus. Church history tells us it was Ephesus. Church history tells us it was Ephesus. Church history tells us it was probably outside of Jerusalem, the probably outside of Jerusalem, the probably outside of Jerusalem, the largest New Testament church was in largest New Testament church was in largest New Testament church was in Ephesus. Ephesus. Ephesus. >> What's really awesome, dude, is there is >> What's really awesome, dude, is there is >> What's really awesome, dude, is there is still evidence today all over the city still evidence today all over the city still evidence today all over the city of Ephesus of Timothy's pastoral work. of Ephesus of Timothy's pastoral work. of Ephesus of Timothy's pastoral work. >> So you you know uh we talk we call the >> So you you know uh we talk we call the >> So you you know uh we talk we call the ichthus that we call the Jesus fish. ichthus that we call the Jesus fish. ichthus that we call the Jesus fish. That's what we see. That's what we see. That's what we see. >> The ichthus was not originally the Jesus >> The ichthus was not originally the Jesus >> The ichthus was not originally the Jesus fish. Okay? That's not what the ichthus fish. Okay? That's not what the ichthus fish. Okay? That's not what the ichthus bro this is amazing. Originated in bro this is amazing. Originated in bro this is amazing. Originated in Ephesus under the pastoral leadership of Ephesus under the pastoral leadership of Ephesus under the pastoral leadership of Timothy. No, I didn't. Timothy. No, I didn't. Timothy. No, I didn't. >> If it's this is amazing. If you go to >> If it's this is amazing. If you go to >> If it's this is amazing. If you go to Ephesus today and you you like you don't Ephesus today and you you like you don't Ephesus today and you you like you don't even need some Christian guide to tell even need some Christian guide to tell even need some Christian guide to tell you this. You'll see this little symbol you this. You'll see this little symbol you this. You'll see this little symbol everywhere in the city. Pull that up.

everywhere in the city. Pull that up. everywhere in the city. Pull that up. This is uh if you're standing in front This is uh if you're standing in front This is uh if you're standing in front of that theater, I took this picture. of that theater, I took this picture. of that theater, I took this picture. It's right in front of the theater. It's right in front of the theater. It's right in front of the theater. Okay. So, basically anywhere in Ephesus Okay. So, basically anywhere in Ephesus Okay. So, basically anywhere in Ephesus where Timothy's pastoring, they would where Timothy's pastoring, they would where Timothy's pastoring, they would have these little booths, like a little have these little booths, like a little have these little booths, like a little farmers market vibe. And and you'll see farmers market vibe. And and you'll see farmers market vibe. And and you'll see now originally on the left of the now originally on the left of the now originally on the left of the picture what you're seeing there are the picture what you're seeing there are the picture what you're seeing there are the Greek letters. Um I'm going to make a Greek letters. Um I'm going to make a Greek letters. Um I'm going to make a fool of myself here. It's iota kai fool of myself here. It's iota kai fool of myself here. It's iota kai theta. Uh what's the y looking one? Uh theta. Uh what's the y looking one? Uh theta. Uh what's the y looking one? Uh no no the y looking one. Uh last one's no no the y looking one. Uh last one's no no the y looking one. Uh last one's epsilon. The y looking one. Uh epsilon. The y looking one. Uh epsilon. The y looking one. Uh >> last one is sigma. I think the y one is >> last one is sigma. I think the y one is >> last one is sigma. I think the y one is epsilon. epsilon. epsilon. >> Oh s that. Thank you. Thank you. Thank >> Oh s that. Thank you. Thank you. Thank >> Oh s that. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. That's right. That's capital sigma. you. That's right. That's capital sigma. you. That's right. That's capital sigma. That's right. It looks like an e. It's That's right. It looks like an e. It's That's right. It looks like an e. It's capital sigma. And then that's the Okay. capital sigma. And then that's the Okay. capital sigma. And then that's the Okay. Now, what you got here, that little Now, what you got here, that little Now, what you got here, that little symbol that looks like a wheel with a symbol that looks like a wheel with a symbol that looks like a wheel with a spokes, bro, that's the original Ithus. spokes, bro, that's the original Ithus. spokes, bro, that's the original Ithus. It wasn't originally, and here's what I It wasn't originally, and here's what I It wasn't originally, and here's what I mean. So, us, all that is, us is the mean. So, us, all that is, us is the mean. So, us, all that is, us is the English transliteration of the Greek English transliteration of the Greek English transliteration of the Greek letters, iota, kai, theta, epsilon, letters, iota, kai, theta, epsilon, letters, iota, kai, theta, epsilon, sigma. That all that is is ichthus.

sigma. That all that is is ichthus. sigma. That all that is is ichthus. Okay, those are the letters. And bro, Okay, those are the letters. And bro, Okay, those are the letters. And bro, check this out. Now, I'm gonna uh I'm check this out. Now, I'm gonna uh I'm check this out. Now, I'm gonna uh I'm gonna ruin this and I might get up out gonna ruin this and I might get up out gonna ruin this and I might get up out of my seat, but just do your best here. of my seat, but just do your best here. of my seat, but just do your best here. So the the ichthus so Timothy's the So the the ichthus so Timothy's the So the the ichthus so Timothy's the pastor. The church keeps growing. pastor. The church keeps growing. pastor. The church keeps growing. Apparently he disciples somebody Apparently he disciples somebody Apparently he disciples somebody disciples the Christian business owners. disciples the Christian business owners. disciples the Christian business owners. Hey um don't you're going to get in Hey um don't you're going to get in Hey um don't you're going to get in trouble if people find out if you're a trouble if people find out if you're a trouble if people find out if you're a Christian. So here's here's what we want Christian. So here's here's what we want Christian. So here's here's what we want to do. We want Christians to help other to do. We want Christians to help other to do. We want Christians to help other Christian businesses. By the way, we Christian businesses. By the way, we Christian businesses. By the way, we should still be doing that. That's a should still be doing that. That's a should still be doing that. That's a really good idea. And what he does is um really good idea. And what he does is um really good idea. And what he does is um he apparently in that city it became a he apparently in that city it became a he apparently in that city it became a thing where the Christian business thing where the Christian business thing where the Christian business leaders they would etch that little sign leaders they would etch that little sign leaders they would etch that little sign in front of their little agora booth and in front of their little agora booth and in front of their little agora booth and it was a signal to the other Christians it was a signal to the other Christians it was a signal to the other Christians hey this is a Christian you're safe here hey this is a Christian you're safe here hey this is a Christian you're safe here >> and what that is bro is okay if you look >> and what that is bro is okay if you look >> and what that is bro is okay if you look at it so man I I I hope if you're just at it so man I I I hope if you're just at it so man I I I hope if you're just listening you need to pop over to listening you need to pop over to listening you need to pop over to YouTube so that you can see just this YouTube so that you can see just this YouTube so that you can see just this segment cuz it's so stinking cool Man, segment cuz it's so stinking cool Man, segment cuz it's so stinking cool Man, so that little symbol I'm going to get so that little symbol I'm going to get so that little symbol I'm going to get up and I know this is annoying, but I up and I know this is annoying, but I up and I know this is annoying, but I want you guys to understand. No, then want you guys to understand. No, then want you guys to understand. No, then they won't be able to hear me, will they won't be able to hear me, will they won't be able to hear me, will they?

they? they? >> No, they won't. >> No, they won't. >> No, they won't. >> Ah, dag it. Okay, so you see that >> Ah, dag it. Okay, so you see that >> Ah, dag it. Okay, so you see that basically if you take the middle spoke basically if you take the middle spoke basically if you take the middle spoke with the top part, that's the eye. with the top part, that's the eye. with the top part, that's the eye. >> Then you have this. Look, there's the >> Then you have this. Look, there's the >> Then you have this. Look, there's the kai. Yeah, right. Then look, there's a kai. Yeah, right. Then look, there's a kai. Yeah, right. Then look, there's a theta, the all around with just the line theta, the all around with just the line theta, the all around with just the line across. Then you got the y thing. That's across. Then you got the y thing. That's across. Then you got the y thing. That's the oopsilon. The oopsilon there, the y the oopsilon. The oopsilon there, the y the oopsilon. The oopsilon there, the y thing. And then the epsilon is just if thing. And then the epsilon is just if thing. And then the epsilon is just if you take just the right side of the you take just the right side of the you take just the right side of the ichthus the just the right three. I see ichthus the just the right three. I see ichthus the just the right three. I see it. Yeah. You see that? So bro they So it. Yeah. You see that? So bro they So it. Yeah. You see that? So bro they So and what the what those letters stand and what the what those letters stand and what the what those letters stand for uh iota kai theta oops and sigma is for uh iota kai theta oops and sigma is for uh iota kai theta oops and sigma is uh easus theos uh easus theos uh easus theos uh what's the word for savior? Uh or uh what's the word for savior? Uh or uh what's the word for savior? Uh or lord lord. lord lord. lord lord. >> Uh that'd be curios. >> Uh that'd be curios. >> Uh that'd be curios. >> Yeah that'd be curios. Yeah, it what it >> Yeah that'd be curios. Yeah, it what it >> Yeah that'd be curios. Yeah, it what it stands for is um Jesus Christ, God's stands for is um Jesus Christ, God's stands for is um Jesus Christ, God's son, savior. son, savior. son, savior. >> So, what's the savior? Uh >> So, what's the savior? Uh >> So, what's the savior? Uh >> I'll look it up. >> I'll look it up. >> I'll look it up. >> Look it up. Look it up. That'd be great. >> Look it up. Look it up. That'd be great. >> Look it up. Look it up. That'd be great. Look, look that up. I want to get that Look, look that up. I want to get that Look, look that up. I want to get that right. And so all over the city. So this right. And so all over the city. So this right. And so all over the city. So this is Timothy what became a fearless is Timothy what became a fearless is Timothy what became a fearless spiritfilled preacher.

spiritfilled preacher. spiritfilled preacher. >> There's a revival in the city. And to >> There's a revival in the city. And to >> There's a revival in the city. And to this day, bro, you can still go to the this day, bro, you can still go to the this day, bro, you can still go to the city and see the evidence of Timothy city and see the evidence of Timothy city and see the evidence of Timothy being a faithful, fearless pastor. Now, being a faithful, fearless pastor. Now, being a faithful, fearless pastor. Now, here's what we know. here's what we know. here's what we know. >> So yeah. So >> So yeah. So >> So yeah. So >> stands for uh savior. Savior, which by >> stands for uh savior. Savior, which by >> stands for uh savior. Savior, which by the way, fun fact for listeners, Greek the way, fun fact for listeners, Greek the way, fun fact for listeners, Greek word soter word soter word soter >> means salvation. >> means salvation. >> means salvation. >> Yep. Yep. >> Yep. Yep. >> Yep. Yep. >> Okay. Which by the way is where we get >> Okay. Which by the way is where we get >> Okay. Which by the way is where we get the theological term sotiology, the theological term sotiology, the theological term sotiology, >> which means just study of salvation. >> which means just study of salvation. >> which means just study of salvation. >> That's right. That's right. >> That's right. That's right. >> That's right. That's right. >> So there's your little fun fact. It's >> So there's your little fun fact. It's >> So there's your little fun fact. It's fun to do. fun to do. fun to do. >> I appreciate I got that right. >> I appreciate I got that right. >> I appreciate I got that right. >> You nailed it. >> You nailed it. >> You nailed it. >> I get Thank you. >> I get Thank you. >> I get Thank you. >> I'm insecure. I took a dig at Paul and I >> I'm insecure. I took a dig at Paul and I >> I'm insecure. I took a dig at Paul and I felt guilty the whole time. He literally felt guilty the whole time. He literally felt guilty the whole time. He literally got me back. got me back. got me back. He got you back in the most gracious way He got you back in the most gracious way He got you back in the most gracious way possible. possible. possible. >> Baldness earlier with the residents. I >> Baldness earlier with the residents. I >> Baldness earlier with the residents. I told him the story of Elisha and the two told him the story of Elisha and the two told him the story of Elisha and the two bears. bears. bears. >> Sorry, that's another thing for another >> Sorry, that's another thing for another >> Sorry, that's another thing for another time. time. time. >> Now, here's what we know happened in >> Now, here's what we know happened in >> Now, here's what we know happened in Timothy's life. Timothy's life. Timothy's life. >> And then we can talk about fear real >> And then we can talk about fear real >> And then we can talk about fear real quick and then we can talk about moss quick and then we can talk about moss quick and then we can talk about moss real quick. real quick. real quick. >> Uh uh church history tells us this was >> Uh uh church history tells us this was >> Uh uh church history tells us this was um uh this is one of those things that's um uh this is one of those things that's um uh this is one of those things that's like uh it's one of those, hey, this is like uh it's one of those, hey, this is like uh it's one of those, hey, this is probably true.

probably true. probably true. >> We don't know certainly, but probably >> We don't know certainly, but probably >> We don't know certainly, but probably true. uh in the 300s um church history true. uh in the 300s um church history true. uh in the 300s um church history records, I'm just going to read it to records, I'm just going to read it to records, I'm just going to read it to you, that Timothy remained as bishop of you, that Timothy remained as bishop of you, that Timothy remained as bishop of Ephesus. By the way, fun fact, um not Ephesus. By the way, fun fact, um not Ephesus. By the way, fun fact, um not only was Ephesus that Timothy pastored, only was Ephesus that Timothy pastored, only was Ephesus that Timothy pastored, Paul's favorite church, most people Paul's favorite church, most people Paul's favorite church, most people think, um church history and tradition think, um church history and tradition think, um church history and tradition tells us that Mary, the mother of Jesus, tells us that Mary, the mother of Jesus, tells us that Mary, the mother of Jesus, ended up being a church member at the ended up being a church member at the ended up being a church member at the church at Ephesus. Um and the Apostle church at Ephesus. Um and the Apostle church at Ephesus. Um and the Apostle John. John. John. >> Yeah. Because Ephesus uh is I think the >> Yeah. Because Ephesus uh is I think the >> Yeah. Because Ephesus uh is I think the closest geographically closest New closest geographically closest New closest geographically closest New Testament church to the aisle of Patmas, Testament church to the aisle of Patmas, Testament church to the aisle of Patmas, >> which is where the Apostle John was >> which is where the Apostle John was >> which is where the Apostle John was exiled and he wrote the book of exiled and he wrote the book of exiled and he wrote the book of >> Revelation. Revelation. By the way, for >> Revelation. Revelation. By the way, for >> Revelation. Revelation. By the way, for our listeners, this is a little thing. our listeners, this is a little thing. our listeners, this is a little thing. >> Make sure you never say Revelations. >> Make sure you never say Revelations. >> Make sure you never say Revelations. That is not the title of the book. That is not the title of the book. That is not the title of the book. >> It's not. >> It's not. >> It's not. >> And if you say that, then you out >> And if you say that, then you out >> And if you say that, then you out yourself as not knowing it's not the yourself as not knowing it's not the yourself as not knowing it's not the title of the book. So, title of the book. So, title of the book. So, >> I'm pretty sure I've said Revelations >> I'm pretty sure I've said Revelations >> I'm pretty sure I've said Revelations before. before. before. >> No, that's okay. That's okay. I wonder >> No, that's okay. That's okay. I wonder >> No, that's okay. That's okay. I wonder if you said it at the beginning of this if you said it at the beginning of this if you said it at the beginning of this episode. episode. episode. >> Did I? >> Did I? >> Did I? >> I don't know. Did you talk about it?

>> I don't know. Did you talk about it? >> I don't know. Did you talk about it? >> I don't think so. No, no, no, no, no. >> I don't think so. No, no, no, no, no. >> I don't think so. No, no, no, no, no. >> Yeah, man. >> Yeah, man. >> Yeah, man. >> I will say in Spanish, Revelation is uh >> I will say in Spanish, Revelation is uh >> I will say in Spanish, Revelation is uh literally translated the apocalypse. literally translated the apocalypse. literally translated the apocalypse. >> The apocalypse. >> The apocalypse. >> The apocalypse. >> Apocalypsis. >> Apocalypsis. >> Apocalypsis. >> Well, is it the official title of >> Well, is it the official title of >> Well, is it the official title of Revelation is people just say the Revelation is people just say the Revelation is people just say the apocalypse of of John. The apocalypse apocalypse of of John. The apocalypse apocalypse of of John. The apocalypse and apocalypse, it doesn't mean end and apocalypse, it doesn't mean end and apocalypse, it doesn't mean end times. It just means revealing. That's times. It just means revealing. That's times. It just means revealing. That's right. Yeah. All right. Let me go back right. Yeah. All right. Let me go back right. Yeah. All right. Let me go back to the fine. I like our little tangents. to the fine. I like our little tangents. to the fine. I like our little tangents. So, um so becomes Paul's favorite So, um so becomes Paul's favorite So, um so becomes Paul's favorite church. Mary the mother of Jesus and uh church. Mary the mother of Jesus and uh church. Mary the mother of Jesus and uh the apostle John. This becomes their the apostle John. This becomes their the apostle John. This becomes their home church. They become members of this home church. They become members of this home church. They become members of this church according to church tradition. church according to church tradition. church according to church tradition. >> This is how Timothy dies when he's 80. >> This is how Timothy dies when he's 80. >> This is how Timothy dies when he's 80. Now remember this is the kid that was Now remember this is the kid that was Now remember this is the kid that was the scared kid that Paul has to be like, the scared kid that Paul has to be like, the scared kid that Paul has to be like, "Hey Tim, don't be afraid. Hey buddy, "Hey Tim, don't be afraid. Hey buddy, "Hey Tim, don't be afraid. Hey buddy, don't be afraid." don't be afraid." don't be afraid." >> Timothy remained as bishop of Ephesus >> Timothy remained as bishop of Ephesus >> Timothy remained as bishop of Ephesus after Paul's death. In his old age, after Paul's death. In his old age, after Paul's death. In his old age, tradition says he was about 80 during a tradition says he was about 80 during a tradition says he was about 80 during a pagan festival called the Katagia linked pagan festival called the Katagia linked pagan festival called the Katagia linked to the cult of Dionis or Artemis/Diana. to the cult of Dionis or Artemis/Diana. to the cult of Dionis or Artemis/Diana. Those are the Greek and Roman names. Those are the Greek and Roman names. Those are the Greek and Roman names. Revelers were engaging in wild Revelers were engaging in wild Revelers were engaging in wild idolatrous and violent processions idolatrous and violent processions idolatrous and violent processions through the city, wearing masks, through the city, wearing masks, through the city, wearing masks, carrying clubs, and committing public carrying clubs, and committing public carrying clubs, and committing public immorality and violence.

immorality and violence. immorality and violence. >> Timothy confronted them, urging them to >> Timothy confronted them, urging them to >> Timothy confronted them, urging them to turn from their idols to the true and turn from their idols to the true and turn from their idols to the true and living God. And let me just say, dude, living God. And let me just say, dude, living God. And let me just say, dude, here's what I love. here's what I love. here's what I love. The spiritual son grew up and acted like The spiritual son grew up and acted like The spiritual son grew up and acted like his spiritual father. his spiritual father. his spiritual father. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, I have a feeling in a moment like >> So, I have a feeling in a moment like >> So, I have a feeling in a moment like that, Timothy remembered, "Well, I know that, Timothy remembered, "Well, I know that, Timothy remembered, "Well, I know what my spiritual father did. He stood what my spiritual father did. He stood what my spiritual father did. He stood up in that theater that's right down the up in that theater that's right down the up in that theater that's right down the street and he thought, seems like a good street and he thought, seems like a good street and he thought, seems like a good time to preach the gospel." time to preach the gospel." time to preach the gospel." >> And Timothy, when he was 80, he saw the >> And Timothy, when he was 80, he saw the >> And Timothy, when he was 80, he saw the same thing. And I think he went, "You same thing. And I think he went, "You same thing. And I think he went, "You know what I ought to do? Seems like a know what I ought to do? Seems like a know what I ought to do? Seems like a good time to stand up and preach the good time to stand up and preach the good time to stand up and preach the gospel." gospel." gospel." >> Wow. The crowd turned on him and >> Wow. The crowd turned on him and >> Wow. The crowd turned on him and attacked him, beat him with clubs and attacked him, beat him with clubs and attacked him, beat him with clubs and stones, and dragged him through the stones, and dragged him through the stones, and dragged him through the streets. The streets you just saw with streets. The streets you just saw with streets. The streets you just saw with your very own eyes in those pictures. He your very own eyes in those pictures. He your very own eyes in those pictures. He died from his injuries. Some accounts died from his injuries. Some accounts died from his injuries. Some accounts say that he lingered for two days say that he lingered for two days say that he lingered for two days suffering before he died. suffering before he died. suffering before he died. >> And let me just say, well done, good and >> And let me just say, well done, good and >> And let me just say, well done, good and faithful Timothy. faithful Timothy. faithful Timothy. >> So awesome, dude. So awesome. >> So awesome, dude. So awesome. >> So awesome, dude. So awesome. >> So good. So the whole book is just Paul >> So good. So the whole book is just Paul >> So good. So the whole book is just Paul going, "Hey man, let me disciple you, going, "Hey man, let me disciple you, going, "Hey man, let me disciple you, Timothy." And you have a besetting sin.

Timothy." And you have a besetting sin. Timothy." And you have a besetting sin. Let me disciple you on that besetting Let me disciple you on that besetting Let me disciple you on that besetting sin. And it becomes uh helping him with sin. And it becomes uh helping him with sin. And it becomes uh helping him with his fear. So this whole passage we were his fear. So this whole passage we were his fear. So this whole passage we were preaching was about the fear stuff. Now preaching was about the fear stuff. Now preaching was about the fear stuff. Now I can go wherever you want me to go on I can go wherever you want me to go on I can go wherever you want me to go on this, this, this, >> but uh there was there was a lot that >> but uh there was there was a lot that >> but uh there was there was a lot that didn't make it in, and that's the didn't make it in, and that's the didn't make it in, and that's the context. context. context. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So I want to ask you this, Pastor Josh. >> So I want to ask you this, Pastor Josh. >> So I want to ask you this, Pastor Josh. There is a particular section in this There is a particular section in this There is a particular section in this text that you shared uh that talks about text that you shared uh that talks about text that you shared uh that talks about the gift of God. the gift of God. the gift of God. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh which is in you through the laying of >> Uh which is in you through the laying of >> Uh which is in you through the laying of the hands. the hands. the hands. >> You have a particular theory about what >> You have a particular theory about what >> You have a particular theory about what is that gift specifically. is that gift specifically. is that gift specifically. >> Okay. Uh yes, I do. >> Okay. Uh yes, I do. >> Okay. Uh yes, I do. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> And I before I explain it, I will say um >> And I before I explain it, I will say um >> And I before I explain it, I will say um Bible there uh there's kind of two views Bible there uh there's kind of two views Bible there uh there's kind of two views on this and I I think I might be in the on this and I I think I might be in the on this and I I think I might be in the minority view. Um, but I'm I'm like 10 minority view. Um, but I'm I'm like 10 minority view. Um, but I'm I'm like 10 toes down on this. toes down on this. toes down on this. >> I think Paul disagrees with you, but >> I think Paul disagrees with you, but >> I think Paul disagrees with you, but >> it's okay if you do. It's seriously okay >> it's okay if you do. It's seriously okay >> it's okay if you do. It's seriously okay if you do. It's so This is one where if you do. It's so This is one where if you do. It's so This is one where it's like, hey, second or third ser it's like, hey, second or third ser it's like, hey, second or third ser issue, not hurting my feelings. issue, not hurting my feelings. issue, not hurting my feelings. >> But, u, dude, I I I really I spent the >> But, u, dude, I I I really I spent the >> But, u, dude, I I I really I spent the first day and a half, sometimes in first day and a half, sometimes in first day and a half, sometimes in sermon prep, I'll just get obsessed with sermon prep, I'll just get obsessed with sermon prep, I'll just get obsessed with like one thing like one thing like one thing >> and it's just doing something for my >> and it's just doing something for my >> and it's just doing something for my soul. And so, for the first day and a soul. And so, for the first day and a soul. And so, for the first day and a half of sermon prep, all I did was just half of sermon prep, all I did was just half of sermon prep, all I did was just study that little phrase.

study that little phrase. study that little phrase. >> All right. Well, let me do this. Okay. >> All right. Well, let me do this. Okay. >> All right. Well, let me do this. Okay. Um, let me back up. So, le let's read Um, let me back up. So, le let's read Um, let me back up. So, le let's read that verse. Yeah, it is uh 2 Timothy 16. that verse. Yeah, it is uh 2 Timothy 16. that verse. Yeah, it is uh 2 Timothy 16. >> 16. >> 16. >> 16. >> Paul says, "For this reason," and the >> Paul says, "For this reason," and the >> Paul says, "For this reason," and the this reason is, "Hey, Timothy, your mama this reason is, "Hey, Timothy, your mama this reason is, "Hey, Timothy, your mama and your grandmama, they prayed for you. and your grandmama, they prayed for you. and your grandmama, they prayed for you. >> For this reason, I remind you to fan >> For this reason, I remind you to fan >> For this reason, I remind you to fan into flame the gift of God which is in into flame the gift of God which is in into flame the gift of God which is in you through the laying on of my hands." you through the laying on of my hands." you through the laying on of my hands." And here's the big verse. For God has uh And here's the big verse. For God has uh And here's the big verse. For God has uh for God gave us a spirit not of fear. I for God gave us a spirit not of fear. I for God gave us a spirit not of fear. I love this. But of power and of love love this. But of power and of love love this. But of power and of love >> and of self-control. >> and of self-control. >> and of self-control. >> Let me just riff on this and then I'm >> Let me just riff on this and then I'm >> Let me just riff on this and then I'm going to get to what I think that I'm going to get to what I think that I'm going to get to what I think that I'm just going to cut to the chase. I think just going to cut to the chase. I think just going to cut to the chase. I think that verse is talking about Timothy's that verse is talking about Timothy's that verse is talking about Timothy's and I don't care what you call it. Uh I and I don't care what you call it. Uh I and I don't care what you call it. Uh I think some people call it spirit think some people call it spirit think some people call it spirit baptism, baptism, baptism, >> baptism of the Holy Spirit. Some people >> baptism of the Holy Spirit. Some people >> baptism of the Holy Spirit. Some people will just call it uh being filled with will just call it uh being filled with will just call it uh being filled with the spirit. the spirit. the spirit. >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Our Presbyterian friends might call it >> Our Presbyterian friends might call it >> Our Presbyterian friends might call it uncction. uncction. uncction. >> I like that word. >> I like that word. >> I like that word. >> I think it's specifically talking about >> I think it's specifically talking about >> I think it's specifically talking about uh Timothy's baptism of the Holy Spirit. uh Timothy's baptism of the Holy Spirit. uh Timothy's baptism of the Holy Spirit. >> Interesting. >> Interesting. >> Interesting. >> And I'm going to explain why I think >> And I'm going to explain why I think >> And I'm going to explain why I think that here in a second. that here in a second. that here in a second. >> I've never heard that before. >> I've never heard that before. >> I've never heard that before. >> And again, I think I think I might be in >> And again, I think I think I might be in >> And again, I think I think I might be in the slight minority view, but dude, I the slight minority view, but dude, I the slight minority view, but dude, I think when I'm done, I think I can win think when I'm done, I think I can win think when I'm done, I think I can win you. But let me just say a few things you. But let me just say a few things you. But let me just say a few things about this. Um sermon is really about about this. Um sermon is really about about this. Um sermon is really about fear. Um, let me just differentiate a fear. Um, let me just differentiate a fear. Um, let me just differentiate a couple things. Um, and then I want to couple things. Um, and then I want to couple things. Um, and then I want to get to the thing I I've been waiting for get to the thing I I've been waiting for get to the thing I I've been waiting for three years to get into a sermon. I three years to get into a sermon. I three years to get into a sermon. I couldn't. First of all, um, it says we couldn't. First of all, um, it says we couldn't. First of all, um, it says we have not been given a spirit of fear. have not been given a spirit of fear. have not been given a spirit of fear. There's, let me just say there's a There's, let me just say there's a There's, let me just say there's a difference between feeling scared and a difference between feeling scared and a difference between feeling scared and a spirit of fear. spirit of fear. spirit of fear. >> I I think the Bible different >> I I think the Bible different >> I I think the Bible different differentiates between those two things. differentiates between those two things. differentiates between those two things. >> Um, scared is just feelings of fear. >> Um, scared is just feelings of fear. >> Um, scared is just feelings of fear. Scared's fine. Scared's normal, Scared's fine. Scared's normal, Scared's fine. Scared's normal, honestly. Scared Scared keeps you alive honestly. Scared Scared keeps you alive honestly. Scared Scared keeps you alive when a bear is chasing you or there's when a bear is chasing you or there's when a bear is chasing you or there's lightning outside. Scared that's fine. lightning outside. Scared that's fine. lightning outside. Scared that's fine. Like God gave us emotions for a reason. Like God gave us emotions for a reason. Like God gave us emotions for a reason. Scared's fine. And then what the Bible Scared's fine. And then what the Bible Scared's fine. And then what the Bible says is sometimes when you're scared, says is sometimes when you're scared, says is sometimes when you're scared, what we do is in the uh face of feelings what we do is in the uh face of feelings what we do is in the uh face of feelings of fear, we take steps of faith. The of fear, we take steps of faith. The of fear, we take steps of faith. The Bible calls that courage. That's Bible calls that courage. That's Bible calls that courage. That's wonderful. We need to be people of wonderful. We need to be people of wonderful. We need to be people of courage. But there's a difference courage. But there's a difference courage. But there's a difference between feeling scared and what I think between feeling scared and what I think between feeling scared and what I think Paul is talking about here when he says Paul is talking about here when he says Paul is talking about here when he says a spirit of fear. Okay? Feeling scared a spirit of fear. Okay? Feeling scared a spirit of fear. Okay? Feeling scared is like is feeling I kind of we'll use is like is feeling I kind of we'll use is like is feeling I kind of we'll use this language feelings that are on you.

this language feelings that are on you. this language feelings that are on you. >> It's on you. What you can never do is >> It's on you. What you can never do is >> It's on you. What you can never do is let the fear get in you and begin to let the fear get in you and begin to let the fear get in you and begin to control you in the way that the Holy control you in the way that the Holy control you in the way that the Holy Spirit is designed to control a Spirit is designed to control a Spirit is designed to control a Christian. That's what I think Timothy Christian. That's what I think Timothy Christian. That's what I think Timothy is saying. There are times in your life, is saying. There are times in your life, is saying. There are times in your life, I have definitely had times in my life I have definitely had times in my life I have definitely had times in my life when this happened where fear moves from when this happened where fear moves from when this happened where fear moves from being on me to being in me. And all of a being on me to being in me. And all of a being on me to being in me. And all of a sudden, the role that the Holy Spirit is sudden, the role that the Holy Spirit is sudden, the role that the Holy Spirit is supposed to play and I'm supposed to supposed to play and I'm supposed to supposed to play and I'm supposed to walk by the Holy Spirit. I'm supposed to walk by the Holy Spirit. I'm supposed to walk by the Holy Spirit. I'm supposed to be led by the Holy Spirit. And all of a be led by the Holy Spirit. And all of a be led by the Holy Spirit. And all of a sudden, dude, I just look up and sudden, dude, I just look up and sudden, dude, I just look up and honestly, I'm walking according to my honestly, I'm walking according to my honestly, I'm walking according to my fear and I'm being led by a spirit of fear and I'm being led by a spirit of fear and I'm being led by a spirit of fear. fear. fear. >> And it's when if you're looking at your >> And it's when if you're looking at your >> And it's when if you're looking at your life and like if you're a listener right life and like if you're a listener right life and like if you're a listener right now, I would ask you in the next 30 now, I would ask you in the next 30 now, I would ask you in the next 30 seconds just to say, Lord, if this is me seconds just to say, Lord, if this is me seconds just to say, Lord, if this is me in any area of my life, will you show it in any area of my life, will you show it in any area of my life, will you show it to me when he says it? H if you're to me when he says it? H if you're to me when he says it? H if you're looking at your life and you start to looking at your life and you start to looking at your life and you start to realize, wait, wait a second. realize, wait, wait a second. realize, wait, wait a second. Fear is actually the thing that's Fear is actually the thing that's Fear is actually the thing that's telling me what I can do and what I telling me what I can do and what I telling me what I can do and what I can't do anymore. can't do anymore. can't do anymore. >> Huh? >> Huh? >> Huh? I mean, actually, I'm I'm a slave to I mean, actually, I'm I'm a slave to I mean, actually, I'm I'm a slave to fear. Maybe fear is telling me where I fear. Maybe fear is telling me where I fear. Maybe fear is telling me where I can go and where I can't go. Fear is can go and where I can't go. Fear is can go and where I can't go. Fear is what about this? Fear is telling me when what about this? Fear is telling me when what about this? Fear is telling me when I can sleep and when I can't sleep. Fear I can sleep and when I can't sleep. Fear I can sleep and when I can't sleep. Fear is telling me what I can do with my is telling me what I can do with my is telling me what I can do with my money and what I can't do with my or money and what I can't do with my or money and what I can't do with my or things like this. Um, if you ever get to things like this. Um, if you ever get to things like this. Um, if you ever get to a spot in your life where you're a spot in your life where you're a spot in your life where you're realizing, bro, fear is actually telling realizing, bro, fear is actually telling realizing, bro, fear is actually telling me when I will obey God and when I won't me when I will obey God and when I won't me when I will obey God and when I won't obey God.

obey God. obey God. >> Well, you're no longer controlled by the >> Well, you're no longer controlled by the >> Well, you're no longer controlled by the Holy Spirit. You're being controlled by Holy Spirit. You're being controlled by Holy Spirit. You're being controlled by an unholy spirit, the spirit of fear. an unholy spirit, the spirit of fear. an unholy spirit, the spirit of fear. >> And that's that's what Paul's talking >> And that's that's what Paul's talking >> And that's that's what Paul's talking about here. Okay? And I I'll just say, about here. Okay? And I I'll just say, about here. Okay? And I I'll just say, and I don't have time to do this, um I and I don't have time to do this, um I and I don't have time to do this, um I listed in sermon prep this week every listed in sermon prep this week every listed in sermon prep this week every single one of the greatest blessings God single one of the greatest blessings God single one of the greatest blessings God has ever given me. And I have never has ever given me. And I have never has ever given me. And I have never received a blessing God has given me received a blessing God has given me received a blessing God has given me that was not on the other side of some that was not on the other side of some that was not on the other side of some kind of fear. kind of fear. kind of fear. >> Uh getting saved, getting baptized, uh >> Uh getting saved, getting baptized, uh >> Uh getting saved, getting baptized, uh dating Jana, uh deciding to adopt kids, dating Jana, uh deciding to adopt kids, dating Jana, uh deciding to adopt kids, deciding to come to Lake Point, stepping deciding to come to Lake Point, stepping deciding to come to Lake Point, stepping into my calling as a preacher is very into my calling as a preacher is very into my calling as a preacher is very interesting to me. Every single one, interesting to me. Every single one, interesting to me. Every single one, >> every single one of the great blessings >> every single one of the great blessings >> every single one of the great blessings God has brought me were on the other God has brought me were on the other God has brought me were on the other side of some fear. The reason for that side of some fear. The reason for that side of some fear. The reason for that is fear in my opinion is the number one is fear in my opinion is the number one is fear in my opinion is the number one thing that the enemy uses to keep you thing that the enemy uses to keep you thing that the enemy uses to keep you from everything God wants in your life. from everything God wants in your life. from everything God wants in your life. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And dude, so let me let me just prove >> And dude, so let me let me just prove >> And dude, so let me let me just prove this. And bro, this is the thing. I've this. And bro, this is the thing. I've this. And bro, this is the thing. I've been waiting like three or four years to been waiting like three or four years to been waiting like three or four years to get into a sermon and I can never find a get into a sermon and I can never find a get into a sermon and I can never find a time until now. Come on. Boom. Okay. So, time until now. Come on. Boom. Okay. So, time until now. Come on. Boom. Okay. So, bro, bro, bro, >> kick this big.

>> kick this big. >> kick this big. >> Let's kick this big. So, bro, check this >> Let's kick this big. So, bro, check this >> Let's kick this big. So, bro, check this out. So, few years ago when I went to out. So, few years ago when I went to out. So, few years ago when I went to Israel, I will refrain from joking. Uh, Israel, I will refrain from joking. Uh, Israel, I will refrain from joking. Uh, we went over to Cesaria Philippi. we went over to Cesaria Philippi. we went over to Cesaria Philippi. >> Now, Cesaria Philippi, bro, this is just >> Now, Cesaria Philippi, bro, this is just >> Now, Cesaria Philippi, bro, this is just so stinking awesome. This is one of so stinking awesome. This is one of so stinking awesome. This is one of those things when you're done, you're those things when you're done, you're those things when you're done, you're like, the Bible's amazing. So, Cesaria like, the Bible's amazing. So, Cesaria like, the Bible's amazing. So, Cesaria Philippi, Carlos. Philippi, Carlos. Philippi, Carlos. >> Yes. That's where Jesus pulls the >> Yes. That's where Jesus pulls the >> Yes. That's where Jesus pulls the disciples out into the dead gum middle disciples out into the dead gum middle disciples out into the dead gum middle of nowhere. There's nothing out there. of nowhere. There's nothing out there. of nowhere. There's nothing out there. Like for real, you're out in it's a one Like for real, you're out in it's a one Like for real, you're out in it's a one stoplight hicktown kind of thing. And stoplight hicktown kind of thing. And stoplight hicktown kind of thing. And that's where Jesus apparently points at that's where Jesus apparently points at that's where Jesus apparently points at some rock. some rock. some rock. And he goes, "Hey, uh, I will build my And he goes, "Hey, uh, I will build my And he goes, "Hey, uh, I will build my church and the gates of," and this is church and the gates of," and this is church and the gates of," and this is very interesting. It does not say the very interesting. It does not say the very interesting. It does not say the gates of hell. What does it say? The gates of hell. What does it say? The gates of hell. What does it say? The gates of gates of gates of >> Hades. Hades. Okay, now bookmark that. >> Hades. Hades. Okay, now bookmark that. >> Hades. Hades. Okay, now bookmark that. There's a reason for that that most There's a reason for that that most There's a reason for that that most people, they'd never see this. So Jesus people, they'd never see this. So Jesus people, they'd never see this. So Jesus apparently points to some rock. I wonder apparently points to some rock. I wonder apparently points to some rock. I wonder what rock. And then he goes, "The gates what rock. And then he goes, "The gates what rock. And then he goes, "The gates of Hades will not prevail against it." of Hades will not prevail against it." of Hades will not prevail against it." Now when you go out to Cesaria Philippi Now when you go out to Cesaria Philippi Now when you go out to Cesaria Philippi at the bottom of Mount Hermon, there is at the bottom of Mount Hermon, there is at the bottom of Mount Hermon, there is one spot and one spot only that people one spot and one spot only that people one spot and one spot only that people are like, "This is probably where it was are like, "This is probably where it was are like, "This is probably where it was because this rock formation is there."

because this rock formation is there." because this rock formation is there." Go ahead and toss it up here. Okay? It's Go ahead and toss it up here. Okay? It's Go ahead and toss it up here. Okay? It's the only spot around there where there's the only spot around there where there's the only spot around there where there's some prominent rock location. Now, some prominent rock location. Now, some prominent rock location. Now, here's what's nuts. So this is the here's what's nuts. So this is the here's what's nuts. So this is the bottom of Mount Herman. Now, you got to bottom of Mount Herman. Now, you got to bottom of Mount Herman. Now, you got to remember it's first century. This is remember it's first century. This is remember it's first century. This is Greco Roman Empire with all the Greek Greco Roman Empire with all the Greek Greco Roman Empire with all the Greek and Roman gods. and Roman gods. and Roman gods. >> Now, dude, the tradition at that time >> Now, dude, the tradition at that time >> Now, dude, the tradition at that time when Jesus is alive is that now, and when Jesus is alive is that now, and when Jesus is alive is that now, and again, we're asking this question, why again, we're asking this question, why again, we're asking this question, why does Jesus walk all the way out into the does Jesus walk all the way out into the does Jesus walk all the way out into the middle of nowhere where there's nothing middle of nowhere where there's nothing middle of nowhere where there's nothing else around there to do the on this rock else around there to do the on this rock else around there to do the on this rock I will build my church, the gates of I will build my church, the gates of I will build my church, the gates of Hades will not prevail against it. So, Hades will not prevail against it. So, Hades will not prevail against it. So, he walks all the way out, finds this one he walks all the way out, finds this one he walks all the way out, finds this one rock, and goes points at the rock and rock, and goes points at the rock and rock, and goes points at the rock and goes uh the gates of Hades will never goes uh the gates of Hades will never goes uh the gates of Hades will never prevail against my kingdom. Greor Roman prevail against my kingdom. Greor Roman prevail against my kingdom. Greor Roman Empire, Greor Roman gods. Uh the Empire, Greor Roman gods. Uh the Empire, Greor Roman gods. Uh the tradition was at that time this spot tradition was at that time this spot tradition was at that time this spot right there, that cave at the bottom of right there, that cave at the bottom of right there, that cave at the bottom of Mount Herman was the dwelling place in Mount Herman was the dwelling place in Mount Herman was the dwelling place in their minds. Do you know this their minds. Do you know this their minds. Do you know this >> of of pan of the of the Greek Roman god >> of of pan of the of the Greek Roman god >> of of pan of the of the Greek Roman god pan pan pan >> which oh by the way was associated with >> which oh by the way was associated with >> which oh by the way was associated with fear which oh by the way is where we get fear which oh by the way is where we get fear which oh by the way is where we get the English word panic the English word panic the English word panic to this day where we get the English to this day where we get the English to this day where we get the English word panic is from their belief that word panic is from their belief that word panic is from their belief that anytime you saw the god pan that you anytime you saw the god pan that you anytime you saw the god pan that you would just be consumed by an irrational would just be consumed by an irrational would just be consumed by an irrational controlling controlling controlling spirit. spirit of fear.

spirit. spirit of fear. spirit. spirit of fear. >> And bro, Jesus walks all the way out to >> And bro, Jesus walks all the way out to >> And bro, Jesus walks all the way out to that dagum rock, that dagum rock, that dagum rock, >> points at that rock. People are >> points at that rock. People are >> points at that rock. People are terrified of pan. They're being terrified of pan. They're being terrified of pan. They're being controlled by panic. That's what's going controlled by panic. That's what's going controlled by panic. That's what's going on their head. And Jesus points at that on their head. And Jesus points at that on their head. And Jesus points at that rock. And essentially, he says, "On that rock. And essentially, he says, "On that rock. And essentially, he says, "On that rock, I'm going to build my church. I'm rock, I'm going to build my church. I'm rock, I'm going to build my church. I'm going to essentially I'm going to dunk going to essentially I'm going to dunk going to essentially I'm going to dunk on that God. on that God. on that God. >> On this rock, I will build my kingdom." >> On this rock, I will build my kingdom." >> On this rock, I will build my kingdom." And what he was saying is the god of And what he was saying is the god of And what he was saying is the god of pan, the god of panic, pan, the god of panic, pan, the god of panic, >> wow, >> wow, >> wow, >> shall not prevail. Why? Because the >> shall not prevail. Why? Because the >> shall not prevail. Why? Because the prince of peace is here. prince of peace is here. prince of peace is here. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> You will no longer be controlled by a >> You will no longer be controlled by a >> You will no longer be controlled by a spirit of fear, but by a per spirit of spirit of fear, but by a per spirit of spirit of fear, but by a per spirit of power and of love and of a right mind. power and of love and of a right mind. power and of love and of a right mind. Because when you know the prince of Because when you know the prince of Because when you know the prince of peace, you can have peace. Bro, that is peace, you can have peace. Bro, that is peace, you can have peace. Bro, that is that nuts, dude. I've been wanting to that nuts, dude. I've been wanting to that nuts, dude. I've been wanting to get that into a sermon forever. get that into a sermon forever. get that into a sermon forever. >> That was amazing. That's okay. So, >> That was amazing. That's okay. So, >> That was amazing. That's okay. So, that's the the whole thing that's going that's the the whole thing that's going that's the the whole thing that's going on in this in this passage throughout on in this in this passage throughout on in this in this passage throughout the scriptures is the unholy spirit does the scriptures is the unholy spirit does the scriptures is the unholy spirit does fear. The Holy Spirit does faith and fear. The Holy Spirit does faith and fear. The Holy Spirit does faith and peace. That's what's going on. Okay.

peace. That's what's going on. Okay. peace. That's what's going on. Okay. >> Paul, any thoughts on that? >> Paul, any thoughts on that? >> Paul, any thoughts on that? >> No. I mean, that was incredible. I'm not >> No. I mean, that was incredible. I'm not >> No. I mean, that was incredible. I'm not going to add to that. You can help it. going to add to that. You can help it. going to add to that. You can help it. It's like, It's like, It's like, >> no, I will say this, dude. Can I just >> no, I will say this, dude. Can I just >> no, I will say this, dude. Can I just Let me just Bro, there man, there's so Let me just Bro, there man, there's so Let me just Bro, there man, there's so many things you didn't make in the many things you didn't make in the many things you didn't make in the sermon. It's going to actually kill me sermon. It's going to actually kill me sermon. It's going to actually kill me not to do all this stuff, but the not to do all this stuff, but the not to do all this stuff, but the podcast will get too long. I will just podcast will get too long. I will just podcast will get too long. I will just say one other thing on this people want say one other thing on this people want say one other thing on this people want it. All right, we'll see. We'll see. It it. All right, we'll see. We'll see. It it. All right, we'll see. We'll see. It depends how it feels. depends how it feels. depends how it feels. >> One thing I will say is uh there is >> One thing I will say is uh there is >> One thing I will say is uh there is something that Christians say to each something that Christians say to each something that Christians say to each other a lot that they don't know it. I other a lot that they don't know it. I other a lot that they don't know it. I think Christians are accidentally think Christians are accidentally think Christians are accidentally discipling each other into being discipling each other into being discipling each other into being disciples of Satan. And I'm not joking. disciples of Satan. And I'm not joking. disciples of Satan. And I'm not joking. So, bro, here's I'll just here's a a So, bro, here's I'll just here's a a So, bro, here's I'll just here's a a warning that I will give you that if you warning that I will give you that if you warning that I will give you that if you don't get over this thing in your head, don't get over this thing in your head, don't get over this thing in your head, you ain't never going to be led by the you ain't never going to be led by the you ain't never going to be led by the Holy Spirit. Christians will do this Holy Spirit. Christians will do this Holy Spirit. Christians will do this thing. It's one of those smart thing uh thing. It's one of those smart thing uh thing. It's one of those smart thing uh dumb things smart Christians believe dumb things smart Christians believe dumb things smart Christians believe where they'll say, "Hey, man. You're where they'll say, "Hey, man. You're where they'll say, "Hey, man. You're trying to discern what the will of God trying to discern what the will of God trying to discern what the will of God is." Here's all you need to do. You ask is." Here's all you need to do. You ask is." Here's all you need to do. You ask yourself, do you have a peace about it? yourself, do you have a peace about it? yourself, do you have a peace about it? >> And if if you have peace about it, then >> And if if you have peace about it, then >> And if if you have peace about it, then it's from God. And if you don't have a it's from God. And if you don't have a it's from God. And if you don't have a peace about it, it's not from the Lord.

peace about it, it's not from the Lord. peace about it, it's not from the Lord. >> And I always just when I hear that, I >> And I always just when I hear that, I >> And I always just when I hear that, I always just wanted, will you please shut always just wanted, will you please shut always just wanted, will you please shut up? Like, here's what I mean, dude. up? Like, here's what I mean, dude. up? Like, here's what I mean, dude. Listen, if I'm like I'm always like, Listen, if I'm like I'm always like, Listen, if I'm like I'm always like, "Bro, have you read your Bible?" Like, "Bro, have you read your Bible?" Like, "Bro, have you read your Bible?" Like, when when you look in a Bible, when when when you look in a Bible, when when when you look in a Bible, when people are taking steps of faith to people are taking steps of faith to people are taking steps of faith to follow God and be led by the spirit, follow God and be led by the spirit, follow God and be led by the spirit, they almost never they almost never they almost never >> are fearless and just tranquil. Like >> are fearless and just tranquil. Like >> are fearless and just tranquil. Like Moses is he's so scared he's stuttering. Moses is he's so scared he's stuttering. Moses is he's so scared he's stuttering. >> You've got uh Jesus in Gethsemane. Does >> You've got uh Jesus in Gethsemane. Does >> You've got uh Jesus in Gethsemane. Does it sound like a spirit of I have a peace it sound like a spirit of I have a peace it sound like a spirit of I have a peace about going to the He's sweating blood. about going to the He's sweating blood. about going to the He's sweating blood. His capillaries are exploding because His capillaries are exploding because His capillaries are exploding because he's overwhelmed by anxiety and fear. he's overwhelmed by anxiety and fear. he's overwhelmed by anxiety and fear. He's like, "God, would you if you do He's like, "God, would you if you do He's like, "God, would you if you do anything else except this, would you do anything else except this, would you do anything else except this, would you do it?" it?" it?" >> He's like, "That is, you know, do you >> He's like, "That is, you know, do you >> He's like, "That is, you know, do you have a piece about it?" Uh, you I could have a piece about it?" Uh, you I could have a piece about it?" Uh, you I could do this all day. Um, when uh when Joshua do this all day. Um, when uh when Joshua do this all day. Um, when uh when Joshua is being encouraged, yes, to take over is being encouraged, yes, to take over is being encouraged, yes, to take over the nation of Israel three times, what the nation of Israel three times, what the nation of Israel three times, what do they say three times? do they say three times? do they say three times? >> Fear not. >> Fear not. >> Fear not. >> Be strong and fear not. Be strong and >> Be strong and fear not. Be strong and >> Be strong and fear not. Be strong and courageous. Be strong and courageous. Be courageous. Be strong and courageous. Be courageous. Be strong and courageous. Be strong and courageous. Why? Because strong and courageous. Why? Because strong and courageous. Why? Because Joshua felt weak and afraid, weak and Joshua felt weak and afraid, weak and Joshua felt weak and afraid, weak and afraid, weak and afraid.

afraid, weak and afraid. afraid, weak and afraid. >> So what I say is, bro, when Christians >> So what I say is, bro, when Christians >> So what I say is, bro, when Christians disciple each other by saying, "Hey, disciple each other by saying, "Hey, disciple each other by saying, "Hey, man, here's how you know if you're be if man, here's how you know if you're be if man, here's how you know if you're be if it's of the spirit, do you have a piece it's of the spirit, do you have a piece it's of the spirit, do you have a piece about what you're accidentally doing is about what you're accidentally doing is about what you're accidentally doing is you're discipling people to put fear you're discipling people to put fear you're discipling people to put fear into the driver's seat of their life. into the driver's seat of their life. into the driver's seat of their life. Watch for anytime they have fear. And if Watch for anytime they have fear. And if Watch for anytime they have fear. And if you have fear, don't do the thing." And you have fear, don't do the thing." And you have fear, don't do the thing." And oh, by the way, guess who puts fear in oh, by the way, guess who puts fear in oh, by the way, guess who puts fear in you according to scriptures? Satan. So you according to scriptures? Satan. So you according to scriptures? Satan. So you're accidentally Christianizing the you're accidentally Christianizing the you're accidentally Christianizing the concept of people being controlled and concept of people being controlled and concept of people being controlled and reverse engineing engineering their reverse engineing engineering their reverse engineing engineering their decisions by a spirit of fear. So here's decisions by a spirit of fear. So here's decisions by a spirit of fear. So here's what I would say to Christians, man. If what I would say to Christians, man. If what I would say to Christians, man. If you want to figure out if something go you want to figure out if something go you want to figure out if something go is God's will for your life, the is God's will for your life, the is God's will for your life, the question isn't do you feel a peace about question isn't do you feel a peace about question isn't do you feel a peace about it? The question is, has the word of God it? The question is, has the word of God it? The question is, has the word of God spoken about it? Yeah, spoken about it? Yeah, spoken about it? Yeah, >> that's the question. And then, dude, >> that's the question. And then, dude, >> that's the question. And then, dude, you're going to have times when you look you're going to have times when you look you're going to have times when you look at it and you know what the word of God at it and you know what the word of God at it and you know what the word of God says or what the spirit of God has led says or what the spirit of God has led says or what the spirit of God has led you to do and your knees are going to be you to do and your knees are going to be you to do and your knees are going to be buckling and shaken and you know you're buckling and shaken and you know you're buckling and shaken and you know you're going to have those moments and you going to have those moments and you going to have those moments and you decide to plant your feet firmly on the decide to plant your feet firmly on the decide to plant your feet firmly on the word of God and move forward anyway in word of God and move forward anyway in word of God and move forward anyway in faith. That's what it looks like to be faith. That's what it looks like to be faith. That's what it looks like to be led by the spirit.

led by the spirit. led by the spirit. >> That's great, man. That's great. >> That's great, man. That's great. >> That's great, man. That's great. >> And I think with both of these things, >> And I think with both of these things, >> And I think with both of these things, one thing that come to my mind, I think one thing that come to my mind, I think one thing that come to my mind, I think it was Watchmen knee who first talked it was Watchmen knee who first talked it was Watchmen knee who first talked about this. We talked about there's about this. We talked about there's about this. We talked about there's three things. There's facts, there's three things. There's facts, there's three things. There's facts, there's faith, and there's feelings. And you've faith, and there's feelings. And you've faith, and there's feelings. And you've got to get them in the right order. got to get them in the right order. got to get them in the right order. >> Do this thing. >> Do this thing. >> Do this thing. >> It's like the thing that should go first >> It's like the thing that should go first >> It's like the thing that should go first in your life are the facts. The facts of in your life are the facts. The facts of in your life are the facts. The facts of who God is, the facts of what God has who God is, the facts of what God has who God is, the facts of what God has done, and who he is for me. And so the done, and who he is for me. And so the done, and who he is for me. And so the idea is like whenever God speaks to idea is like whenever God speaks to idea is like whenever God speaks to people and says, "Fear not." By the way, people and says, "Fear not." By the way, people and says, "Fear not." By the way, you don't tell people to to not fear you don't tell people to to not fear you don't tell people to to not fear unless there's something to be afraid unless there's something to be afraid unless there's something to be afraid of. of. of. >> Bingo, >> Bingo, >> Bingo, >> like ever. So when he's talking to >> like ever. So when he's talking to >> like ever. So when he's talking to Joshua, they're going into the promised Joshua, they're going into the promised Joshua, they're going into the promised land and facing battle. So there is land and facing battle. So there is land and facing battle. So there is reason to be afraid. But then what does reason to be afraid. But then what does reason to be afraid. But then what does he do? He doesn't say cuz Joshua, man, he do? He doesn't say cuz Joshua, man, he do? He doesn't say cuz Joshua, man, you're good enough and you're strong you're good enough and you're strong you're good enough and you're strong enough and gosh darn you can do it. No, enough and gosh darn you can do it. No, enough and gosh darn you can do it. No, he says, "For I am with you." He puts he says, "For I am with you." He puts he says, "For I am with you." He puts his eyes on the facts. That's right. his eyes on the facts. That's right. his eyes on the facts. That's right. >> And then there's faith. There's the >> And then there's faith. There's the >> And then there's faith. There's the question of am I going to put my faith question of am I going to put my faith question of am I going to put my faith and believe the facts and trust the and believe the facts and trust the and believe the facts and trust the facts. And then feelings are supposed to facts. And then feelings are supposed to facts. And then feelings are supposed to be the caboose that come along because be the caboose that come along because be the caboose that come along because you've said earlier, fear is just a you've said earlier, fear is just a you've said earlier, fear is just a feeling. And peace, by the way, is just feeling. And peace, by the way, is just feeling. And peace, by the way, is just a feeling, man. Are they good there in a feeling, man. Are they good there in a feeling, man. Are they good there in terms of the peace? Yeah. Is it bad if terms of the peace? Yeah. Is it bad if terms of the peace? Yeah. Is it bad if the fear is there? Yeah. But yes, but the fear is there? Yeah. But yes, but the fear is there? Yeah. But yes, but that's the caboose. And the the decision that's the caboose. And the the decision that's the caboose. And the the decision you're gonna have to make is is, hey, you're gonna have to make is is, hey, you're gonna have to make is is, hey, when you're facing fear or any kind of when you're facing fear or any kind of when you're facing fear or any kind of emotion or lack thereof, am I going to emotion or lack thereof, am I going to emotion or lack thereof, am I going to put my faith in my feelings or am I put my faith in my feelings or am I put my faith in my feelings or am I gonna put my faith in my facts or in the gonna put my faith in my facts or in the gonna put my faith in my facts or in the facts? So, you got to get them in the facts? So, you got to get them in the facts? So, you got to get them in the right order. And then guess what? When right order. And then guess what? When right order. And then guess what? When you put your faith in the facts, your you put your faith in the facts, your you put your faith in the facts, your emotions will eventually catch up and to emotions will eventually catch up and to emotions will eventually catch up and to fall into place. But they got to be the fall into place. But they got to be the fall into place. But they got to be the caboose of your life, not the engine of caboose of your life, not the engine of caboose of your life, not the engine of your life. That's great. Yes. You said, your life. That's great. Yes. You said, your life. That's great. Yes. You said, So, you said facts, faith, and feeling.

So, you said facts, faith, and feeling. So, you said facts, faith, and feeling. Exactly. So, I guess it is true. Facts Exactly. So, I guess it is true. Facts Exactly. So, I guess it is true. Facts don't care about your feelings. don't care about your feelings. don't care about your feelings. >> It actually is. Yeah. >> It actually is. Yeah. >> It actually is. Yeah. >> All right. >> All right. >> All right. >> Let me We're going to do a the Let's >> Let me We're going to do a the Let's >> Let me We're going to do a the Let's Well, I want to get to the theology of Well, I want to get to the theology of Well, I want to get to the theology of what I think this verse means what I think this verse means what I think this verse means >> because there's there's like layers to >> because there's there's like layers to >> because there's there's like layers to this thing. And then Paul, what I want this thing. And then Paul, what I want this thing. And then Paul, what I want you to do here in a second, um you to do here in a second, um you to do here in a second, um >> there's two things I want you to talk >> there's two things I want you to talk >> there's two things I want you to talk about because this is going to dovtail about because this is going to dovtail about because this is going to dovtail into two concepts. Uh they're a little into two concepts. Uh they're a little into two concepts. Uh they're a little Bible nerd geeky. Uh uh it's theologians Bible nerd geeky. Uh uh it's theologians Bible nerd geeky. Uh uh it's theologians call it continuity and discontinuity call it continuity and discontinuity call it continuity and discontinuity between the old covenant and the new between the old covenant and the new between the old covenant and the new covenant. Another way to say that is uh covenant. Another way to say that is uh covenant. Another way to say that is uh the the rural dumb Kentucky kid way to the the rural dumb Kentucky kid way to the the rural dumb Kentucky kid way to say it is what's the difference between say it is what's the difference between say it is what's the difference between New Testament and the Old Testament. New Testament and the Old Testament. New Testament and the Old Testament. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> It's like that's how I would say it. But >> It's like that's how I would say it. But >> It's like that's how I would say it. But Old Covenant, New Covenant, Old Covenant, New Covenant, Old Covenant, New Covenant, discontinuity and continuity because discontinuity and continuity because discontinuity and continuity because that's going to relate to what I'm that's going to relate to what I'm that's going to relate to what I'm talking about here in a second. talking about here in a second. talking about here in a second. >> And then just to be honest with uh >> And then just to be honest with uh >> And then just to be honest with uh people who are listening, there are people who are listening, there are people who are listening, there are we're going to talk about um uh some we're going to talk about um uh some we're going to talk about um uh some people call it baptism of the Holy people call it baptism of the Holy people call it baptism of the Holy Spirit. Some people call it filling with Spirit. Some people call it filling with Spirit. Some people call it filling with the Holy Spirit. Some people say one the Holy Spirit. Some people say one the Holy Spirit. Some people say one baptism many fillings. I what I don't I baptism many fillings. I what I don't I baptism many fillings. I what I don't I don't care what you say, but there are don't care what you say, but there are don't care what you say, but there are different views on this. And I want you different views on this. And I want you different views on this. And I want you to talk about what those views are, to talk about what those views are, to talk about what those views are, where some of the denominations fall and where some of the denominations fall and where some of the denominations fall and some of that kind of stuff.

some of that kind of stuff. some of that kind of stuff. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um, what do you want me to do? Do you >> Um, what do you want me to do? Do you >> Um, what do you want me to do? Do you want me to kind of talk about give my want me to kind of talk about give my want me to kind of talk about give my theory on what this means? And then we theory on what this means? And then we theory on what this means? And then we do. Okay. You got do. Okay. You got do. Okay. You got >> I'm I've been talking for a long time, >> I'm I've been talking for a long time, >> I'm I've been talking for a long time, man. Great. man. Great. man. Great. >> All right. Let's keep going. All right. >> All right. Let's keep going. All right. >> All right. Let's keep going. All right. >> Well, hey, Lififor Nation. If you're >> Well, hey, Lififor Nation. If you're >> Well, hey, Lififor Nation. If you're ready to go deeper in your faith and ready to go deeper in your faith and ready to go deeper in your faith and build strong biblical community, Rooted build strong biblical community, Rooted build strong biblical community, Rooted is your next step. Rooted is our 10-week is your next step. Rooted is our 10-week is your next step. Rooted is our 10-week disciplehip experience designed to help disciplehip experience designed to help disciplehip experience designed to help you grow in your relationship with God, you grow in your relationship with God, you grow in your relationship with God, understand your purpose, and build understand your purpose, and build understand your purpose, and build meaningful relationships with other meaningful relationships with other meaningful relationships with other believers. And so, here's something that believers. And so, here's something that believers. And so, here's something that you need to know. Rooted is a in-person you need to know. Rooted is a in-person you need to know. Rooted is a in-person experience only. It's not available experience only. It's not available experience only. It's not available online because so much of what makes online because so much of what makes online because so much of what makes Rooted powerful happens when you're Rooted powerful happens when you're Rooted powerful happens when you're sitting around a table having sitting around a table having sitting around a table having conversations, praying together, and conversations, praying together, and conversations, praying together, and growing alongside others. So, if you growing alongside others. So, if you growing alongside others. So, if you live in the DFW area, Dallas Fort Worth live in the DFW area, Dallas Fort Worth live in the DFW area, Dallas Fort Worth area, we'd love for you to come be a area, we'd love for you to come be a area, we'd love for you to come be a part of our rooted experience at one of part of our rooted experience at one of part of our rooted experience at one of our Lake Point campuses. And so, if you our Lake Point campuses. And so, if you our Lake Point campuses. And so, if you are ready to take that next step, just are ready to take that next step, just are ready to take that next step, just text the word rooted to 201411 text the word rooted to 201411 text the word rooted to 201411 to learn more and get connected. And to learn more and get connected. And to learn more and get connected. And now, let's go back to the podcast.

now, let's go back to the podcast. now, let's go back to the podcast. >> So, here's the debate in verse six and >> So, here's the debate in verse six and >> So, here's the debate in verse six and seven. And I didn't have time to get seven. And I didn't have time to get seven. And I didn't have time to get into this in sermon. This is literally I into this in sermon. This is literally I into this in sermon. This is literally I almost made the whole sermon this. I'll almost made the whole sermon this. I'll almost made the whole sermon this. I'll just be honest. I decided on t Tuesday just be honest. I decided on t Tuesday just be honest. I decided on t Tuesday not to. So Paul again says, "For this not to. So Paul again says, "For this not to. So Paul again says, "For this reason, I remind you to fan into flame reason, I remind you to fan into flame reason, I remind you to fan into flame the gift of God." Here's the question the gift of God." Here's the question the gift of God." Here's the question theologians, Bible scholars ask. What theologians, Bible scholars ask. What theologians, Bible scholars ask. What gift of God is he talking about? gift of God is he talking about? gift of God is he talking about? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Is he There's a few theories here. Is he >> Is he There's a few theories here. Is he >> Is he There's a few theories here. Is he talking about the big G gift of the Holy talking about the big G gift of the Holy talking about the big G gift of the Holy Spirit? Spirit? Spirit? >> Or is he talking about the little a >> Or is he talking about the little a >> Or is he talking about the little a little G specific gift of the Holy little G specific gift of the Holy little G specific gift of the Holy Spirit, preaching or prophesying? or is Spirit, preaching or prophesying? or is Spirit, preaching or prophesying? or is he talking about um Timothy's he talking about um Timothy's he talking about um Timothy's commissioning as the pastor? So like the commissioning as the pastor? So like the commissioning as the pastor? So like the moment when the elders placed their moment when the elders placed their moment when the elders placed their hands on him and commission as pastor, hands on him and commission as pastor, hands on him and commission as pastor, which one of those three is he talking which one of those three is he talking which one of those three is he talking about? And then it goes on to say this, about? And then it goes on to say this, about? And then it goes on to say this, which is in you through the laying on of which is in you through the laying on of which is in you through the laying on of my hands. my hands. my hands. >> For God gave us not a spirit of fear, >> For God gave us not a spirit of fear, >> For God gave us not a spirit of fear, but of power, love, and self-control. but of power, love, and self-control. but of power, love, and self-control. Now, I'm going to give uh I'm going to Now, I'm going to give uh I'm going to Now, I'm going to give uh I'm going to give I got four reasons. I actually give I got four reasons. I actually give I got four reasons. I actually think he's specifically talking about think he's specifically talking about think he's specifically talking about the uh the New Testament big G gift of the uh the New Testament big G gift of the uh the New Testament big G gift of being filled with the spirit. And just being filled with the spirit. And just being filled with the spirit. And just if you're if when I say this it kind of if you're if when I say this it kind of if you're if when I say this it kind of triggers you a little bit and you're triggers you a little bit and you're triggers you a little bit and you're like what? Just hang with me. I'll like what? Just hang with me. I'll like what? Just hang with me. I'll explain what I mean and what I don't explain what I mean and what I don't explain what I mean and what I don't mean.

mean. mean. >> And I'm talking about something that >> And I'm talking about something that >> And I'm talking about something that happens to you subsequent to your happens to you subsequent to your happens to you subsequent to your salvation. Yeah. salvation. Yeah. salvation. Yeah. >> Okay. So, let me explain why I think >> Okay. So, let me explain why I think >> Okay. So, let me explain why I think this. All right. Number one, he this. All right. Number one, he this. All right. Number one, he specifically says this came quote with specifically says this came quote with specifically says this came quote with the laying on of hands. Now there are the laying on of hands. Now there are the laying on of hands. Now there are multiple things the laying on of hands multiple things the laying on of hands multiple things the laying on of hands represent in the book of acts. Um uh represent in the book of acts. Um uh represent in the book of acts. Um uh Paul and Timothy are commissioned Paul and Timothy are commissioned Paul and Timothy are commissioned initially through the laying on of hands initially through the laying on of hands initially through the laying on of hands out of the church. Was it Antioch? Was out of the church. Was it Antioch? Was out of the church. Was it Antioch? Was it Antioch? it Antioch? it Antioch? >> Paul Barnabas >> Paul Barnabas >> Paul Barnabas uh uh the church of Antioch. uh uh the church of Antioch. uh uh the church of Antioch. >> Yeah. Laid in hands basically >> Yeah. Laid in hands basically >> Yeah. Laid in hands basically commissioned them as missionaries to go commissioned them as missionaries to go commissioned them as missionaries to go out. out. out. >> And that became the New Testament >> And that became the New Testament >> And that became the New Testament pattern for how you essentially ordained pattern for how you essentially ordained pattern for how you essentially ordained is the word that we use in the modern is the word that we use in the modern is the word that we use in the modern church. church. church. >> Uh recognized the Holy Spirit was >> Uh recognized the Holy Spirit was >> Uh recognized the Holy Spirit was setting somebody apart for an office in setting somebody apart for an office in setting somebody apart for an office in the church. By the way, to this day, if the church. By the way, to this day, if the church. By the way, to this day, if you go to an ordination service at a you go to an ordination service at a you go to an ordination service at a church, you're going to see the elders church, you're going to see the elders church, you're going to see the elders or a bunch of people lay their hands on or a bunch of people lay their hands on or a bunch of people lay their hands on somebody. They got that from the book of somebody. They got that from the book of somebody. They got that from the book of Acts. Yep. Acts. Yep. Acts. Yep. >> Okay. Now, but uh frequently in the book >> Okay. Now, but uh frequently in the book >> Okay. Now, but uh frequently in the book of Acts, the laying on of hands is of Acts, the laying on of hands is of Acts, the laying on of hands is something that is done to confer the big something that is done to confer the big something that is done to confer the big G gift of the filling with the Holy G gift of the filling with the Holy G gift of the filling with the Holy Spirit in somebody. I'll do these real Spirit in somebody. I'll do these real Spirit in somebody. I'll do these real quick. This happens in Acts 8. It says quick. This happens in Acts 8. It says quick. This happens in Acts 8. It says this, "Then they quote laid their hands this, "Then they quote laid their hands this, "Then they quote laid their hands on them and they received the Holy on them and they received the Holy on them and they received the Holy Spirit." This is whole Simon the Spirit." This is whole Simon the Spirit." This is whole Simon the sorcerer deal right there. When he saw sorcerer deal right there. When he saw sorcerer deal right there. When he saw that the spirit, quote, watch this, was that the spirit, quote, watch this, was that the spirit, quote, watch this, was given through the laying on of the given through the laying on of the given through the laying on of the apostles hands, then he offers him money apostles hands, then he offers him money apostles hands, then he offers him money and he tries to buy the gift. You're not and he tries to buy the gift. You're not and he tries to buy the gift. You're not allowed to do that.

allowed to do that. allowed to do that. >> Then this happens again in Acts 9. So >> Then this happens again in Acts 9. So >> Then this happens again in Acts 9. So Ananas departed and entered the house. Ananas departed and entered the house. Ananas departed and entered the house. This is when Paul is actually uh it's This is when Paul is actually uh it's This is when Paul is actually uh it's after Paul's salvation, I believe. after Paul's salvation, I believe. after Paul's salvation, I believe. >> This is when Paul is filled with the >> This is when Paul is filled with the >> This is when Paul is filled with the spirit. So Ananas entered the house spirit. So Ananas entered the house spirit. So Ananas entered the house where Paul is and quote laying his hands where Paul is and quote laying his hands where Paul is and quote laying his hands on him, he said, "Brother Saul, the Lord on him, he said, "Brother Saul, the Lord on him, he said, "Brother Saul, the Lord Jesus who appeared to you on the road by Jesus who appeared to you on the road by Jesus who appeared to you on the road by which you came has sent me to you so which you came has sent me to you so which you came has sent me to you so that you may regain your sight and be that you may regain your sight and be that you may regain your sight and be filled with the Holy Spirit." One more filled with the Holy Spirit." One more filled with the Holy Spirit." One more time, Acts 19:6, I'm coming back to this time, Acts 19:6, I'm coming back to this time, Acts 19:6, I'm coming back to this later in the pod. And when Paul had laid later in the pod. And when Paul had laid later in the pod. And when Paul had laid his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them. So number one, I'll do this on them. So number one, I'll do this on them. So number one, I'll do this quick. quick. quick. >> You got laying on of hands. Paul says >> You got laying on of hands. Paul says >> You got laying on of hands. Paul says that whatever this gift was came to you that whatever this gift was came to you that whatever this gift was came to you by the laying on of hands. Number two, by the laying on of hands. Number two, by the laying on of hands. Number two, he calls it a gift. I'll just point this he calls it a gift. I'll just point this he calls it a gift. I'll just point this out. When Jesus in Luke 11 is talking out. When Jesus in Luke 11 is talking out. When Jesus in Luke 11 is talking about the father giving the gift of the about the father giving the gift of the about the father giving the gift of the Holy Spirit to those who ask, he uses Holy Spirit to those who ask, he uses Holy Spirit to those who ask, he uses the language of the spirits coming on the language of the spirits coming on the language of the spirits coming on your life as a quote gift. I'm going to your life as a quote gift. I'm going to your life as a quote gift. I'm going to read it to you. This is Jesus. Which of read it to you. This is Jesus. Which of read it to you. This is Jesus. Which of you fathers, if your son asks for a you fathers, if your son asks for a you fathers, if your son asks for a fish, will give him a snake instead?

fish, will give him a snake instead? fish, will give him a snake instead? >> Or if he asks for an egg, we'll give him >> Or if he asks for an egg, we'll give him >> Or if he asks for an egg, we'll give him a scorpion. If you then, though you are a scorpion. If you then, though you are a scorpion. If you then, though you are evil, know how to give good evil, know how to give good evil, know how to give good >> gifts >> gifts >> gifts >> to your children, how much more will >> to your children, how much more will >> to your children, how much more will your father in heaven give the Holy your father in heaven give the Holy your father in heaven give the Holy Spirit. So the Holy Spirit is being Spirit. So the Holy Spirit is being Spirit. So the Holy Spirit is being mentioned as a gift. That's uh clue mentioned as a gift. That's uh clue mentioned as a gift. That's uh clue number two. Clue number three, he says number two. Clue number three, he says number two. Clue number three, he says to Timothy, fan into flame. to Timothy, fan into flame. to Timothy, fan into flame. >> Now, dude, I'll just It's hard for me to >> Now, dude, I'll just It's hard for me to >> Now, dude, I'll just It's hard for me to Now these context clues start stacking Now these context clues start stacking Now these context clues start stacking up, bro. Like it everywhere in the New up, bro. Like it everywhere in the New up, bro. Like it everywhere in the New Testament, fire and flame is the Testament, fire and flame is the Testament, fire and flame is the dominant visual representation of the dominant visual representation of the dominant visual representation of the spirit coming on somebody. spirit coming on somebody. spirit coming on somebody. >> In both Matthew 3 and Luke 3, John the >> In both Matthew 3 and Luke 3, John the >> In both Matthew 3 and Luke 3, John the Baptist says that Jesus will baptize you Baptist says that Jesus will baptize you Baptist says that Jesus will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with the Holy Spirit and with the Holy Spirit and >> fire. >> fire. >> fire. >> Okay. Acts 2, spirit falls in the >> Okay. Acts 2, spirit falls in the >> Okay. Acts 2, spirit falls in the apostles. He comes as quote divided apostles. He comes as quote divided apostles. He comes as quote divided tongues of fire. 1 Thessalonians 5:19, tongues of fire. 1 Thessalonians 5:19, tongues of fire. 1 Thessalonians 5:19, people miss this. It says, "Hey, do not people miss this. It says, "Hey, do not people miss this. It says, "Hey, do not quench the spirit." And the Greek word quench the spirit." And the Greek word quench the spirit." And the Greek word when it's talking about quench, when it's talking about quench, when it's talking about quench, >> that's literally the word that he uses >> that's literally the word that he uses >> that's literally the word that he uses that you would like use little spray to that you would like use little spray to that you would like use little spray to quench a fire. So, you got that. Now, quench a fire. So, you got that. Now, quench a fire. So, you got that. Now, >> you stack those up. I think you're >> you stack those up. I think you're >> you stack those up. I think you're already there. But then number four, already there. But then number four, already there. But then number four, I'll just point this out.

I'll just point this out. I'll just point this out. >> Um, uh, notice the flow of the verses. >> Um, uh, notice the flow of the verses. >> Um, uh, notice the flow of the verses. He goes, "Hey, you haven't been given He goes, "Hey, you haven't been given He goes, "Hey, you haven't been given this spirit. This not the spirit you this spirit. This not the spirit you this spirit. This not the spirit you got. Spirit of fear. got. Spirit of fear. got. Spirit of fear. >> You've been given this spirit. Power, >> You've been given this spirit. Power, >> You've been given this spirit. Power, love, self-control. Those are all things love, self-control. Those are all things love, self-control. Those are all things in the New Testament that are in the New Testament that are in the New Testament that are specifically associated with the specifically associated with the specifically associated with the spirit's presence in somebody's life. So spirit's presence in somebody's life. So spirit's presence in somebody's life. So I think the very obvious flow is, hey, I think the very obvious flow is, hey, I think the very obvious flow is, hey, not this spirit. You've been given that not this spirit. You've been given that not this spirit. You've been given that spirit. And really what I think he's spirit. And really what I think he's spirit. And really what I think he's doing is he's going back to the example doing is he's going back to the example doing is he's going back to the example of Peter. And I think he's going, hey, of Peter. And I think he's going, hey, of Peter. And I think he's going, hey, preholy spirit be pre uh Peter being preholy spirit be pre uh Peter being preholy spirit be pre uh Peter being filled with the Holy Spirit in Acts two, filled with the Holy Spirit in Acts two, filled with the Holy Spirit in Acts two, he's running away from little toddler he's running away from little toddler he's running away from little toddler girls. And then post filling of the Holy girls. And then post filling of the Holy girls. And then post filling of the Holy Spirit in Acts two. Yeah, Peter's Spirit in Acts two. Yeah, Peter's Spirit in Acts two. Yeah, Peter's standing in front, by the way, of the standing in front, by the way, of the standing in front, by the way, of the same people who crucified Jesus same people who crucified Jesus same people who crucified Jesus >> and he's just planting his feet saying >> and he's just planting his feet saying >> and he's just planting his feet saying with his chest, you killed Jesus. with his chest, you killed Jesus. with his chest, you killed Jesus. Judgment is coming. You need to repent Judgment is coming. You need to repent Judgment is coming. You need to repent and be baptized or there's going to be and be baptized or there's going to be and be baptized or there's going to be hell to pay. Like, that's literally what hell to pay. Like, that's literally what hell to pay. Like, that's literally what he's So, I think you stack those up. I he's So, I think you stack those up. I he's So, I think you stack those up. I bro, I don't I don't know how to see it bro, I don't I don't know how to see it bro, I don't I don't know how to see it any other way. I think Paul's any other way. I think Paul's any other way. I think Paul's specifically talking about uh Timothy's specifically talking about uh Timothy's specifically talking about uh Timothy's uh whatever phrase you want to use, uh whatever phrase you want to use, uh whatever phrase you want to use, spirit, baptism, filling the spirit.

spirit, baptism, filling the spirit. spirit, baptism, filling the spirit. Okay. Now, really quick before we go any Okay. Now, really quick before we go any Okay. Now, really quick before we go any further, Paul, can you real quick further, Paul, can you real quick further, Paul, can you real quick because um talk real quick uh about the because um talk real quick uh about the because um talk real quick uh about the different views? Do you want to do the different views? Do you want to do the different views? Do you want to do the different views here on different views here on different views here on >> baptism of the spirit, filling the >> baptism of the spirit, filling the >> baptism of the spirit, filling the spirit? Because I need to acknowledge spirit? Because I need to acknowledge spirit? Because I need to acknowledge there are different views on this that there are different views on this that there are different views on this that are kind of emotional for people. I'll are kind of emotional for people. I'll are kind of emotional for people. I'll just get that out there. I'll let you just get that out there. I'll let you just get that out there. I'll let you take it take it take it >> before I get to I will say some of the >> before I get to I will say some of the >> before I get to I will say some of the other views that we threw out because of other views that we threw out because of other views that we threw out because of like it could be Timothy's ministry. It like it could be Timothy's ministry. It like it could be Timothy's ministry. It could be the big gift of the Holy Spirit could be the big gift of the Holy Spirit could be the big gift of the Holy Spirit like himself. Um the hard thing is you like himself. Um the hard thing is you like himself. Um the hard thing is you can make a great argument for any of can make a great argument for any of can make a great argument for any of those and all the spiritual gifts of those and all the spiritual gifts of those and all the spiritual gifts of like there's great data for each of like there's great data for each of like there's great data for each of them. When we go into this, what I would them. When we go into this, what I would them. When we go into this, what I would say is is even if it were any of those say is is even if it were any of those say is is even if it were any of those other two, I think we would all agree other two, I think we would all agree other two, I think we would all agree that receiving fillings or a filling of that receiving fillings or a filling of that receiving fillings or a filling of the spirit would make those more the spirit would make those more the spirit would make those more effective. That if you're a spiritfilled effective. That if you're a spiritfilled effective. That if you're a spiritfilled person and it was his ministry, that's person and it was his ministry, that's person and it was his ministry, that's gonna make him more effective. You see gonna make him more effective. You see gonna make him more effective. You see that in Acts 4, by the way, where it that in Acts 4, by the way, where it that in Acts 4, by the way, where it says all the apostles were gathered says all the apostles were gathered says all the apostles were gathered together after Pentecost had already together after Pentecost had already together after Pentecost had already happened. The spirit fills them and then happened. The spirit fills them and then happened. The spirit fills them and then they go out and preach the word with they go out and preach the word with they go out and preach the word with boldness. It says, and they see a lot of boldness. It says, and they see a lot of boldness. It says, and they see a lot of fruit. So, what I'm saying is when we fruit. So, what I'm saying is when we fruit. So, what I'm saying is when we get to this in a second, I think even if get to this in a second, I think even if get to this in a second, I think even if it didn't happen, I mean, that I think it didn't happen, I mean, that I think it didn't happen, I mean, that I think we'd all agree that being filled with we'd all agree that being filled with we'd all agree that being filled with the spirit would make ministry or your the spirit would make ministry or your the spirit would make ministry or your spiritual gift more effective, right?

spiritual gift more effective, right? spiritual gift more effective, right? >> That makes sense. >> That makes sense. >> That makes sense. >> Very obviously. >> Very obviously. >> Very obviously. >> Okay. I'm just saying. So, that's right. >> Okay. I'm just saying. So, that's right. >> Okay. I'm just saying. So, that's right. Even if you disagree with your Even if you disagree with your Even if you disagree with your interpretation, we can still get to what interpretation, we can still get to what interpretation, we can still get to what we're about to say. So, yeah. So, spirit we're about to say. So, yeah. So, spirit we're about to say. So, yeah. So, spirit baptism. So, let me let me say a few baptism. So, let me let me say a few baptism. So, let me let me say a few things and then I've got three views. Uh things and then I've got three views. Uh things and then I've got three views. Uh there's actually like six or seven there's actually like six or seven there's actually like six or seven really minor views, but I tried to put really minor views, but I tried to put really minor views, but I tried to put them in three camps to make it simple. them in three camps to make it simple. them in three camps to make it simple. So if you hear this, that's not exactly So if you hear this, that's not exactly So if you hear this, that's not exactly what I believe. I'm sorry. I tried to what I believe. I'm sorry. I tried to what I believe. I'm sorry. I tried to get it as simple as I could, but this is get it as simple as I could, but this is get it as simple as I could, but this is a classic area, and you kind of already a classic area, and you kind of already a classic area, and you kind of already touched this a few places. Um where touched this a few places. Um where touched this a few places. Um where people can use different words for the people can use different words for the people can use different words for the same thing. same thing. same thing. >> Oh yes. >> Oh yes. >> Oh yes. >> Or they use the same word for different >> Or they use the same word for different >> Or they use the same word for different things. Yes. things. Yes. things. Yes. >> And so what ends up happening is we go >> And so what ends up happening is we go >> And so what ends up happening is we go back and forth and in circles argument. back and forth and in circles argument. back and forth and in circles argument. We may actually agree with each other on We may actually agree with each other on We may actually agree with each other on most stuff or we talk past each other. most stuff or we talk past each other. most stuff or we talk past each other. And so there's going to be a few places And so there's going to be a few places And so there's going to be a few places where I'm going to have to give some where I'm going to have to give some where I'm going to have to give some nuance of saying, "Hey, some people call nuance of saying, "Hey, some people call nuance of saying, "Hey, some people call it this, some people call it that." That it this, some people call it that." That it this, some people call it that." That being said, let me give you three big being said, let me give you three big being said, let me give you three big views. Hey, I got another charter table views. Hey, I got another charter table views. Hey, I got another charter table for you this week. I've got another one. for you this week. I've got another one. for you this week. I've got another one. >> The quality of this podcast just went up >> The quality of this podcast just went up >> The quality of this podcast just went up again. again. again. >> Oh my gosh. >> Oh my gosh. >> Oh my gosh. >> I've got another one for you. And again, >> I've got another one for you. And again, >> I've got another one for you. And again, this is something that we can include in this is something that we can include in this is something that we can include in our guide that people can get so they our guide that people can get so they our guide that people can get so they can look at this later. So, three views.

can look at this later. So, three views. can look at this later. So, three views. You've got what's called, and I'm going You've got what's called, and I'm going You've got what's called, and I'm going to name them and then I'll walk through to name them and then I'll walk through to name them and then I'll walk through them. Cessationist. Number two, them. Cessationist. Number two, them. Cessationist. Number two, classical Pentecostal. And number three, classical Pentecostal. And number three, classical Pentecostal. And number three, charismatic continuationist. Fancy fancy charismatic continuationist. Fancy fancy charismatic continuationist. Fancy fancy terms today. Cessationist. Here's what terms today. Cessationist. Here's what terms today. Cessationist. Here's what And by the way, all of these positions And by the way, all of these positions And by the way, all of these positions agree. This is what they all agree on. agree. This is what they all agree on. agree. This is what they all agree on. That the moment you're saved, you That the moment you're saved, you That the moment you're saved, you receive the Holy Spirit. receive the Holy Spirit. receive the Holy Spirit. >> Going to take a pair of scissors to get >> Going to take a pair of scissors to get >> Going to take a pair of scissors to get that out of the Bible. that out of the Bible. that out of the Bible. >> And by the way, it's a misconception >> And by the way, it's a misconception >> And by the way, it's a misconception that Pentecostals don't believe that. that Pentecostals don't believe that. that Pentecostals don't believe that. They say, "Oh, you don't believe that They say, "Oh, you don't believe that They say, "Oh, you don't believe that you fully have the Holy Spirit." They you fully have the Holy Spirit." They you fully have the Holy Spirit." They say, "No, you have the indwelling Holy say, "No, you have the indwelling Holy say, "No, you have the indwelling Holy Spirit." So, every one of these views Spirit." So, every one of these views Spirit." So, every one of these views agrees that at salvation, you have the agrees that at salvation, you have the agrees that at salvation, you have the Holy Spirit residing within you. Here's Holy Spirit residing within you. Here's Holy Spirit residing within you. Here's some places they disagree. A some places they disagree. A some places they disagree. A cessationist would say, "Every true cessationist would say, "Every true cessationist would say, "Every true believer is baptized in the spirit at believer is baptized in the spirit at believer is baptized in the spirit at conversion." So, spirit baptism happens conversion." So, spirit baptism happens conversion." So, spirit baptism happens at conversion. They would point to 1 at conversion. They would point to 1 at conversion. They would point to 1 Corinthians 12 where it says, "For just Corinthians 12 where it says, "For just Corinthians 12 where it says, "For just as the body is one and has many members as the body is one and has many members as the body is one and has many members and all the members of the body, though and all the members of the body, though and all the members of the body, though we are of one body, so it is with we are of one body, so it is with we are of one body, so it is with Christ. For in one spirit we were all Christ. For in one spirit we were all Christ. For in one spirit we were all baptized into one body, referring to the baptized into one body, referring to the baptized into one body, referring to the church, and we were all made to drink of church, and we were all made to drink of church, and we were all made to drink of one spirit. And so they would say spirit one spirit. And so they would say spirit one spirit. And so they would say spirit baptism happens at conversion. And there baptism happens at conversion. And there baptism happens at conversion. And there is no later second stage experience is no later second stage experience is no later second stage experience whatsoever. If you ask them, hey, what whatsoever. If you ask them, hey, what whatsoever. If you ask them, hey, what does it mean to be filled with the does it mean to be filled with the does it mean to be filled with the spirit? They're like, oh, that just is spirit? They're like, oh, that just is spirit? They're like, oh, that just is really about growing in intimacy with really about growing in intimacy with really about growing in intimacy with God through worship and obedience, but God through worship and obedience, but God through worship and obedience, but not necessarily an experience. And they not necessarily an experience. And they not necessarily an experience. And they would say that speaking in tongues is a would say that speaking in tongues is a would say that speaking in tongues is a gift that is no longer available today.

gift that is no longer available today. gift that is no longer available today. So if you're wondering why do they call So if you're wondering why do they call So if you're wondering why do they call him cessationist that word simply means him cessationist that word simply means him cessationist that word simply means ceased. That that gift has ceased today. ceased. That that gift has ceased today. ceased. That that gift has ceased today. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. >> And frequently what this the primarily >> And frequently what this the primarily >> And frequently what this the primarily the cessationist view will be is that the cessationist view will be is that the cessationist view will be is that quote unquote speaking in tongues or the quote unquote speaking in tongues or the quote unquote speaking in tongues or the Greek word is glossoleia. Greek word is glossoleia. Greek word is glossoleia. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> They they'll kind of go like hey man >> They they'll kind of go like hey man >> They they'll kind of go like hey man that really only referred to other that really only referred to other that really only referred to other languages like missionaries speaking in languages like missionaries speaking in languages like missionaries speaking in other languages. Now the problem this other languages. Now the problem this other languages. Now the problem this isn't what this podcast is about. Your isn't what this podcast is about. Your isn't what this podcast is about. Your problem with that is 1 Corinthians 14 problem with that is 1 Corinthians 14 problem with that is 1 Corinthians 14 but that's a different conversation. but that's a different conversation. but that's a different conversation. >> It's a really really big issue. So >> It's a really really big issue. So >> It's a really really big issue. So again, so sum up their view, they would again, so sum up their view, they would again, so sum up their view, they would say every true believer is baptized in say every true believer is baptized in say every true believer is baptized in the spirit at conversion. There's no the spirit at conversion. There's no the spirit at conversion. There's no later experience that you have and later experience that you have and later experience that you have and speaking in tongues is no longer speaking in tongues is no longer speaking in tongues is no longer available. Now the opposite of this available. Now the opposite of this available. Now the opposite of this would be a classical Pentecostal view. would be a classical Pentecostal view. would be a classical Pentecostal view. That's view number two. They would say That's view number two. They would say That's view number two. They would say every believer receives the spirit of every believer receives the spirit of every believer receives the spirit of conversion, but spirit baptism is a conversion, but spirit baptism is a conversion, but spirit baptism is a distinct subsequent experience that distinct subsequent experience that distinct subsequent experience that happens later and it is accompanied by happens later and it is accompanied by happens later and it is accompanied by speaking in tonesues. That is the sign speaking in tonesues. That is the sign speaking in tonesues. That is the sign that you've been baptized in the spirit that you've been baptized in the spirit that you've been baptized in the spirit is that you have spoken or have spoken is that you have spoken or have spoken is that you have spoken or have spoken in tonesues. That's the prim. Is that in tonesues. That's the prim. Is that in tonesues. That's the prim. Is that the Assemblies of God view? the Assemblies of God view? the Assemblies of God view? >> Yeah, that would be like an Assemblies >> Yeah, that would be like an Assemblies >> Yeah, that would be like an Assemblies of God like again more of a what's a of God like again more of a what's a of God like again more of a what's a classical Pentecostal view, but I want classical Pentecostal view, but I want classical Pentecostal view, but I want to I want to differentiate something to I want to differentiate something to I want to differentiate something here.

here. here. >> A lot of times people will say >> A lot of times people will say >> A lot of times people will say Pentecostal and charismatic and think Pentecostal and charismatic and think Pentecostal and charismatic and think they're the same thing. they're the same thing. they're the same thing. >> They're not the same thing. >> They're not the same thing. >> They're not the same thing. >> They're not the same thing. That's the >> They're not the same thing. That's the >> They're not the same thing. That's the key for when we get to point number key for when we get to point number key for when we get to point number three. Pentecostals would say no like three. Pentecostals would say no like three. Pentecostals would say no like speaking in tongues is the sign that you speaking in tongues is the sign that you speaking in tongues is the sign that you have received the baptism of the spirit. have received the baptism of the spirit. have received the baptism of the spirit. A charismatic would not necessarily say A charismatic would not necessarily say A charismatic would not necessarily say that. That's right. So the re the that. That's right. So the re the that. That's right. So the re the argument they have is this is Jesus argument they have is this is Jesus argument they have is this is Jesus promised to the apostles that they would promised to the apostles that they would promised to the apostles that they would receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit. receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit. receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit. But he said that to them after they were But he said that to them after they were But he said that to them after they were already believers and had the Holy already believers and had the Holy already believers and had the Holy Spirit. Yes. Spirit. Yes. Spirit. Yes. >> That's their argument. They would say >> That's their argument. They would say >> That's their argument. They would say they already believed. They had been they already believed. They had been they already believed. They had been born again. They had the Holy Spirit. born again. They had the Holy Spirit. born again. They had the Holy Spirit. And then he said they would be baptized And then he said they would be baptized And then he said they would be baptized and that's what happened. Also they and that's what happened. Also they and that's what happened. Also they would point to other places like you would point to other places like you would point to other places like you talked about that you gave references to talked about that you gave references to talked about that you gave references to which is hey these other people like in which is hey these other people like in which is hey these other people like in Acts 8 and Paul had already had already Acts 8 and Paul had already had already Acts 8 and Paul had already had already believed but then they received the Holy believed but then they received the Holy believed but then they received the Holy Spirit afterwards. They'd say, "Hey, Spirit afterwards. They'd say, "Hey, Spirit afterwards. They'd say, "Hey, there's other places in Acts where this there's other places in Acts where this there's other places in Acts where this seems to happen." You want to list some seems to happen." You want to list some seems to happen." You want to list some others or this the big ones that you're others or this the big ones that you're others or this the big ones that you're going to give? going to give? going to give? >> I'll wait a second. >> I'll wait a second. >> I'll wait a second. >> Okay. Okay. Um Okay. So again, and then >> Okay. Okay. Um Okay. So again, and then >> Okay. Okay. Um Okay. So again, and then but they would say is that, hey, but they would say is that, hey, but they would say is that, hey, speaking in tongues and companies, it speaking in tongues and companies, it speaking in tongues and companies, it happened at Acts at Pentecost. It happened at Acts at Pentecost. It happened at Acts at Pentecost. It happens other places where people had happens other places where people had happens other places where people had already believed and then they spoke in already believed and then they spoke in already believed and then they spoke in tongues. That this is the ordinary sign.

tongues. That this is the ordinary sign. tongues. That this is the ordinary sign. Then you have a third view that this is Then you have a third view that this is Then you have a third view that this is almost kind of I hate to call it a almost kind of I hate to call it a almost kind of I hate to call it a middle ground, but kind of a mediating middle ground, but kind of a mediating middle ground, but kind of a mediating view between those two. And it is this. view between those two. And it is this. view between those two. And it is this. So charismatic continuations would say So charismatic continuations would say So charismatic continuations would say every true believer receives a spirit every true believer receives a spirit every true believer receives a spirit conversion yet they can also receive conversion yet they can also receive conversion yet they can also receive later feelings that don't have to be later feelings that don't have to be later feelings that don't have to be accompanied by speaking in tonesues. So accompanied by speaking in tonesues. So accompanied by speaking in tonesues. So say hey you can have later experiences. say hey you can have later experiences. say hey you can have later experiences. The difference with a Pentecostal would The difference with a Pentecostal would The difference with a Pentecostal would be they say you don't have to speak in be they say you don't have to speak in be they say you don't have to speak in tonesues in order that to be legitimate. tonesues in order that to be legitimate. tonesues in order that to be legitimate. Um here's a thing with them that I would Um here's a thing with them that I would Um here's a thing with them that I would say is some charismatic continuationists say is some charismatic continuationists say is some charismatic continuationists would use baptism only to refer to would use baptism only to refer to would use baptism only to refer to conversion. Others would use it for the conversion. Others would use it for the conversion. Others would use it for the second feeling that usually is really second feeling that usually is really second feeling that usually is really powerful and they would say you've been powerful and they would say you've been powerful and they would say you've been baptized. I'm a person I I personally baptized. I'm a person I I personally baptized. I'm a person I I personally only use baptism typically for only use baptism typically for only use baptism typically for salvation. I don't quibble with words salvation. I don't quibble with words salvation. I don't quibble with words over it because usually when people use over it because usually when people use over it because usually when people use that language, they mean the same thing that language, they mean the same thing that language, they mean the same thing I mean. It's a good example. We're using I mean. It's a good example. We're using I mean. It's a good example. We're using different terms, but we mean the same different terms, but we mean the same different terms, but we mean the same thing. All right. Anything you want me thing. All right. Anything you want me thing. All right. Anything you want me to double click on or hit or respond to to double click on or hit or respond to to double click on or hit or respond to on any of these? You think that's pretty on any of these? You think that's pretty on any of these? You think that's pretty good? good? good? >> So, let me get this. So the classic >> So, let me get this. So the classic >> So, let me get this. So the classic Pentecostal view like for instance Pentecostal view like for instance Pentecostal view like for instance assemblies of God I think in the assemblies of God I think in the assemblies of God I think in the official doctrine of the of the official doctrine of the of the official doctrine of the of the assemblies of God it's um it talks about assemblies of God it's um it talks about assemblies of God it's um it talks about speaking in tongues is quote the initial speaking in tongues is quote the initial speaking in tongues is quote the initial physical evidence of being baptized with physical evidence of being baptized with physical evidence of being baptized with the Holy Spirit. Isn't that right? It the Holy Spirit. Isn't that right? It the Holy Spirit. Isn't that right? It says something like that.

says something like that. says something like that. >> So basically every single time there is >> So basically every single time there is >> So basically every single time there is never a case in which you are filled never a case in which you are filled never a case in which you are filled with the spirit and do not speak with with the spirit and do not speak with with the spirit and do not speak with speak in tonesues in general. speak in tonesues in general. speak in tonesues in general. >> Yeah. If you've been baptized in spirit >> Yeah. If you've been baptized in spirit >> Yeah. If you've been baptized in spirit in spirit. Okay. Yeah. Uh uh hang on. in spirit. Okay. Yeah. Uh uh hang on. in spirit. Okay. Yeah. Uh uh hang on. >> And I didn't respond to these but I can >> And I didn't respond to these but I can >> And I didn't respond to these but I can I can give you examples of where we I can give you examples of where we I can give you examples of where we disagree with some of these views. But I disagree with some of these views. But I disagree with some of these views. But I didn't really lay out where we would didn't really lay out where we would didn't really lay out where we would land on it yet. I don't know if you want land on it yet. I don't know if you want land on it yet. I don't know if you want to go there or say, "Hey, here's what we to go there or say, "Hey, here's what we to go there or say, "Hey, here's what we disagree." disagree." disagree." >> I think we're in the same place. I think >> I think we're in the same place. I think >> I think we're in the same place. I think we're in the same place. Where you we're in the same place. Where you we're in the same place. Where you going? going? going? >> I'm a number three for sure. >> I'm a number three for sure. >> I'm a number three for sure. >> No, number three is where I'm at. I'm >> No, number three is where I'm at. I'm >> No, number three is where I'm at. I'm sure number three, Carlos. sure number three, Carlos. sure number three, Carlos. >> Number three. >> Number three. >> Number three. >> Do you want me to respond to why we >> Do you want me to respond to why we >> Do you want me to respond to why we would disagree with Pentecostals with would disagree with Pentecostals with would disagree with Pentecostals with the idea because we would agree with the idea because we would agree with the idea because we would agree with them that you can receive. We would use them that you can receive. We would use them that you can receive. We would use probably use the word feelings, but probably use the word feelings, but probably use the word feelings, but again, you and I are the same. Hey, some again, you and I are the same. Hey, some again, you and I are the same. Hey, some people call them baptisms. Some people people call them baptisms. Some people people call them baptisms. Some people have feelings. We mean the same thing. have feelings. We mean the same thing. have feelings. We mean the same thing. >> Number three, I would just disagree with >> Number three, I would just disagree with >> Number three, I would just disagree with Paul on the he would say baptism Paul on the he would say baptism Paul on the he would say baptism language for conversion only. Yeah, language for conversion only. Yeah, language for conversion only. Yeah, >> I would be the guy who' say uh the the >> I would be the guy who' say uh the the >> I would be the guy who' say uh the the second part of that charge it says other second part of that charge it says other second part of that charge it says other calls the first filling of the spirit calls the first filling of the spirit calls the first filling of the spirit after conversion and baptism of the after conversion and baptism of the after conversion and baptism of the spirit. That's kind of where I would spirit. That's kind of where I would spirit. That's kind of where I would >> we all got to be wrong somewhere. >> we all got to be wrong somewhere. >> we all got to be wrong somewhere. >> That's great. >> That's great. >> That's great. >> I'm just playing and I can if you want >> I'm just playing and I can if you want >> I'm just playing and I can if you want to I can explain why I don't use that to I can explain why I don't use that to I can explain why I don't use that term but it's not the biggest thing. Now term but it's not the biggest thing. Now term but it's not the biggest thing. Now here's why we would um lovingly disagree here's why we would um lovingly disagree here's why we would um lovingly disagree with our Pentecostal brothers and with our Pentecostal brothers and with our Pentecostal brothers and sisters that speaking in tongues does sisters that speaking in tongues does sisters that speaking in tongues does not have to happen. And it really all is not have to happen. And it really all is not have to happen. And it really all is found I could go to a bunch of places found I could go to a bunch of places found I could go to a bunch of places but to me 1 Corinthians 12 is the big but to me 1 Corinthians 12 is the big but to me 1 Corinthians 12 is the big thing. First off, it says that we all thing. First off, it says that we all thing. First off, it says that we all So, here he is assuming that all of them So, here he is assuming that all of them So, here he is assuming that all of them have been baptized. Every single person have been baptized. Every single person have been baptized. Every single person he's talking to, this, by the way, is he's talking to, this, by the way, is he's talking to, this, by the way, is why I do only use it for salvation why I do only use it for salvation why I do only use it for salvation because if you're baptized into the body because if you're baptized into the body because if you're baptized into the body of Christ, I think that could only of Christ, I think that could only of Christ, I think that could only happen at your salvation. But here's a happen at your salvation. But here's a happen at your salvation. But here's a big thing at the end. Paul's going to big thing at the end. Paul's going to big thing at the end. Paul's going to ask some rhetorical questions and he's ask some rhetorical questions and he's ask some rhetorical questions and he's basically he's saying, "Hey, everybody

basically he's saying, "Hey, everybody basically he's saying, "Hey, everybody has different gifts and assignments, but has different gifts and assignments, but has different gifts and assignments, but man, we all matter in the body of Christ man, we all matter in the body of Christ man, we all matter in the body of Christ as we serve this common good." He's as we serve this common good." He's as we serve this common good." He's going to ask some questions starting in going to ask some questions starting in going to ask some questions starting in verse 29. Are all apostles? What do you verse 29. Are all apostles? What do you verse 29. Are all apostles? What do you think his assumption they're going to think his assumption they're going to think his assumption they're going to answer? is clearly no. answer? is clearly no. answer? is clearly no. >> No. Are all prophets? >> No. Are all prophets? >> No. Are all prophets? >> No. >> No. >> No. >> Are all teachers? >> Are all teachers? >> Are all teachers? >> No. >> No. >> No. >> Do all work miracles? >> Do all work miracles? >> Do all work miracles? >> No. >> No. >> No. >> Do all possess gifts of healing? >> Do all possess gifts of healing? >> Do all possess gifts of healing? >> No. >> No. >> No. >> Do all speak with tongues? >> Do all speak with tongues? >> Do all speak with tongues? >> No. That the implication is clearly no. >> No. That the implication is clearly no. >> No. That the implication is clearly no. >> Yeah. Every if every rhetorical question >> Yeah. Every if every rhetorical question >> Yeah. Every if every rhetorical question to this point has been the answer is to this point has been the answer is to this point has been the answer is expected to be no. It's hard to believe expected to be no. It's hard to believe expected to be no. It's hard to believe that all of a sudden speaking in that all of a sudden speaking in that all of a sudden speaking in tongues, the answer is yes. Of course, tongues, the answer is yes. Of course, tongues, the answer is yes. Of course, because you've been filled with the because you've been filled with the because you've been filled with the spirit and you've been baptized. No. So spirit and you've been baptized. No. So spirit and you've been baptized. No. So we would lovingly disagree with we would lovingly disagree with we would lovingly disagree with Pentecostals to say, "Hey, we do believe Pentecostals to say, "Hey, we do believe Pentecostals to say, "Hey, we do believe in subsequent fillings of the spirit in subsequent fillings of the spirit in subsequent fillings of the spirit that are powerful and necessary for more that are powerful and necessary for more that are powerful and necessary for more effective ministry and life effective ministry and life effective ministry and life transformation, but speaking in tongues transformation, but speaking in tongues transformation, but speaking in tongues does not have to accompany that." does not have to accompany that." does not have to accompany that." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Was your like Carlos down in growing up >> Was your like Carlos down in growing up >> Was your like Carlos down in growing up in South America? Was was uh was in South America? Was was uh was in South America? Was was uh was charismatic continuationist or classic charismatic continuationist or classic charismatic continuationist or classic Pentecostal the more dominant Pentecostal the more dominant Pentecostal the more dominant >> viewer experience down there? >> viewer experience down there? >> viewer experience down there? >> I grew up in a Assemblies of God for >> I grew up in a Assemblies of God for >> I grew up in a Assemblies of God for sure. Number two classic Pentecostal. sure. Number two classic Pentecostal. sure. Number two classic Pentecostal. Okay. Yeah. So I mean it was a high high Okay. Yeah. So I mean it was a high high Okay. Yeah. So I mean it was a high high emphasis on praying towards asking God emphasis on praying towards asking God emphasis on praying towards asking God to give everybody the gift of tongues.

to give everybody the gift of tongues. to give everybody the gift of tongues. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Now let's get uh like let's go one one >> Now let's get uh like let's go one one >> Now let's get uh like let's go one one layer deeper. Get get a little more layer deeper. Get get a little more layer deeper. Get get a little more nerdy. So the reason this is a big deal nerdy. So the reason this is a big deal nerdy. So the reason this is a big deal is theologians will talk about and this is theologians will talk about and this is theologians will talk about and this is where I want to click on real quick is where I want to click on real quick is where I want to click on real quick and I I want to talk about this and and I I want to talk about this and and I I want to talk about this and honestly man I just want to tell a honestly man I just want to tell a honestly man I just want to tell a couple stories. Mhm. couple stories. Mhm. couple stories. Mhm. >> Um >> Um >> Um >> uh this right here is theologians talk >> uh this right here is theologians talk >> uh this right here is theologians talk about um old covenant, new covenant about um old covenant, new covenant about um old covenant, new covenant continuity and discontinuity. In other continuity and discontinuity. In other continuity and discontinuity. In other words, if you were one of the people of words, if you were one of the people of words, if you were one of the people of God, covenantal people of God in the old God, covenantal people of God in the old God, covenantal people of God in the old covenant, what is different about your covenant, what is different about your covenant, what is different about your experience with God as a new covenant uh experience with God as a new covenant uh experience with God as a new covenant uh pe people of God versus the old pe people of God versus the old pe people of God versus the old covenant? So this gets into old covenant? So this gets into old covenant? So this gets into old covenant, new covenant. There are things covenant, new covenant. There are things covenant, new covenant. There are things that possess continuity. that possess continuity. that possess continuity. >> Yep. And there are aspects of the two >> Yep. And there are aspects of the two >> Yep. And there are aspects of the two covenants that possess discontinuity. covenants that possess discontinuity. covenants that possess discontinuity. And a lot of times that's where I think And a lot of times that's where I think And a lot of times that's where I think people get a little confused and that people get a little confused and that people get a little confused and that specifically comes to bear on our specifically comes to bear on our specifically comes to bear on our theology of the spirit. So you do do theology of the spirit. So you do do theology of the spirit. So you do do your little thing. your little thing. your little thing. >> Oh no. This is I mean number one there's >> Oh no. This is I mean number one there's >> Oh no. This is I mean number one there's a lot of places of continuity a lot of places of continuity a lot of places of continuity discontinuity. I actually in prepping discontinuity. I actually in prepping discontinuity. I actually in prepping for this I looked up trying to see if I for this I looked up trying to see if I for this I looked up trying to see if I could find an image and a guy listed could find an image and a guy listed could find an image and a guy listed like 25 things and I'm like we ain't like 25 things and I'm like we ain't like 25 things and I'm like we ain't ain't nobody got time for that. So so we ain't nobody got time for that. So so we ain't nobody got time for that. So so we ain't doing that. So I'll list a few ain't doing that. So I'll list a few ain't doing that. So I'll list a few things of continuity things that are things of continuity things that are things of continuity things that are still the same. Man, there is one God still the same. Man, there is one God still the same. Man, there is one God and there's one story of salvation that and there's one story of salvation that and there's one story of salvation that he is writing. That's a continuous thing he is writing. That's a continuous thing he is writing. That's a continuous thing from Old Testament to New Testament.

from Old Testament to New Testament. from Old Testament to New Testament. This one actually surprised people in This one actually surprised people in This one actually surprised people in both the Old Testament, New Testament, both the Old Testament, New Testament, both the Old Testament, New Testament, people are saved by grace through faith. people are saved by grace through faith. people are saved by grace through faith. >> Yes. Uh specifically the New Testament >> Yes. Uh specifically the New Testament >> Yes. Uh specifically the New Testament says through faith in Christ. says through faith in Christ. says through faith in Christ. >> Yeah. So like just for listeners to be >> Yeah. So like just for listeners to be >> Yeah. So like just for listeners to be really clear, old people under the old really clear, old people under the old really clear, old people under the old covenant covenant covenant >> were saved by faith in Jesus Christ >> were saved by faith in Jesus Christ >> were saved by faith in Jesus Christ according to this book of Galatians, according to this book of Galatians, according to this book of Galatians, right? right? right? >> Galatians. Yep. before they knew it. But >> Galatians. Yep. before they knew it. But >> Galatians. Yep. before they knew it. But so like because there's sometimes this so like because there's sometimes this so like because there's sometimes this conception of oh in the Old Testament conception of oh in the Old Testament conception of oh in the Old Testament you just had to be a really good person. you just had to be a really good person. you just had to be a really good person. In the New Testament is all by grace. In the New Testament is all by grace. In the New Testament is all by grace. >> You can pull up that verse. >> You can pull up that verse. >> You can pull up that verse. >> Yeah, I think maybe Galatians 3 or four. >> Yeah, I think maybe Galatians 3 or four. >> Yeah, I think maybe Galatians 3 or four. >> Galatians 3 is what I think. >> Galatians 3 is what I think. >> Galatians 3 is what I think. >> Um and so yeah, so it's just no people >> Um and so yeah, so it's just no people >> Um and so yeah, so it's just no people are saved by grace through faith. Now are saved by grace through faith. Now are saved by grace through faith. Now their faith is demonstrated in different their faith is demonstrated in different their faith is demonstrated in different in different ways in the Old Testament in different ways in the Old Testament in different ways in the Old Testament for New Testament that's the same. Uh for New Testament that's the same. Uh for New Testament that's the same. Uh the moral commands of the Old Testament the moral commands of the Old Testament the moral commands of the Old Testament are still in place. So all the command are still in place. So all the command are still in place. So all the command the more moral commands the more moral commands the more moral commands >> the moral we're going to talk about this >> the moral we're going to talk about this >> the moral we're going to talk about this when we talk about mosques. when we talk about mosques. when we talk about mosques. >> Yeah. But uh in the old the old covenant >> Yeah. But uh in the old the old covenant >> Yeah. But uh in the old the old covenant laws, theologians especially in the laws, theologians especially in the laws, theologians especially in the reformed tradition yep have typically reformed tradition yep have typically reformed tradition yep have typically divided the uh the commands of the old divided the uh the commands of the old divided the uh the commands of the old testament into three parts. Civil, testament into three parts. Civil, testament into three parts. Civil, ceremonial, moral.

ceremonial, moral. ceremonial, moral. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> Civil would be laws governing how the >> Civil would be laws governing how the >> Civil would be laws governing how the specific nation state of Israel specific nation state of Israel specific nation state of Israel functioned. functioned. functioned. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Uh ceremonial would be the priestly >> Uh ceremonial would be the priestly >> Uh ceremonial would be the priestly laws, sacrifices, that kind of things. laws, sacrifices, that kind of things. laws, sacrifices, that kind of things. And then moral laws, it's like honestly And then moral laws, it's like honestly And then moral laws, it's like honestly it's like things like the New Testament. it's like things like the New Testament. it's like things like the New Testament. Like these are binding moral things that Like these are binding moral things that Like these are binding moral things that reflect the character of God. reflect the character of God. reflect the character of God. >> Exactly. They reflect God's character. >> Exactly. They reflect God's character. >> Exactly. They reflect God's character. God's character doesn't change. They're God's character doesn't change. They're God's character doesn't change. They're still in place. still in place. still in place. >> Galatians 3:6 and 7. Just as Abraham >> Galatians 3:6 and 7. Just as Abraham >> Galatians 3:6 and 7. Just as Abraham believed God and it was counted to him believed God and it was counted to him believed God and it was counted to him as righteousness, know then that it is as righteousness, know then that it is as righteousness, know then that it is those of faith who are the sons of those of faith who are the sons of those of faith who are the sons of Abraham. Abraham. Abraham. >> No, but there's where's there's another >> No, but there's where's there's another >> No, but there's where's there's another one. one. one. >> Specifically says that Abraham, it >> Specifically says that Abraham, it >> Specifically says that Abraham, it implies Abraham had faith in Jesus implies Abraham had faith in Jesus implies Abraham had faith in Jesus >> and somehow he was looking ahead. Now, >> and somehow he was looking ahead. Now, >> and somehow he was looking ahead. Now, that might be a little bit of Hebrews if that might be a little bit of Hebrews if that might be a little bit of Hebrews if we pull in Hebrews 10. Hebrews. we pull in Hebrews 10. Hebrews. we pull in Hebrews 10. Hebrews. >> Yeah, maybe Hebrews 10 what we're >> Yeah, maybe Hebrews 10 what we're >> Yeah, maybe Hebrews 10 what we're thinking about and connecting the dots thinking about and connecting the dots thinking about and connecting the dots between them. But no, but to your point, between them. But no, but to your point, between them. But no, but to your point, um this is why a lot of people don't um this is why a lot of people don't um this is why a lot of people don't realize this. The command to love your realize this. The command to love your realize this. The command to love your neighbor as yourself. What book do you neighbor as yourself. What book do you neighbor as yourself. What book do you think that's found in originally? think that's found in originally? think that's found in originally? >> Well, people would say the gospels. >> Well, people would say the gospels. >> Well, people would say the gospels. >> They are. But Jesus is quoting >> They are. But Jesus is quoting >> They are. But Jesus is quoting Leviticus. Leviticus. Leviticus. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> And there's also laws in Leviticus that >> And there's also laws in Leviticus that >> And there's also laws in Leviticus that we don't observe because, and this will we don't observe because, and this will we don't observe because, and this will get starting into discontinuity is that get starting into discontinuity is that get starting into discontinuity is that when Jesus came and he fulfilled the when Jesus came and he fulfilled the when Jesus came and he fulfilled the law, there were things that are still in law, there were things that are still in law, there were things that are still in place because they reflect God's place because they reflect God's place because they reflect God's unchanging character. But there's things unchanging character. But there's things unchanging character. But there's things not in place because they're no longer not in place because they're no longer not in place because they're no longer needed, such as the purity laws. All needed, such as the purity laws. All needed, such as the purity laws. All right. some discount right. some discount right. some discount >> I got the verse verse six is really good >> I got the verse verse six is really good >> I got the verse verse six is really good uh in the scripture foreseeing that God uh in the scripture foreseeing that God uh in the scripture foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith would justify the Gentiles by faith would justify the Gentiles by faith preach the gospel beforehand to Abraham preach the gospel beforehand to Abraham preach the gospel beforehand to Abraham saying in you shall all the nations be saying in you shall all the nations be saying in you shall all the nations be blessed blessed blessed >> yeah so bro it's like just for listeners >> yeah so bro it's like just for listeners >> yeah so bro it's like just for listeners it is sometimes in a Sunday school class it is sometimes in a Sunday school class it is sometimes in a Sunday school class people are accidentally sharing people are accidentally sharing people are accidentally sharing ignorance ignorance ignorance >> and they'll kind of say like man the Old >> and they'll kind of say like man the Old >> and they'll kind of say like man the Old Testament we were saved by works and in

Testament we were saved by works and in Testament we were saved by works and in the New Testament we're saved by faith the New Testament we're saved by faith the New Testament we're saved by faith through grace wrong do not pass go do through grace wrong do not pass go do through grace wrong do not pass go do not collect $200 not collect $200 not collect $200 >> we're specifically told we're saved by >> we're specifically told we're saved by >> we're specifically told we're saved by faith and faith in Jesus Christ. Abraham faith and faith in Jesus Christ. Abraham faith and faith in Jesus Christ. Abraham heard the promises of God given to him heard the promises of God given to him heard the promises of God given to him >> that were pointing forward to Jesus and >> that were pointing forward to Jesus and >> that were pointing forward to Jesus and it was faith in promises pointing to it was faith in promises pointing to it was faith in promises pointing to Jesus that saved him and everybody else. Jesus that saved him and everybody else. Jesus that saved him and everybody else. >> That's right. Let's keep going. >> That's right. Let's keep going. >> That's right. Let's keep going. >> That's right. So, let me get into some >> That's right. So, let me get into some >> That's right. So, let me get into some specific places of discontinuity. In the specific places of discontinuity. In the specific places of discontinuity. In the Old Testament, there was sin just like Old Testament, there was sin just like Old Testament, there was sin just like in the New Testament. And how they had in the New Testament. And how they had in the New Testament. And how they had to deal with that was through to deal with that was through to deal with that was through sacrifices, through priests who made sacrifices, through priests who made sacrifices, through priests who made those sacrifices, and then at a temple. those sacrifices, and then at a temple. those sacrifices, and then at a temple. This is an example of where when Jesus This is an example of where when Jesus This is an example of where when Jesus came because he's where the whole story came because he's where the whole story came because he's where the whole story was going to, he fulfills all the was going to, he fulfills all the was going to, he fulfills all the promises and all the shadows that are in promises and all the shadows that are in promises and all the shadows that are in the Old Testament. We no longer have the Old Testament. We no longer have the Old Testament. We no longer have those sacrifices, the priest in the those sacrifices, the priest in the those sacrifices, the priest in the temple because Jesus was the one who was temple because Jesus was the one who was temple because Jesus was the one who was the sacrifice. He's the high priest the sacrifice. He's the high priest the sacrifice. He's the high priest because he actually offered the because he actually offered the because he actually offered the sacrifice of himself. And we no longer sacrifice of himself. And we no longer sacrifice of himself. And we no longer have to go to a temple to get this done have to go to a temple to get this done have to go to a temple to get this done because now the church is the temple of because now the church is the temple of because now the church is the temple of the living God. That's right. So these the living God. That's right. So these the living God. That's right. So these are examples in the sense of hey there's are examples in the sense of hey there's are examples in the sense of hey there's continuity and that there is a continuity and that there is a continuity and that there is a sacrifice. There's discontinuity because sacrifice. There's discontinuity because sacrifice. There's discontinuity because we no longer have to go make animal we no longer have to go make animal we no longer have to go make animal sacrifices because Jesus fulfilled it by sacrifices because Jesus fulfilled it by sacrifices because Jesus fulfilled it by sacrificing himself. Let me give a few sacrificing himself. Let me give a few sacrificing himself. Let me give a few other things because there again there's other things because there again there's other things because there again there's a many but then I'll end on the spirit a many but then I'll end on the spirit a many but then I'll end on the spirit because this is actually a really because this is actually a really because this is actually a really important one. In the Old Testament the important one. In the Old Testament the important one. In the Old Testament the sign of the covenant is circumcision. In sign of the covenant is circumcision. In sign of the covenant is circumcision. In the New Testament it's baptism. So the New Testament it's baptism. So the New Testament it's baptism. So there's a there's continuity. There's a there's a there's continuity. There's a there's a there's continuity. There's a sign discontinuity in what it is. But sign discontinuity in what it is. But sign discontinuity in what it is. But here's a big one on the spirit. Guess here's a big one on the spirit. Guess here's a big one on the spirit. Guess what? the Holy Spirit and didn't wait what? the Holy Spirit and didn't wait what? the Holy Spirit and didn't wait until Pentecost to make his like until Pentecost to make his like until Pentecost to make his like arrival.

arrival. arrival. >> No, >> No, >> No, >> he was active in the Old Testament. In >> he was active in the Old Testament. In >> he was active in the Old Testament. In fact, it says that people were filled fact, it says that people were filled fact, it says that people were filled with the spirit in the Old Testament or with the spirit in the Old Testament or with the spirit in the Old Testament or that the spirit rested on them. But that the spirit rested on them. But that the spirit rested on them. But here's the key. It was for specific here's the key. It was for specific here's the key. It was for specific people or for specific task. Usually, people or for specific task. Usually, people or for specific task. Usually, the idea of a king or a prophet was the the idea of a king or a prophet was the the idea of a king or a prophet was the one who was filled with the spirit. one who was filled with the spirit. one who was filled with the spirit. Although, it's cool. Actually, one of Although, it's cool. Actually, one of Although, it's cool. Actually, one of the first people describes it as is the first people describes it as is the first people describes it as is bezel and Oh, bezel and Oh, bezel and Oh, >> I read that. That was in my Bible >> I read that. That was in my Bible >> I read that. That was in my Bible reading this week. reading this week. reading this week. >> The people I love it. They were the >> The people I love it. They were the >> The people I love it. They were the contractors of the tabernacle. people contractors of the tabernacle. people contractors of the tabernacle. people behind the scenes job which is cool behind the scenes job which is cool behind the scenes job which is cool little sermon in of itself there that little sermon in of itself there that little sermon in of itself there that even the people doing the behind the even the people doing the behind the even the people doing the behind the scenes stuff. scenes stuff. scenes stuff. >> What changed at Pentecost is what some >> What changed at Pentecost is what some >> What changed at Pentecost is what some people call the democratization of the people call the democratization of the people call the democratization of the spirit. Instead of the spirit only spirit. Instead of the spirit only spirit. Instead of the spirit only resting on and anointing a few people resting on and anointing a few people resting on and anointing a few people with gifts and using them for ministry, with gifts and using them for ministry, with gifts and using them for ministry, now it's on everybody. now it's on everybody. now it's on everybody. >> Oh yes. >> Oh yes. >> Oh yes. >> Because at Pentecost it goes on >> Because at Pentecost it goes on >> Because at Pentecost it goes on everybody. And in the Old Testament everybody. And in the Old Testament everybody. And in the Old Testament prophesying this, it says, "My spirit prophesying this, it says, "My spirit prophesying this, it says, "My spirit will be poured out on all flesh." Right. will be poured out on all flesh." Right. will be poured out on all flesh." Right. >> Doesn't mean literally every human >> Doesn't mean literally every human >> Doesn't mean literally every human being, but it means all kinds of being, but it means all kinds of being, but it means all kinds of different people and all people who different people and all people who different people and all people who believe in Jesus. believe in Jesus. believe in Jesus. >> Yeah. So, this is a big deal. So, like, >> Yeah. So, this is a big deal. So, like, >> Yeah. So, this is a big deal. So, like, >> all right. So, like this dovetales, this >> all right. So, like this dovetales, this >> all right. So, like this dovetales, this is one of those things where it's like is one of those things where it's like is one of those things where it's like uh you have a Bible inception moment and uh you have a Bible inception moment and uh you have a Bible inception moment and a bunch of stuff comes together in one a bunch of stuff comes together in one a bunch of stuff comes together in one moment and you're like, what?

moment and you're like, what? moment and you're like, what? >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> So, this is one of those. So, if you >> So, this is one of those. So, if you >> So, this is one of those. So, if you read Exodus, one of the interesting read Exodus, one of the interesting read Exodus, one of the interesting things about Exodus is God gives his things about Exodus is God gives his things about Exodus is God gives his law. So all this going to make all sense law. So all this going to make all sense law. So all this going to make all sense here in a second. You know where I'm here in a second. You know where I'm here in a second. You know where I'm going. This is amazing. This is one of going. This is amazing. This is one of going. This is amazing. This is one of those Bibles thinking amazing. those Bibles thinking amazing. those Bibles thinking amazing. >> So God gives the law at >> So God gives the law at >> So God gives the law at >> Sihu >> Sihu >> Sihu >> and the law this is really important. >> and the law this is really important. >> and the law this is really important. It's written on tablets of stone. And It's written on tablets of stone. And It's written on tablets of stone. And it's the law is obviously it's outside it's the law is obviously it's outside it's the law is obviously it's outside of the people. of the people. of the people. >> And when you read Exodus honestly the >> And when you read Exodus honestly the >> And when you read Exodus honestly the big lesson of the book of Exodus if you big lesson of the book of Exodus if you big lesson of the book of Exodus if you zoom out is it's kind of like dagum it zoom out is it's kind of like dagum it zoom out is it's kind of like dagum it doesn't matter what I can do. They can't doesn't matter what I can do. They can't doesn't matter what I can do. They can't obey my laws. Like doesn't matter what I obey my laws. Like doesn't matter what I obey my laws. Like doesn't matter what I do for them. They they just they can't do for them. They they just they can't do for them. They they just they can't they literally can't do it. Okay. Now, they literally can't do it. Okay. Now, they literally can't do it. Okay. Now, so then you get the prophecies that the so then you get the prophecies that the so then you get the prophecies that the spirit's going to indwell, all God's spirit's going to indwell, all God's spirit's going to indwell, all God's people will be poured out on all flesh. people will be poured out on all flesh. people will be poured out on all flesh. Okay? Well, then you fast forward and Okay? Well, then you fast forward and Okay? Well, then you fast forward and bro, I'll be honest, I think this is bro, I'll be honest, I think this is bro, I'll be honest, I think this is arguably the most misunderstood passage arguably the most misunderstood passage arguably the most misunderstood passage in the entire Bible. And I'm not joking. in the entire Bible. And I'm not joking. in the entire Bible. And I'm not joking. Christians use it all the time. I think Christians use it all the time. I think Christians use it all the time. I think most of the time they got no idea what most of the time they got no idea what most of the time they got no idea what it actually means. So, in Matthew 5, it actually means. So, in Matthew 5, it actually means. So, in Matthew 5, Sermon on the Mount, Jesus, it's the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus, it's the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus, it's the verse. You've heard it a million times.

verse. You've heard it a million times. verse. You've heard it a million times. Jesus says, "If your right eye causes Jesus says, "If your right eye causes Jesus says, "If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it you to sin, gouge it out and throw it you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. And if your right hand causes you away. And if your right hand causes you away. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away." to sin, cut it off and throw it away." to sin, cut it off and throw it away." Now, let me give you a little hint. Now, let me give you a little hint. Now, let me give you a little hint. When the law was originally given When the law was originally given When the law was originally given outside the people, we're on a mountain. outside the people, we're on a mountain. outside the people, we're on a mountain. >> When Jesus is preaching the sermon on >> When Jesus is preaching the sermon on >> When Jesus is preaching the sermon on the the the >> mount, >> mount, >> mount, >> we're on a mountain. >> we're on a mountain. >> we're on a mountain. >> Okay, now we got our first little hint. >> Okay, now we got our first little hint. >> Okay, now we got our first little hint. All right. Now, what usually people All right. Now, what usually people All right. Now, what usually people think when they read that passage is think when they read that passage is think when they read that passage is they think, "Hey, man, you know, if I'm they think, "Hey, man, you know, if I'm they think, "Hey, man, you know, if I'm really struggling with sin, I need to be really struggling with sin, I need to be really struggling with sin, I need to be willing to commit a quote unquote willing to commit a quote unquote willing to commit a quote unquote radical amputation to get any sin out of radical amputation to get any sin out of radical amputation to get any sin out of my life." And let me just say that's my life." And let me just say that's my life." And let me just say that's true. That's true. true. That's true. true. That's true. >> Um, I do not think at all that's what >> Um, I do not think at all that's what >> Um, I do not think at all that's what Jesus is saying in Matthew 5:29. Okay? Jesus is saying in Matthew 5:29. Okay? Jesus is saying in Matthew 5:29. Okay? Now, and here's here's why I say that. A Now, and here's here's why I say that. A Now, and here's here's why I say that. A couple clues. Literally the verse before couple clues. Literally the verse before couple clues. Literally the verse before that passage, Jesus says, "If anybody that passage, Jesus says, "If anybody that passage, Jesus says, "If anybody lusts, they have committed adultery in lusts, they have committed adultery in lusts, they have committed adultery in their their their >> heart." Okay. Then when you get to the >> heart." Okay. Then when you get to the >> heart." Okay. Then when you get to the end of the sermon on the mount, I can't end of the sermon on the mount, I can't end of the sermon on the mount, I can't wait. I'm I'm going to preach it next wait. I'm I'm going to preach it next wait. I'm I'm going to preach it next year. You get to the end of the sermon year. You get to the end of the sermon year. You get to the end of the sermon on the mount, Jesus summarizes the on the mount, Jesus summarizes the on the mount, Jesus summarizes the entire sermon on the mount with a tree entire sermon on the mount with a tree entire sermon on the mount with a tree fruit analogy, saying that, man, people fruit analogy, saying that, man, people fruit analogy, saying that, man, people tend to try to fix the fruit, you know, tend to try to fix the fruit, you know, tend to try to fix the fruit, you know, what's coming out of their lives. But what's coming out of their lives. But what's coming out of their lives. But he's going, "Man, actually everything he's going, "Man, actually everything he's going, "Man, actually everything comes from the root of what's in your comes from the root of what's in your comes from the root of what's in your heart." And he's going, "That's the heart." And he's going, "That's the heart." And he's going, "That's the whole point of the sermon of the mount."

whole point of the sermon of the mount." whole point of the sermon of the mount." Okay, now let's put all this stuff Okay, now let's put all this stuff Okay, now let's put all this stuff together. You got Exodus. They get the together. You got Exodus. They get the together. You got Exodus. They get the law. It's outside of them. And they law. It's outside of them. And they law. It's outside of them. And they can't obey the law. Now, we're on a new can't obey the law. Now, we're on a new can't obey the law. Now, we're on a new mountain under the new covenant. The mountain under the new covenant. The mountain under the new covenant. The spirit is poured out inside of and on spirit is poured out inside of and on spirit is poured out inside of and on top of all of God's people. Okay? And top of all of God's people. Okay? And top of all of God's people. Okay? And Jesus is going, and man, there ain't a Jesus is going, and man, there ain't a Jesus is going, and man, there ain't a guy in the world that hasn't felt this guy in the world that hasn't felt this guy in the world that hasn't felt this down deep in his soul at some point in down deep in his soul at some point in down deep in his soul at some point in his life. his life. his life. Jesus is going, "Hey, I want you to Jesus is going, "Hey, I want you to Jesus is going, "Hey, I want you to imagine that there's a guy who's just imagine that there's a guy who's just imagine that there's a guy who's just ate up with lust and he can't stop." And ate up with lust and he can't stop." And ate up with lust and he can't stop." And the guy essentially goes, "You know the guy essentially goes, "You know the guy essentially goes, "You know what? I'm going to cut off the part of what? I'm going to cut off the part of what? I'm going to cut off the part of me me me >> that causes me to sin." And so, you >> that causes me to sin." And so, you >> that causes me to sin." And so, you know, I don't want to be weird or know, I don't want to be weird or know, I don't want to be weird or whatever, but uh you know, he commits a whatever, but uh you know, he commits a whatever, but uh you know, he commits a lustful act and he cuts off. So, he cuts lustful act and he cuts off. So, he cuts lustful act and he cuts off. So, he cuts off his hand and then he notices, man, off his hand and then he notices, man, off his hand and then he notices, man, but I can still lust with my eyes. And but I can still lust with my eyes. And but I can still lust with my eyes. And so he gouges out both of his eyes, but so he gouges out both of his eyes, but so he gouges out both of his eyes, but then he realizes, you know what, man? I then he realizes, you know what, man? I then he realizes, you know what, man? I can still go places in the city and hear can still go places in the city and hear can still go places in the city and hear lustful things. And so then he chops off lustful things. And so then he chops off lustful things. And so then he chops off both of his ears.

both of his ears. both of his ears. >> And then the guy's just so overwhelmed >> And then the guy's just so overwhelmed >> And then the guy's just so overwhelmed with sorrow for his sin that he with sorrow for his sin that he with sorrow for his sin that he realizes, you know what? Even still, I realizes, you know what? Even still, I realizes, you know what? Even still, I can walk to places where lustful things can walk to places where lustful things can walk to places where lustful things are happening. And then he cuts off both are happening. And then he cuts off both are happening. And then he cuts off both of his feet. And the guy keeps chopping of his feet. And the guy keeps chopping of his feet. And the guy keeps chopping off body parts. And he realizes, no off body parts. And he realizes, no off body parts. And he realizes, no matter how many parts I cut off, I can't matter how many parts I cut off, I can't matter how many parts I cut off, I can't cut off the part of me that causes me to cut off the part of me that causes me to cut off the part of me that causes me to sin. sin. sin. >> And what Jesus is saying in the sermon >> And what Jesus is saying in the sermon >> And what Jesus is saying in the sermon on the mount is he's saying, "In order on the mount is he's saying, "In order on the mount is he's saying, "In order to do that, you're going to have to cut to do that, you're going to have to cut to do that, you're going to have to cut out your heart." And then he's going, out your heart." And then he's going, out your heart." And then he's going, "And I can do that for you." "And I can do that for you." "And I can do that for you." >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. And Jesus is applying an Old Testament And Jesus is applying an Old Testament And Jesus is applying an Old Testament prophecy about the discontinuity prophecy about the discontinuity prophecy about the discontinuity >> between the Old Covenant and the New >> between the Old Covenant and the New >> between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant because in Ezekiel chapter 36, Covenant because in Ezekiel chapter 36, Covenant because in Ezekiel chapter 36, deep cut, bro. Deep cut. deep cut, bro. Deep cut. deep cut, bro. Deep cut. >> In Ezekiel 36, God is prophesying about >> In Ezekiel 36, God is prophesying about >> In Ezekiel 36, God is prophesying about the blessing of the new covenant. And he the blessing of the new covenant. And he the blessing of the new covenant. And he says this, "I will give you a new says this, "I will give you a new says this, "I will give you a new heart." And how's he going to do it?

heart." And how's he going to do it? heart." And how's he going to do it? I'll put a new spirit in you. I will I'll put a new spirit in you. I will I'll put a new spirit in you. I will remove from you your heart of stone and remove from you your heart of stone and remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh give you a heart of flesh give you a heart of flesh >> and I will put my spirit in you and move >> and I will put my spirit in you and move >> and I will put my spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful you to follow my decrees and be careful you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws and I will be your god. to keep my laws and I will be your god. to keep my laws and I will be your god. >> That is what the spirit does >> That is what the spirit does >> That is what the spirit does >> is whereas bro check this out. Let me go >> is whereas bro check this out. Let me go >> is whereas bro check this out. Let me go one layer deeper. one layer deeper. one layer deeper. So at the original all Pentecost means So at the original all Pentecost means So at the original all Pentecost means people get tripped up on Pentecost those people get tripped up on Pentecost those people get tripped up on Pentecost those weird people who flames and speaking in weird people who flames and speaking in weird people who flames and speaking in tongues and and gold dust and weird tongues and and gold dust and weird tongues and and gold dust and weird crap. That's that's not what it means. crap. That's that's not what it means. crap. That's that's not what it means. All Pentecost it just means 50th. So All Pentecost it just means 50th. So All Pentecost it just means 50th. So pentto means it's 50th pentto means it's 50th pentto means it's 50th and it's saying that the coming of the and it's saying that the coming of the and it's saying that the coming of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost it was uh it Holy Spirit at Pentecost it was uh it Holy Spirit at Pentecost it was uh it happened 50 days after the giving of the happened 50 days after the giving of the happened 50 days after the giving of the law or uh after Passover. Right. law or uh after Passover. Right. law or uh after Passover. Right. Passover because it celebrated the Passover because it celebrated the Passover because it celebrated the giving of the law. giving of the law. giving of the law. >> That's it. Pentecost was the feast where >> That's it. Pentecost was the feast where >> That's it. Pentecost was the feast where they celebrated the giving of the law at they celebrated the giving of the law at they celebrated the giving of the law at Mount Si which happened 50 days after Mount Si which happened 50 days after Mount Si which happened 50 days after the original Passover. So this was the original Passover. So this was the original Passover. So this was Pentecost was an old covenant feast.

Pentecost was an old covenant feast. Pentecost was an old covenant feast. Okay. Okay. Okay. >> Well, bro, check this out. There is a >> Well, bro, check this out. There is a >> Well, bro, check this out. There is a there's a huge significance to the fact there's a huge significance to the fact there's a huge significance to the fact that the spirit of God falls on all that the spirit of God falls on all that the spirit of God falls on all flesh for the first time on the day of flesh for the first time on the day of flesh for the first time on the day of Pentecost. Because check this out. Pentecost. Because check this out. Pentecost. Because check this out. At the original giving of the law at At the original giving of the law at At the original giving of the law at Mount Si, check this out. There was a Mount Si, check this out. There was a Mount Si, check this out. There was a loud noise. loud noise. loud noise. A cloud descended. A cloud descended. A cloud descended. >> There was fire. >> There was fire. >> There was fire. >> And God wrote his laws on tablets of >> And God wrote his laws on tablets of >> And God wrote his laws on tablets of stone. stone. stone. In the new covenant at the day of In the new covenant at the day of In the new covenant at the day of Pentecost, check this out. There was a Pentecost, check this out. There was a Pentecost, check this out. There was a loud noise, loud noise, loud noise, a rushing like mighty wind. The cloud of a rushing like mighty wind. The cloud of a rushing like mighty wind. The cloud of the spirit descended. the spirit descended. the spirit descended. >> Divided tongues as of >> Divided tongues as of >> Divided tongues as of >> fire >> fire >> fire >> firef fall. God wrote his law on men's >> firef fall. God wrote his law on men's >> firef fall. God wrote his law on men's hearts. And oh, by the way, check this hearts. And oh, by the way, check this hearts. And oh, by the way, check this out. At the first Pentecost in the Old out. At the first Pentecost in the Old out. At the first Pentecost in the Old Testament, 3,000 people died. Testament, 3,000 people died. Testament, 3,000 people died. And at the Pentecost in the New And at the Pentecost in the New And at the Pentecost in the New Testament, 3,000 people were saved.

Testament, 3,000 people were saved. Testament, 3,000 people were saved. >> The Bible's amazing. >> The Bible's amazing. >> The Bible's amazing. So this is what the spirit does is he's So this is what the spirit does is he's So this is what the spirit does is he's poured out inside of every Christian poured out inside of every Christian poured out inside of every Christian everywhere empowering you to live free everywhere empowering you to live free everywhere empowering you to live free hash to live free and walk in the hash to live free and walk in the hash to live free and walk in the righteousness and commands of God. righteousness and commands of God. righteousness and commands of God. >> And and with that with that it's like in >> And and with that with that it's like in >> And and with that with that it's like in the Old Testament it was just Moses who the Old Testament it was just Moses who the Old Testament it was just Moses who got to be there. That's right. got to be there. That's right. got to be there. That's right. >> But that and I'm looking at Acts 2 and >> But that and I'm looking at Acts 2 and >> But that and I'm looking at Acts 2 and it says divided tongues of fire appeared it says divided tongues of fire appeared it says divided tongues of fire appeared to them and rested on each one of them. to them and rested on each one of them. to them and rested on each one of them. It's the democratization of the spirit It's the democratization of the spirit It's the democratization of the spirit doing a new work through anyone who's a doing a new work through anyone who's a doing a new work through anyone who's a believer in Jesus. And it connected back believer in Jesus. And it connected back believer in Jesus. And it connected back because I know we we connected this because I know we we connected this because I know we we connected this again to man fear and overcoming that. again to man fear and overcoming that. again to man fear and overcoming that. So they were filled with the spirit um So they were filled with the spirit um So they were filled with the spirit um at Pentecost in Acts two, but again just at Pentecost in Acts two, but again just at Pentecost in Acts two, but again just two chapters later in Acts 4, they're two chapters later in Acts 4, they're two chapters later in Acts 4, they're facing persecution. I didn't give that facing persecution. I didn't give that facing persecution. I didn't give that context earlier. context earlier. context earlier. >> They are being persecuted. They're >> They are being persecuted. They're >> They are being persecuted. They're gathered together in a room and probably gathered together in a room and probably gathered together in a room and probably being a little afraid and they're they being a little afraid and they're they being a little afraid and they're they start praying. They say, "Oh, sovereign start praying. They say, "Oh, sovereign start praying. They say, "Oh, sovereign Lord." And they're starting to recount Lord." And they're starting to recount Lord." And they're starting to recount some things. And then it talk about some things. And then it talk about some things. And then it talk about these men who had already been filled these men who had already been filled these men who had already been filled with the spirit. Pentecost had already with the spirit. Pentecost had already with the spirit. Pentecost had already come. It says, "Oh, they were filled come. It says, "Oh, they were filled come. It says, "Oh, they were filled with the spirit again." They already had with the spirit again." They already had with the spirit again." They already had the spirit and yet they were filled the spirit and yet they were filled the spirit and yet they were filled again. A subsequent filling and that's again. A subsequent filling and that's again. A subsequent filling and that's when they went out and they preached the when they went out and they preached the when they went out and they preached the word and it says with boldness.

word and it says with boldness. word and it says with boldness. >> So the way they overcame this connecting >> So the way they overcame this connecting >> So the way they overcame this connecting it back to your thing in Timothy the way it back to your thing in Timothy the way it back to your thing in Timothy the way they overcame is it got flamed again. I they overcame is it got flamed again. I they overcame is it got flamed again. I mean it got fanned into flame again. mean it got fanned into flame again. mean it got fanned into flame again. >> Bro, >> Bro, >> Bro, >> let me make this practical because >> let me make this practical because >> let me make this practical because obviously that's that's a lot of helpful obviously that's that's a lot of helpful obviously that's that's a lot of helpful theology. I just don't realize people theology. I just don't realize people theology. I just don't realize people >> are aware of the how big of a deal that >> are aware of the how big of a deal that >> are aware of the how big of a deal that is what you just said. the fact that the is what you just said. the fact that the is what you just said. the fact that the presence of God himself indwells in you. presence of God himself indwells in you. presence of God himself indwells in you. And then when you look at the Old And then when you look at the Old And then when you look at the Old Testament, that's not how it was, but it Testament, that's not how it was, but it Testament, that's not how it was, but it is how it is today. Uh there was is how it is today. Uh there was is how it is today. Uh there was somebody said this uh I thought it was somebody said this uh I thought it was somebody said this uh I thought it was interesting this illustration where like interesting this illustration where like interesting this illustration where like you know we're all going to get to you know we're all going to get to you know we're all going to get to heaven one day and we're going to have heaven one day and we're going to have heaven one day and we're going to have an opportunity to have some very an opportunity to have some very an opportunity to have some very interesting conversations with like you interesting conversations with like you interesting conversations with like you know Moses and we're going to be like know Moses and we're going to be like know Moses and we're going to be like Moses tell us about the time that you Moses tell us about the time that you Moses tell us about the time that you know you were there and leading the know you were there and leading the know you were there and leading the people of God and that you part of the people of God and that you part of the people of God and that you part of the Red Sea. You saw God do some crazy Red Sea. You saw God do some crazy Red Sea. You saw God do some crazy miracles. Then we're going to meet David miracles. Then we're going to meet David miracles. Then we're going to meet David and we're going to be like David you got and we're going to be like David you got and we're going to be like David you got to tell us the story. you you in front to tell us the story. you you in front to tell us the story. you you in front of Goliath and you're so young and the of Goliath and you're so young and the of Goliath and you're so young and the stone so how did you feel and then you stone so how did you feel and then you stone so how did you feel and then you know Elijah Elijah my goodness you know know Elijah Elijah my goodness you know know Elijah Elijah my goodness you know showdown with Baal and all the prophets showdown with Baal and all the prophets showdown with Baal and all the prophets and and then at some point those guys and and then at some point those guys and and then at some point those guys are going to look to you and they're are going to look to you and they're are going to look to you and they're going to be like but wait a minute bro going to be like but wait a minute bro going to be like but wait a minute bro you lived in the time where like the you lived in the time where like the you lived in the time where like the presence of God himself was in you presence of God himself was in you presence of God himself was in you >> and you had the the fire of the Holy >> and you had the the fire of the Holy >> and you had the the fire of the Holy Spirit inside of you and you were a Spirit inside of you and you were a Spirit inside of you and you were a baptist in the Holy Spirit and like you baptist in the Holy Spirit and like you baptist in the Holy Spirit and like you tell me what did you do with your life?

tell me what did you do with your life? tell me what did you do with your life? I went to church when it was raining I went to church when it was raining I went to church when it was raining >> and we were we're going to say things >> and we were we're going to say things >> and we were we're going to say things like, man, well, you know, I posted a like, man, well, you know, I posted a like, man, well, you know, I posted a Bible verse in my social media Bible verse in my social media Bible verse in my social media >> feed. Uh, you know, I uh I try to once >> feed. Uh, you know, I uh I try to once >> feed. Uh, you know, I uh I try to once in a while maybe I I served in church, in a while maybe I I served in church, in a while maybe I I served in church, >> you know, maybe uh I was really brave >> you know, maybe uh I was really brave >> you know, maybe uh I was really brave and you know, maybe went to church a and you know, maybe went to church a and you know, maybe went to church a couple times a month. I don't know. Um couple times a month. I don't know. Um couple times a month. I don't know. Um >> I try to be a good person >> I try to be a good person >> I try to be a good person >> and and I think the point is uh man, we >> and and I think the point is uh man, we >> and and I think the point is uh man, we don't desire to be filled with the don't desire to be filled with the don't desire to be filled with the spirit enough. M spirit enough. M spirit enough. M >> and we've been offered this opportunity >> and we've been offered this opportunity >> and we've been offered this opportunity to the Bible says be filled. That which to the Bible says be filled. That which to the Bible says be filled. That which literally means hey continuously seek to literally means hey continuously seek to literally means hey continuously seek to desire to be filled with the power of desire to be filled with the power of desire to be filled with the power of God living inside of you to be bold to God living inside of you to be bold to God living inside of you to be bold to preach the Bible to to preach the gospel preach the Bible to to preach the gospel preach the Bible to to preach the gospel to let other people know to let your to let other people know to let your to let other people know to let your light so shine before men that they may light so shine before men that they may light so shine before men that they may see your good works and glorify the see your good works and glorify the see your good works and glorify the father in heaven to literally change the father in heaven to literally change the father in heaven to literally change the whole world for the glory of God. And uh whole world for the glory of God. And uh whole world for the glory of God. And uh and I just don't think we realize how and I just don't think we realize how and I just don't think we realize how big of a deal that is. big of a deal that is. big of a deal that is. >> That's right, man. It's good, dude. Let >> That's right, man. It's good, dude. Let >> That's right, man. It's good, dude. Let me let me um let me say real I'm going me let me um let me say real I'm going me let me um let me say real I'm going to make a quick case for why I believe to make a quick case for why I believe to make a quick case for why I believe that this is something Christians should that this is something Christians should that this is something Christians should seek seek seek >> uh to experience subsequent to their >> uh to experience subsequent to their >> uh to experience subsequent to their salvation. Um and then I give a couple salvation. Um and then I give a couple salvation. Um and then I give a couple examples and then we can see if we got examples and then we can see if we got examples and then we can see if we got time to talk about mosques or time to talk about mosques or time to talk about mosques or McKenna whatever is going on. So first McKenna whatever is going on. So first McKenna whatever is going on. So first of all I'll just point some thing. First of all I'll just point some thing. First of all I'll just point some thing. First of all, if you're ever going to read a of all, if you're ever going to read a of all, if you're ever going to read a book, this is a top five uh literally a book, this is a top five uh literally a book, this is a top five uh literally a top five change my life book in my top five change my life book in my top five change my life book in my entire life. Martin Lloyd Jones, old entire life. Martin Lloyd Jones, old entire life. Martin Lloyd Jones, old dead Presbyterian guy. Uh it's called dead Presbyterian guy. Uh it's called dead Presbyterian guy. Uh it's called Joy Unspeakable. Uh power and renewal in Joy Unspeakable. Uh power and renewal in Joy Unspeakable. Uh power and renewal in the Holy Spirit. Fun fact about Martin the Holy Spirit. Fun fact about Martin the Holy Spirit. Fun fact about Martin Lloyd Jones, because um his denomination Lloyd Jones, because um his denomination Lloyd Jones, because um his denomination was historically cessationist when he

was historically cessationist when he was historically cessationist when he wrote this book. Uh he he founded a wrote this book. Uh he he founded a wrote this book. Uh he he founded a printing. It's uh what is it called? printing. It's uh what is it called? printing. It's uh what is it called? It's called uh is it called Puritan It's called uh is it called Puritan It's called uh is it called Puritan Paperbacks? What's it called? Paperbacks? What's it called? Paperbacks? What's it called? >> Who who published this sucker? Oh, damn >> Who who published this sucker? Oh, damn >> Who who published this sucker? Oh, damn it. There's a sticker on I can't see. it. There's a sticker on I can't see. it. There's a sticker on I can't see. But literally the uh the publisher he But literally the uh the publisher he But literally the uh the publisher he founded would not publish his own book founded would not publish his own book founded would not publish his own book about this because it's explicitly about this because it's explicitly about this because it's explicitly continuationist. So this is little fun continuationist. So this is little fun continuationist. So this is little fun fact. fact. fact. >> Um so if you're going to read something >> Um so if you're going to read something >> Um so if you're going to read something about what we're talking about that's about what we're talking about that's about what we're talking about that's the best one in my opinion like top five the best one in my opinion like top five the best one in my opinion like top five books changed my life. Two things that books changed my life. Two things that books changed my life. Two things that are interesting about this. Martin Lloyd are interesting about this. Martin Lloyd are interesting about this. Martin Lloyd Jones point this points this out. So Jones point this points this out. So Jones point this points this out. So it's interesting. It talks about it's interesting. It talks about it's interesting. It talks about charismatic and you know Pentecostal charismatic and you know Pentecostal charismatic and you know Pentecostal kind of stuff. Marlo Jones is like a kind of stuff. Marlo Jones is like a kind of stuff. Marlo Jones is like a Puritan Presbyterian, like a British Puritan Presbyterian, like a British Puritan Presbyterian, like a British highly educated doctor or Puritan highly educated doctor or Puritan highly educated doctor or Puritan Presbyterian. Um, he points out two Presbyterian. Um, he points out two Presbyterian. Um, he points out two things in addition to some other things. things in addition to some other things. things in addition to some other things. One, he points out that the New One, he points out that the New One, he points out that the New Testament uses the language of us being Testament uses the language of us being Testament uses the language of us being quote sealed with the spirit. quote sealed with the spirit. quote sealed with the spirit. >> And his point is, hey guys, a seal is >> And his point is, hey guys, a seal is >> And his point is, hey guys, a seal is something that is visible. He's like, something that is visible. He's like, something that is visible. He's like, this can't be referring to something this can't be referring to something this can't be referring to something that you won't even know if it happened that you won't even know if it happened that you won't even know if it happened to you or you won't even know if it to you or you won't even know if it to you or you won't even know if it happened to somebody. It's a seal. It's happened to somebody. It's a seal. It's happened to somebody. It's a seal. It's visible. The other thing he says is he visible. The other thing he says is he visible. The other thing he says is he uses this analogy. He Martin Lloy Jones uses this analogy. He Martin Lloy Jones uses this analogy. He Martin Lloy Jones thinks Romans 8 when it says um uh we've thinks Romans 8 when it says um uh we've thinks Romans 8 when it says um uh we've been given a uh uh for you no longer uh been given a uh uh for you no longer uh been given a uh uh for you no longer uh slaves to fear slaves to fear slaves to fear uh but you've been given a spirit of ad uh but you've been given a spirit of ad uh but you've been given a spirit of ad adoption as sons by which we cry aba adoption as sons by which we cry aba adoption as sons by which we cry aba father. Uh Martin Lloyd Jones thinks father. Uh Martin Lloyd Jones thinks father. Uh Martin Lloyd Jones thinks that is referring to the experience of

that is referring to the experience of that is referring to the experience of being filled with the spirit, baptized being filled with the spirit, baptized being filled with the spirit, baptized with the spirit. He uses the example of, with the spirit. He uses the example of, with the spirit. He uses the example of, you probably heard this before, of like you probably heard this before, of like you probably heard this before, of like a kid walking along the sidewalk with a kid walking along the sidewalk with a kid walking along the sidewalk with his dad. his dad. his dad. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And then there comes a moment where the >> And then there comes a moment where the >> And then there comes a moment where the dad just randomly just is overwhelmed dad just randomly just is overwhelmed dad just randomly just is overwhelmed with love for his kid, picks him up in a with love for his kid, picks him up in a with love for his kid, picks him up in a big embrace, bear hugs him, twirls him big embrace, bear hugs him, twirls him big embrace, bear hugs him, twirls him around, sets him down. around, sets him down. around, sets him down. >> And he's like, he asks the question, uh, >> And he's like, he asks the question, uh, >> And he's like, he asks the question, uh, in that moment, was the kid anymore a in that moment, was the kid anymore a in that moment, was the kid anymore a son of his father before then? And like, son of his father before then? And like, son of his father before then? And like, well, no, this is the same. He's like, well, no, this is the same. He's like, well, no, this is the same. He's like, "No." "No." "No." >> But he experienced his sunship in a new >> But he experienced his sunship in a new >> But he experienced his sunship in a new way in that moment. way in that moment. way in that moment. >> And Roy Jones says, "That's what the >> And Roy Jones says, "That's what the >> And Roy Jones says, "That's what the baptism of the spirit is." It's the baptism of the spirit is." It's the baptism of the spirit is." It's the moment that the father essentially picks moment that the father essentially picks moment that the father essentially picks you up in a felt visible embrace. you up in a felt visible embrace. you up in a felt visible embrace. >> And he quot this is, by the way, there >> And he quot this is, by the way, there >> And he quot this is, by the way, there was somebody who had a unique experience was somebody who had a unique experience was somebody who had a unique experience with the spirit in my church in with the spirit in my church in with the spirit in my church in Nashville. And bro, this is this dude Nashville. And bro, this is this dude Nashville. And bro, this is this dude was like a brand new Christian. This is was like a brand new Christian. This is was like a brand new Christian. This is what he said. He said, "It felt like what he said. He said, "It felt like what he said. He said, "It felt like being attacked by love." being attacked by love." being attacked by love." >> And I was like, "Bro, you don't even >> And I was like, "Bro, you don't even >> And I was like, "Bro, you don't even know it. just Romans ate this thing. know it. just Romans ate this thing. know it. just Romans ate this thing. >> He didn't even know it. >> He didn't even know it. >> He didn't even know it. >> So, here's what, you know, I don't want >> So, here's what, you know, I don't want >> So, here's what, you know, I don't want to belabor this. Let me just do this to belabor this. Let me just do this to belabor this. Let me just do this real quick.

real quick. real quick. >> The pattern of the New Testament, in my >> The pattern of the New Testament, in my >> The pattern of the New Testament, in my opinion, first of all, I agree with opinion, first of all, I agree with opinion, first of all, I agree with Paul. Going to take a pair of scissors Paul. Going to take a pair of scissors Paul. Going to take a pair of scissors to get out of the Bible. You receive the to get out of the Bible. You receive the to get out of the Bible. You receive the spirit at salvation. Without the work of spirit at salvation. Without the work of spirit at salvation. Without the work of the spirit, you would not even have the spirit, you would not even have the spirit, you would not even have believed in Jesus. believed in Jesus. believed in Jesus. >> So, I'll just let that sit. >> So, I'll just let that sit. >> So, I'll just let that sit. But I do think the pattern of New But I do think the pattern of New But I do think the pattern of New Testament is, you know, kind of three Testament is, you know, kind of three Testament is, you know, kind of three experiences. You got the Holy Spirit experiences. You got the Holy Spirit experiences. You got the Holy Spirit baptizes us into Christ. This is what baptizes us into Christ. This is what baptizes us into Christ. This is what happens at salvation. 1 Corinthians happens at salvation. 1 Corinthians happens at salvation. 1 Corinthians 12:14. 12:14. 12:14. >> In one spirit, we're all baptized into >> In one spirit, we're all baptized into >> In one spirit, we're all baptized into one body. one body. one body. >> Second experience, a disciple baptizes >> Second experience, a disciple baptizes >> Second experience, a disciple baptizes you into water. Matthew 28:19. Yeah, you you into water. Matthew 28:19. Yeah, you you into water. Matthew 28:19. Yeah, you see what I'm doing there? This is what see what I'm doing there? This is what see what I'm doing there? This is what preachers do. preachers do. preachers do. >> That's good. >> That's good. >> That's good. >> Go therefore make disciples of all >> Go therefore make disciples of all >> Go therefore make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of nations, baptizing them in the name of nations, baptizing them in the name of the F, Son, and the Holy Spirit. the F, Son, and the Holy Spirit. the F, Son, and the Holy Spirit. >> Third experience, Jesus, I'm going to >> Third experience, Jesus, I'm going to >> Third experience, Jesus, I'm going to say, fills us with the Holy Spirit. say, fills us with the Holy Spirit. say, fills us with the Holy Spirit. >> I think that's what Matthew 3:11 is >> I think that's what Matthew 3:11 is >> I think that's what Matthew 3:11 is talking about. I will baptize you with talking about. I will baptize you with talking about. I will baptize you with uh John the Baptist says, I will baptize uh John the Baptist says, I will baptize uh John the Baptist says, I will baptize you with water for repentance. He who's you with water for repentance. He who's you with water for repentance. He who's coming after me is mightier than I whose coming after me is mightier than I whose coming after me is mightier than I whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He sandals I am not worthy to carry. He sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit. will baptize you with the Holy Spirit. will baptize you with the Holy Spirit. Now, what some people do, I'll just Now, what some people do, I'll just Now, what some people do, I'll just point this out that uh that oppose what point this out that uh that oppose what point this out that uh that oppose what I'm saying right here is like, well, he I'm saying right here is like, well, he I'm saying right here is like, well, he was talking to the 12 disciples and they was talking to the 12 disciples and they was talking to the 12 disciples and they had a unique thing in Acts. That's had a unique thing in Acts. That's had a unique thing in Acts. That's impossible. That happened in Matthew 3.

impossible. That happened in Matthew 3. impossible. That happened in Matthew 3. The first disciples aren't even called The first disciples aren't even called The first disciples aren't even called until Matthew 4. until Matthew 4. until Matthew 4. >> He's not talking to the 12. He's not >> He's not talking to the 12. He's not >> He's not talking to the 12. He's not talking to the 120. talking to the 120. talking to the 120. >> He's talking about everybody. >> He's talking about everybody. >> He's talking about everybody. >> So, I'll point that out. >> So, I'll point that out. >> So, I'll point that out. >> So, uh and then let me give a couple >> So, uh and then let me give a couple >> So, uh and then let me give a couple another couple quick examples. Okay. another couple quick examples. Okay. another couple quick examples. Okay. >> Uh Ephesians 5:18 talking to people who >> Uh Ephesians 5:18 talking to people who >> Uh Ephesians 5:18 talking to people who are already Christians. are already Christians. are already Christians. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Says, "Do not get drunk on wine, which >> Says, "Do not get drunk on wine, which >> Says, "Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the spirit." Talking to people who with the spirit." Talking to people who with the spirit." Talking to people who are already Christians. So, if your are already Christians. So, if your are already Christians. So, if your theology does not allow you to look at a theology does not allow you to look at a theology does not allow you to look at a person that's already saved and say, person that's already saved and say, person that's already saved and say, "Hey, brother, you need to seek to be "Hey, brother, you need to seek to be "Hey, brother, you need to seek to be continually continually over and over continually continually over and over continually continually over and over filled with the spirit." If your filled with the spirit." If your filled with the spirit." If your theology doesn't allow that, your theology doesn't allow that, your theology doesn't allow that, your theology doesn't allow for Ephesians theology doesn't allow for Ephesians theology doesn't allow for Ephesians 5:18. 5:18. 5:18. >> Okay? You you have the example of the >> Okay? You you have the example of the >> Okay? You you have the example of the disciples. So, I I'm going to do this disciples. So, I I'm going to do this disciples. So, I I'm going to do this real quick. You got uh the disciples real quick. You got uh the disciples real quick. You got uh the disciples obviously um uh uh everybody knows about obviously um uh uh everybody knows about obviously um uh uh everybody knows about Acts 2 when the disciples are filled Acts 2 when the disciples are filled Acts 2 when the disciples are filled with the spirit. with the spirit. with the spirit. >> People forget that is after John chapter >> People forget that is after John chapter >> People forget that is after John chapter 20.

20. 20. >> Uh it says this on the evening of that >> Uh it says this on the evening of that >> Uh it says this on the evening of that first day of the week when the disciples first day of the week when the disciples first day of the week when the disciples were together with the doors locked for were together with the doors locked for were together with the doors locked for fear of the Jewish leaders. Jesus he fear of the Jewish leaders. Jesus he fear of the Jewish leaders. Jesus he does the little heap operates through does the little heap operates through does the little heap operates through the wall and says peace be with you. the wall and says peace be with you. the wall and says peace be with you. Again Jesus said, "Peace be with you. As Again Jesus said, "Peace be with you. As Again Jesus said, "Peace be with you. As the father has sent me, I am sending the father has sent me, I am sending the father has sent me, I am sending you." And with that he breathed on them. you." And with that he breathed on them. you." And with that he breathed on them. Uh obviously a word for spirit is numa Uh obviously a word for spirit is numa Uh obviously a word for spirit is numa means spirit, breath or wind. Jesus means spirit, breath or wind. Jesus means spirit, breath or wind. Jesus breathes on them and says receive the breathes on them and says receive the breathes on them and says receive the holy spirit. So the filling of the holy spirit. So the filling of the holy spirit. So the filling of the spirit in acts two happens after the spirit in acts two happens after the spirit in acts two happens after the disciples receiving the spirit in John disciples receiving the spirit in John disciples receiving the spirit in John 20. There's no way to get away from 20. There's no way to get away from 20. There's no way to get away from that. There's a some subsequent that. There's a some subsequent that. There's a some subsequent experience happened. There's no way to experience happened. There's no way to experience happened. There's no way to get away from that. And then uh you've get away from that. And then uh you've get away from that. And then uh you've got in uh in Acts 1, you you got that got in uh in Acts 1, you you got that got in uh in Acts 1, you you got that again. Acts 1:4 and5. But while he was again. Acts 1:4 and5. But while he was again. Acts 1:4 and5. But while he was eating with him, he gave this command. eating with him, he gave this command. eating with him, he gave this command. Do not uh leave Jerusalem, but wait for Do not uh leave Jerusalem, but wait for Do not uh leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my father promised. Again, this the gift my father promised. Again, this the gift my father promised. Again, this is after the disciples have received the is after the disciples have received the is after the disciples have received the spirit. In Acts 20, he's going, "Hey, spirit. In Acts 20, he's going, "Hey, spirit. In Acts 20, he's going, "Hey, there's still more. You need the gift my there's still more. You need the gift my there's still more. You need the gift my father promised. In a few days, you'll father promised. In a few days, you'll father promised. In a few days, you'll be baptized with the Holy Spirit." Last be baptized with the Holy Spirit." Last be baptized with the Holy Spirit." Last one. I'll just go, I could do so much one. I'll just go, I could do so much one. I'll just go, I could do so much here. Jesus, he's People say, "Okay, here. Jesus, he's People say, "Okay, here. Jesus, he's People say, "Okay, three things. Saved, baptized, filled three things. Saved, baptized, filled three things. Saved, baptized, filled with the spirit." Was Jesus saved? Well, with the spirit." Was Jesus saved? Well, with the spirit." Was Jesus saved? Well, it's a trick question. Saved means to be it's a trick question. Saved means to be it's a trick question. Saved means to be born again. He didn't need to be born born again. He didn't need to be born born again. He didn't need to be born again because he was born right the again because he was born right the again because he was born right the first time.

first time. first time. >> That's right. Sin age. Okay. So, but >> That's right. Sin age. Okay. So, but >> That's right. Sin age. Okay. So, but then baptized obviously baptism of then baptized obviously baptism of then baptized obviously baptism of Jesus. And then right after the baptism Jesus. And then right after the baptism Jesus. And then right after the baptism of Jesus in all four gospels, it's at of Jesus in all four gospels, it's at of Jesus in all four gospels, it's at least mentioned least mentioned least mentioned >> he's filled with the spirit. And I'll >> he's filled with the spirit. And I'll >> he's filled with the spirit. And I'll just point this out. Jesus never just point this out. Jesus never just point this out. Jesus never preached a sermon, never did a miracle, preached a sermon, never did a miracle, preached a sermon, never did a miracle, never raised anybody from the dead until never raised anybody from the dead until never raised anybody from the dead until after the coming of the spirit on after the coming of the spirit on after the coming of the spirit on Jesus's life. So, you know, I'll just Jesus's life. So, you know, I'll just Jesus's life. So, you know, I'll just say this, man. If Jesus needed the say this, man. If Jesus needed the say this, man. If Jesus needed the spirit, how much more do you need the spirit, how much more do you need the spirit, how much more do you need the spirit? spirit? spirit? >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> And then, man, Gosh, there's so many >> And then, man, Gosh, there's so many >> And then, man, Gosh, there's so many other things I could do. It's the other things I could do. It's the other things I could do. It's the pattern all throughout the book of Acts. pattern all throughout the book of Acts. pattern all throughout the book of Acts. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> man. Briefly, let's make it practical. >> man. Briefly, let's make it practical. >> man. Briefly, let's make it practical. Somebody's listening to this and they're Somebody's listening to this and they're Somebody's listening to this and they're like, "Okay, but what do I do now?" What like, "Okay, but what do I do now?" What like, "Okay, but what do I do now?" What would you say? would you say? would you say? >> Yeah. Uh, few things I would say. >> Yeah. Uh, few things I would say. >> Yeah. Uh, few things I would say. So, it is interesting in the book of So, it is interesting in the book of So, it is interesting in the book of Galatians, Galatians, Galatians, >> here's another reason, dude, that I >> here's another reason, dude, that I >> here's another reason, dude, that I would say, man, when somebody is filled would say, man, when somebody is filled would say, man, when somebody is filled with the spirit like we're talking, it's with the spirit like we're talking, it's with the spirit like we're talking, it's a unique, discernable experience you a unique, discernable experience you a unique, discernable experience you have. In Galatians, Paul says to them, have. In Galatians, Paul says to them, have. In Galatians, Paul says to them, um, hey, he's trying to prove to them, um, hey, he's trying to prove to them, um, hey, he's trying to prove to them, salvation is not by works, it's by salvation is not by works, it's by salvation is not by works, it's by faith.

faith. faith. >> And he says, um, hey, let me ask you a >> And he says, um, hey, let me ask you a >> And he says, um, hey, let me ask you a question. Did you receive the spirit by question. Did you receive the spirit by question. Did you receive the spirit by works or by believing with faith? works or by believing with faith? works or by believing with faith? >> Believing with faith. >> Believing with faith. >> Believing with faith. >> I just want to point this out. Unless >> I just want to point this out. Unless >> I just want to point this out. Unless that experience with the spirit was that experience with the spirit was that experience with the spirit was something visible, felt, and tangible, something visible, felt, and tangible, something visible, felt, and tangible, >> that doesn't make any sense. >> that doesn't make any sense. >> that doesn't make any sense. >> So, Gala, the book of Galatians assumes >> So, Gala, the book of Galatians assumes >> So, Gala, the book of Galatians assumes some sort of experience with the spirit some sort of experience with the spirit some sort of experience with the spirit >> that was a before and after experiential >> that was a before and after experiential >> that was a before and after experiential thing in their life. thing in their life. thing in their life. >> Great point. >> Great point. >> Great point. >> I I'll just point that out. Okay. So >> I I'll just point that out. Okay. So >> I I'll just point that out. Okay. So what I would say is man it's not that what I would say is man it's not that what I would say is man it's not that hard. So one I will say some people get hard. So one I will say some people get hard. So one I will say some people get tripped up and they think man you know I tripped up and they think man you know I tripped up and they think man you know I need to become I need to work really need to become I need to work really need to become I need to work really hard hard hard >> and until I become nearly sinless. >> and until I become nearly sinless. >> and until I become nearly sinless. >> I'm never going to receive the gift of >> I'm never going to receive the gift of >> I'm never going to receive the gift of the spirit. And I would just point out the spirit. And I would just point out the spirit. And I would just point out it's called a gift brother. it's called a gift brother. it's called a gift brother. >> Amen. >> Amen. >> Amen. >> There's a reason it's called a gift. M >> There's a reason it's called a gift. M >> There's a reason it's called a gift. M yeah. yeah. yeah. >> And really all you need to do is Jesus >> And really all you need to do is Jesus >> And really all you need to do is Jesus said the father loves to give good gifts said the father loves to give good gifts said the father loves to give good gifts to his kids. to his kids. to his kids. What you need to do, you need to believe What you need to do, you need to believe What you need to do, you need to believe with faith that your heavenly father is with faith that your heavenly father is with faith that your heavenly father is a good dad that loves to give good good a good dad that loves to give good good a good dad that loves to give good good gifts to his kids. And then ask, seek, gifts to his kids. And then ask, seek, gifts to his kids. And then ask, seek, and knock.

and knock. and knock. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> And I'll just say something like this. >> And I'll just say something like this. >> And I'll just say something like this. You might just pray this. Um my You might just pray this. Um my You might just pray this. Um my experience was uh that I began to study experience was uh that I began to study experience was uh that I began to study this doctrine this doctrine this doctrine and it was almost like an agony. and it was almost like an agony. and it was almost like an agony. >> I do not know how to describe it other >> I do not know how to describe it other >> I do not know how to describe it other than an agony. like an agony to have than an agony. like an agony to have than an agony. like an agony to have whatever that was just whatever that was just whatever that was just enveloped my life. enveloped my life. enveloped my life. >> And I entered a season of just begging >> And I entered a season of just begging >> And I entered a season of just begging God in prayer and some fasting and like God in prayer and some fasting and like God in prayer and some fasting and like God, whatever you got on offer, I want God, whatever you got on offer, I want God, whatever you got on offer, I want it. it. it. >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> Yeah, >> that's great. >> that's great. >> that's great. >> And I'll just say something happened to >> And I'll just say something happened to >> And I'll just say something happened to me. And I, you know, I was in a I was in me. And I, you know, I was in a I was in me. And I, you know, I was in a I was in a car in a mall parking lot. a car in a mall parking lot. a car in a mall parking lot. Uh, and dude, something happened to me Uh, and dude, something happened to me Uh, and dude, something happened to me and I just started literally crying out and I just started literally crying out and I just started literally crying out in a car. God, if there is anything you in a car. God, if there is anything you in a car. God, if there is anything you got on offer that I haven't got yet, I got on offer that I haven't got yet, I got on offer that I haven't got yet, I want it. And that something happened to want it. And that something happened to want it. And that something happened to me. I don't know what to say, but you me. I don't know what to say, but you me. I don't know what to say, but you might pray something like this. You might pray something like this. You might pray something like this. You might just pray something like, "Father, might just pray something like, "Father, might just pray something like, "Father, I ask in the name of Jesus Christ that I ask in the name of Jesus Christ that I ask in the name of Jesus Christ that you would fill me with the Holy Spirit you would fill me with the Holy Spirit you would fill me with the Holy Spirit from the top of my head to the soles of from the top of my head to the soles of from the top of my head to the soles of my feet. Everything you have on offer, I my feet. Everything you have on offer, I my feet. Everything you have on offer, I want. I want everything you have for me.

want. I want everything you have for me. want. I want everything you have for me. Thank you for the good gifts that you Thank you for the good gifts that you Thank you for the good gifts that you give." give." give." >> And then believe by faith that your >> And then believe by faith that your >> And then believe by faith that your heavenly father's going to give that to heavenly father's going to give that to heavenly father's going to give that to you. you. you. >> Right? >> Right? >> Right? >> Just go for it. >> Just go for it. >> Just go for it. >> Ask, pray, and wait. That's what the >> Ask, pray, and wait. That's what the >> Ask, pray, and wait. That's what the early church did in Acts chapter one. uh early church did in Acts chapter one. uh early church did in Acts chapter one. uh they devoted themselves to prayer and they devoted themselves to prayer and they devoted themselves to prayer and then in chapter 4 they received the it then in chapter 4 they received the it then in chapter 4 they received the it says the the ground was shaken uh says the the ground was shaken uh says the the ground was shaken uh actually no they were gathered together actually no they were gathered together actually no they were gathered together and they were shaken and they were and they were shaken and they were and they were shaken and they were filled with the Holy Spirit and then uh filled with the Holy Spirit and then uh filled with the Holy Spirit and then uh Ephesians chapter 5 also says hey as you Ephesians chapter 5 also says hey as you Ephesians chapter 5 also says hey as you do that uh by the grace of God walk in do that uh by the grace of God walk in do that uh by the grace of God walk in the spirit uh Ephesians chapter 5 says the spirit uh Ephesians chapter 5 says the spirit uh Ephesians chapter 5 says walk as children of the light and do not walk as children of the light and do not walk as children of the light and do not get drunk for that is debauchery but get drunk for that is debauchery but get drunk for that is debauchery but then be filled with the spirit uh pastor then be filled with the spirit uh pastor then be filled with the spirit uh pastor Paul uh would you pray Paul uh would you pray Paul uh would you pray >> wait before you do that I want to say >> wait before you do that I want to say >> wait before you do that I want to say one last thing one last thing one last thing >> please if somebody's listening and >> please if somebody's listening and >> please if somebody's listening and you're you're ambivalent you're you're ambivalent you're you're ambivalent And honestly, man, you got a spirit of And honestly, man, you got a spirit of And honestly, man, you got a spirit of fear about even seeking this thing. I fear about even seeking this thing. I fear about even seeking this thing. I want to say one last thing to help you want to say one last thing to help you want to say one last thing to help you understand how important this is. understand how important this is. understand how important this is. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Um I I do not want the podcast to end >> Um I I do not want the podcast to end >> Um I I do not want the podcast to end without me pointing this out. All right, without me pointing this out. All right, without me pointing this out. All right, Trinity, will you throw up that I want Trinity, will you throw up that I want Trinity, will you throw up that I want to show you there is something happening to show you there is something happening to show you there is something happening in the global church today that in the global church today that in the global church today that demonstrates visibly how significant demonstrates visibly how significant demonstrates visibly how significant this is. All right. Um so here's what this is. All right. Um so here's what this is. All right. Um so here's what you're looking at. This is I you're looking at. This is I you're looking at. This is I screenshotted this a couple years ago.

screenshotted this a couple years ago. screenshotted this a couple years ago. This is a chart charting the decline in This is a chart charting the decline in This is a chart charting the decline in attendance in America in all of the in attendance in America in all of the in attendance in America in all of the in the major deni Christian denominations the major deni Christian denominations the major deni Christian denominations in America. Now, if you just kind of in America. Now, if you just kind of in America. Now, if you just kind of survey this thing kind of it nets out to survey this thing kind of it nets out to survey this thing kind of it nets out to like a negative it's about 20 25%. Okay, like a negative it's about 20 25%. Okay, like a negative it's about 20 25%. Okay, over the last 20 years over the last 20 years over the last 20 years >> but I have intentionally excluded one >> but I have intentionally excluded one >> but I have intentionally excluded one denomination. denomination. denomination. >> And I'll just get it on the table. This >> And I'll just get it on the table. This >> And I'll just get it on the table. This is not the denomination to which I is not the denomination to which I is not the denomination to which I belong, belong, belong, >> but I've intentionally excluded one >> but I've intentionally excluded one >> but I've intentionally excluded one denomination. denomination. denomination. >> Uh, throw that other chart up there with >> Uh, throw that other chart up there with >> Uh, throw that other chart up there with it on there. It's the AOG. It's it on there. It's the AOG. It's it on there. It's the AOG. It's Assemblies of God. This is the, you Assemblies of God. This is the, you Assemblies of God. This is the, you know, kind of what you'd say is the know, kind of what you'd say is the know, kind of what you'd say is the spiritfilled denomination. spiritfilled denomination. spiritfilled denomination. And in that same time frame, it's plus And in that same time frame, it's plus And in that same time frame, it's plus 51%. Everybody else down 20ish% 51%. Everybody else down 20ish% 51%. Everybody else down 20ish% plus 51%. And I will just say this to plus 51%. And I will just say this to plus 51%. And I will just say this to you, there is a reason I think that's a you, there is a reason I think that's a you, there is a reason I think that's a thing. I'll also note this. In my thing. I'll also note this. In my thing. I'll also note this. In my experience as a pastor, the whole experience as a pastor, the whole experience as a pastor, the whole deconstruction movement like kind of deconstruction movement like kind of deconstruction movement like kind of became sexy to de deconstruct your faith became sexy to de deconstruct your faith became sexy to de deconstruct your faith and apostatize and I'm re-examining and apostatize and I'm re-examining and apostatize and I'm re-examining everything.

everything. everything. >> I'll just say this, dude. Does it happen >> I'll just say this, dude. Does it happen >> I'll just say this, dude. Does it happen to people in every stream? Absolutely. to people in every stream? Absolutely. to people in every stream? Absolutely. I'll just say this. It does not seem to I'll just say this. It does not seem to I'll just say this. It does not seem to happen to people in spiritfilled streams happen to people in spiritfilled streams happen to people in spiritfilled streams of Christianity to the same degree. of Christianity to the same degree. of Christianity to the same degree. >> And here's my theory on why. If an >> And here's my theory on why. If an >> And here's my theory on why. If an argument got you into Christianity, then argument got you into Christianity, then argument got you into Christianity, then a better argument can get you out. M a better argument can get you out. M a better argument can get you out. M >> but you cannot argue somebody out of an >> but you cannot argue somebody out of an >> but you cannot argue somebody out of an encounter with a living God. encounter with a living God. encounter with a living God. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> You can't do it. >> You can't do it. >> You can't do it. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> And so, dude, I just ask, seek, and >> And so, dude, I just ask, seek, and >> And so, dude, I just ask, seek, and knock. knock. knock. >> There you go. >> There you go. >> There you go. >> Paul Cunningham, will you pray for us? >> Paul Cunningham, will you pray for us? >> Paul Cunningham, will you pray for us? >> Love to. >> God, in faith, I just want to say on our >> God, in faith, I just want to say on our behalf here at the table, on behalf of behalf here at the table, on behalf of behalf here at the table, on behalf of everyone listening to this, we do not everyone listening to this, we do not everyone listening to this, we do not want anything less than what you have want anything less than what you have want anything less than what you have for us. And God, we just want to admit for us. And God, we just want to admit for us. And God, we just want to admit that far too often we have settled for that far too often we have settled for that far too often we have settled for so little when you have so much to give. so little when you have so much to give. so little when you have so much to give. >> And so Lord, we are right now. We just >> And so Lord, we are right now. We just >> And so Lord, we are right now. We just want to come to you and ask and seek and want to come to you and ask and seek and want to come to you and ask and seek and knock. Would you fill us with your Holy knock. Would you fill us with your Holy knock. Would you fill us with your Holy Spirit? Spirit? Spirit? >> We thank you for giving us your Holy >> We thank you for giving us your Holy >> We thank you for giving us your Holy Spirit salvation. We thank you that Spirit salvation. We thank you that Spirit salvation. We thank you that because that we are sons and daughters because that we are sons and daughters because that we are sons and daughters of God. That's right. But would you now of God. That's right. But would you now of God. That's right. But would you now fill us, Lord, for greater fill us, Lord, for greater fill us, Lord, for greater transformation so we can become more the transformation so we can become more the transformation so we can become more the men and women that you want us to men and women that you want us to men and women that you want us to become, that you saved us become, but become, that you saved us become, but become, that you saved us become, but also so that you might use us mightily also so that you might use us mightily also so that you might use us mightily in this generation, in our world, in our in this generation, in our world, in our in this generation, in our world, in our families, in our friendships, every families, in our friendships, every families, in our friendships, every sphere you've put us. Fill us, Holy sphere you've put us. Fill us, Holy sphere you've put us. Fill us, Holy Spirit, to that end. Would you drive out Spirit, to that end. Would you drive out Spirit, to that end. Would you drive out any spirit of fear that is in us? Would any spirit of fear that is in us? Would any spirit of fear that is in us? Would you make us bold men and women who can you make us bold men and women who can you make us bold men and women who can be used mightily in your hand, we love be used mightily in your hand, we love be used mightily in your hand, we love you. It's your name we pray. Amen.

you. It's your name we pray. Amen. you. It's your name we pray. Amen. >> Amen. >> Amen. >> Amen. >> Amen.