Is Philip Anthony Mitchell Selling the Gospel!? (Addressing Accusations) | Live Free w Josh Howerton

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here's what you're getting ready to see. here's what you're getting ready to see. Philip Anthony Mitchell, if you don't Philip Anthony Mitchell, if you don't Philip Anthony Mitchell, if you don't know who he is, is honestly arguably the know who he is, is honestly arguably the know who he is, is honestly arguably the most I hate the word famous. I don't most I hate the word famous. I don't most I hate the word famous. I don't know what word to use. know what word to use. know what word to use. >> Influential. >> Influential. >> Influential. >> Influential. Well-known uh preacher in >> Influential. Well-known uh preacher in >> Influential. Well-known uh preacher in America right now. He might be uh I'll America right now. He might be uh I'll America right now. He might be uh I'll shoot you real straight, dude. I listen shoot you real straight, dude. I listen shoot you real straight, dude. I listen to this guy when I'm working out. M uh to this guy when I'm working out. M uh to this guy when I'm working out. M uh right now right now right now >> makes sense. >> makes sense. >> makes sense. >> Makes sense as for reasons that will >> Makes sense as for reasons that will >> Makes sense as for reasons that will become obvious here in a second. God become obvious here in a second. God become obvious here in a second. God preaches like a freight train. I love it preaches like a freight train. I love it preaches like a freight train. I love it so much, dude. [laughter] I love it so so much, dude. [laughter] I love it so so much, dude. [laughter] I love it so much. much. much. >> Um as he has had that as the Lord has >> Um as he has had that as the Lord has >> Um as he has had that as the Lord has elevated him, let me say it like that. M elevated him, let me say it like that. M elevated him, let me say it like that. M >> um more and more I'm starting to see >> um more and more I'm starting to see >> um more and more I'm starting to see people like aim at this guy and make people like aim at this guy and make people like aim at this guy and make super viral accusations against his super viral accusations against his super viral accusations against his character character character >> that just like they take off like a >> that just like they take off like a >> that just like they take off like a rocket. rocket. rocket. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And it's like be >> And it's like be >> And it's like be >> within a week an accusation will be all >> within a week an accusation will be all >> within a week an accusation will be all around the country and he hadn't even around the country and he hadn't even around the country and he hadn't even had time to to mess with it. Okay. So, had time to to mess with it. Okay. So, had time to to mess with it. Okay. So, to set this up, uh, it came out, uh, I to set this up, uh, it came out, uh, I to set this up, uh, it came out, uh, I guess a couple weeks ago that he and a a guess a couple weeks ago that he and a a guess a couple weeks ago that he and a a buddy of his name Tim Timberlake that's buddy of his name Tim Timberlake that's buddy of his name Tim Timberlake that's a pastor I've spent time with, guy down a pastor I've spent time with, guy down a pastor I've spent time with, guy down in Florida. I loved Tim when I was in Florida. I loved Tim when I was in Florida. I loved Tim when I was hanging out with him.

hanging out with him. hanging out with him. >> They've got a podcast and uh, they were >> They've got a podcast and uh, they were >> They've got a podcast and uh, they were doing a thing where they were going to a doing a thing where they were going to a doing a thing where they were going to a couple cities couple cities couple cities >> and then somebody screenshotted that >> and then somebody screenshotted that >> and then somebody screenshotted that they were charging $60 they were charging $60 they were charging $60 >> to attend live podcast episodes. >> to attend live podcast episodes. >> to attend live podcast episodes. Uh, and then it just, you know, the Uh, and then it just, you know, the Uh, and then it just, you know, the internet did what the internet does. So, internet did what the internet does. So, internet did what the internet does. So, like like like >> his So, here's what again I'm try, what >> his So, here's what again I'm try, what >> his So, here's what again I'm try, what I'm going to try to do in the next few I'm going to try to do in the next few I'm going to try to do in the next few minutes is give people a back um a minutes is give people a back um a minutes is give people a back um a backroom understanding of how it affects backroom understanding of how it affects backroom understanding of how it affects churches, churches, churches, >> pastors, and and dynamics at play. So, >> pastors, and and dynamics at play. So, >> pastors, and and dynamics at play. So, what you got to understand is his whole what you got to understand is his whole what you got to understand is his whole church spends the entire week seeing church spends the entire week seeing church spends the entire week seeing viral Tik Tok videos about greedy viral Tik Tok videos about greedy viral Tik Tok videos about greedy megaurch pastor charging $60 to come to megaurch pastor charging $60 to come to megaurch pastor charging $60 to come to his podcast uh recording, his podcast uh recording, his podcast uh recording, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, why why are people >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, why why are people >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, why why are people charging to hear the gospel, you know, charging to hear the gospel, you know, charging to hear the gospel, you know, selling the gospel? selling the gospel? selling the gospel? >> He's a pastor. Uh, you know, maybe the >> He's a pastor. Uh, you know, maybe the >> He's a pastor. Uh, you know, maybe the some of the some of the some of the >> people listen to him for free and he >> people listen to him for free and he >> people listen to him for free and he give him a free lunch, you know, kind of give him a free lunch, you know, kind of give him a free lunch, you know, kind of thing, all that kind He's supposed to be thing, all that kind He's supposed to be thing, all that kind He's supposed to be a street preacher and you know like he's a street preacher and you know like he's a street preacher and you know like he's out there. What if somebody can't afford out there. What if somebody can't afford out there. What if somebody can't afford that you know the ticket price?

that you know the ticket price? that you know the ticket price? >> That's right. Okay. So that's that's >> That's right. Okay. So that's that's >> That's right. Okay. So that's that's like I mean I I saw it [laughter] like I like I mean I I saw it [laughter] like I like I mean I I saw it [laughter] like I saw viral Tik Tok videos. Okay. So I saw viral Tik Tok videos. Okay. So I saw viral Tik Tok videos. Okay. So I start seeing this stuff. So he did what start seeing this stuff. So he did what start seeing this stuff. So he did what mo what what usually does not happen. mo what what usually does not happen. mo what what usually does not happen. And actually later in this podcast I may And actually later in this podcast I may And actually later in this podcast I may explain why uh pastors with larger explain why uh pastors with larger explain why uh pastors with larger platforms don't actually usually we platforms don't actually usually we platforms don't actually usually we don't even see it but don't respond to don't even see it but don't respond to don't even see it but don't respond to that stuff. I may explain that here in a that stuff. I may explain that here in a that stuff. I may explain that here in a second but he zagged second but he zagged second but he zagged >> where some people zigg uh and you're >> where some people zigg uh and you're >> where some people zigg uh and you're going to see him right here responding going to see him right here responding going to see him right here responding to it. Now what we're going to do is I to it. Now what we're going to do is I to it. Now what we're going to do is I want you to see so here's what was said. want you to see so here's what was said. want you to see so here's what was said. Here's what was true. But then we want Here's what was true. But then we want Here's what was true. But then we want to go a layer deeper and talk about to go a layer deeper and talk about to go a layer deeper and talk about like, hey man, what are the dynamics at like, hey man, what are the dynamics at like, hey man, what are the dynamics at play and how should Christians respond play and how should Christians respond play and how should Christians respond when they see these kinds of things? Is when they see these kinds of things? Is when they see these kinds of things? Is that a good way to set this up? That's that a good way to set this up? That's that a good way to set this up? That's great man. That's perfect. great man. That's perfect. great man. That's perfect. >> All right, dude. Let's do this thing. >> All right, dude. Let's do this thing. >> All right, dude. Let's do this thing. So, what So, basically, we're answering So, what So, basically, we're answering So, what So, basically, we're answering a question. How should you think about a question. How should you think about a question. How should you think about it? And how should you respond when you it? And how should you respond when you it? And how should you respond when you see viral accusations against higher see viral accusations against higher see viral accusations against higher profile uh pastors? Okay. Yeah. Philip profile uh pastors? Okay. Yeah. Philip profile uh pastors? Okay. Yeah. Philip Anthony Mitchell, here we go. Now, I'm Anthony Mitchell, here we go. Now, I'm Anthony Mitchell, here we go. Now, I'm going to start stop this thing a few going to start stop this thing a few going to start stop this thing a few times and have a little fun with it. All times and have a little fun with it. All times and have a little fun with it. All right. Here we go. Uh, yep.

right. Here we go. Uh, yep. right. Here we go. Uh, yep. >> John called Pharisees a brood of vipers. >> John called Pharisees a brood of vipers. >> John called Pharisees a brood of vipers. >> I love this. >> I love this. >> I love this. >> It reminds me there are times when you >> It reminds me there are times when you >> It reminds me there are times when you need to speak up and times when you need need to speak up and times when you need need to speak up and times when you need to remain silent. to remain silent. to remain silent. >> I will speak up now. >> I will speak up now. >> I will speak up now. >> Okay. Pop. Now, I'm going to set this >> Okay. Pop. Now, I'm going to set this >> Okay. Pop. Now, I'm going to set this [laughter] like [laughter] like [laughter] like >> I love the the posture, too. He's ready >> I love the the posture, too. He's ready >> I love the the posture, too. He's ready to shoot. He's like, [laughter] to shoot. He's like, [laughter] to shoot. He's like, [laughter] >> God preaches like a freight train. Let >> God preaches like a freight train. Let >> God preaches like a freight train. Let me tell you why I like listening to him. me tell you why I like listening to him. me tell you why I like listening to him. Um, I I love it when guys preach like Um, I I love it when guys preach like Um, I I love it when guys preach like everybody they're listening to is everybody they're listening to is everybody they're listening to is Dangling Over Hell and their only chance Dangling Over Hell and their only chance Dangling Over Hell and their only chance is what they're going to hear in the is what they're going to hear in the is what they're going to hear in the next few minutes. That's how that guy. next few minutes. That's how that guy. next few minutes. That's how that guy. He preaches like a jackhammer. He He preaches like a jackhammer. He He preaches like a jackhammer. He doesn't preach like a feather duster. doesn't preach like a feather duster. doesn't preach like a feather duster. That's what I like. Okay, so those are That's what I like. Okay, so those are That's what I like. Okay, so those are the guys I I like to listen to. Now, the guys I I like to listen to. Now, the guys I I like to listen to. Now, dude, I do want to say this because it's dude, I do want to say this because it's dude, I do want to say this because it's going to become relevant here in a going to become relevant here in a going to become relevant here in a second. If you ever watch Philip Anthony second. If you ever watch Philip Anthony second. If you ever watch Philip Anthony Mitchell sermon, I've watched a few. Um, Mitchell sermon, I've watched a few. Um, Mitchell sermon, I've watched a few. Um, he wears all black every episode. Do he wears all black every episode. Do he wears all black every episode. Do either of you know why? either of you know why? either of you know why? >> No. >> No. >> No. >> No idea. >> No idea. >> No idea. >> He never wears a color that's not black. >> He never wears a color that's not black. >> He never wears a color that's not black. So, bro, this is true story. This is So, bro, this is true story. This is So, bro, this is true story. This is going to make sense why I'm saying this going to make sense why I'm saying this going to make sense why I'm saying this here in a second. Goes to Israel back in here in a second. Goes to Israel back in here in a second. Goes to Israel back in 2018. He's standing next to the Garden 2018. He's standing next to the Garden 2018. He's standing next to the Garden Tomb. While he's there, he just feels Tomb. While he's there, he just feels Tomb. While he's there, he just feels like he has a radical encounter with the like he has a radical encounter with the like he has a radical encounter with the spirit spirit spirit >> and uh just feels like the language >> and uh just feels like the language >> and uh just feels like the language he'll use is an old man died that day is he'll use is an old man died that day is he'll use is an old man died that day is what he says. And the spirit impresses what he says. And the spirit impresses what he says. And the spirit impresses on him that there's going to be a vision on him that there's going to be a vision on him that there's going to be a vision of death to self, death to ambition, of death to self, death to ambition, of death to self, death to ambition, death to his old life.

death to his old life. death to his old life. Ever since that 2018 experience with the Ever since that 2018 experience with the Ever since that 2018 experience with the spirit, um, he always wears black as a spirit, um, he always wears black as a spirit, um, he always wears black as a quote spoken remembrance of the daily quote spoken remembrance of the daily quote spoken remembrance of the daily funeral he has of dying to his old self. funeral he has of dying to his old self. funeral he has of dying to his old self. >> Oh, [laughter] wow. >> Oh, [laughter] wow. >> Oh, [laughter] wow. >> Hey, we can tell. >> Hey, we can tell. >> Hey, we can tell. >> Yeah, we can tell. >> Yeah, we can tell. >> Yeah, we can tell. >> That's right. That's right. Okay. Now, >> That's right. That's right. Okay. Now, >> That's right. That's right. Okay. Now, okay, with that in mind, okay, with that in mind, okay, with that in mind, >> watch how he approaches this. Okay, >> watch how he approaches this. Okay, >> watch how he approaches this. Okay, watch this. watch this. watch this. I am the pastor of 2819 church who's I am the pastor of 2819 church who's I am the pastor of 2819 church who's bringing access to the nation for free bringing access to the nation for free bringing access to the nation for free and did it last year for free. It cost and did it last year for free. It cost and did it last year for free. It cost us almost $2 million to do that. NOBODY us almost $2 million to do that. NOBODY us almost $2 million to do that. NOBODY PAID TO GET IN. I didn't even take up an PAID TO GET IN. I didn't even take up an PAID TO GET IN. I didn't even take up an offering. offering. offering. Now I also have a podcast I've never Now I also have a podcast I've never Now I also have a podcast I've never talked about on this PLATFORM BECAUSE MY talked about on this PLATFORM BECAUSE MY talked about on this PLATFORM BECAUSE MY PODCAST IS SEPARATED FROM 2018. PODCAST IS SEPARATED FROM 2018. PODCAST IS SEPARATED FROM 2018. >> IT IS MY OWN MINISTRY OUTSIDE OF THE >> IT IS MY OWN MINISTRY OUTSIDE OF THE >> IT IS MY OWN MINISTRY OUTSIDE OF THE CHURCH with my partner Tim Timberlake. CHURCH with my partner Tim Timberlake. CHURCH with my partner Tim Timberlake. >> Shout out Tim. Now, we have decided to >> Shout out Tim. Now, we have decided to >> Shout out Tim. Now, we have decided to go on a tour to take the gospel to go on a tour to take the gospel to go on a tour to take the gospel to cities AND BECAUSE THAT'S NOT FUNDED BY cities AND BECAUSE THAT'S NOT FUNDED BY cities AND BECAUSE THAT'S NOT FUNDED BY 2819 and it's not funded BY CELEBRATION 2819 and it's not funded BY CELEBRATION 2819 and it's not funded BY CELEBRATION CHURCH, TIM AND I got to do that with CHURCH, TIM AND I got to do that with CHURCH, TIM AND I got to do that with our own pockets.

our own pockets. our own pockets. >> Okay, pause. So, I just let's point some >> Okay, pause. So, I just let's point some >> Okay, pause. So, I just let's point some things out. So, what you see, what's things out. So, what you see, what's things out. So, what you see, what's really interesting is what you see really interesting is what you see really interesting is what you see online today is the exact same thing you online today is the exact same thing you online today is the exact same thing you see in the scriptures. Now, first of see in the scriptures. Now, first of see in the scriptures. Now, first of all, quick caveat. What none of us are all, quick caveat. What none of us are all, quick caveat. What none of us are saying is that oh any accusation against saying is that oh any accusation against saying is that oh any accusation against a pastor should be totally disregarded a pastor should be totally disregarded a pastor should be totally disregarded and that all that they're all perfect and that all that they're all perfect and that all that they're all perfect that kind of thing. No dude like a that kind of thing. No dude like a that kind of thing. No dude like a little bit of the weird thing about my little bit of the weird thing about my little bit of the weird thing about my life is you know I run in those circles life is you know I run in those circles life is you know I run in those circles know some of those guys and not the guys know some of those guys and not the guys know some of those guys and not the guys I hang out with but dude there are some I hang out with but dude there are some I hang out with but dude there are some there's some bad guys that call there's some bad guys that call there's some bad guys that call themselves pastors. themselves pastors. themselves pastors. >> Yes >> Yes >> Yes >> there are so that's not discounting >> there are so that's not discounting >> there are so that's not discounting that. What I want to point out is you that. What I want to point out is you that. What I want to point out is you will see this this whole thing around will see this this whole thing around will see this this whole thing around they charge $60. Look at these greedy they charge $60. Look at these greedy they charge $60. Look at these greedy guys. So, let me just point this out. guys. So, let me just point this out. guys. So, let me just point this out. He's what he's doing is he's explaining He's what he's doing is he's explaining He's what he's doing is he's explaining the reality, bro. This like this is the reality, bro. This like this is the reality, bro. This like this is literally something me and Tim did from literally something me and Tim did from literally something me and Tim did from our own pocket. So, like let me just set our own pocket. So, like let me just set our own pocket. So, like let me just set the table like baseline reality I think the table like baseline reality I think the table like baseline reality I think every normal sane person would every normal sane person would every normal sane person would understand is that vision requires understand is that vision requires understand is that vision requires provision. That's how God has created provision. That's how God has created provision. That's how God has created the world.

the world. the world. >> Stuff costs stuff. Yeah. >> Stuff costs stuff. Yeah. >> Stuff costs stuff. Yeah. >> It's like I do just want to point this >> It's like I do just want to point this >> It's like I do just want to point this out. It's like pull up that Bible verse out. It's like pull up that Bible verse out. It's like pull up that Bible verse Trinity. Like I think sometimes people Trinity. Like I think sometimes people Trinity. Like I think sometimes people forget Jesus ministry was funded by forget Jesus ministry was funded by forget Jesus ministry was funded by donations. Like you have this right donations. Like you have this right donations. Like you have this right here. It's in it's in John 8. All right. here. It's in it's in John 8. All right. here. It's in it's in John 8. All right. You and it just says right here, Joanna, You and it just says right here, Joanna, You and it just says right here, Joanna, the wife of Chuza Herod's household the wife of Chuza Herod's household the wife of Chuza Herod's household manager, Susanna, and many others. manager, Susanna, and many others. manager, Susanna, and many others. Quote, who provided for them out of Quote, who provided for them out of Quote, who provided for them out of their means. their means. their means. >> So I just want to point this out. Let me >> So I just want to point this out. Let me >> So I just want to point this out. Let me go a layer deeper and let me point some go a layer deeper and let me point some go a layer deeper and let me point some things out before you see. So the things out before you see. So the things out before you see. So the accusations against him, it was all accusations against him, it was all accusations against him, it was all around money. That ain't new. The world around money. That ain't new. The world around money. That ain't new. The world has been doing that. The world has been has been doing that. The world has been has been doing that. The world has been doing that since Jesus. Okay. Uh I will doing that since Jesus. Okay. Uh I will doing that since Jesus. Okay. Uh I will point out so first of all um uh who was point out so first of all um uh who was point out so first of all um uh who was it who accused Jesus ministry of it who accused Jesus ministry of it who accused Jesus ministry of handling uh money poorly and saying handling uh money poorly and saying handling uh money poorly and saying things like man couldn't the money for things like man couldn't the money for things like man couldn't the money for for this that was just poured out on for this that was just poured out on for this that was just poured out on your feet been sold and given to the your feet been sold and given to the your feet been sold and given to the poor poor poor >> Judas [laughter] like Judas so a lot of >> Judas [laughter] like Judas so a lot of >> Judas [laughter] like Judas so a lot of times you'll see people do what they did times you'll see people do what they did times you'll see people do what they did to him to him to him >> and it's like this guy's charging $60 >> and it's like this guy's charging $60 >> and it's like this guy's charging $60 for this stuff why didn't they just give for this stuff why didn't they just give for this stuff why didn't they just give it to homeless Most people say, it to homeless Most people say, it to homeless Most people say, >> "Well, hey, bro, you sound like Judas."

>> "Well, hey, bro, you sound like Judas." >> "Well, hey, bro, you sound like Judas." >> People don't realize that. That's >> People don't realize that. That's >> People don't realize that. That's literally what they they're doing literally what they they're doing literally what they they're doing [snorts] the exact same thing. Yes, they [snorts] the exact same thing. Yes, they [snorts] the exact same thing. Yes, they should have used that money for should have used that money for should have used that money for whatever. whatever. whatever. >> Judas. [laughter] So that you're on a >> Judas. [laughter] So that you're on a >> Judas. [laughter] So that you're on a bad path when you're pulling a Judas. bad path when you're pulling a Judas. bad path when you're pulling a Judas. Okay. Just in general. Okay. Uh, also, Okay. Just in general. Okay. Uh, also, Okay. Just in general. Okay. Uh, also, here's what's really interesting. What I here's what's really interesting. What I here's what's really interesting. What I want to point out is there's spiritual want to point out is there's spiritual want to point out is there's spiritual dynamics between behind stuff like this, dynamics between behind stuff like this, dynamics between behind stuff like this, >> bro. The Apostle Paul. Guess what they >> bro. The Apostle Paul. Guess what they >> bro. The Apostle Paul. Guess what they were saying about the Apostle Paul? This were saying about the Apostle Paul? This were saying about the Apostle Paul? This dude's greedy. He's fleecing churches. dude's greedy. He's fleecing churches. dude's greedy. He's fleecing churches. He's robbing people. This is all just He's robbing people. This is all just He's robbing people. This is all just he's just collecting money for personal he's just collecting money for personal he's just collecting money for personal gain. Pe people miss this dude. There's gain. Pe people miss this dude. There's gain. Pe people miss this dude. There's layers to the scriptures people just layers to the scriptures people just layers to the scriptures people just don't think about. So this is 2 don't think about. So this is 2 don't think about. So this is 2 Corinthians 12:16. Corinthians 12:16. Corinthians 12:16. >> So you get these whole the super >> So you get these whole the super >> So you get these whole the super apostles who are trying to discredit apostles who are trying to discredit apostles who are trying to discredit Paul's ministry uh out of envy. This is Paul's ministry uh out of envy. This is Paul's ministry uh out of envy. This is what it says. And I'm just going to read what it says. And I'm just going to read what it says. And I'm just going to read it to you because people miss this is it to you because people miss this is it to you because people miss this is what he was dealing with. what he was dealing with. what he was dealing with. >> Paul says, "Granting that I myself did >> Paul says, "Granting that I myself did >> Paul says, "Granting that I myself did not burden you. I was crafty. You say, not burden you. I was crafty. You say, not burden you. I was crafty. You say, so he's addressing what he was so he's addressing what he was so he's addressing what he was addressing what the first century addressing what the first century addressing what the first century version of X was saying about him. I was version of X was saying about him. I was version of X was saying about him. I was crafty, you say, and got the better of crafty, you say, and got the better of crafty, you say, and got the better of you by deceit. You're, you know, I just, you by deceit. You're, you know, I just, you by deceit. You're, you know, I just, you know, fleeced you out of here. Did I you know, fleeced you out of here. Did I you know, fleeced you out of here. Did I take advantage of you through any of take advantage of you through any of take advantage of you through any of those whom I sent you? I urged Titus to those whom I sent you? I urged Titus to those whom I sent you? I urged Titus to go and sent the brother with him. Did go and sent the brother with him. Did go and sent the brother with him. Did Titus take advantage of you? So what Titus take advantage of you? So what Titus take advantage of you? So what he's, so notice what he's doing. The he's, so notice what he's doing. The he's, so notice what he's doing. The objections against Paul's ministry is objections against Paul's ministry is objections against Paul's ministry is they were trying to problematize him they were trying to problematize him they were trying to problematize him >> to get people to stop trusting him >> to get people to stop trusting him >> to get people to stop trusting him because this guy's just in it for the because this guy's just in it for the because this guy's just in it for the money. Okay. Now, you see this again uh money. Okay. Now, you see this again uh money. Okay. Now, you see this again uh 2 Corinthians 11:7 uh and and following

2 Corinthians 11:7 uh and and following 2 Corinthians 11:7 uh and and following >> uh this what he says. >> uh this what he says. >> uh this what he says. He says um or did I commit a sin in He says um or did I commit a sin in He says um or did I commit a sin in humbling myself so that you might be humbling myself so that you might be humbling myself so that you might be exalted because I preached the gospel to exalted because I preached the gospel to exalted because I preached the gospel to you free of charge? And then he he you free of charge? And then he he you free of charge? And then he he addresses this. I robbed other churches addresses this. I robbed other churches addresses this. I robbed other churches by accepting support from them in order by accepting support from them in order by accepting support from them in order to serve you. In other words, what they to serve you. In other words, what they to serve you. In other words, what they were saying is, hey man, po they were were saying is, hey man, po they were were saying is, hey man, po they were getting in people's ear and they're getting in people's ear and they're getting in people's ear and they're going, man, maybe Paul didn't fleece going, man, maybe Paul didn't fleece going, man, maybe Paul didn't fleece you, but he robbed all these other you, but he robbed all these other you, but he robbed all these other people. people. people. >> So, so I just what I'm pointing out is >> So, so I just what I'm pointing out is >> So, so I just what I'm pointing out is what happened to Philillip that's been what happened to Philillip that's been what happened to Philillip that's been happening since the beginning. happening since the beginning. happening since the beginning. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Because people can twist just basic >> Because people can twist just basic >> Because people can twist just basic human realities. Stuff costs stuff. human realities. Stuff costs stuff. human realities. Stuff costs stuff. Vision requires provision. Does that Vision requires provision. Does that Vision requires provision. Does that make sense? make sense? make sense? >> That makes a lot of sense. That makes >> That makes a lot of sense. That makes >> That makes a lot of sense. That makes sense. sense. sense. >> It seems to me like, you know, we also >> It seems to me like, you know, we also >> It seems to me like, you know, we also live in this culture where in some ways live in this culture where in some ways live in this culture where in some ways consumer Christianity is meeting consumer Christianity is meeting consumer Christianity is meeting entitlement Christianity. So like it's entitlement Christianity. So like it's entitlement Christianity. So like it's consumer Christianity is like, well, I consumer Christianity is like, well, I consumer Christianity is like, well, I want to go to that event and I want to want to go to that event and I want to want to go to that event and I want to get that book from that author and I get that book from that author and I get that book from that author and I want to get to go to this service and it want to get to go to this service and it want to get to go to this service and it must be really good and if I don't like must be really good and if I don't like must be really good and if I don't like it, I'm going to I'm going to go on it, I'm going to I'm going to go on it, I'm going to I'm going to go on social media and complain that, you social media and complain that, you social media and complain that, you know, the the music was too loud or know, the the music was too loud or know, the the music was too loud or whatever. You know, we never heard that, whatever. You know, we never heard that, whatever. You know, we never heard that, by the way. That never happens. Never by the way. That never happens. Never by the way. That never happens. Never happens.

happens. happens. >> Um, that's consumer Christianity. And >> Um, that's consumer Christianity. And >> Um, that's consumer Christianity. And then there's entitlement Christianity, then there's entitlement Christianity, then there's entitlement Christianity, which is a little bit of like the the which is a little bit of like the the which is a little bit of like the the ethos of our culture right now of like, ethos of our culture right now of like, ethos of our culture right now of like, man, I want everything free. I'm man, I want everything free. I'm man, I want everything free. I'm entitled to receive this, this, and entitled to receive this, this, and entitled to receive this, this, and that. And now we applied it to the that. And now we applied it to the that. And now we applied it to the church. church. church. >> And uh again, it's just it's the uh the >> And uh again, it's just it's the uh the >> And uh again, it's just it's the uh the gospel is free. Producing an event uh in gospel is free. Producing an event uh in gospel is free. Producing an event uh in a stadium is not. a stadium is not. a stadium is not. >> It's not. >> It's not. >> It's not. >> The the building, the stage, the >> The the building, the stage, the >> The the building, the stage, the lighting, the music, like uh the bus, lighting, the music, like uh the bus, lighting, the music, like uh the bus, that's not free. And so same thing if that's not free. And so same thing if that's not free. And so same thing if you go to the store, like you you have a you go to the store, like you you have a you go to the store, like you you have a Bible there, Paul. Uh did you pay for Bible there, Paul. Uh did you pay for Bible there, Paul. Uh did you pay for that Bible? that Bible? that Bible? >> I did. >> I did. >> I did. >> Okay. So, you can't go to the store and >> Okay. So, you can't go to the store and >> Okay. So, you can't go to the store and say, "Hey, you can't sell me the word of say, "Hey, you can't sell me the word of say, "Hey, you can't sell me the word of God." That's true. Now, you can listen God." That's true. Now, you can listen God." That's true. Now, you can listen to the the Bible teaching for free and to the the Bible teaching for free and to the the Bible teaching for free and that's how it should be. Um, but if you that's how it should be. Um, but if you that's how it should be. Um, but if you want that book with those pages uh want that book with those pages uh want that book with those pages uh printed in in that, you know, whatever printed in in that, you know, whatever printed in in that, you know, whatever soft cover, whatever, um, it's going to soft cover, whatever, um, it's going to soft cover, whatever, um, it's going to it's going to cost something. it's going to cost something. it's going to cost something. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Shocking. >> Shocking. >> Shocking. >> Shocking. Okay. Now, uh, watch how this >> Shocking. Okay. Now, uh, watch how this >> Shocking. Okay. Now, uh, watch how this goes because you're about to see why goes because you're about to see why goes because you're about to see why every single watch. Every single time every single watch. Every single time every single watch. Every single time there is a spiritfilled prophetic there is a spiritfilled prophetic there is a spiritfilled prophetic pastor, the entire world begins to align pastor, the entire world begins to align pastor, the entire world begins to align against that man.

against that man. against that man. >> Okay? So, watch this. Check this out. >> Okay? So, watch this. Check this out. >> Okay? So, watch this. Check this out. >> It's why there is tickets. >> It's why there is tickets. >> It's why there is tickets. >> We have to pay for venues and security >> We have to pay for venues and security >> We have to pay for venues and security and productions don't rent themselves and productions don't rent themselves and productions don't rent themselves from our own pockets. from our own pockets. from our own pockets. for all you ignorant people for all you ignorant people for all you ignorant people and for all OF YOU THAT WANT TO TEAR ME and for all OF YOU THAT WANT TO TEAR ME and for all OF YOU THAT WANT TO TEAR ME DOWN IN PUBLIC FOR HAVING A $60 TICKET. DOWN IN PUBLIC FOR HAVING A $60 TICKET. DOWN IN PUBLIC FOR HAVING A $60 TICKET. >> I want to explain why he says this here >> I want to explain why he says this here >> I want to explain why he says this here in a second in a second in a second >> AND A VIP FOR ME. ALL RIGHT. Last year >> AND A VIP FOR ME. ALL RIGHT. Last year >> AND A VIP FOR ME. ALL RIGHT. Last year on our tour, on our tour, on our tour, >> okay, listen to this testimony. I'm >> okay, listen to this testimony. I'm >> okay, listen to this testimony. I'm going to make a point. going to make a point. going to make a point. >> Our first location was Dallas, Texas. >> Our first location was Dallas, Texas. >> Our first location was Dallas, Texas. >> Shut up. Shut up. Come to Lake. worship >> Shut up. Shut up. Come to Lake. worship >> Shut up. Shut up. Come to Lake. worship for an hour. Tim and I laid hands on for an hour. Tim and I laid hands on for an hour. Tim and I laid hands on everybody. everybody. everybody. >> And at the end of the night, there was a >> And at the end of the night, there was a >> And at the end of the night, there was a woman in the back who was pregnant. woman in the back who was pregnant. woman in the back who was pregnant. And I went up to her, "Why are you And I went up to her, "Why are you And I went up to her, "Why are you crying?" She said, "I'm pregnant." crying?" She said, "I'm pregnant." crying?" She said, "I'm pregnant." And the [music] doctor told me my baby And the [music] doctor told me my baby And the [music] doctor told me my baby is going to be born deformed.

is going to be born deformed. is going to be born deformed. >> Okay, pause. Now, Trina, here's what I >> Okay, pause. Now, Trina, here's what I >> Okay, pause. Now, Trina, here's what I want you to do because it's a longer want you to do because it's a longer want you to do because it's a longer testimony. It ends awesome. Click testimony. It ends awesome. Click testimony. It ends awesome. Click through like to about I don't know. through like to about I don't know. through like to about I don't know. Click a little farther. A little Click a little farther. A little Click a little farther. A little farther. I'm going to tell you, keep farther. I'm going to tell you, keep farther. I'm going to tell you, keep keep going. Keep going. He gone. Okay, keep going. Keep going. He gone. Okay, keep going. Keep going. He gone. Okay, go back just a little bit. go back just a little bit. go back just a little bit. Back just a little bit farther. So, hit Back just a little bit farther. So, hit Back just a little bit farther. So, hit play. Here's what he's going to do. He play. Here's what he's going to do. He play. Here's what he's going to do. He receives. So, they pray over this. They receives. So, they pray over this. They receives. So, they pray over this. They pray over this lady that's got a medical pray over this lady that's got a medical pray over this lady that's got a medical diagnosis. He and Pastor Tim, they pray diagnosis. He and Pastor Tim, they pray diagnosis. He and Pastor Tim, they pray over this lady. Uh, something over this lady. Uh, something over this lady. Uh, something supernatural happens. Watch what he does supernatural happens. Watch what he does supernatural happens. Watch what he does here. He just explains, "God, he God here. He just explains, "God, he God here. He just explains, "God, he God heals this lady and the baby through heals this lady and the baby through heals this lady and the baby through their prayer." So, play this real quick. their prayer." So, play this real quick. their prayer." So, play this real quick. I want to point Make a point here. Well, let me just say predominantly Well, let me just say predominantly black churches are so fun to preach at. black churches are so fun to preach at. black churches are so fun to preach at. They are They are They are >> the energy, man. >> the energy, man. >> the energy, man. >> Love it. >> Love it. >> Love it. >> You preach like 70% better when you're >> You preach like 70% better when you're >> You preach like 70% better when you're in one. in one. in one. >> They're alive. >> They're alive. >> They're alive. >> Testimony of a miracle. There I am praying for of a miracle. There I am praying for her. There I am praying for her. And her. There I am praying for her. And her. There I am praying for her. And there is her healthy baby boy.

Praise God, man. Praise God. That's Praise God, man. Praise God. That's right. All right. right. All right. right. All right. All right. Now, pause, Trinity. Okay. All right. Now, pause, Trinity. Okay. All right. Now, pause, Trinity. Okay. Now, let me let me make a point real Now, let me let me make a point real Now, let me let me make a point real quick because there is there is things quick because there is there is things quick because there is there is things there are things that happen in the there are things that happen in the there are things that happen in the spiritual that explain why all of heaven spiritual that explain why all of heaven spiritual that explain why all of heaven and earth, actually, I should say all of and earth, actually, I should say all of and earth, actually, I should say all of hell and earth align against a man like hell and earth align against a man like hell and earth align against a man like that. Okay. So, here's your theology that. Okay. So, here's your theology that. Okay. So, here's your theology that comes to come into comes into play. that comes to come into comes into play. that comes to come into comes into play. Whatever God creates, Satan Whatever God creates, Satan Whatever God creates, Satan counterfeits. God has the Holy Spirit. counterfeits. God has the Holy Spirit. counterfeits. God has the Holy Spirit. Satan counterfeits with unholy spirits, Satan counterfeits with unholy spirits, Satan counterfeits with unholy spirits, the Bible calls demons. Okay? This is the Bible calls demons. Okay? This is the Bible calls demons. Okay? This is why for every action of the Holy Spirit why for every action of the Holy Spirit why for every action of the Holy Spirit like that, there is an opposite reaction like that, there is an opposite reaction like that, there is an opposite reaction of unholy spirits, the Bible calls of unholy spirits, the Bible calls of unholy spirits, the Bible calls demons. This is why, listen, we say this demons. This is why, listen, we say this demons. This is why, listen, we say this all the time. You go through the book of all the time. You go through the book of all the time. You go through the book of Acts, take two highlighters. I did this Acts, take two highlighters. I did this Acts, take two highlighters. I did this in my Bible probably six years ago. Take in my Bible probably six years ago. Take in my Bible probably six years ago. Take two highlighters. Every time there's a two highlighters. Every time there's a two highlighters. Every time there's a revival, put it in one color. Every time revival, put it in one color. Every time revival, put it in one color. Every time there's a riot, put it in another color. there's a riot, put it in another color. there's a riot, put it in another color. And the entire pattern of the book of And the entire pattern of the book of And the entire pattern of the book of Acts is revival riot. Revival riot. Acts is revival riot. Revival riot. Acts is revival riot. Revival riot. Revival riot. Okay? Why? Because for Revival riot. Okay? Why? Because for Revival riot. Okay? Why? Because for every action of the Holy Spirit, there every action of the Holy Spirit, there every action of the Holy Spirit, there is an opposite reaction of unholy is an opposite reaction of unholy is an opposite reaction of unholy spirits. The Bible calls demons. Now, spirits. The Bible calls demons. Now, spirits. The Bible calls demons. Now, here's what I want to point out. When here's what I want to point out. When here's what I want to point out. When you have a guy, an anointed man that is you have a guy, an anointed man that is you have a guy, an anointed man that is a prophetic preacher like that, I'm a prophetic preacher like that, I'm a prophetic preacher like that, I'm telling you right now, if you are telling you right now, if you are telling you right now, if you are reading your Bible with two eyes open, reading your Bible with two eyes open, reading your Bible with two eyes open, you will know all of hell will put a you will know all of hell will put a you will know all of hell will put a bullseye on that man.

bullseye on that man. bullseye on that man. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, let me just uh let me make a do a >> So, let me just uh let me make a do a >> So, let me just uh let me make a do a little Bible teaching here and then I little Bible teaching here and then I little Bible teaching here and then I want to get back to this and make a want to get back to this and make a want to get back to this and make a point. Okay. My here's one thing I want point. Okay. My here's one thing I want point. Okay. My here's one thing I want to say and when I listen to a guy like to say and when I listen to a guy like to say and when I listen to a guy like that here here's uh here's what I that here here's uh here's what I that here here's uh here's what I constantly think about. Um, everybody constantly think about. Um, everybody constantly think about. Um, everybody thinks they want a prophetic pastor thinks they want a prophetic pastor thinks they want a prophetic pastor until they get one. >> So, so here's my point. All throughout >> So, so here's my point. All throughout the scriptures in the New Testament, the scriptures in the New Testament, the scriptures in the New Testament, there is a repeated phrase over and there is a repeated phrase over and there is a repeated phrase over and over. You always kill the prophets. over. You always kill the prophets. over. You always kill the prophets. >> You always kill the prophets. So, bro, >> You always kill the prophets. So, bro, >> You always kill the prophets. So, bro, you you you This is You've probably never seen this This is You've probably never seen this This is You've probably never seen this before. So, here's the best example of before. So, here's the best example of before. So, here's the best example of this. I'm going to tie this back to the this. I'm going to tie this back to the this. I'm going to tie this back to the spiritual realities around this. So spiritual realities around this. So spiritual realities around this. So dude, if you go to Acts 7, Acts 7, dude, if you go to Acts 7, Acts 7, dude, if you go to Acts 7, Acts 7, stoning of Stephen, Stephen is in front stoning of Stephen, Stephen is in front stoning of Stephen, Stephen is in front of the Pharisees. And what Stephen of the Pharisees. And what Stephen of the Pharisees. And what Stephen essentially what Stephen tells them is, essentially what Stephen tells them is, essentially what Stephen tells them is, "You brood of vipers, you hypocrites. "You brood of vipers, you hypocrites. "You brood of vipers, you hypocrites. You say that you're sticking up for You say that you're sticking up for You say that you're sticking up for Moses. You're saying that you're the Moses. You're saying that you're the Moses. You're saying that you're the one. You love prophets. You're saying one. You love prophets. You're saying one. You love prophets. You're saying that." And what he says is he preaches that." And what he says is he preaches that." And what he says is he preaches this whole sermon and then he finishes this whole sermon and then he finishes this whole sermon and then he finishes the sermon going, "You're a bunch of the sermon going, "You're a bunch of the sermon going, "You're a bunch of hypocrites and liars because you'll hypocrites and liars because you'll hypocrites and liars because you'll build museums to prophets that are dead build museums to prophets that are dead build museums to prophets that are dead because dead prophets are safe because dead prophets are safe because dead prophets are safe prophets." And then what he says is prophets." And then what he says is prophets." And then what he says is every time you see a prophet, you every time you see a prophet, you every time you see a prophet, you persecute them and you kill them every persecute them and you kill them every persecute them and you kill them every single time. Bro, this is so crazy. I single time. Bro, this is so crazy. I single time. Bro, this is so crazy. I never saw this in the Bible till this never saw this in the Bible till this never saw this in the Bible till this year. So bro, they're telling Stephen, year. So bro, they're telling Stephen, year. So bro, they're telling Stephen, "No, we don't. We love prophets." Mhm.

"No, we don't. We love prophets." Mhm. "No, we don't. We love prophets." Mhm. >> Okay. So then Steven says, "You always >> Okay. So then Steven says, "You always >> Okay. So then Steven says, "You always kill the prophets. You killed prophets kill the prophets. You killed prophets kill the prophets. You killed prophets like Moses." All right. So then check like Moses." All right. So then check like Moses." All right. So then check this out. God pronounces visible this out. God pronounces visible this out. God pronounces visible judgment on the Pharisees who are judgment on the Pharisees who are judgment on the Pharisees who are stoning Stephen in Acts 7 stoning Stephen in Acts 7 stoning Stephen in Acts 7 >> by turning Stephen into Moses as they >> by turning Stephen into Moses as they >> by turning Stephen into Moses as they kill him in Acts chapter 7. So here's kill him in Acts chapter 7. So here's kill him in Acts chapter 7. So here's what I mean. Check this out, bro. You what I mean. Check this out, bro. You what I mean. Check this out, bro. You never seen this. This is amazing. So, never seen this. This is amazing. So, never seen this. This is amazing. So, the Pharisees in the Gospels, they're the Pharisees in the Gospels, they're the Pharisees in the Gospels, they're having a little back and forth about the having a little back and forth about the having a little back and forth about the man born blind. Okay? And what they say man born blind. Okay? And what they say man born blind. Okay? And what they say is the Pharisees say, "We know God spoke is the Pharisees say, "We know God spoke is the Pharisees say, "We know God spoke to Moses, but as for this guy, Jesus, we to Moses, but as for this guy, Jesus, we to Moses, but as for this guy, Jesus, we don't even know where he comes from." don't even know where he comes from." don't even know where he comes from." Okay? But check this out. How had Moses Okay? But check this out. How had Moses Okay? But check this out. How had Moses established his authority established his authority established his authority >> by working great wonders. What is >> by working great wonders. What is >> by working great wonders. What is Stephen doing in Acts chapter 7 when Stephen doing in Acts chapter 7 when Stephen doing in Acts chapter 7 when they want to kill him? Working great they want to kill him? Working great they want to kill him? Working great wonders. Check this out, brother. This wonders. Check this out, brother. This wonders. Check this out, brother. This is amazing. When Moses comes off the is amazing. When Moses comes off the is amazing. When Moses comes off the mountain, we know that he comes off with mountain, we know that he comes off with mountain, we know that he comes off with a shining face, a shining face, a shining face, >> bro. In Acts 6:15, when the Pharisees >> bro. In Acts 6:15, when the Pharisees >> bro. In Acts 6:15, when the Pharisees see Stephen and they're like, "We're see Stephen and they're like, "We're see Stephen and they're like, "We're going to kill this guy."

going to kill this guy." going to kill this guy." >> What it specifically says, I'm going to >> What it specifically says, I'm going to >> What it specifically says, I'm going to read it. At this point, everyone in the read it. At this point, everyone in the read it. At this point, everyone in the high council stared at Stephen because high council stared at Stephen because high council stared at Stephen because his face became as bright as an angel's. his face became as bright as an angel's. his face became as bright as an angel's. >> So, dude, I want you to think about >> So, dude, I want you to think about >> So, dude, I want you to think about this. Wow. this. Wow. this. Wow. >> All these guys are looking at Stephen >> All these guys are looking at Stephen >> All these guys are looking at Stephen and they're going, "We hat, you know, and they're going, "We hat, you know, and they're going, "We hat, you know, Stephen's going, "You kill the Stephen's going, "You kill the Stephen's going, "You kill the prophets." prophets." prophets." [clears throat] And then a prophet, [clears throat] And then a prophet, [clears throat] And then a prophet, watch this, like Moses comes to the watch this, like Moses comes to the watch this, like Moses comes to the Pharisees, Pharisees, Pharisees, and he's ministering in the same power and he's ministering in the same power and he's ministering in the same power that Moses ministered in. And what do that Moses ministered in. And what do that Moses ministered in. And what do they do? They kill him. M they do? They kill him. M they do? They kill him. M >> my point is whenever you see there's a >> my point is whenever you see there's a >> my point is whenever you see there's a dude like that full of the spirit dude like that full of the spirit dude like that full of the spirit prophetic preacher you you watch out prophetic preacher you you watch out prophetic preacher you you watch out >> everybody thinks they want a prophetic >> everybody thinks they want a prophetic >> everybody thinks they want a prophetic pastor until they get one because the pastor until they get one because the pastor until they get one because the second you get a prophetic pastor like second you get a prophetic pastor like second you get a prophetic pastor like that guy you are going to have all of that guy you are going to have all of that guy you are going to have all of hell and earth aligned against him to hell and earth aligned against him to hell and earth aligned against him to discredit him. So this is what So when discredit him. So this is what So when discredit him. So this is what So when you see obvious manifestation of the you see obvious manifestation of the you see obvious manifestation of the spirit in his ministry, expect obvious spirit in his ministry, expect obvious spirit in his ministry, expect obvious man manifestation of unholy spirits man manifestation of unholy spirits man manifestation of unholy spirits against his ministry. That's my point.

against his ministry. That's my point. against his ministry. That's my point. Okay. Now keep keep going. We're going Okay. Now keep keep going. We're going Okay. Now keep keep going. We're going to we're going to get this. Keep going. >> I love it, man. He's just gloring in. >> I love it, man. He's just gloring in. He's just gloring in the word of the He's just gloring in the word of the He's just gloring in the word of the Lord. So, So, >> watch what he says right here. >> watch what he says right here. >> watch what he says right here. >> Hate on. >> How do I respond to all of your hate and >> How do I respond to all of your hate and your your your >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> ignorance? >> ignorance? >> ignorance? I pray for you. I pray for you. I pray for you. >> That's what Jesus said to me. >> That's what Jesus said to me. >> That's what Jesus said to me. >> Tattoo to my heart. Blessed are those >> Tattoo to my heart. Blessed are those >> Tattoo to my heart. Blessed are those >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> who are persecuted >> who are persecuted >> who are persecuted >> for righteousness sake. >> for righteousness sake. >> for righteousness sake. Rejoice and be exceedingly GLAD FOR Rejoice and be exceedingly GLAD FOR Rejoice and be exceedingly GLAD FOR GREAT IS YOUR REWARD IN HEAVEN. OKAY, GREAT IS YOUR REWARD IN HEAVEN. OKAY, GREAT IS YOUR REWARD IN HEAVEN. OKAY, that that's pause. You're good, Trinity. that that's pause. You're good, Trinity. that that's pause. You're good, Trinity. So, let me just let's talk about this So, let me just let's talk about this So, let me just let's talk about this real quick about um how to think about real quick about um how to think about real quick about um how to think about that when you see it happen and then we that when you see it happen and then we that when you see it happen and then we can chop this up a little bit. Okay, can chop this up a little bit. Okay, can chop this up a little bit. Okay, >> so first of all, let me there's a bunch >> so first of all, let me there's a bunch >> so first of all, let me there's a bunch of pastors that listen to this thing.

of pastors that listen to this thing. of pastors that listen to this thing. >> So, let me just say a couple words to >> So, let me just say a couple words to >> So, let me just say a couple words to pastors and then you guys can chime in pastors and then you guys can chime in pastors and then you guys can chime in and then we can talk to people about and then we can talk to people about and then we can talk to people about dynamics, that kind of thing. So, first dynamics, that kind of thing. So, first dynamics, that kind of thing. So, first of all, if you're a pastor, you you that of all, if you're a pastor, you you that of all, if you're a pastor, you you that verse becomes very real whenever you verse becomes very real whenever you verse becomes very real whenever you know whenever you catch it in the teeth, know whenever you catch it in the teeth, know whenever you catch it in the teeth, you know, it's like you got to go back you know, it's like you got to go back you know, it's like you got to go back to Bible verses and actually do Bible to Bible verses and actually do Bible to Bible verses and actually do Bible verses and have moments where you're verses and have moments where you're verses and have moments where you're like, you know what? like, you know what? like, you know what? >> Hey, Jana, on a long walk, we're going >> Hey, Jana, on a long walk, we're going >> Hey, Jana, on a long walk, we're going to pray for those people by name that to pray for those people by name that to pray for those people by name that God blesses them and we're going to have God blesses them and we're going to have God blesses them and we're going to have a great feast tonight. I've told the a great feast tonight. I've told the a great feast tonight. I've told the story about Jana throwing the thing. I'm story about Jana throwing the thing. I'm story about Jana throwing the thing. I'm not gonna do it again. Okay, you gotta not gonna do it again. Okay, you gotta not gonna do it again. Okay, you gotta do that. Uh, two, I would say this, bro. do that. Uh, two, I would say this, bro. do that. Uh, two, I would say this, bro. Um, pastors got to watch out. And if Um, pastors got to watch out. And if Um, pastors got to watch out. And if you're a pastor, let let me just I'm you're a pastor, let let me just I'm you're a pastor, let let me just I'm gonna give you a gentle watch out. What gonna give you a gentle watch out. What gonna give you a gentle watch out. What I learned, I would say this lesson I learned, I would say this lesson I learned, I would say this lesson became very real to me five years ago, became very real to me five years ago, became very real to me five years ago, >> is that this world has an unspoken >> is that this world has an unspoken >> is that this world has an unspoken agreement with pastors, and here's how agreement with pastors, and here's how agreement with pastors, and here's how it goes. If you take it easy on us, it goes. If you take it easy on us, it goes. If you take it easy on us, we'll take it easy on you. Hm. we'll take it easy on you. Hm. we'll take it easy on you. Hm. >> And it's like as long as you stay safe, >> And it's like as long as you stay safe, >> And it's like as long as you stay safe, >> as long as you take the edge off, as >> as long as you take the edge off, as >> as long as you take the edge off, as long as you kind of like, hey man, those long as you kind of like, hey man, those long as you kind of like, hey man, those things that are, you know, a little more things that are, you know, a little more things that are, you know, a little more controversial, little, you know, you controversial, little, you know, you controversial, little, you know, you know, little more got an edge to them.

know, little more got an edge to them. know, little more got an edge to them. >> If you just nuance all that stuff to >> If you just nuance all that stuff to >> If you just nuance all that stuff to death or avoid that stuff to death or we death or avoid that stuff to death or we death or avoid that stuff to death or we want to be known more for what we're for want to be known more for what we're for want to be known more for what we're for than what we're against, so we actually than what we're against, so we actually than what we're against, so we actually don't ever talk about what we're don't ever talk about what we're don't ever talk about what we're against. If you do that, uh, listen, against. If you do that, uh, listen, against. If you do that, uh, listen, there's an unspoken agreement the world there's an unspoken agreement the world there's an unspoken agreement the world will do with you. You take it easy on will do with you. You take it easy on will do with you. You take it easy on us, we'll take it easy on you. I will us, we'll take it easy on you. I will us, we'll take it easy on you. I will give you a warning as a pastor. Um, the give you a warning as a pastor. Um, the give you a warning as a pastor. Um, the second you decide to break that second you decide to break that second you decide to break that agreement, all of hell will break loose agreement, all of hell will break loose agreement, all of hell will break loose against you. against you. against you. >> But >> But >> But that will also be the beginning of the that will also be the beginning of the that will also be the beginning of the greatest season of your ministry because greatest season of your ministry because greatest season of your ministry because that will also be the moment when all of that will also be the moment when all of that will also be the moment when all of heaven breaks loose in your church. heaven breaks loose in your church. heaven breaks loose in your church. >> So, I I would say that. Couple other >> So, I I would say that. Couple other >> So, I I would say that. Couple other things I would say. Actually, the last things I would say. Actually, the last things I would say. Actually, the last thing I would say is if you're a pastor, thing I would say is if you're a pastor, thing I would say is if you're a pastor, and actually this doesn't just go for and actually this doesn't just go for and actually this doesn't just go for pastors, this goes for Christians. Every pastors, this goes for Christians. Every pastors, this goes for Christians. Every Christian disciple is going to receive Christian disciple is going to receive Christian disciple is going to receive some measure of this. some measure of this. some measure of this. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Okay. Uh you have to decide in your >> Okay. Uh you have to decide in your >> Okay. Uh you have to decide in your heart, bro. This is and there's like heart, bro. This is and there's like heart, bro. This is and there's like there's like tactics to this and I and I there's like tactics to this and I and I there's like tactics to this and I and I hope Philip is doing this. I want to hope Philip is doing this. I want to hope Philip is doing this. I want to meet him someday. I like that guy a lot.

meet him someday. I like that guy a lot. meet him someday. I like that guy a lot. >> You have to decide that you're going to >> You have to decide that you're going to >> You have to decide that you're going to live I've heard it said like this. live I've heard it said like this. live I've heard it said like this. You're going to live thrown down, not You're going to live thrown down, not You're going to live thrown down, not mob up. mob up. mob up. >> Good. So, it's like you got to decide >> Good. So, it's like you got to decide >> Good. So, it's like you got to decide like, "Dude, right now Carlos knows like, "Dude, right now Carlos knows like, "Dude, right now Carlos knows this." Like, people will be like, this." Like, people will be like, this." Like, people will be like, they'll text me like, "Bro, did you see they'll text me like, "Bro, did you see they'll text me like, "Bro, did you see what they said about you?" I'm like, what they said about you?" I'm like, what they said about you?" I'm like, "Actually, no, dude. I had no idea. "Actually, no, dude. I had no idea. "Actually, no, dude. I had no idea. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> Thank you." >> Thank you." >> Thank you." >> I got I had no idea, dude. Cuz I just I >> I got I had no idea, dude. Cuz I just I >> I got I had no idea, dude. Cuz I just I just literally I just don't see any of just literally I just don't see any of just literally I just don't see any of it. it. it. >> Hey, Josh, we're praying for you. Hang >> Hey, Josh, we're praying for you. Hang >> Hey, Josh, we're praying for you. Hang in there. And you're like about what? in there. And you're like about what? in there. And you're like about what? >> Dude, this is Listen, that when Jan and >> Dude, this is Listen, that when Jan and >> Dude, this is Listen, that when Jan and I were on vacation in June, it's like I were on vacation in June, it's like I were on vacation in June, it's like there was like a little It had lasted there was like a little It had lasted there was like a little It had lasted for like three hours. I was getting for like three hours. I was getting for like three hours. I was getting somebody grabbed a clip and took it out somebody grabbed a clip and took it out somebody grabbed a clip and took it out of context of context of context and all the things and all the things and all the things >> and literally it ruined a day of my >> and literally it ruined a day of my >> and literally it ruined a day of my vacation. I had no idea anybody was vacation. I had no idea anybody was vacation. I had no idea anybody was saying anything until like three people saying anything until like three people saying anything until like three people were like, "Hey man, stand strong." I'm were like, "Hey man, stand strong." I'm were like, "Hey man, stand strong." I'm like, "Bro, you just ruined my like, "Bro, you just ruined my like, "Bro, you just ruined my vacation." I didn't even know. vacation." I didn't even know. vacation." I didn't even know. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> Good. Yeah. Good. >> Good. Yeah. Good. >> Good. Yeah. Good. >> Yeah. And that's honestly that's like >> Yeah. And that's honestly that's like >> Yeah. And that's honestly that's like 90%. But you you have to decide. Every 90%. But you you have to decide. Every 90%. But you you have to decide. Every Christian has to decide in your heart Christian has to decide in your heart Christian has to decide in your heart that you're going to keep your eyes on that you're going to keep your eyes on that you're going to keep your eyes on it. You're going to live thrown down. it. You're going to live thrown down. it. You're going to live thrown down. What's the throne want? And then I'm What's the throne want? And then I'm What's the throne want? And then I'm going to do that. If if you get this going to do that. If if you get this going to do that. If if you get this thing where it's like your eyes start thing where it's like your eyes start thing where it's like your eyes start paying real close attention to what the paying real close attention to what the paying real close attention to what the quote unquote they are, if you start quote unquote they are, if you start quote unquote they are, if you start living mob up, that will steer you.

living mob up, that will steer you. living mob up, that will steer you. It'll steer your entire ministry. It'll steer your entire ministry. It'll steer your entire ministry. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> The devil doesn't have to destroy you if >> The devil doesn't have to destroy you if >> The devil doesn't have to destroy you if he can distract you. he can distract you. he can distract you. >> These little little comments here and >> These little little comments here and >> These little little comments here and there, man, that's an easy distraction there, man, that's an easy distraction there, man, that's an easy distraction from what God has called you to do. from what God has called you to do. from what God has called you to do. >> That's it. So good. >> That's it. So good. >> That's it. So good. >> That's the It's the Nehemiah thing of uh >> That's the It's the Nehemiah thing of uh >> That's the It's the Nehemiah thing of uh when Sand Balot and Tobaya when Sand Balot and Tobaya when Sand Balot and Tobaya >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> they come up to Nehemiah while he's >> they come up to Nehemiah while he's >> they come up to Nehemiah while he's building and they're like, "We have building and they're like, "We have building and they're like, "We have these accusations against you. would you these accusations against you. would you these accusations against you. would you respond? He's like, [laughter] his respond? He's like, [laughter] his respond? He's like, [laughter] his response is, nah, I am doing a great response is, nah, I am doing a great response is, nah, I am doing a great work and I cannot come down. work and I cannot come down. work and I cannot come down. >> There you go. >> There you go. >> There you go. >> And so, you know, I do think sometimes >> And so, you know, I do think sometimes >> And so, you know, I do think sometimes if people are ever like, you know, they if people are ever like, you know, they if people are ever like, you know, they see guys like Philip or whoever and see guys like Philip or whoever and see guys like Philip or whoever and they're like, why didn't they respond? they're like, why didn't they respond? they're like, why didn't they respond? Why didn't you respond to that? Why didn't you respond to that? Why didn't you respond to that? >> That's man, I'm doing a great work and I >> That's man, I'm doing a great work and I >> That's man, I'm doing a great work and I cannot come to if if Philip Anthony cannot come to if if Philip Anthony cannot come to if if Philip Anthony Mitchell spent every day responding to Mitchell spent every day responding to Mitchell spent every day responding to the things people are saying about him, the things people are saying about him, the things people are saying about him, >> he wouldn't even have a ministry. >> he wouldn't even have a ministry. >> he wouldn't even have a ministry. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's it. >> That's it. >> That's it. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> Okay. Now, uh you let's do Can we do a >> Okay. Now, uh you let's do Can we do a >> Okay. Now, uh you let's do Can we do a couple This is where it gets a little couple This is where it gets a little couple This is where it gets a little spicy. spicy. spicy. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> A couple things for like for people when >> A couple things for like for people when >> A couple things for like for people when people see these things. Yes. people see these things. Yes. people see these things. Yes. >> Give a couple encouragements. >> Give a couple encouragements. >> Give a couple encouragements. >> First of all, that right there is why we >> First of all, that right there is why we >> First of all, that right there is why we got Bible verses for them for some of got Bible verses for them for some of got Bible verses for them for some of this stuff.

this stuff. this stuff. >> That right there is why 1 Timothy 5:19 >> That right there is why 1 Timothy 5:19 >> That right there is why 1 Timothy 5:19 says, "Do not entertain an accusation says, "Do not entertain an accusation says, "Do not entertain an accusation against an elder unless it is brought by against an elder unless it is brought by against an elder unless it is brought by two or three." This is a really two or three." This is a really two or three." This is a really important word, important word, important word, >> witnesses. [laughter] >> witnesses. [laughter] >> witnesses. [laughter] >> Witnesses, >> Witnesses, >> Witnesses, >> not gossip. >> not gossip. >> not gossip. witnesses witnesses witnesses >> or tweets. >> or tweets. >> or tweets. >> It's not like three people on the >> It's not like three people on the >> It's not like three people on the internet said, you know, it's like three internet said, you know, it's like three internet said, you know, it's like three people. people. people. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Who had firsthand knowledge of the >> Who had firsthand knowledge of the >> Who had firsthand knowledge of the situation. situation. situation. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> That Yeah. That but otherwise don't even >> That Yeah. That but otherwise don't even >> That Yeah. That but otherwise don't even listen. listen. listen. >> Don't even listen to it. You know, that >> Don't even listen to it. You know, that >> Don't even listen to it. You know, that kind of thing. Uh number two, and I I kind of thing. Uh number two, and I I kind of thing. Uh number two, and I I would say Philip pointed this out uh a would say Philip pointed this out uh a would say Philip pointed this out uh a few about a month ago. I thought this few about a month ago. I thought this few about a month ago. I thought this was fire. was fire. was fire. >> So in Acts chapter 2, what you got is uh >> So in Acts chapter 2, what you got is uh >> So in Acts chapter 2, what you got is uh the apostles, they're filled with the the apostles, they're filled with the the apostles, they're filled with the Holy Spirit. They start preaching in Holy Spirit. They start preaching in Holy Spirit. They start preaching in other tongues and onlookers again action other tongues and onlookers again action other tongues and onlookers again action reaction onlookers start going these reaction onlookers start going these reaction onlookers start going these guys are drunk [laughter] guys are drunk [laughter] guys are drunk [laughter] and bro somebody stands up and this is and bro somebody stands up and this is and bro somebody stands up and this is the first thing they say these men are the first thing they say these men are the first thing they say these men are not drunk as you suppose. not drunk as you suppose. not drunk as you suppose. >> Okay man sometimes you know this may >> Okay man sometimes you know this may >> Okay man sometimes you know this may people I'm actually I'm 100% sure people people I'm actually I'm 100% sure people people I'm actually I'm 100% sure people like well that's a very self-serving like well that's a very self-serving like well that's a very self-serving thing to say. Well this is a Bible thing to say. Well this is a Bible thing to say. Well this is a Bible verse. [laughter] verse. [laughter] verse. [laughter] >> This is a Bible verse. Sometimes like it >> This is a Bible verse. Sometimes like it >> This is a Bible verse. Sometimes like it is wrong for you to just passively stand is wrong for you to just passively stand is wrong for you to just passively stand by and watch people lie about pastors by and watch people lie about pastors by and watch people lie about pastors and men of integrity and men of God.

and men of integrity and men of God. and men of integrity and men of God. That is wrong. That is wrong. That is wrong. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Sometimes you have to be the one that >> Sometimes you have to be the one that >> Sometimes you have to be the one that stands up and say these men are not stands up and say these men are not stands up and say these men are not drunk as you accuse. You are lying and drunk as you accuse. You are lying and drunk as you accuse. You are lying and it's wrong for you to lie about these it's wrong for you to lie about these it's wrong for you to lie about these men. men. men. >> So that's something that like in the >> So that's something that like in the >> So that's something that like in the world in which we now live where there world in which we now live where there world in which we now live where there are massive incentive structures. for are massive incentive structures. for are massive incentive structures. for people to like let me just let me get people to like let me just let me get people to like let me just let me get let me try to get internet famous for 8 let me try to get internet famous for 8 let me try to get internet famous for 8 minutes about this like minutes about this like minutes about this like >> you need to be somebody who goes no I >> you need to be somebody who goes no I >> you need to be somebody who goes no I will not just stand there and let you will not just stand there and let you will not just stand there and let you lie about my my pastor you should not do lie about my my pastor you should not do lie about my my pastor you should not do that that that >> you should what I would say is you >> you should what I would say is you >> you should what I would say is you should not be ignorant of the devil's should not be ignorant of the devil's should not be ignorant of the devil's schemes schemes schemes >> yes >> yes >> yes >> so it's really interesting man um the >> so it's really interesting man um the >> so it's really interesting man um the word English word devil comes from the word English word devil comes from the word English word devil comes from the Greek word diabolos it literally means Greek word diabolos it literally means Greek word diabolos it literally means say no say no say no >> slander >> slander >> slander >> slanderer >> slanderer >> slanderer >> it means slanderer >> it means slanderer >> it means slanderer So dude, what what I will say is like, So dude, what what I will say is like, So dude, what what I will say is like, hey man, we need to have like we should hey man, we need to have like we should hey man, we need to have like we should not be idiots. not be idiots. not be idiots. >> Hey man, if they did it to Jesus >> Hey man, if they did it to Jesus >> Hey man, if they did it to Jesus >> and they did it to Paul and his name is >> and they did it to Paul and his name is >> and they did it to Paul and his name is a slanderer, what you should expect a slanderer, what you should expect a slanderer, what you should expect >> is that throughout all of church >> is that throughout all of church >> is that throughout all of church history, um, yes, people are going to history, um, yes, people are going to history, um, yes, people are going to lie about uh minister constantly, lie about uh minister constantly, lie about uh minister constantly, >> constantly. The whole world lies under >> constantly. The whole world lies under >> constantly. The whole world lies under the power of the of the uh of of the the power of the of the uh of of the the power of the of the uh of of the devil. Okay. [gasps] So, I'll just we devil. Okay. [gasps] So, I'll just we devil. Okay. [gasps] So, I'll just we already read the ones about Paul. Do already read the ones about Paul. Do already read the ones about Paul. Do people don't think people do not think people don't think people do not think people don't think people do not think about this?

about this? about this? >> That was the tactic of the Pharisees >> That was the tactic of the Pharisees >> That was the tactic of the Pharisees against Jesus against Jesus against Jesus >> was to lie about him to discredit >> was to lie about him to discredit >> was to lie about him to discredit people's trust in him. Remember what people's trust in him. Remember what people's trust in him. Remember what they did? Uh they said, uh, you know they did? Uh they said, uh, you know they did? Uh they said, uh, you know what this guy is? This guy is he's what this guy is? This guy is he's what this guy is? This guy is he's always he's at meals all the time, always he's at meals all the time, always he's at meals all the time, >> partying, >> partying, >> partying, >> party time. This guy is a glutton and a >> party time. This guy is a glutton and a >> party time. This guy is a glutton and a drunkard and a friend of tax collectors drunkard and a friend of tax collectors drunkard and a friend of tax collectors and sinners. Look at the look at these and sinners. Look at the look at these and sinners. Look at the look at these shady people he associates with. shady people he associates with. shady people he associates with. >> Look at the you know so what what were >> Look at the you know so what what were >> Look at the you know so what what were they that's they were just publicly they that's they were just publicly they that's they were just publicly slandering. Watch this. You'll notice slandering. Watch this. You'll notice slandering. Watch this. You'll notice this especially guys like Philip Anthony this especially guys like Philip Anthony this especially guys like Philip Anthony Mitchell. The tactic is not to argue Mitchell. The tactic is not to argue Mitchell. The tactic is not to argue against the Bible teaching. Dude, this against the Bible teaching. Dude, this against the Bible teaching. Dude, this is really important. The tactic is not is really important. The tactic is not is really important. The tactic is not to argue against the Bible teaching to argue against the Bible teaching to argue against the Bible teaching because Satan knows that's a losing because Satan knows that's a losing because Satan knows that's a losing strategy. The tactic then becomes let's strategy. The tactic then becomes let's strategy. The tactic then becomes let's just try to discredit and problematize just try to discredit and problematize just try to discredit and problematize the Bible teachers. Yes, the Bible teachers. Yes, the Bible teachers. Yes, >> that becomes the strategy. >> that becomes the strategy. >> that becomes the strategy. >> Yeah. One I I'll some of this is >> Yeah. One I I'll some of this is >> Yeah. One I I'll some of this is summarizing what you've said, but maybe summarizing what you've said, but maybe summarizing what you've said, but maybe it's just helpful to hear from someone it's just helpful to hear from someone it's just helpful to hear from someone that's not you because I know somebody that's not you because I know somebody that's not you because I know somebody like, "Oh, this is self- serving to your like, "Oh, this is self- serving to your like, "Oh, this is self- serving to your point. It's not self-s serving. You're point. It's not self-s serving. You're point. It's not self-s serving. You're just quoting Bible verses." But let me just quoting Bible verses." But let me just quoting Bible verses." But let me summarize what the Bible the tension summarize what the Bible the tension summarize what the Bible the tension that's in the Bible. One is that God that's in the Bible. One is that God that's in the Bible. One is that God takes the character and the conduct of takes the character and the conduct of takes the character and the conduct of his servants and his leaders very his servants and his leaders very his servants and his leaders very seriously.

seriously. seriously. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Very seriously. >> Very seriously. >> Very seriously. >> And that's true in the Old Testament. >> And that's true in the Old Testament. >> And that's true in the Old Testament. And then in the New Testament, the And then in the New Testament, the And then in the New Testament, the qualification for elders is that we are qualification for elders is that we are qualification for elders is that we are to be above reproach and they be to be to be above reproach and they be to be to be above reproach and they be to be men of character. In fact, if you go men of character. In fact, if you go men of character. In fact, if you go look at the list of the elder look at the list of the elder look at the list of the elder qualifications, there's only one thing qualifications, there's only one thing qualifications, there's only one thing that's listed as a skill and that's the that's listed as a skill and that's the that's listed as a skill and that's the ability to teach. ability to teach. ability to teach. >> Everything else is character. So, just >> Everything else is character. So, just >> Everything else is character. So, just to reiterate what you've already said, to reiterate what you've already said, to reiterate what you've already said, we are not saying that pastors are we are not saying that pastors are we are not saying that pastors are perfect or they shouldn't be held perfect or they shouldn't be held perfect or they shouldn't be held accountable. No, God takes the character accountable. No, God takes the character accountable. No, God takes the character and the conduct of his servants very and the conduct of his servants very and the conduct of his servants very seriously. And he takes accusations and seriously. And he takes accusations and seriously. And he takes accusations and slanders against their contact that are slanders against their contact that are slanders against their contact that are unsubstantiated and untrue very unsubstantiated and untrue very unsubstantiated and untrue very seriously. Go look in the Old Testament, seriously. Go look in the Old Testament, seriously. Go look in the Old Testament, a guy named Jameson and Janice. Go look a guy named Jameson and Janice. Go look a guy named Jameson and Janice. Go look in the New Testament of other people. in the New Testament of other people. in the New Testament of other people. God takes that seriously. Why are those God takes that seriously. Why are those God takes that seriously. Why are those two things taken seriously? Because if two things taken seriously? Because if two things taken seriously? Because if I'm the enemy, I might have two tactics. I'm the enemy, I might have two tactics. I'm the enemy, I might have two tactics. One is can I get the leader to fall? One is can I get the leader to fall? One is can I get the leader to fall? >> That's a great strategy. But if that's >> That's a great strategy. But if that's >> That's a great strategy. But if that's not going to work, can I so distrust in not going to work, can I so distrust in not going to work, can I so distrust in that leader? that leader? that leader? >> Yeah, that's right. And so you just got >> Yeah, that's right. And so you just got >> Yeah, that's right. And so you just got to be that's what we're we're not saying to be that's what we're we're not saying to be that's what we're we're not saying that oh we shouldn't take the character that oh we shouldn't take the character that oh we shouldn't take the character of our leaders including our pastor said of our leaders including our pastor said of our leaders including our pastor said we should but also we have to be aware we should but also we have to be aware we should but also we have to be aware that we should take false accusations that we should take false accusations that we should take false accusations against them just as seriously because against them just as seriously because against them just as seriously because that is how the enemy can so distrust in that is how the enemy can so distrust in that is how the enemy can so distrust in them distrust in his word and it can them distrust in his word and it can them distrust in his word and it can stop the movement of his spirit in this stop the movement of his spirit in this stop the movement of his spirit in this world.

world. world. >> And so that that is true both. So >> And so that that is true both. So >> And so that that is true both. So therefore we got to be very careful therefore we got to be very careful therefore we got to be very careful about what we share and about what we about what we share and about what we about what we share and about what we immediately just believe others are immediately just believe others are immediately just believe others are saying. And also to your point, that saying. And also to your point, that saying. And also to your point, that means that if we hear stuff that is means that if we hear stuff that is means that if we hear stuff that is patently untrue, we got to be fire patently untrue, we got to be fire patently untrue, we got to be fire suppressors and put out that fire and suppressors and put out that fire and suppressors and put out that fire and say, "No, no, no, that's not true." say, "No, no, no, that's not true." say, "No, no, no, that's not true." Because to your point, we don't want to Because to your point, we don't want to Because to your point, we don't want to fall into any of the enemy schemes. I fall into any of the enemy schemes. I fall into any of the enemy schemes. I just wanted to say that and summarize just wanted to say that and summarize just wanted to say that and summarize that because I think people like need to that because I think people like need to that because I think people like need to know this is a serious thing. know this is a serious thing. know this is a serious thing. >> Yeah. This is a serious thing. >> Yeah. This is a serious thing. >> Yeah. This is a serious thing. >> Yeah. I uh man, I I really appreciate >> Yeah. I uh man, I I really appreciate >> Yeah. I uh man, I I really appreciate Pastor uh Philip Anthony Mitchell's Pastor uh Philip Anthony Mitchell's Pastor uh Philip Anthony Mitchell's passion to share the gospel. Like he's passion to share the gospel. Like he's passion to share the gospel. Like he's just it's it's impressive. It's just it's it's impressive. It's just it's it's impressive. It's inspiring. Um I love that he's in inspiring. Um I love that he's in inspiring. Um I love that he's in addition to leading a church which is addition to leading a church which is addition to leading a church which is already a huge burden uh he's taking already a huge burden uh he's taking already a huge burden uh he's taking some time to go on tour uh share the some time to go on tour uh share the some time to go on tour uh share the gospel literally all over the place. Um gospel literally all over the place. Um gospel literally all over the place. Um it reminds me of this obviously some it reminds me of this obviously some it reminds me of this obviously some people don't like the methods and you people don't like the methods and you people don't like the methods and you know this is just the way the world know this is just the way the world know this is just the way the world works today when people share their works today when people share their works today when people share their opinions that they don't like this or opinions that they don't like this or opinions that they don't like this or that. Reminds me of this quote that is that. Reminds me of this quote that is that. Reminds me of this quote that is attributed to D Moody and he said uh he attributed to D Moody and he said uh he attributed to D Moody and he said uh he said this. He said it is clear you don't said this. He said it is clear you don't said this. He said it is clear you don't like my way of doing evangelism. You like my way of doing evangelism. You like my way of doing evangelism. You raised some good points. Frankly, I raised some good points. Frankly, I raised some good points. Frankly, I sometimes do not like my way of doing sometimes do not like my way of doing sometimes do not like my way of doing evangelism, but I like my way of doing evangelism, but I like my way of doing evangelism, but I like my way of doing it better than your way of not doing it.

it better than your way of not doing it. it better than your way of not doing it. >> Boom. [laughter] >> Boom. [laughter] >> Boom. [laughter] >> So again, >> So again, >> So again, >> again, man, I will say, and I say this >> again, man, I will say, and I say this >> again, man, I will say, and I say this with love, man, if you don't like the with love, man, if you don't like the with love, man, if you don't like the way somebody else is doing evangelism, way somebody else is doing evangelism, way somebody else is doing evangelism, uh I we sure like the way he's doing uh I we sure like the way he's doing uh I we sure like the way he's doing evangelism more evangelism more than the evangelism more evangelism more than the evangelism more evangelism more than the way you are not doing evangelism. That's way you are not doing evangelism. That's way you are not doing evangelism. That's right. right. right. >> Uh we're we're also I'll say this too. >> Uh we're we're also I'll say this too. >> Uh we're we're also I'll say this too. We're also a generation that we're quick We're also a generation that we're quick We're also a generation that we're quick to to speak and slow to listen. Jesus to to speak and slow to listen. Jesus to to speak and slow to listen. Jesus said in Matthew 12 uh verse 36, I tell said in Matthew 12 uh verse 36, I tell said in Matthew 12 uh verse 36, I tell you on the day of judgment, people will you on the day of judgment, people will you on the day of judgment, people will give account for every careless word give account for every careless word give account for every careless word they speak. For by your words you will they speak. For by your words you will they speak. For by your words you will be justified and by your words you will be justified and by your words you will be justified and by your words you will be condemned. Man, be careful what words be condemned. Man, be careful what words be condemned. Man, be careful what words you are speaking. you are speaking. you are speaking. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Uh whether it is on a tweet or in >> Uh whether it is on a tweet or in >> Uh whether it is on a tweet or in person, um God's going to hold you person, um God's going to hold you person, um God's going to hold you accountable for that. accountable for that. accountable for that. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Uh and then last thing again, when you >> Uh and then last thing again, when you >> Uh and then last thing again, when you see unhelpful criticism, pray for your see unhelpful criticism, pray for your see unhelpful criticism, pray for your pastor. pastor. pastor. >> Yes. Uh bro, people don't realize this >> Yes. Uh bro, people don't realize this >> Yes. Uh bro, people don't realize this is not just like a cliche. I'm thinking is not just like a cliche. I'm thinking is not just like a cliche. I'm thinking about you. Like there is power in about you. Like there is power in about you. Like there is power in prayer. Pray pray for humility. Pray for prayer. Pray pray for humility. Pray for prayer. Pray pray for humility. Pray for confidence. Uh pray for sober confidence. Uh pray for sober confidence. Uh pray for sober mindedness. Pray for focus. It is really mindedness. Pray for focus. It is really mindedness. Pray for focus. It is really easy to get distracted. Um also, man, I easy to get distracted. Um also, man, I easy to get distracted. Um also, man, I will say this. Uh and I'll say this. You will say this. Uh and I'll say this. You will say this. Uh and I'll say this. You didn't ask me to say this, but Josh, I didn't ask me to say this, but Josh, I didn't ask me to say this, but Josh, I get to see the behind the scenes. Uh get to see the behind the scenes. Uh get to see the behind the scenes. Uh you're the senior pastor of Lake Church.

you're the senior pastor of Lake Church. you're the senior pastor of Lake Church. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It is. Uh it's a lot of work. >> It is. Uh it's a lot of work. >> It is. Uh it's a lot of work. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Just that one thing. It is a lot of >> Just that one thing. It is a lot of >> Just that one thing. It is a lot of work, bro. And I've seen your uh I've work, bro. And I've seen your uh I've work, bro. And I've seen your uh I've seen how hard you work to not do seen how hard you work to not do seen how hard you work to not do something mediocrely, but you give it something mediocrely, but you give it something mediocrely, but you give it all you got. Uh you prepare a lot as you all you got. Uh you prepare a lot as you all you got. Uh you prepare a lot as you preach. I've seen you sermon prep. Um preach. I've seen you sermon prep. Um preach. I've seen you sermon prep. Um I've seen I've seen you meet with I've seen I've seen you meet with I've seen I've seen you meet with people. I see you pray for people every people. I see you pray for people every people. I see you pray for people every single weekend. Bro, sometimes I'm single weekend. Bro, sometimes I'm single weekend. Bro, sometimes I'm surprised like we got a couple like surprised like we got a couple like surprised like we got a couple like those lines are getting longer and those lines are getting longer and those lines are getting longer and longer and longer. There's there's been longer and longer. There's there's been longer and longer. There's there's been a point where I'm like in the office, a point where I'm like in the office, a point where I'm like in the office, you know, I'm heading out and I'm you know, I'm heading out and I'm you know, I'm heading out and I'm heading out late, by the way, and you're heading out late, by the way, and you're heading out late, by the way, and you're still there and there's a huge line and still there and there's a huge line and still there and there's a huge line and it's literally you praying for people. it's literally you praying for people. it's literally you praying for people. And not only that, I will say this, when And not only that, I will say this, when And not only that, I will say this, when I see you engage with people, I see you engage with people, I see you engage with people, >> but the first person that you engage >> but the first person that you engage >> but the first person that you engage with, you're all like excited. The last with, you're all like excited. The last with, you're all like excited. The last person that you engage with, it's the person that you engage with, it's the person that you engage with, it's the same type of enthusiasm, energy, same type of enthusiasm, energy, same type of enthusiasm, energy, passion, your pray. And so, uh, people passion, your pray. And so, uh, people passion, your pray. And so, uh, people don't see that that's a sacrifice on don't see that that's a sacrifice on don't see that that's a sacrifice on your part. Uh people think it's just your part. Uh people think it's just your part. Uh people think it's just really easy to get on that stage and really easy to get on that stage and really easy to get on that stage and preach uh for multiple campuses. Again, preach uh for multiple campuses. Again, preach uh for multiple campuses. Again, I could keep going on and on and on, I could keep going on and on and on, I could keep going on and on and on, man, but I will say this. Uh we're man, but I will say this. Uh we're man, but I will say this. Uh we're praying for you for a reason.

praying for you for a reason. praying for you for a reason. >> And man, I would invite people that >> And man, I would invite people that >> And man, I would invite people that whenever I know this, we're talking whenever I know this, we're talking whenever I know this, we're talking about pastors in general, but man, pray about pastors in general, but man, pray about pastors in general, but man, pray for your pastor, man. It's a blessing to for your pastor, man. It's a blessing to for your pastor, man. It's a blessing to them. them. them. >> Thank you for saying that. That means a >> Thank you for saying that. That means a >> Thank you for saying that. That means a lot to me. Thank you. lot to me. Thank you. lot to me. Thank you. >> Like, anybody ever giving you a piece of >> Like, anybody ever giving you a piece of >> Like, anybody ever giving you a piece of feedback or criticism that you're like, feedback or criticism that you're like, feedback or criticism that you're like, "Oh, you know what? You're actually "Oh, you know what? You're actually "Oh, you know what? You're actually right." right." right." >> Oh, bro. Constantly. >> Oh, bro. Constantly. >> Oh, bro. Constantly. Seriously, constantly, you know, I uh Seriously, constantly, you know, I uh Seriously, constantly, you know, I uh there's like a whole there's a there's a there's like a whole there's a there's a there's like a whole there's a there's a team of people now that I just way back team of people now that I just way back team of people now that I just way back then I was like, "Hey, man, if you ever then I was like, "Hey, man, if you ever then I was like, "Hey, man, if you ever hear something in in the first message hear something in in the first message hear something in in the first message that you're like, ah, I I would say that that you're like, ah, I I would say that that you're like, ah, I I would say that different." It's like they're they're different." It's like they're they're different." It's like they're they're deputized. You know, there there have deputized. You know, there there have deputized. You know, there there have been times, I won't tell the examples, been times, I won't tell the examples, been times, I won't tell the examples, there have been times where a little there have been times where a little there have been times where a little internet mobbing and I was like, "Well, internet mobbing and I was like, "Well, internet mobbing and I was like, "Well, dad gum it. Dang it. I can actually dad gum it. Dang it. I can actually dad gum it. Dang it. I can actually totally see how that came off the wrong totally see how that came off the wrong totally see how that came off the wrong way." You [laughter] just kind of you way." You [laughter] just kind of you way." You [laughter] just kind of you just try to shift. People forget, hey just try to shift. People forget, hey just try to shift. People forget, hey man, like Philip, he didn't do anything man, like Philip, he didn't do anything man, like Philip, he didn't do anything wrong, by the way. wrong, by the way. wrong, by the way. >> But hey, dude, this is like pastors are >> But hey, dude, this is like pastors are >> But hey, dude, this is like pastors are pastors are people in need of grace, pastors are people in need of grace, pastors are people in need of grace, too. Like, hey man, we got Yeah. Let's too. Like, hey man, we got Yeah. Let's too. Like, hey man, we got Yeah. Let's learn. Let's grow as disciples. Let's learn. Let's grow as disciples. Let's learn. Let's grow as disciples. Let's get better. Let's move. get better. Let's move. get better. Let's move. >> So, 100%, man. >> So, 100%, man. >> So, 100%, man. >> That's awesome. Well, >> That's awesome. Well, >> That's awesome. Well, >> Lord bless Philip Anthony Mitchell.

>> Lord bless Philip Anthony Mitchell. >> Lord bless Philip Anthony Mitchell. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> In Jesus name. Amen. Amen. I'm going >> In Jesus name. Amen. Amen. I'm going >> In Jesus name. Amen. Amen. I'm going home with my family. They're free, home with my family. They're free, home with my family. They're free, brother. They're free. Thanks.