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will go to Israel." will go to Israel." >> Oh my gosh, I can't believe y'all did >> Oh my gosh, I can't believe y'all did >> Oh my gosh, I can't believe y'all did that. that. that. >> Oh, man. That's a That's a team right >> Oh, man. That's a That's a team right >> Oh, man. That's a That's a team right here. That was That was definitely the here. That was That was definitely the here. That was That was definitely the team. team. team. >> Shout out Paul. >> Shout out Paul. >> Shout out Paul. >> Amen. >> Amen. >> Amen. >> You're here in in spirit, my friend. >> You're here in in spirit, my friend. >> You're here in in spirit, my friend. >> Paul, love that you're here. Thank you >> Paul, love that you're here. Thank you >> Paul, love that you're here. Thank you for joining us today, for joining us today, for joining us today, >> bro. That's hysterical right there. Hey, >> bro. That's hysterical right there. Hey, >> bro. That's hysterical right there. Hey, so here's what we're gonna do in the so here's what we're gonna do in the so here's what we're gonna do in the next few minutes. By the way, I'm just next few minutes. By the way, I'm just next few minutes. By the way, I'm just gonna give you a heads up. We're gonna gonna give you a heads up. We're gonna gonna give you a heads up. We're gonna uh we're gonna uh we're we're gonna uh we're gonna uh we're we're gonna uh we're gonna uh we're we're gonna speedrun this thing. We're gonna try to speedrun this thing. We're gonna try to speedrun this thing. We're gonna try to speedrun this thing because we have I'm speedrun this thing because we have I'm speedrun this thing because we have I'm pretty geeked out about it. We have like pretty geeked out about it. We have like pretty geeked out about it. We have like one of my favorite authors period coming one of my favorite authors period coming one of my favorite authors period coming in uh Raymond Ibrahim to do a I think in uh Raymond Ibrahim to do a I think in uh Raymond Ibrahim to do a I think it'll probably end up being a bonus it'll probably end up being a bonus it'll probably end up being a bonus episode if I had to guess. Uh episode if I had to guess. Uh episode if I had to guess. Uh >> very likely. >> very likely. >> very likely. >> Yeah. Talking about uh some Islam stuff. >> Yeah. Talking about uh some Islam stuff. >> Yeah. Talking about uh some Islam stuff. Dude, do you know who this guy is? Dude, do you know who this guy is? Dude, do you know who this guy is? >> I've I've seen it, but I I've just heard >> I've I've seen it, but I I've just heard >> I've I've seen it, but I I've just heard you talk about his books. you talk about his books. you talk about his books. >> Okay. So, like I Dude, I So, little >> Okay. So, like I Dude, I So, little >> Okay. So, like I Dude, I So, little backstory. I sleep terrible. I wake up backstory. I sleep terrible. I wake up backstory. I sleep terrible. I wake up from like usually two to four am like. from like usually two to four am like. from like usually two to four am like. So what I do is to try I read myself So what I do is to try I read myself So what I do is to try I read myself back to sleep. I read military history. back to sleep. I read military history. back to sleep. I read military history. So a few years ago, dude, I pick up this So a few years ago, dude, I pick up this So a few years ago, dude, I pick up this book, Sword and Scitar, and it's Raymond book, Sword and Scitar, and it's Raymond book, Sword and Scitar, and it's Raymond Ibrahim. He's an Egyptian Coptic Ibrahim. He's an Egyptian Coptic Ibrahim. He's an Egyptian Coptic Christian who uh I don't want to I don't Christian who uh I don't want to I don't Christian who uh I don't want to I don't want to spoil anything. Uh that he stud want to spoil anything. Uh that he stud want to spoil anything. Uh that he stud he did Arabic studies at Georgetown he did Arabic studies at Georgetown he did Arabic studies at Georgetown >> during 911. He's in the back stacks of >> during 911. He's in the back stacks of >> during 911. He's in the back stacks of he gets a job at the Library of he gets a job at the Library of he gets a job at the Library of Congress. He's in the back stacks. I Congress. He's in the back stacks. I Congress. He's in the back stacks. I remember when this happened. Like I remember when this happened. Like I remember when this happened. Like I remember him first being in the news.

remember him first being in the news. remember him first being in the news. He's in the back stacks of uh the He's in the back stacks of uh the He's in the back stacks of uh the Library of Congress where he's got Library of Congress where he's got Library of Congress where he's got access to stuff nobody else got access access to stuff nobody else got access access to stuff nobody else got access to. So then Bin Laden back in the day. to. So then Bin Laden back in the day. to. So then Bin Laden back in the day. Do you know who that is? You're like 19 Do you know who that is? You're like 19 Do you know who that is? You're like 19 years old. years old. years old. >> No, I I I was there. >> No, I I I was there. >> No, I I I was there. >> Okay. Good. All right. >> Okay. Good. All right. >> Okay. Good. All right. >> Like alive, I mean. >> Like alive, I mean. >> Like alive, I mean. >> Oh, good. All right. How old were you in >> Oh, good. All right. How old were you in >> Oh, good. All right. How old were you in in 2001? in 2001? in 2001? >> I'm pretty sure I was in fourth grade. >> I'm pretty sure I was in fourth grade. >> I'm pretty sure I was in fourth grade. >> That's awesome. Okay. >> That's awesome. Okay. >> That's awesome. Okay. >> Yeah. You >> Yeah. You >> Yeah. You >> I was like 37. >> I was like 37. >> I was like 37. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, Bin Laden, okay, we got to get >> Okay. So, Bin Laden, okay, we got to get >> Okay. So, Bin Laden, okay, we got to get past this, but I do want to set this up past this, but I do want to set this up past this, but I do want to set this up because I'm pretty geeked out about it. because I'm pretty geeked out about it. because I'm pretty geeked out about it. Bin Laden was sending communication to Bin Laden was sending communication to Bin Laden was sending communication to like, you know, some pretty like like, you know, some pretty like like, you know, some pretty like progressive media outlets throughout the progressive media outlets throughout the progressive media outlets throughout the world, BBC, American news outlets about world, BBC, American news outlets about world, BBC, American news outlets about like, hey, these attacks are because of like, hey, these attacks are because of like, hey, these attacks are because of American colonialism and your racist American colonialism and your racist American colonialism and your racist genocide. And dude, honestly, a bunch of genocide. And dude, honestly, a bunch of genocide. And dude, honestly, a bunch of media outlets just ran with it. So this media outlets just ran with it. So this media outlets just ran with it. So this dude Raymond Ibrahim, Arabic studies, dude Raymond Ibrahim, Arabic studies, dude Raymond Ibrahim, Arabic studies, Egyptian Coptic Christian, he stumbles Egyptian Coptic Christian, he stumbles Egyptian Coptic Christian, he stumbles across in the back stacks of Library of across in the back stacks of Library of across in the back stacks of Library of Congress, the Arab, the actual Arabic Congress, the Arab, the actual Arabic Congress, the Arab, the actual Arabic communication that Bin Laden was sending communication that Bin Laden was sending communication that Bin Laden was sending to other Muslim groups. And it's the to other Muslim groups. And it's the to other Muslim groups. And it's the exact opposite of what he's sending to exact opposite of what he's sending to exact opposite of what he's sending to all these media outlets. It's all these media outlets. It's all these media outlets. It's essentially like, hey, we're doing this essentially like, hey, we're doing this essentially like, hey, we're doing this cuz we're supposed to kill the infidels.

cuz we're supposed to kill the infidels. cuz we're supposed to kill the infidels. that like so then he comes on the scene, that like so then he comes on the scene, that like so then he comes on the scene, Ibrahim did uh because he wrote a book Ibrahim did uh because he wrote a book Ibrahim did uh because he wrote a book called the al-Qaeda reader called the al-Qaeda reader called the al-Qaeda reader >> where he was like, "Hey guys, here's >> where he was like, "Hey guys, here's >> where he was like, "Hey guys, here's what they're actually doing." And he what they're actually doing." And he what they're actually doing." And he because he read, he translated all of because he read, he translated all of because he read, he translated all of it. So then he blows up on the scene. So it. So then he blows up on the scene. So it. So then he blows up on the scene. So then he So he's in America. So for then he So he's in America. So for then he So he's in America. So for podcast listeners, I promise we're going podcast listeners, I promise we're going podcast listeners, I promise we're going to get to the podcast here in a second. to get to the podcast here in a second. to get to the podcast here in a second. He I'm just geeking out that we get a He I'm just geeking out that we get a He I'm just geeking out that we get a half a mile. He's he's in America and he half a mile. He's he's in America and he half a mile. He's he's in America and he starts noticing that all these he he starts noticing that all these he he starts noticing that all these he he would never say this, but like all these would never say this, but like all these would never say this, but like all these dumb Americans, they're teaching all dumb Americans, they're teaching all dumb Americans, they're teaching all their kids that the Crusades were just their kids that the Crusades were just their kids that the Crusades were just evil, racist, genocidal Christians that evil, racist, genocidal Christians that evil, racist, genocidal Christians that just attacked a bunch of Muslims for no just attacked a bunch of Muslims for no just attacked a bunch of Muslims for no reason because they're evil, racist, reason because they're evil, racist, reason because they're evil, racist, genocide, coloniz. And because his whole genocide, coloniz. And because his whole genocide, coloniz. And because his whole thing is I think he did his senior thing is I think he did his senior thing is I think he did his senior dissertation on the battle of Yarmmulk dissertation on the battle of Yarmmulk dissertation on the battle of Yarmmulk or something like that. That was the or something like that. That was the or something like that. That was the first Muslim conquest. So anyway, his first Muslim conquest. So anyway, his first Muslim conquest. So anyway, his whole thing is knowing the first five whole thing is knowing the first five whole thing is knowing the first five centuries of and he's like he notices centuries of and he's like he notices centuries of and he's like he notices what America is telling all their kids.

what America is telling all their kids. what America is telling all their kids. And he writes this book going, "Hey And he writes this book going, "Hey And he writes this book going, "Hey everybody, everything you're being everybody, everything you're being everybody, everything you're being taught about the Crusades is a lie. taught about the Crusades is a lie. taught about the Crusades is a lie. Here's what actually happened." So I Here's what actually happened." So I Here's what actually happened." So I read this guy. It's about the first five read this guy. It's about the first five read this guy. It's about the first five centuries of uh Muslim conquest leading centuries of uh Muslim conquest leading centuries of uh Muslim conquest leading up to the Crusades. And then Defenders up to the Crusades. And then Defenders up to the Crusades. And then Defenders of the West. And this is a hardcore of the West. And this is a hardcore of the West. And this is a hardcore book, dude. That's crazy. It's just it's book, dude. That's crazy. It's just it's book, dude. That's crazy. It's just it's 10 little vignettes of these guys that 10 little vignettes of these guys that 10 little vignettes of these guys that were essentially the Christian men that were essentially the Christian men that were essentially the Christian men that defended the Christian West against uh defended the Christian West against uh defended the Christian West against uh Muslim. So anyway, that's amazing. Muslim. So anyway, that's amazing. Muslim. So anyway, that's amazing. >> I'm I'm pretty geeky. We got to speed >> I'm I'm pretty geeky. We got to speed >> I'm I'm pretty geeky. We got to speed around this thing. around this thing. around this thing. >> That's right. That's right, man. We're >> That's right. That's right, man. We're >> That's right. That's right, man. We're going to have a great episode today. going to have a great episode today. going to have a great episode today. We're going to go Hebrews chapter 12. We're going to go Hebrews chapter 12. We're going to go Hebrews chapter 12. >> Uh because we're coming off of week one >> Uh because we're coming off of week one >> Uh because we're coming off of week one of At the Movies. We're going to be of At the Movies. We're going to be of At the Movies. We're going to be asking, "Hey, Pastor Josh, how do you asking, "Hey, Pastor Josh, how do you asking, "Hey, Pastor Josh, how do you run the Christian race faithfully? What run the Christian race faithfully? What run the Christian race faithfully? What are some watch out pitfalls and are some watch out pitfalls and are some watch out pitfalls and temptations? You have a lot of wisdom temptations? You have a lot of wisdom temptations? You have a lot of wisdom here to share in just a second. I want I here to share in just a second. I want I here to share in just a second. I want I want to ask you as well. Why do some want to ask you as well. Why do some want to ask you as well. Why do some Christian leaders make it and then Christian leaders make it and then Christian leaders make it and then others fail very publicly? And then uh others fail very publicly? And then uh others fail very publicly? And then uh at some point also I think you will be at some point also I think you will be at some point also I think you will be exposing some megaurch pastors today in exposing some megaurch pastors today in exposing some megaurch pastors today in this episode. Uh and you're going to be this episode. Uh and you're going to be this episode. Uh and you're going to be sharing some things that most people sharing some things that most people sharing some things that most people don't know. don't know. don't know. >> There are some things that need >> There are some things that need >> There are some things that need exposing.

exposing. exposing. >> That's right. We also have an air war >> That's right. We also have an air war >> That's right. We also have an air war segment where we're going to be reacting segment where we're going to be reacting segment where we're going to be reacting to a video where we have vice president to a video where we have vice president to a video where we have vice president JD Van sit down with Ross Da. JD Van sit down with Ross Da. JD Van sit down with Ross Da. >> Yeah, we we debated on how to pronounce >> Yeah, we we debated on how to pronounce >> Yeah, we we debated on how to pronounce this. I've been watching and reading this. I've been watching and reading this. I've been watching and reading Ross for a long time. I've read his I've Ross for a long time. I've read his I've Ross for a long time. I've read his I've actually read his book like a long time actually read his book like a long time actually read his book like a long time ago. ago. ago. >> Doubt this. >> Doubt this. >> Doubt this. >> Yeah. Something about religion being and >> Yeah. Something about religion being and >> Yeah. Something about religion being and heretics. heretics. heretics. >> Uh yeah, I appreciate it. >> Uh yeah, I appreciate it. >> Uh yeah, I appreciate it. >> He's a Catholic guy, works for the New >> He's a Catholic guy, works for the New >> He's a Catholic guy, works for the New York Times. So, the reason I want to York Times. So, the reason I want to York Times. So, the reason I want to talk about this is he honestly he makes talk about this is he honestly he makes talk about this is he honestly he makes some good points and he so I'm going to some good points and he so I'm going to some good points and he so I'm going to pull our punch. He did this interview pull our punch. He did this interview pull our punch. He did this interview with JD Vance. It was like super with JD Vance. It was like super with JD Vance. It was like super interesting where he went, "Hey man, I interesting where he went, "Hey man, I interesting where he went, "Hey man, I know that you guys are like saying that know that you guys are like saying that know that you guys are like saying that you're legislating like some Christian you're legislating like some Christian you're legislating like some Christian things. Thank you you know cuz Ross is a things. Thank you you know cuz Ross is a things. Thank you you know cuz Ross is a Catholic Christian Catholic Christian Catholic Christian >> but he went there's three ways I'm just >> but he went there's three ways I'm just >> but he went there's three ways I'm just going to tell you where he's going going to tell you where he's going going to tell you where he's going because it's actually really because it's actually really because it's actually really interesting. interesting. interesting. >> Uh because when he said it I watched it >> Uh because when he said it I watched it >> Uh because when he said it I watched it I was like I wonder what's true and I was like I wonder what's true and I was like I wonder what's true and what's not about that because he he said what's not about that because he he said what's not about that because he he said three things. He said there are three three things. He said there are three three things. He said there are three things you're doing that are explicit things you're doing that are explicit things you're doing that are explicit not Christian and he said um you just not Christian and he said um you just not Christian and he said um you just gutted USA ID so you know foreign aid uh gutted USA ID so you know foreign aid uh gutted USA ID so you know foreign aid uh welfare and humanitarian aid. Uh he said welfare and humanitarian aid. Uh he said welfare and humanitarian aid. Uh he said you're distancing yourself in some ways you're distancing yourself in some ways you're distancing yourself in some ways from the uh abortion thing, pro-life from the uh abortion thing, pro-life from the uh abortion thing, pro-life cause. And then he said your tone. He's cause. And then he said your tone. He's cause. And then he said your tone. He's like, and I'm we'll show it to you in a like, and I'm we'll show it to you in a like, and I'm we'll show it to you in a second.

second. second. >> It's going to be interesting. >> It's going to be interesting. >> It's going to be interesting. >> Yeah. And I like, dude, I we did some >> Yeah. And I like, dude, I we did some >> Yeah. And I like, dude, I we did some pretty I did some pretty deep dive pretty I did some pretty deep dive pretty I did some pretty deep dive research on this thing. So it's kind of research on this thing. So it's kind of research on this thing. So it's kind of interesting. interesting. interesting. >> That's right. It's going to be great, >> That's right. It's going to be great, >> That's right. It's going to be great, man. Uh we just came from week one of At man. Uh we just came from week one of At man. Uh we just came from week one of At the Movies. Bro, this is uh if you're the Movies. Bro, this is uh if you're the Movies. Bro, this is uh if you're new here, this is a very unique sermon new here, this is a very unique sermon new here, this is a very unique sermon series we do once a year where we series we do once a year where we series we do once a year where we >> Whoa, >> Whoa, >> Whoa, >> that's hilarious. >> that's hilarious. >> that's hilarious. >> Bro, you know what? You hit it so hard >> Bro, you know what? You hit it so hard >> Bro, you know what? You hit it so hard that it like shook the whole room. that it like shook the whole room. that it like shook the whole room. >> I know. It's the >> I know. It's the >> I know. It's the >> That's That's anointing I got over you. >> That's That's anointing I got over you. >> That's That's anointing I got over you. >> It's the It's the recent arm workout. >> It's the It's the recent arm workout. >> It's the It's the recent arm workout. >> Oh, there you go. Okay. Uh we going at >> Oh, there you go. Okay. Uh we going at >> Oh, there you go. Okay. Uh we going at the movies. Uh we had the movie F1 with the movies. Uh we had the movie F1 with the movies. Uh we had the movie F1 with uh Brad Pitt. uh Brad Pitt. uh Brad Pitt. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And uh it was great, man. It was a good >> And uh it was great, man. It was a good >> And uh it was great, man. It was a good movie. I I will just say if you're if movie. I I will just say if you're if movie. I I will just say if you're if you're in Live Free Nation, you've never you're in Live Free Nation, you've never you're in Live Free Nation, you've never made it to Lake Point. These are not made it to Lake Point. These are not made it to Lake Point. These are not online. It's in person only. That's online. It's in person only. That's online. It's in person only. That's right. right. right. >> And uh if you're ever going to come >> And uh if you're ever going to come >> And uh if you're ever going to come hang, this is this is when you want to hang, this is this is when you want to hang, this is this is when you want to come hang. Make it to a campus. You want come hang. Make it to a campus. You want come hang. Make it to a campus. You want to come to come to come >> and come early because we have uh >> and come early because we have uh >> and come early because we have uh literally like thousands and thousands literally like thousands and thousands literally like thousands and thousands of people coming in here. of people coming in here. of people coming in here. >> Dude, this week I haven't gotten the >> Dude, this week I haven't gotten the >> Dude, this week I haven't gotten the numbers yet. Well over 30,000 people in numbers yet. Well over 30,000 people in numbers yet. Well over 30,000 people in person. It was stupid. person. It was stupid. person. It was stupid. >> Great first week. I also want to ask you >> Great first week. I also want to ask you >> Great first week. I also want to ask you though because uh this is a little bit though because uh this is a little bit though because uh this is a little bit of a a different sermon series, Pastor of a a different sermon series, Pastor of a a different sermon series, Pastor Josh. And um I I got some questions for Josh. And um I I got some questions for Josh. And um I I got some questions for you if you're okay. Okay.

you if you're okay. Okay. you if you're okay. Okay. >> Well, here's my first one, Pastor Jo. >> Well, here's my first one, Pastor Jo. >> Well, here's my first one, Pastor Jo. >> What are these questions? Are you like >> What are these questions? Are you like >> What are these questions? Are you like >> these are objections slash uh coming >> these are objections slash uh coming >> these are objections slash uh coming from a place of skepticism perhaps out from a place of skepticism perhaps out from a place of skepticism perhaps out in the internet when people are hearing in the internet when people are hearing in the internet when people are hearing about this sermon series and they're about this sermon series and they're about this sermon series and they're like, man, I'm curious, but at the same like, man, I'm curious, but at the same like, man, I'm curious, but at the same time, I'm not sure about some things. time, I'm not sure about some things. time, I'm not sure about some things. >> People don't do that on the internet, >> People don't do that on the internet, >> People don't do that on the internet, >> Carlos. That's right. That was back in >> Carlos. That's right. That was back in >> Carlos. That's right. That was back in the day. the day. the day. >> Formally encouraging and approving, >> Formally encouraging and approving, >> Formally encouraging and approving, >> especially an ex that's that never >> especially an ex that's that never >> especially an ex that's that never happens. Uh and so here here's here's happens. Uh and so here here's here's happens. Uh and so here here's here's the first one. Pastor Josh, churches the first one. Pastor Josh, churches the first one. Pastor Josh, churches shouldn't be preaching worldly movies. shouldn't be preaching worldly movies. shouldn't be preaching worldly movies. Why are you doing this? Why are you doing this? Why are you doing this? >> Okay, so first of all, let me take away >> Okay, so first of all, let me take away >> Okay, so first of all, let me take away the worldly part. Uh, you read those the worldly part. Uh, you read those the worldly part. Uh, you read those questions like I told you to so that you questions like I told you to so that you questions like I told you to so that you wait, you know what? You're absolutely wait, you know what? You're absolutely wait, you know what? You're absolutely right. right. right. >> So, let me point this out. What people >> So, let me point this out. What people >> So, let me point this out. What people say is say is say is >> churches shouldn't be preaching movies. >> churches shouldn't be preaching movies. >> churches shouldn't be preaching movies. >> There you go. There you go. So, so >> There you go. There you go. So, so >> There you go. There you go. So, so here's my point is what first of all, here's my point is what first of all, here's my point is what first of all, that's not what this is. So, what I want that's not what this is. So, what I want that's not what this is. So, what I want to make is for people who have never to make is for people who have never to make is for people who have never done this. This is not preaching movies. done this. This is not preaching movies. done this. This is not preaching movies. It's using movies to illustrate biblical It's using movies to illustrate biblical It's using movies to illustrate biblical truths. And here's here's what I would truths. And here's here's what I would truths. And here's here's what I would say is literally literally here's all say is literally literally here's all say is literally literally here's all this is what Jesus did in we we call this is what Jesus did in we we call this is what Jesus did in we we call them parables like all all it is a them parables like all all it is a them parables like all all it is a parable is two Greek words mashed up parable is two Greek words mashed up parable is two Greek words mashed up into one parah which means alongside into one parah which means alongside into one parah which means alongside ballay means to throw. So literally ballay means to throw. So literally ballay means to throw. So literally Jesus the vast majority of teaches Jesus Jesus the vast majority of teaches Jesus Jesus the vast majority of teaches Jesus teaching ministry all he's doing is he's teaching ministry all he's doing is he's teaching ministry all he's doing is he's taking stories some of which by the way taking stories some of which by the way taking stories some of which by the way dude this is really interesting we dude this is really interesting we dude this is really interesting we should actually have Chad G Paulc tell should actually have Chad G Paulc tell should actually have Chad G Paulc tell us which ones us which ones us which ones >> some of Jesus parables were modern-day >> some of Jesus parables were modern-day >> some of Jesus parables were modern-day stories that were already popular in stories that were already popular in stories that were already popular in culture sort of like fables things you culture sort of like fables things you culture sort of like fables things you know kind of thing and then Jesus would know kind of thing and then Jesus would know kind of thing and then Jesus would take them and either twist them or

take them and either twist them or take them and either twist them or change the ending to intentionally change the ending to intentionally change the ending to intentionally illustrate a biblical truth illustrate a biblical truth illustrate a biblical truth >> that's literally all we're doing right >> that's literally all we're doing right >> that's literally all we're doing right >> we're taking popular stories in our >> we're taking popular stories in our >> we're taking popular stories in our culture culture and then throwing them culture culture and then throwing them culture culture and then throwing them alongside of a spiritual truth and then alongside of a spiritual truth and then alongside of a spiritual truth and then using to illustrate those things. So, using to illustrate those things. So, using to illustrate those things. So, what I'm I just want to say this, it what I'm I just want to say this, it what I'm I just want to say this, it drives me nuts when people like, "You're drives me nuts when people like, "You're drives me nuts when people like, "You're preaching movies." No, dude. We preach a preaching movies." No, dude. We preach a preaching movies." No, dude. We preach a Bible. Bible. Bible. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> We use little clips from the movies for >> We use little clips from the movies for >> We use little clips from the movies for these four weeks to illustrate the these four weeks to illustrate the these four weeks to illustrate the biblical truth and you may think it's biblical truth and you may think it's biblical truth and you may think it's dumb and we I don't care. dumb and we I don't care. dumb and we I don't care. >> Okay. So, a lot of people come >> Okay. So, a lot of people come >> Okay. So, a lot of people come obviously. obviously. obviously. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Don't try to be holier than Jesus. >> Don't try to be holier than Jesus. >> Don't try to be holier than Jesus. >> There's Christian There's a lot of >> There's Christian There's a lot of >> There's Christian There's a lot of Christians like they're constantly Christians like they're constantly Christians like they're constantly trying to be holier than Jesus. You trying to be holier than Jesus. You trying to be holier than Jesus. You know, if don't try to be holier than know, if don't try to be holier than know, if don't try to be holier than Jesus, if Jesus is really good making Jesus, if Jesus is really good making Jesus, if Jesus is really good making like a whole sermon, a story, don't try like a whole sermon, a story, don't try like a whole sermon, a story, don't try to be holier than Jesus. to be holier than Jesus. to be holier than Jesus. >> That's a good word. Uh yeah, but uh >> That's a good word. Uh yeah, but uh >> That's a good word. Uh yeah, but uh sure, okay, movies, fine, but Pastor sure, okay, movies, fine, but Pastor sure, okay, movies, fine, but Pastor Josh, what you win them with is what you Josh, what you win them with is what you Josh, what you win them with is what you win them to. win them to. win them to. >> Yeah, I've heard that said before by all >> Yeah, I've heard that said before by all >> Yeah, I've heard that said before by all my reform brothers on X. my reform brothers on X. my reform brothers on X. >> Yeah. All the people are going to come >> Yeah. All the people are going to come >> Yeah. All the people are going to come for the movies and then you know, like for the movies and then you know, like for the movies and then you know, like now you got to use movies like literally now you got to use movies like literally now you got to use movies like literally every single weekend for the rest of the every single weekend for the rest of the every single weekend for the rest of the the year. And so, the year. And so, the year. And so, >> so, dude, this is uh, you know, that >> so, dude, this is uh, you know, that >> so, dude, this is uh, you know, that little phrase, what you went with, you little phrase, what you went with, you little phrase, what you went with, you went him to, that's something that I went him to, that's something that I went him to, that's something that I will say it drives me just a little bit will say it drives me just a little bit will say it drives me just a little bit crazy. Uh, because here's what I would crazy. Uh, because here's what I would crazy. Uh, because here's what I would just say. Just because a phrase rhymes just say. Just because a phrase rhymes just say. Just because a phrase rhymes doesn't mean it's true. So, like I will doesn't mean it's true. So, like I will doesn't mean it's true. So, like I will say, you all notice that um, I looked say, you all notice that um, I looked say, you all notice that um, I looked this up last year. It's something called this up last year. It's something called this up last year. It's something called the eaten roen effect, right? And it's the eaten roen effect, right? And it's the eaten roen effect, right? And it's basically this little psychological basically this little psychological basically this little psychological effect that people have where when effect that people have where when effect that people have where when something rhymes or is like really

something rhymes or is like really something rhymes or is like really catchy, there's like, oh, so like here's catchy, there's like, oh, so like here's catchy, there's like, oh, so like here's what I would say. Roses are red, violets what I would say. Roses are red, violets what I would say. Roses are red, violets are blue. If you make something rhyme, are blue. If you make something rhyme, are blue. If you make something rhyme, people think it's true. people think it's true. people think it's true. >> Okay. Wow. >> Okay. Wow. >> Okay. Wow. >> And I would just say like >> And I would just say like >> And I would just say like >> that must be true. >> that must be true. >> that must be true. >> It's not true. Like the whole thing of >> It's not true. Like the whole thing of >> It's not true. Like the whole thing of what you win them with, you wish what what you win them with, you wish what what you win them with, you wish what you win them to. I would just say, well, you win them to. I would just say, well, you win them to. I would just say, well, great man. If you're gonna say that, I great man. If you're gonna say that, I great man. If you're gonna say that, I look forward to your church taking away look forward to your church taking away look forward to your church taking away all of its AC units and microphones and all of its AC units and microphones and all of its AC units and microphones and screens because brother, what you win screens because brother, what you win screens because brother, what you win with, you win them, too. And I will just with, you win them, too. And I will just with, you win them, too. And I will just point out, dude, like the Bible like point out, dude, like the Bible like point out, dude, like the Bible like explicitly tells in New Testament, huge explicitly tells in New Testament, huge explicitly tells in New Testament, huge crowds start following Jesus because crowds start following Jesus because crowds start following Jesus because he's healing people and feeding people. he's healing people and feeding people. he's healing people and feeding people. >> It's like, hey, man, it's that's not how >> It's like, hey, man, it's that's not how >> It's like, hey, man, it's that's not how it it it >> he didn't just win them to healings and >> he didn't just win them to healings and >> he didn't just win them to healings and meals. That's why they initially came meals. That's why they initially came meals. That's why they initially came and then they met Jesus and they were and then they met Jesus and they were and then they met Jesus and they were converted to Jesus. converted to Jesus. converted to Jesus. >> That's right. He he met them where >> That's right. He he met them where >> That's right. He he met them where they're at. Uh, okay. This is probably they're at. Uh, okay. This is probably they're at. Uh, okay. This is probably more from a a Catholic, our Catholic more from a a Catholic, our Catholic more from a a Catholic, our Catholic friends kind of asking this question. friends kind of asking this question. friends kind of asking this question. Um, man, there's a Why does it have to Um, man, there's a Why does it have to Um, man, there's a Why does it have to be such a lack of reverence for holy be such a lack of reverence for holy be such a lack of reverence for holy things in church? things in church? things in church? >> It's too too entertainment. Too >> It's too too entertainment. Too >> It's too too entertainment. Too entertainment.

entertainment. entertainment. >> It's too much entertainment. Come on, >> It's too much entertainment. Come on, >> It's too much entertainment. Come on, man. It's church. man. It's church. man. It's church. >> What what I would just say, so here >> What what I would just say, so here >> What what I would just say, so here here's the biggest thing I would say is here's the biggest thing I would say is here's the biggest thing I would say is here's what's really holy to God. People here's what's really holy to God. People here's what's really holy to God. People getting saved. getting saved. getting saved. >> That's what's really You want to know >> That's what's really You want to know >> That's what's really You want to know what's holy to God? People getting what's holy to God? People getting what's holy to God? People getting saved. So, so that's the whole thing of saved. So, so that's the whole thing of saved. So, so that's the whole thing of there's more rejoicing in heaven when there's more rejoicing in heaven when there's more rejoicing in heaven when one person repents than when 99 people one person repents than when 99 people one person repents than when 99 people stay really righteous. stay really righteous. stay really righteous. >> That's right, man. >> That's right, man. >> That's right, man. >> And dude, whenever I like we'll probably >> And dude, whenever I like we'll probably >> And dude, whenever I like we'll probably see in the next few weeks, I mean, no, see in the next few weeks, I mean, no, see in the next few weeks, I mean, no, no joke, thousands of people in some way no joke, thousands of people in some way no joke, thousands of people in some way indicate a first- time decision to indicate a first- time decision to indicate a first- time decision to follow Christ. Now, we got to disciple follow Christ. Now, we got to disciple follow Christ. Now, we got to disciple them. We got to help them evaluate those them. We got to help them evaluate those them. We got to help them evaluate those things. things. things. >> But, uh, that that's that's very holy. >> But, uh, that that's that's very holy. >> But, uh, that that's that's very holy. >> That's right. On that note, we just >> That's right. On that note, we just >> That's right. On that note, we just finished week one. We got three more finished week one. We got three more finished week one. We got three more weeks left. We'll see you here. Hey, weeks left. We'll see you here. Hey, weeks left. We'll see you here. Hey, every single week we do a giveaway. So, every single week we do a giveaway. So, every single week we do a giveaway. So, if you're on YouTube or Spotify, which if you're on YouTube or Spotify, which if you're on YouTube or Spotify, which by the way, our platforms are growing by the way, our platforms are growing by the way, our platforms are growing every single week quite a bit. Comment every single week quite a bit. Comment every single week quite a bit. Comment hat and we love to pick some of you for hat and we love to pick some of you for hat and we love to pick some of you for a giveaway. Also, if you want some of a giveaway. Also, if you want some of a giveaway. Also, if you want some of this merch as well, um this shirt from this merch as well, um this shirt from this merch as well, um this shirt from uh Paul that says, "Someday I will go to uh Paul that says, "Someday I will go to uh Paul that says, "Someday I will go to Israel." We might this might be a merch. Israel." We might this might be a merch. Israel." We might this might be a merch. And if uh and Paul Cunningham can And if uh and Paul Cunningham can And if uh and Paul Cunningham can actually sign it for you as well.

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if at all. if at all. >> All right. But so that that said, but >> All right. But so that that said, but >> All right. But so that that said, but >> for every four years when the World Cup >> for every four years when the World Cup >> for every four years when the World Cup comes around, all of a sudden I'm like, comes around, all of a sudden I'm like, comes around, all of a sudden I'm like, I'm the biggest soccer fan, it's just I'm the biggest soccer fan, it's just I'm the biggest soccer fan, it's just like my inner patriotism comes out. like my inner patriotism comes out. like my inner patriotism comes out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> And I'm like, I'm all in. So yes, I have >> And I'm like, I'm all in. So yes, I have >> And I'm like, I'm all in. So yes, I have been. been. been. >> Did you watch your last USA game? >> Did you watch your last USA game? >> Did you watch your last USA game? >> I did. I crushed crushed myself. >> I did. I crushed crushed myself. >> I did. I crushed crushed myself. >> Me too. It was a little painful. Uh, >> Me too. It was a little painful. Uh, >> Me too. It was a little painful. Uh, bro, but I would say this. Um, something bro, but I would say this. Um, something bro, but I would say this. Um, something is happening in this World Cup that a is happening in this World Cup that a is happening in this World Cup that a lot of people are asking, man. There's lot of people are asking, man. There's lot of people are asking, man. There's something very different and unique something very different and unique something very different and unique about this World Cup and media outlets about this World Cup and media outlets about this World Cup and media outlets are actually calling it the most openly are actually calling it the most openly are actually calling it the most openly religious World Cup in recent history. religious World Cup in recent history. religious World Cup in recent history. Some people are even calling it the the Some people are even calling it the the Some people are even calling it the the World Cup of faith. And the reason is World Cup of faith. And the reason is World Cup of faith. And the reason is because you you see this all the time because you you see this all the time because you you see this all the time more than any other World Cup. You see more than any other World Cup. You see more than any other World Cup. You see all these players and coaches and people all these players and coaches and people all these players and coaches and people publicly proclaiming their faith in publicly proclaiming their faith in publicly proclaiming their faith in Jesus or whenever they're asked they're Jesus or whenever they're asked they're Jesus or whenever they're asked they're like glorifying God. They're praying like glorifying God. They're praying like glorifying God. They're praying together. Literally, I want to show you together. Literally, I want to show you together. Literally, I want to show you some some examples. So, this right here some some examples. So, this right here some some examples. So, this right here is a photo of the USA team prayer huddle is a photo of the USA team prayer huddle is a photo of the USA team prayer huddle uh in the middle of the field. And uh in the middle of the field. And uh in the middle of the field. And literally they this became like a literally they this became like a literally they this became like a tradition before and after the game tradition before and after the game tradition before and after the game whether they lost or whether they won whether they lost or whether they won whether they lost or whether they won they're like we're going to give God they're like we're going to give God they're like we're going to give God glory. That's super public. Here's glory. That's super public. Here's glory. That's super public. Here's another example. This is right here is another example. This is right here is another example. This is right here is two teams. It's Germany and Kurissau.

two teams. It's Germany and Kurissau. two teams. It's Germany and Kurissau. After Germany beat Kurissau, they came After Germany beat Kurissau, they came After Germany beat Kurissau, they came together and they started praying together and they started praying together and they started praying together and people were asking them, together and people were asking them, together and people were asking them, "Hey, why are you like why are you guys "Hey, why are you like why are you guys "Hey, why are you like why are you guys praying together? You're supposed to be praying together? You're supposed to be praying together? You're supposed to be on the opposite sides of each other." on the opposite sides of each other." on the opposite sides of each other." And uh what Felix Ma, one of the German And uh what Felix Ma, one of the German And uh what Felix Ma, one of the German players, said, he said, "Man, in the players, said, he said, "Man, in the players, said, he said, "Man, in the game, we are opponents, but after the game, we are opponents, but after the game, we are opponents, but after the game, we're all Christian brothers and game, we're all Christian brothers and game, we're all Christian brothers and sisters, and Jesus is glorified when we sisters, and Jesus is glorified when we sisters, and Jesus is glorified when we do this." Um, and then another video do this." Um, and then another video do this." Um, and then another video right here, this is Felix Ma. He's doing right here, this is Felix Ma. He's doing right here, this is Felix Ma. He's doing a before we play it, he does a gesture a before we play it, he does a gesture a before we play it, he does a gesture where he literally like falls on his where he literally like falls on his where he literally like falls on his knees. He takes his crown symbolically knees. He takes his crown symbolically knees. He takes his crown symbolically and he puts it in front of Jesus. This and he puts it in front of Jesus. This and he puts it in front of Jesus. This is the video. is the video. is the video. >> I want to see it. >> I want to see it. >> I want to see it. >> Who is this, >> Who is this, >> Who is this, >> bro? >> bro? >> bro? Inject it into my veins. Germany, Felix Inject it into my veins. Germany, Felix Inject it into my veins. Germany, Felix Mecha. And so, uh, here here's what's Mecha. And so, uh, here here's what's Mecha. And so, uh, here here's what's interesting. This right here, what interesting. This right here, what interesting. This right here, what you're seeing is so unique in history. you're seeing is so unique in history. you're seeing is so unique in history. Like the speed and the scale at which Like the speed and the scale at which Like the speed and the scale at which the name of Jesus is being proclaimed. the name of Jesus is being proclaimed. the name of Jesus is being proclaimed. We've never seen this before. And what We've never seen this before. And what We've never seen this before. And what people don't know this, actually, the people don't know this, actually, the people don't know this, actually, the Bible actually prophesies this literally Bible actually prophesies this literally Bible actually prophesies this literally like 2,000 years ago. If you think about like 2,000 years ago. If you think about like 2,000 years ago. If you think about this right now, uh, we don't we don't this right now, uh, we don't we don't this right now, uh, we don't we don't think about this often, but the World think about this often, but the World think about this often, but the World Cup is actually the most watched Cup is actually the most watched Cup is actually the most watched sporting event like on the planet. Every sporting event like on the planet. Every sporting event like on the planet. Every single game literally there has like 175 single game literally there has like 175 single game literally there has like 175 million people watching. last World Cup million people watching. last World Cup million people watching. last World Cup in 2022, we've had over like 5 billion in 2022, we've had over like 5 billion in 2022, we've had over like 5 billion people tune in. People are expecting people tune in. People are expecting people tune in. People are expecting already for this World Cup to break more already for this World Cup to break more already for this World Cup to break more records and maybe five or six billion records and maybe five or six billion records and maybe five or six billion people listening and tuning in to what's people listening and tuning in to what's people listening and tuning in to what's going on. And it's interesting, somebody going on. And it's interesting, somebody going on. And it's interesting, somebody could be asking, how is it possible that could be asking, how is it possible that could be asking, how is it possible that 2,000 years ago Jesus said in Matthew 2,000 years ago Jesus said in Matthew 2,000 years ago Jesus said in Matthew 24:14, he said, "In this gospel of the 24:14, he said, "In this gospel of the 24:14, he said, "In this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout kingdom will be proclaimed throughout kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all

the whole world as a testimony to all the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come." nations, and then the end will come." nations, and then the end will come." Acts 1:8. And you will receive power Acts 1:8. And you will receive power Acts 1:8. And you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes upon you and when the Holy Spirit comes upon you and when the Holy Spirit comes upon you and you will be my witnesses where to the you will be my witnesses where to the you will be my witnesses where to the ends of the earth. ends of the earth. ends of the earth. >> Amen. >> Amen. >> Amen. >> Revelation chapter 7 John sees his >> Revelation chapter 7 John sees his >> Revelation chapter 7 John sees his vision and he says after this I looked vision and he says after this I looked vision and he says after this I looked and behold a great multitude from every and behold a great multitude from every and behold a great multitude from every nation from all tribes all peoples and nation from all tribes all peoples and nation from all tribes all peoples and languages standing before the throne languages standing before the throne languages standing before the throne crying salvation belongs to our God. And crying salvation belongs to our God. And crying salvation belongs to our God. And so if somebody's asking how is it so if somebody's asking how is it so if somebody's asking how is it possible that 2,000 years ago we get to possible that 2,000 years ago we get to possible that 2,000 years ago we get to we we heard about this. Here's how it's we we heard about this. Here's how it's we we heard about this. Here's how it's possible. possible. possible. >> The Bible is true. >> The Bible is true. >> The Bible is true. >> That's right. Jesus is who he said he >> That's right. Jesus is who he said he >> That's right. Jesus is who he said he is. And there is not a single country, a is. And there is not a single country, a is. And there is not a single country, a single culture, a single territory, a single culture, a single territory, a single culture, a single territory, a single group of people that Jesus single group of people that Jesus single group of people that Jesus doesn't look at. And he doesn't say doesn't look at. And he doesn't say doesn't look at. And he doesn't say mine. mine. mine. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> And one day, every knee will bow and >> And one day, every knee will bow and >> And one day, every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus every tongue will confess that Jesus every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is king of kings and lord of Christ is king of kings and lord of Christ is king of kings and lord of lords, not just of your heart, but of lords, not just of your heart, but of lords, not just of your heart, but of every single nation. every single nation. every single nation. >> Boom. >> Boom. >> Boom. >> That >> That >> That >> come on, man. >> come on, man. >> come on, man. >> That's what we see, man. >> That's what we see, man. >> That's what we see, man. >> Dude, you know what? So, this is one >> Dude, you know what? So, this is one >> Dude, you know what? So, this is one thing. It's like sometimes you're so thing. It's like sometimes you're so thing. It's like sometimes you're so familiar with something. That's right. familiar with something. That's right. familiar with something. That's right. that like the uh the magnificence of it that like the uh the magnificence of it that like the uh the magnificence of it is lost on you. So like when Christians is lost on you. So like when Christians is lost on you. So like when Christians see people they read about like every see people they read about like every see people they read about like every tribe tongue nation you know among all tribe tongue nation you know among all tribe tongue nation you know among all nations. I will say, dude, Christians a nations. I will say, dude, Christians a nations. I will say, dude, Christians a lot of times we're so used to seeing lot of times we're so used to seeing lot of times we're so used to seeing stuff like that that dude, dude, when stuff like that that dude, dude, when stuff like that that dude, dude, when those prophecies were made, you're those prophecies were made, you're those prophecies were made, you're talking about like there wasund talking about like there wasund talking about like there wasund some some of these prophets, there was some some of these prophets, there was some some of these prophets, there was 120 Christians.

120 Christians. 120 Christians. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Like in the whole world, disciples that >> Like in the whole world, disciples that >> Like in the whole world, disciples that were following Jesus. uh a and uh the were following Jesus. uh a and uh the were following Jesus. uh a and uh the entire area in which all of the you know entire area in which all of the you know entire area in which all of the you know basically the entire Bible takes place basically the entire Bible takes place basically the entire Bible takes place is in a an area the size of New Jersey. is in a an area the size of New Jersey. is in a an area the size of New Jersey. So it's like dude when you start seeing So it's like dude when you start seeing So it's like dude when you start seeing like literally every tribe tongue nation like literally every tribe tongue nation like literally every tribe tongue nation doing that and then you remember those doing that and then you remember those doing that and then you remember those prophecies took place they took place. prophecies took place they took place. prophecies took place they took place. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> When there was like fewer people than >> When there was like fewer people than >> When there was like fewer people than some of our life groups at Lake Point. some of our life groups at Lake Point. some of our life groups at Lake Point. That's That's That's >> right. >> right. >> right. >> And now that's happening. Why? The >> And now that's happening. Why? The >> And now that's happening. Why? The Bible's true. Bible's true. Bible's true. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> The Bible's true. Jesus is who we say he >> The Bible's true. Jesus is who we say he >> The Bible's true. Jesus is who we say he is. Hey, um I want to ask you a is. Hey, um I want to ask you a is. Hey, um I want to ask you a question. question. question. >> I will allow it. >> I will allow it. >> I will allow it. >> Why did it make it to the sermon? >> Why did it make it to the sermon? >> Why did it make it to the sermon? >> A lot. Okay. A whole lot. Because on >> A lot. Okay. A whole lot. Because on >> A lot. Okay. A whole lot. Because on these on these at the movies, we just these on these at the movies, we just these on these at the movies, we just So, here's what we did. One of the So, here's what we did. One of the So, here's what we did. One of the passages that we really hit. I'm just passages that we really hit. I'm just passages that we really hit. I'm just going to read it. U because one of my going to read it. U because one of my going to read it. U because one of my favorite passages in the Bible. This is favorite passages in the Bible. This is favorite passages in the Bible. This is Hebrews chapter 12. Now, remember Hebrews chapter 12. Now, remember Hebrews chapter 12. Now, remember Hebrews chapter 12 comes after Hebrews Hebrews chapter 12 comes after Hebrews Hebrews chapter 12 comes after Hebrews chap 11. You're you're really welcome chap 11. You're you're really welcome chap 11. You're you're really welcome for this. for this. for this. >> This is such a great podcast. >> This is such a great podcast. >> This is such a great podcast. >> Incredible exegetical insights. But this >> Incredible exegetical insights. But this >> Incredible exegetical insights. But this >> man, we don't need Paul anymore. We got >> man, we don't need Paul anymore. We got >> man, we don't need Paul anymore. We got you. you. you. >> We got this. This is Wow. That's it.

>> We got this. This is Wow. That's it. >> We got this. This is Wow. That's it. >> Uh he's on vacation. He's on vacation. >> Uh he's on vacation. He's on vacation. >> Uh he's on vacation. He's on vacation. >> He is. Yeah. >> He is. Yeah. >> He is. Yeah. >> Here's what it says. Therefore, since we >> Here's what it says. Therefore, since we >> Here's what it says. Therefore, since we are surrounded in Israel, sorry, I have are surrounded in Israel, sorry, I have are surrounded in Israel, sorry, I have I'm so sorry. Go ahead. I'm so sorry. Go ahead. I'm so sorry. Go ahead. >> Therefore, since we are surrounded by so >> Therefore, since we are surrounded by so >> Therefore, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us also great a cloud of witnesses, let us also great a cloud of witnesses, let us also lay aside every weight and the sin which lay aside every weight and the sin which lay aside every weight and the sin which clings so closely. And let us run with clings so closely. And let us run with clings so closely. And let us run with endurance the race that is set before endurance the race that is set before endurance the race that is set before us, looking to Jesus, the founder and us, looking to Jesus, the founder and us, looking to Jesus, the founder and perfector of our faith. Who for the joy perfector of our faith. Who for the joy perfector of our faith. Who for the joy set before him endured the cross, set before him endured the cross, set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is seated at despising the shame, and is seated at despising the shame, and is seated at the right hand of the throne of God. the right hand of the throne of God. the right hand of the throne of God. Now, a lot of like we're talking Now, a lot of like we're talking Now, a lot of like we're talking obviously F1 is kind of like using F1 to obviously F1 is kind of like using F1 to obviously F1 is kind of like using F1 to illustrate kind of race dynamics. So, illustrate kind of race dynamics. So, illustrate kind of race dynamics. So, let me just say a few things. First of let me just say a few things. First of let me just say a few things. First of all, what I love about this passage when all, what I love about this passage when all, what I love about this passage when it says, so again, here's why I pointed it says, so again, here's why I pointed it says, so again, here's why I pointed out Hebrews 11 before Hebrews 12. out Hebrews 11 before Hebrews 12. out Hebrews 11 before Hebrews 12. Hebrews 11 obviously is it's that uh Hebrews 11 obviously is it's that uh Hebrews 11 obviously is it's that uh chapter a lot of Bible scholars will chapter a lot of Bible scholars will chapter a lot of Bible scholars will call the hall of faith or the hall of call the hall of faith or the hall of call the hall of faith or the hall of fame of faith. And it's just riffs fame of faith. And it's just riffs fame of faith. And it's just riffs through, you know, 20 or so of the great through, you know, 20 or so of the great through, you know, 20 or so of the great people of the faith throughout the ages. people of the faith throughout the ages. people of the faith throughout the ages. Here's what I love. When you get to Here's what I love. When you get to Here's what I love. When you get to Hebrews chapter 12 and it says we're Hebrews chapter 12 and it says we're Hebrews chapter 12 and it says we're surrounded by so great a cloud of surrounded by so great a cloud of surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, witnesses, witnesses, >> obviously the image that is kind of, you >> obviously the image that is kind of, you >> obviously the image that is kind of, you know, that is given us is like all these know, that is given us is like all these know, that is given us is like all these guys that I just wrote about in Hebrews guys that I just wrote about in Hebrews guys that I just wrote about in Hebrews 11. They're in the stands watching you, 11. They're in the stands watching you, 11. They're in the stands watching you, cheering you on. I will say, dude, Bible cheering you on. I will say, dude, Bible cheering you on. I will say, dude, Bible scholars have pointed out, uh, this scholars have pointed out, uh, this scholars have pointed out, uh, this passage is one of a few that make it at passage is one of a few that make it at passage is one of a few that make it at least seem like your dead relatives that least seem like your dead relatives that least seem like your dead relatives that were in Christ or the dead saints that were in Christ or the dead saints that were in Christ or the dead saints that went before us that in some way they went before us that in some way they went before us that in some way they might actually be able to see us. And might actually be able to see us. And might actually be able to see us. And so, dude, I I'll be honest, that like

so, dude, I I'll be honest, that like so, dude, I I'll be honest, that like deposits a weight inside of me where deposits a weight inside of me where deposits a weight inside of me where it's like, hey man, like Moses and Noah it's like, hey man, like Moses and Noah it's like, hey man, like Moses and Noah and Abra like man, these guys are and Abra like man, these guys are and Abra like man, these guys are watching Carlos Arazzo watching Carlos Arazzo watching Carlos Arazzo and they may be watching Josh Howardan and they may be watching Josh Howardan and they may be watching Josh Howardan and watching going keep going like it's and watching going keep going like it's and watching going keep going like it's every sacrifice is worth it, you know, every sacrifice is worth it, you know, every sacrifice is worth it, you know, give it everything you got, you know, to give it everything you got, you know, to give it everything you got, you know, to the very end. So, one, it's a it's a the very end. So, one, it's a it's a the very end. So, one, it's a it's a comforting and encouraging thought to comforting and encouraging thought to comforting and encouraging thought to me. There's at least a hint and a me. There's at least a hint and a me. There's at least a hint and a possibility here that all your dead possibility here that all your dead possibility here that all your dead loved ones who knew Jesus, they're loved ones who knew Jesus, they're loved ones who knew Jesus, they're watching and they're cheering you on in watching and they're cheering you on in watching and they're cheering you on in your holiness. Okay. Number two, there's your holiness. Okay. Number two, there's your holiness. Okay. Number two, there's a couple things that are super a couple things that are super a couple things that are super interesting here. It says, "Lay aside interesting here. It says, "Lay aside interesting here. It says, "Lay aside every weight." Now, this is kind of a every weight." Now, this is kind of a every weight." Now, this is kind of a little we'll probably have to actually little we'll probably have to actually little we'll probably have to actually censor this when we do the pod. So, what censor this when we do the pod. So, what censor this when we do the pod. So, what u a lot of people don't know is in the u a lot of people don't know is in the u a lot of people don't know is in the Greor Roman Empire when they did their Greor Roman Empire when they did their Greor Roman Empire when they did their races, obviously, athletics were a big races, obviously, athletics were a big races, obviously, athletics were a big deal. This Olympics originated in in deal. This Olympics originated in in deal. This Olympics originated in in this culture. Uh go ahead and toss that this culture. Uh go ahead and toss that this culture. Uh go ahead and toss that up, Triny. This is like an actual uh up, Triny. This is like an actual uh up, Triny. This is like an actual uh it's a Roman pottery deal that was very it's a Roman pottery deal that was very it's a Roman pottery deal that was very well preserved of the you know of the well preserved of the you know of the well preserved of the you know of the the races and athletics and you you got the races and athletics and you you got the races and athletics and you you got to see it's kind of kind of awkward but to see it's kind of kind of awkward but to see it's kind of kind of awkward but they're naked.

they're naked. they're naked. >> It's like um and that that's legit how >> It's like um and that that's legit how >> It's like um and that that's legit how they did all their athletics. they did all their athletics. they did all their athletics. >> So what what he's doing here is that was >> So what what he's doing here is that was >> So what what he's doing here is that was their mentality. Like literally the their mentality. Like literally the their mentality. Like literally the phrase that they would use is hey man phrase that they would use is hey man phrase that they would use is hey man before you run a race you got to lay before you run a race you got to lay before you run a race you got to lay aside every weight. And what they're aside every weight. And what they're aside every weight. And what they're doing is they're trying to strip away doing is they're trying to strip away doing is they're trying to strip away anything that's not going to make them anything that's not going to make them anything that's not going to make them run faster. Okay. run faster. Okay. run faster. Okay. >> So, what I will say, this is a little >> So, what I will say, this is a little >> So, what I will say, this is a little side note, is it says not just lay aside side note, is it says not just lay aside side note, is it says not just lay aside the sin that clings so closely. It says the sin that clings so closely. It says the sin that clings so closely. It says lay aside every weight. lay aside every weight. lay aside every weight. >> Um there are some things in our lives as >> Um there are some things in our lives as >> Um there are some things in our lives as disciples where it's like, hey, man, disciples where it's like, hey, man, disciples where it's like, hey, man, that's not sin. that's not sin. that's not sin. >> It's just stupid. >> It's just stupid. >> It's just stupid. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And man, if if I'm if I'm trying to fix >> And man, if if I'm if I'm trying to fix >> And man, if if I'm if I'm trying to fix my eyes on Jesus and run a really good my eyes on Jesus and run a really good my eyes on Jesus and run a really good race, man, it's not sin, but it is race, man, it's not sin, but it is race, man, it's not sin, but it is stupid. And there's some things that are stupid. And there's some things that are stupid. And there's some things that are not sinful that you you still need to not sinful that you you still need to not sinful that you you still need to discard. discard. discard. >> There you go. You know, man, it's just >> There you go. You know, man, it's just >> There you go. You know, man, it's just little stuff like I've noticed in my little stuff like I've noticed in my little stuff like I've noticed in my life. Here's here's I don't I don't want life. Here's here's I don't I don't want life. Here's here's I don't I don't want to deep dive on this specific thing. We to deep dive on this specific thing. We to deep dive on this specific thing. We can maybe talk about later how how to can maybe talk about later how how to can maybe talk about later how how to run a good race. Like I've noticed in my run a good race. Like I've noticed in my run a good race. Like I've noticed in my life that the more time I spend in front life that the more time I spend in front life that the more time I spend in front of a screen, the less time my soul of a screen, the less time my soul of a screen, the less time my soul spends meditating on the things of God.

spends meditating on the things of God. spends meditating on the things of God. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Is it a sin? No. Is it stupid? Yeah. >> Is it a sin? No. Is it stupid? Yeah. >> Is it a sin? No. Is it stupid? Yeah. >> Like there have been seasons in my life >> Like there have been seasons in my life >> Like there have been seasons in my life where I've never been drunk in my whole where I've never been drunk in my whole where I've never been drunk in my whole life, you know. But I will, you know, life, you know. But I will, you know, life, you know. But I will, you know, this is a whole you guys already covered this is a whole you guys already covered this is a whole you guys already covered this on the podcast. Like every now and this on the podcast. Like every now and this on the podcast. Like every now and then, man, you know, I've again never then, man, you know, I've again never then, man, you know, I've again never been drunk in my whole life. I like a been drunk in my whole life. I like a been drunk in my whole life. I like a bourbon. I do. I like a bourbon. Never bourbon. I do. I like a bourbon. Never bourbon. I do. I like a bourbon. Never been drunk in my whole life. been drunk in my whole life. been drunk in my whole life. >> There are some little seasons where it's >> There are some little seasons where it's >> There are some little seasons where it's like I've been, you know, under more like I've been, you know, under more like I've been, you know, under more pressure, whatever. And Jan will be pressure, whatever. And Jan will be pressure, whatever. And Jan will be like, "Hey man, you instead of just like, "Hey man, you instead of just like, "Hey man, you instead of just having one this week, you had three." having one this week, you had three." having one this week, you had three." And it's like on three different nights, And it's like on three different nights, And it's like on three different nights, and we're talking about one drive again. and we're talking about one drive again. and we're talking about one drive again. Never been drunk in my life. Never been drunk in my life. Never been drunk in my life. >> There's some little seasons. Is that a >> There's some little seasons. Is that a >> There's some little seasons. Is that a sin? No. Might it be stupid? Yeah. sin? No. Might it be stupid? Yeah. sin? No. Might it be stupid? Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, I will just say I wish I'd had time >> So, I will just say I wish I'd had time >> So, I will just say I wish I'd had time to talk about that. like uh examine the to talk about that. like uh examine the to talk about that. like uh examine the areas of your life and go, man, I'm not areas of your life and go, man, I'm not areas of your life and go, man, I'm not just asking, is this a sin? I'm asking, just asking, is this a sin? I'm asking, just asking, is this a sin? I'm asking, does this help me run my race? Well, does this help me run my race? Well, does this help me run my race? Well, >> and if it's not, let me get rid of it. >> and if it's not, let me get rid of it. >> and if it's not, let me get rid of it. Now, one other thing I want to point out Now, one other thing I want to point out Now, one other thing I want to point out here. here. here. >> So, when it says in Hebrews 12, it says, >> So, when it says in Hebrews 12, it says, >> So, when it says in Hebrews 12, it says, you know, to run the race. So, this is you know, to run the race. So, this is you know, to run the race. So, this is really just let I want to riff on this really just let I want to riff on this really just let I want to riff on this for a second because there's something for a second because there's something for a second because there's something here. So, this is a super dominant here. So, this is a super dominant here. So, this is a super dominant analogy in the New Testament. In fact, analogy in the New Testament. In fact, analogy in the New Testament. In fact, right after at the movies, we're going right after at the movies, we're going right after at the movies, we're going into a fight the good fight series.

into a fight the good fight series. into a fight the good fight series. these words preaching verse by verse these words preaching verse by verse these words preaching verse by verse through second Timothy is going to be through second Timothy is going to be through second Timothy is going to be awesome. One of the analogies he uses is awesome. One of the analogies he uses is awesome. One of the analogies he uses is is race running. You get the same thing is race running. You get the same thing is race running. You get the same thing in first Corinthians. It's over and over in first Corinthians. It's over and over in first Corinthians. It's over and over in the scriptures is run a race. Run a in the scriptures is run a race. Run a in the scriptures is run a race. Run a race. Run. race. Run. race. Run. >> Okay. What's really interesting, >> Okay. What's really interesting, >> Okay. What's really interesting, especially in Hebrews, the word that especially in Hebrews, the word that especially in Hebrews, the word that gets translated race is the Greek word gets translated race is the Greek word gets translated race is the Greek word agon or agon. agon or agon. agon or agon. >> That literally is the root word from >> That literally is the root word from >> That literally is the root word from which we get our word agony. which we get our word agony. which we get our word agony. >> Okay. So, here's what it's doing. What >> Okay. So, here's what it's doing. What >> Okay. So, here's what it's doing. What is really clear in the text is it's not is really clear in the text is it's not is really clear in the text is it's not talking about like dude it's like you talking about like dude it's like you talking about like dude it's like you know if Hudson's like dad let me race know if Hudson's like dad let me race know if Hudson's like dad let me race you down the driveway. It's like a it's you down the driveway. It's like a it's you down the driveway. It's like a it's like literally a 10-second race. There's like literally a 10-second race. There's like literally a 10-second race. There's no agony. no agony. no agony. >> This is talking about a sustained >> This is talking about a sustained >> This is talking about a sustained long-term struggle type of race. long-term struggle type of race. long-term struggle type of race. >> It's like Eugene Peterson, dude that >> It's like Eugene Peterson, dude that >> It's like Eugene Peterson, dude that wrote a message. wrote a message. wrote a message. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh by the way, also had a like discipled >> Uh by the way, also had a like discipled >> Uh by the way, also had a like discipled Bono. There's a little thing there. We Bono. There's a little thing there. We Bono. There's a little thing there. We should tell that story someday. should tell that story someday. should tell that story someday. >> Uh he he wrote this book. I love the >> Uh he he wrote this book. I love the >> Uh he he wrote this book. I love the title. He just called the Christian life title. He just called the Christian life title. He just called the Christian life a long obedience in the same direction. a long obedience in the same direction. a long obedience in the same direction. Okay. Okay. Okay. >> So what it's saying is now here here's >> So what it's saying is now here here's >> So what it's saying is now here here's let me go a little layer deeper on this.

let me go a little layer deeper on this. let me go a little layer deeper on this. So it's making really clear in a text. So it's making really clear in a text. So it's making really clear in a text. It's going hey man the Christian life It's going hey man the Christian life It's going hey man the Christian life it's not a sprint. it's not a sprint. it's not a sprint. >> But what some Christians do this I go >> But what some Christians do this I go >> But what some Christians do this I go hey man it's like I was told this. Hey hey man it's like I was told this. Hey hey man it's like I was told this. Hey it's not a sprint it's a what marathon. it's not a sprint it's a what marathon. it's not a sprint it's a what marathon. That's what people say. It's not a That's what people say. It's not a That's what people say. It's not a sprint. It's a marathon. I honestly sprint. It's a marathon. I honestly sprint. It's a marathon. I honestly think if you zoom out and look at the think if you zoom out and look at the think if you zoom out and look at the entire scriptures it's really it's not a entire scriptures it's really it's not a entire scriptures it's really it's not a sprint. It's it's actually not also a sprint. It's it's actually not also a sprint. It's it's actually not also a marathon. marathon. marathon. >> The advance of the gospel throughout the >> The advance of the gospel throughout the >> The advance of the gospel throughout the ages, it's not a sprint. It's not a ages, it's not a sprint. It's not a ages, it's not a sprint. It's not a marathon. It's a relay race. marathon. It's a relay race. marathon. It's a relay race. >> Okay, >> Okay, >> Okay, >> here's why I say this. Judges 2:10. So, >> here's why I say this. Judges 2:10. So, >> here's why I say this. Judges 2:10. So, bro, this this is the kind of thing that bro, this this is the kind of thing that bro, this this is the kind of thing that like it keep you up at night. So, you like it keep you up at night. So, you like it keep you up at night. So, you got the whole book of Joshua. You got got the whole book of Joshua. You got got the whole book of Joshua. You got all the miracles God does. You know, all the miracles God does. You know, all the miracles God does. You know, he's marching around walls seven times he's marching around walls seven times he's marching around walls seven times and they're falling down and you know, and they're falling down and you know, and they're falling down and you know, every battle that God gives them and you every battle that God gives them and you every battle that God gives them and you know that all all the things they spend. know that all all the things they spend. know that all all the things they spend. This is the generation that sees all of This is the generation that sees all of This is the generation that sees all of the miracles of God for the uh conquest the miracles of God for the uh conquest the miracles of God for the uh conquest of Canaan. of Canaan. of Canaan. Literally in the first part of the book Literally in the first part of the book Literally in the first part of the book of Judges comes right after Joshua. Here of Judges comes right after Joshua. Here of Judges comes right after Joshua. Here I'm going to read you this verse that'll I'm going to read you this verse that'll I'm going to read you this verse that'll keep you up at night. It says, "And all keep you up at night. It says, "And all keep you up at night. It says, "And all that generation that saw all that that generation that saw all that that generation that saw all that stuff."

stuff." stuff." >> All that generation also were gathered >> All that generation also were gathered >> All that generation also were gathered to their fathers. And they do, this is to their fathers. And they do, this is to their fathers. And they do, this is the verse to keep you up. And then there the verse to keep you up. And then there the verse to keep you up. And then there arose another generation after them who arose another generation after them who arose another generation after them who did not know the Lord or the work he had did not know the Lord or the work he had did not know the Lord or the work he had done for Israel. So, bro, what happened done for Israel. So, bro, what happened done for Israel. So, bro, what happened is that generation, they did fine. is that generation, they did fine. is that generation, they did fine. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> They ran their quote unquote race. They >> They ran their quote unquote race. They >> They ran their quote unquote race. They ran their marathon, but they dude, this ran their marathon, but they dude, this ran their marathon, but they dude, this is this really it really bugs me as a is this really it really bugs me as a is this really it really bugs me as a dad, but they did they thought they only dad, but they did they thought they only dad, but they did they thought they only thought of their Christian life as a thought of their Christian life as a thought of their Christian life as a marathon, and they did not think of it marathon, and they did not think of it marathon, and they did not think of it as a relay race. and they dropped the as a relay race. and they dropped the as a relay race. and they dropped the baton of faith. They did not pass it to baton of faith. They did not pass it to baton of faith. They did not pass it to their children. And so the the kids of their children. And so the the kids of their children. And so the the kids of the same people the same people the same people >> who w they their dads walked seven times >> who w they their dads walked seven times >> who w they their dads walked seven times around a wall and blew trumpets and the around a wall and blew trumpets and the around a wall and blew trumpets and the thing fell down and God gave them thing fell down and God gave them thing fell down and God gave them everything. That generation's kids everything. That generation's kids everything. That generation's kids didn't know the Lord and they didn't didn't know the Lord and they didn't didn't know the Lord and they didn't know any of the stories of what he' know any of the stories of what he' know any of the stories of what he' done. Now, done. Now, done. Now, >> how's that happen? All right, let me let >> how's that happen? All right, let me let >> how's that happen? All right, let me let me I want to connect some dots people me I want to connect some dots people me I want to connect some dots people usually don't connect. Okay, there's usually don't connect. Okay, there's usually don't connect. Okay, there's this verse in 2 Timothy 3 and hey man, this verse in 2 Timothy 3 and hey man, this verse in 2 Timothy 3 and hey man, we don't know the dates or times when we don't know the dates or times when we don't know the dates or times when Christ is going to return. We are going Christ is going to return. We are going Christ is going to return. We are going to know the times and the seasons. So it to know the times and the seasons. So it to know the times and the seasons. So it tells us something about that and it tells us something about that and it tells us something about that and it says in the last days it says there will says in the last days it says there will says in the last days it says there will be terrible times and what it says is so be terrible times and what it says is so be terrible times and what it says is so there's going to be a great falling there's going to be a great falling there's going to be a great falling away. There's going to be an apostasy.

away. There's going to be an apostasy. away. There's going to be an apostasy. People who used to say they were on team People who used to say they were on team People who used to say they were on team Jesus now they're not on team Jesus Jesus now they're not on team Jesus Jesus now they're not on team Jesus anymore. That's an apostasy. anymore. That's an apostasy. anymore. That's an apostasy. >> It says in that time people will watch >> It says in that time people will watch >> It says in that time people will watch this. they will have a form of godliness this. they will have a form of godliness this. they will have a form of godliness but denying its power. but denying its power. but denying its power. >> So dude, here's what I've seen and this >> So dude, here's what I've seen and this >> So dude, here's what I've seen and this is for like all the moms and dads and is for like all the moms and dads and is for like all the moms and dads and actually if we want to talk about this, actually if we want to talk about this, actually if we want to talk about this, I'd like to talk about it for just a I'd like to talk about it for just a I'd like to talk about it for just a quick second, but for all the moms and quick second, but for all the moms and quick second, but for all the moms and dads and all the grandparents and all dads and all the grandparents and all dads and all the grandparents and all and the people who are going to have and the people who are going to have and the people who are going to have kids someday here, here's the thing. kids someday here, here's the thing. kids someday here, here's the thing. What I've seen is, okay, I said form of What I've seen is, okay, I said form of What I've seen is, okay, I said form of godliness but denying his power. That's godliness but denying his power. That's godliness but denying his power. That's why they fell away. There's here's the why they fell away. There's here's the why they fell away. There's here's the three generation slide from a generation three generation slide from a generation three generation slide from a generation of people who are like all out walking of people who are like all out walking of people who are like all out walking with Jesus to their grandkids don't know with Jesus to their grandkids don't know with Jesus to their grandkids don't know the Lord or his or the things he done. the Lord or his or the things he done. the Lord or his or the things he done. >> The first generation, they know God and >> The first generation, they know God and >> The first generation, they know God and they see his power. they see his power. they see his power. The second generation, you know, anytime The second generation, you know, anytime The second generation, you know, anytime there's like the power of God, move of there's like the power of God, move of there's like the power of God, move of the spirit, all that stuff, there's some the spirit, all that stuff, there's some the spirit, all that stuff, there's some weird stuff. That's how it always works. weird stuff. That's how it always works. weird stuff. That's how it always works. any move of the spirit. This is this is any move of the spirit. This is this is any move of the spirit. This is this is a little takeaway. In any revival or a little takeaway. In any revival or a little takeaway. In any revival or move of the spirit, it's going to be 80% move of the spirit, it's going to be 80% move of the spirit, it's going to be 80% God, 10% man, and 10% Satan. They're God, 10% man, and 10% Satan. They're God, 10% man, and 10% Satan. They're going to try to get up in there and do going to try to get up in there and do going to try to get up in there and do some weird stuff and make people So some weird stuff and make people So some weird stuff and make people So >> So the second generation, they'll see >> So the second generation, they'll see >> So the second generation, they'll see some weird things done in the name of some weird things done in the name of some weird things done in the name of the power of God, in the name of the the power of God, in the name of the the power of God, in the name of the Holy Spirit. And so they'll they'll know Holy Spirit. And so they'll they'll know Holy Spirit. And so they'll they'll know God, but then they'll they'll reject the God, but then they'll they'll reject the God, but then they'll they'll reject the power. They're like, "Yeah, I want God, power. They're like, "Yeah, I want God, power. They're like, "Yeah, I want God, but don't don't do the P." The weird but don't don't do the P." The weird but don't don't do the P." The weird stuff happens when you do the power. I stuff happens when you do the power. I stuff happens when you do the power. I don't want the power. Okay. But then the don't want the power. Okay. But then the don't want the power. Okay. But then the third generation they reject God because third generation they reject God because third generation they reject God because they saw no power.

they saw no power. they saw no power. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Three generations slide. Okay. That is >> Three generations slide. Okay. That is >> Three generations slide. Okay. That is why and I got a whole little thing on why and I got a whole little thing on why and I got a whole little thing on this. In my opinion um charismatic this. In my opinion um charismatic this. In my opinion um charismatic Christians like people who you know high Christians like people who you know high Christians like people who you know high belief in uh the power of the spirit belief in uh the power of the spirit belief in uh the power of the spirit relationship with the Holy Spirit. In my relationship with the Holy Spirit. In my relationship with the Holy Spirit. In my opinion bro just watching over the years opinion bro just watching over the years opinion bro just watching over the years charismatic Christians don't deconstruct charismatic Christians don't deconstruct charismatic Christians don't deconstruct their faith as much. their faith as much. their faith as much. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> In my opinion. The reason I say that, >> In my opinion. The reason I say that, >> In my opinion. The reason I say that, dude, dude, dude, >> is >> is >> is my little thing is uh if an argument got my little thing is uh if an argument got my little thing is uh if an argument got you into the faith you into the faith you into the faith >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> then a better argument can get you out. >> then a better argument can get you out. >> then a better argument can get you out. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But nobody can argue you out of an >> But nobody can argue you out of an >> But nobody can argue you out of an encounter with a living God. encounter with a living God. encounter with a living God. >> Yeah. I I I I see that. I mean, uh I >> Yeah. I I I I see that. I mean, uh I >> Yeah. I I I I see that. I mean, uh I came from obviously a charismatic came from obviously a charismatic came from obviously a charismatic Pentecostal background, but I've seen Pentecostal background, but I've seen Pentecostal background, but I've seen some things and experienced some things some things and experienced some things some things and experienced some things that I like at some point like I will that I like at some point like I will that I like at some point like I will never forget this and I have zero never forget this and I have zero never forget this and I have zero explanation unless the Lord is real. I'm explanation unless the Lord is real. I'm explanation unless the Lord is real. I'm I'm not going anywhere. Same dude. Same I'm not going anywhere. Same dude. Same I'm not going anywhere. Same dude. Same dude. Exact same thing. dude. Exact same thing. dude. Exact same thing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So I I just like when this passage is >> So I I just like when this passage is >> So I I just like when this passage is talking about a race, like as a dad, talking about a race, like as a dad, talking about a race, like as a dad, when I open my Bible and I read those when I open my Bible and I read those when I open my Bible and I read those verses, I got to have a bigger vision verses, I got to have a bigger vision verses, I got to have a bigger vision than just my race. My job is to make than just my race. My job is to make than just my race. My job is to make sure that the next generation at to the sure that the next generation at to the sure that the next generation at to the best of my ability is running their best of my ability is running their best of my ability is running their race.

race. race. >> That's That's good. It's funny this >> That's That's good. It's funny this >> That's That's good. It's funny this morning. So I'm reading the Bible in morning. So I'm reading the Bible in morning. So I'm reading the Bible in order. And so literally, I'm just in the order. And so literally, I'm just in the order. And so literally, I'm just in the Old Testament right now, and I finished Old Testament right now, and I finished Old Testament right now, and I finished reading. reading. reading. >> Are you doing chronological order? or >> Are you doing chronological order? or >> Are you doing chronological order? or you just reading like you just reading like you just reading like >> oh just my Bible like literally >> oh just my Bible like literally >> oh just my Bible like literally >> it's like straight through Genesis. >> it's like straight through Genesis. >> it's like straight through Genesis. >> I started like I I go slowly. So I >> I started like I I go slowly. So I >> I started like I I go slowly. So I started like two years ago in the New started like two years ago in the New started like two years ago in the New Testament and literally just like read Testament and literally just like read Testament and literally just like read it in order and I'm in like the prophets it in order and I'm in like the prophets it in order and I'm in like the prophets right now in the Old Testament. I just right now in the Old Testament. I just right now in the Old Testament. I just finished reading Jonah and we all we all finished reading Jonah and we all we all finished reading Jonah and we all we all know that Jonah's story. He goes to know that Jonah's story. He goes to know that Jonah's story. He goes to Nineveh preaches the gospel and and Nineveh preaches the gospel and and Nineveh preaches the gospel and and basically everybody repents. It was like basically everybody repents. It was like basically everybody repents. It was like a whole revival in a in a very quote a whole revival in a in a very quote a whole revival in a in a very quote wicked city. wicked city. wicked city. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Then and now I just started today the >> Then and now I just started today the >> Then and now I just started today the book of Naam which you know nobody book of Naam which you know nobody book of Naam which you know nobody that's it doesn't get a lot of it's not that's it doesn't get a lot of it's not that's it doesn't get a lot of it's not a very popular book. Not a lot of people a very popular book. Not a lot of people a very popular book. Not a lot of people woke up this morning. You know, I'm I'm woke up this morning. You know, I'm I'm woke up this morning. You know, I'm I'm hoping they talk about Nah today on the hoping they talk about Nah today on the hoping they talk about Nah today on the podcast. podcast. podcast. >> Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Nah. So, I >> Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Nah. So, I >> Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Nah. So, I just started the book of Nahim and the just started the book of Nahim and the just started the book of Nahim and the first like the title is like a first like the title is like a first like the title is like a condemnation over the people of Nineveh. condemnation over the people of Nineveh. condemnation over the people of Nineveh. And I'm like, wait, Jonah already And I'm like, wait, Jonah already And I'm like, wait, Jonah already preached repentance and uh it was preached repentance and uh it was preached repentance and uh it was revival happening all over. Bingo. revival happening all over. Bingo. revival happening all over. Bingo. >> And then I'm like and then I'm I'm >> And then I'm like and then I'm I'm >> And then I'm like and then I'm I'm researching a little bit and it's like, researching a little bit and it's like, researching a little bit and it's like, oh, that was a different generation. oh, that was a different generation. oh, that was a different generation. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> So, revival happened and then over time >> So, revival happened and then over time >> So, revival happened and then over time what you said what you said happened what you said what you said happened what you said what you said happened happened. uh the baton was not passed happened. uh the baton was not passed happened. uh the baton was not passed and and then here comes uh Nahm and he's and and then here comes uh Nahm and he's and and then here comes uh Nahm and he's preaching uh basically hey God will preaching uh basically hey God will preaching uh basically hey God will judge you for your behavior because you judge you for your behavior because you judge you for your behavior because you fell away from basically your parents.

fell away from basically your parents. fell away from basically your parents. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> And so anyways uh I want to ask you >> And so anyways uh I want to ask you >> And so anyways uh I want to ask you this. this. this. >> A generation arose that knew not the >> A generation arose that knew not the >> A generation arose that knew not the Lord nor his mighty acts. Right. Lord nor his mighty acts. Right. Lord nor his mighty acts. Right. >> That's what happened. >> That's what happened. >> That's what happened. >> Chaos happened. And then uh Pastor Josh, >> Chaos happened. And then uh Pastor Josh, >> Chaos happened. And then uh Pastor Josh, this is not a a parenting podcast, but this is not a a parenting podcast, but this is not a a parenting podcast, but >> I do want to ask you, man. Um uh you I >> I do want to ask you, man. Um uh you I >> I do want to ask you, man. Um uh you I feel like you feel like you feel like you >> you know a lot about this. Um, how do >> you know a lot about this. Um, how do >> you know a lot about this. Um, how do you pass the baton to your kids? Like, you pass the baton to your kids? Like, you pass the baton to your kids? Like, give me give me something practical for give me give me something practical for give me give me something practical for people to know, man, this as a parent, people to know, man, this as a parent, people to know, man, this as a parent, this is what I need to keep in mind and this is what I need to keep in mind and this is what I need to keep in mind and this is what I need to do for my kids. this is what I need to do for my kids. this is what I need to do for my kids. >> Yeah. Well, let me just say I feel like >> Yeah. Well, let me just say I feel like >> Yeah. Well, let me just say I feel like honestly, dude, I feel like we need to honestly, dude, I feel like we need to honestly, dude, I feel like we need to talk about this more on the podcast. talk about this more on the podcast. talk about this more on the podcast. >> I should. >> I should. >> I should. >> The reason I say that is, you know, by >> The reason I say that is, you know, by >> The reason I say that is, you know, by the way, I'm just going to shout out the way, I'm just going to shout out the way, I'm just going to shout out shout out live free Nation. these guys, shout out live free Nation. these guys, shout out live free Nation. these guys, all these these kids like Car Carlos and all these these kids like Car Carlos and all these these kids like Car Carlos and everybody over here. Uh we did the we so everybody over here. Uh we did the we so everybody over here. Uh we did the we so we did a little SWAT analysis pod this we did a little SWAT analysis pod this we did a little SWAT analysis pod this week and these guy these guys are giving week and these guy these guys are giving week and these guy these guys are giving me data. I didn't know this stuff, dude. me data. I didn't know this stuff, dude. me data. I didn't know this stuff, dude. I just kind of walk in do my thing in I just kind of walk in do my thing in I just kind of walk in do my thing in here. I think there were a couple last here. I think there were a couple last here. I think there were a couple last couple months it's been like almost 6 couple months it's been like almost 6 couple months it's been like almost 6 million downloads of this this dumb million downloads of this this dumb million downloads of this this dumb little podcast. little podcast. little podcast. >> So, and what our data shows is a whole >> So, and what our data shows is a whole >> So, and what our data shows is a whole bunch of like bunch of like bunch of like >> younger guys and dads. So, honestly, >> younger guys and dads. So, honestly, >> younger guys and dads. So, honestly, heads up, we probably need to hit this heads up, we probably need to hit this heads up, we probably need to hit this more often. We might.

more often. We might. more often. We might. >> Uh, so let me say a few things here. Um, >> Uh, so let me say a few things here. Um, >> Uh, so let me say a few things here. Um, because right now there's like nothing because right now there's like nothing because right now there's like nothing more important in my life. Uh, first of more important in my life. Uh, first of more important in my life. Uh, first of all, let me tell you a mentality shift all, let me tell you a mentality shift all, let me tell you a mentality shift that I've had. Um, when I was a younger that I've had. Um, when I was a younger that I've had. Um, when I was a younger pastor, and maybe there's nothing wrong pastor, and maybe there's nothing wrong pastor, and maybe there's nothing wrong with this. Uh, dude, I would travel over with this. Uh, dude, I would travel over with this. Uh, dude, I would travel over land and see if there was a pastor whose land and see if there was a pastor whose land and see if there was a pastor whose church was blowing up and he was church was blowing up and he was church was blowing up and he was faithfully preaching the gospel uh, and faithfully preaching the gospel uh, and faithfully preaching the gospel uh, and seeing a move of God. Like, dude, I seeing a move of God. Like, dude, I seeing a move of God. Like, dude, I would for real. I I've I've slept in would for real. I I've I've slept in would for real. I I've I've slept in parking lots. I've driven 16 hours in a parking lots. I've driven 16 hours in a parking lots. I've driven 16 hours in a day for a 30-minute meeting. You know, day for a 30-minute meeting. You know, day for a 30-minute meeting. You know, all the things if if guys doing that. all the things if if guys doing that. all the things if if guys doing that. I'll be honest, dude. At this point in I'll be honest, dude. At this point in I'll be honest, dude. At this point in my life, uh I don't care if your church my life, uh I don't care if your church my life, uh I don't care if your church is 50,000 people. is 50,000 people. is 50,000 people. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I honestly I don't care. Um, if there's >> I honestly I don't care. Um, if there's >> I honestly I don't care. Um, if there's a pastor who uh his kids are grown and a pastor who uh his kids are grown and a pastor who uh his kids are grown and they love him and they love the Lord and they love him and they love the Lord and they love him and they love the Lord and they love each other, uh, I I'll be they love each other, uh, I I'll be they love each other, uh, I I'll be honest, I'll I'll plan entire vacations honest, I'll I'll plan entire vacations honest, I'll I'll plan entire vacations to spend time with that guy. In fact, to spend time with that guy. In fact, to spend time with that guy. In fact, just shout out Jan and I twice have just shout out Jan and I twice have just shout out Jan and I twice have taken vac and some and by the way, if taken vac and some and by the way, if taken vac and some and by the way, if you're listening, please understand like you're listening, please understand like you're listening, please understand like I'm not this is not bragging. I'm trying I'm not this is not bragging. I'm trying I'm not this is not bragging. I'm trying to put things in perspective. You know, to put things in perspective. You know, to put things in perspective. You know, it's like Lake Point. We'll have I don't it's like Lake Point. We'll have I don't it's like Lake Point. We'll have I don't know. I bet when the numbers come in, know. I bet when the numbers come in, know. I bet when the numbers come in, we'll have almost 35,000 people here we'll have almost 35,000 people here we'll have almost 35,000 people here this last week.

this last week. this last week. Uh twice Jan and I have flown to this Uh twice Jan and I have flown to this Uh twice Jan and I have flown to this remote corner that's nearly impossible remote corner that's nearly impossible remote corner that's nearly impossible to get to of Wanachi, Washington. to get to of Wanachi, Washington. to get to of Wanachi, Washington. >> Shut up. >> Shut up. >> Shut up. >> Yeah. The People's Republic of >> Yeah. The People's Republic of >> Yeah. The People's Republic of Washington Washington Washington uh to spend time vacationing in the home uh to spend time vacationing in the home uh to spend time vacationing in the home of a guy named Josh McFersonen of a guy named Josh McFersonen of a guy named Josh McFersonen whose church is I don't know I don't whose church is I don't know I don't whose church is I don't know I don't know two 2,000 guys which is by the way know two 2,000 guys which is by the way know two 2,000 guys which is by the way that's an amazing church. Let me just that's an amazing church. Let me just that's an amazing church. Let me just say that. Yeah. in Washington, man. But say that. Yeah. in Washington, man. But say that. Yeah. in Washington, man. But I think a lot of people would go like, I think a lot of people would go like, I think a lot of people would go like, "Well, why would you "Well, why would you "Well, why would you >> when your church is that size go over >> when your church is that size go over >> when your church is that size go over there?" Well, you know why, man? there?" Well, you know why, man? there?" Well, you know why, man? >> Because I dude, honestly, great. Cool, >> Because I dude, honestly, great. Cool, >> Because I dude, honestly, great. Cool, man. Your church's 50,000 people. That's man. Your church's 50,000 people. That's man. Your church's 50,000 people. That's so cool. When I'm an old man drooling on so cool. When I'm an old man drooling on so cool. When I'm an old man drooling on myself in a rocking chair and hold my myself in a rocking chair and hold my myself in a rocking chair and hold my wife's hand on the back porch. Do you wife's hand on the back porch. Do you wife's hand on the back porch. Do you know what I'm not going to care about a know what I'm not going to care about a know what I'm not going to care about a whole lot? whole lot? whole lot? >> If my church made it to 50,000, you >> If my church made it to 50,000, you >> If my church made it to 50,000, you know, I am going to care a lot about know, I am going to care a lot about know, I am going to care a lot about >> are my three kids. Do they love Jesus? >> are my three kids. Do they love Jesus? >> are my three kids. Do they love Jesus? And do they love me? And so now, dude, And do they love me? And so now, dude, And do they love me? And so now, dude, I'll travel over land and see. So, um, I'll travel over land and see. So, um, I'll travel over land and see. So, um, I'm right now I'll just, you know, shoot I'm right now I'll just, you know, shoot I'm right now I'll just, you know, shoot you real straight. Uh, it's a weird, you real straight. Uh, it's a weird, you real straight. Uh, it's a weird, honestly, dude, we didn't plan to maybe honestly, dude, we didn't plan to maybe honestly, dude, we didn't plan to maybe talk about this part. It's a weird part talk about this part. It's a weird part talk about this part. It's a weird part of my life where like all these, uh, of my life where like all these, uh, of my life where like all these, uh, opportunities opportunities opportunities are o opening to me that honestly when I are o opening to me that honestly when I are o opening to me that honestly when I was a little kid and God called me to was a little kid and God called me to was a little kid and God called me to ministry, ministry, ministry, uh, it's like all this stuff that I was uh, it's like all this stuff that I was uh, it's like all this stuff that I was like, man, someday, like, man, someday, like, man, someday, >> yeah, >> yeah, >> yeah, >> what if Lord do it in my gener, you >> what if Lord do it in my gener, you >> what if Lord do it in my gener, you know?

know? know? >> Yeah. And honestly, dude, I'm saying no >> Yeah. And honestly, dude, I'm saying no >> Yeah. And honestly, dude, I'm saying no to like seriously, I'm not joking. Like, to like seriously, I'm not joking. Like, to like seriously, I'm not joking. Like, >> I see it. I see it. >> I see it. I see it. >> I see it. I see it. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> And uh and you know why? Uh it's because >> And uh and you know why? Uh it's because >> And uh and you know why? Uh it's because uh I got three kids who are um 15, 11, uh I got three kids who are um 15, 11, uh I got three kids who are um 15, 11, and seven. and seven. and seven. And uh what God has given me a And uh what God has given me a And uh what God has given me a responsibility for those three kids that responsibility for those three kids that responsibility for those three kids that is different than the responsibility I is different than the responsibility I is different than the responsibility I have for anybody else. have for anybody else. have for anybody else. And so like right now the thing that I'm And so like right now the thing that I'm And so like right now the thing that I'm focused on is focused on is focused on is running this race, the relay race, not running this race, the relay race, not running this race, the relay race, not just my part of the race, the relay just my part of the race, the relay just my part of the race, the relay race. race. race. >> The race that have been has been set >> The race that have been has been set >> The race that have been has been set before you, not that race or some other before you, not that race or some other before you, not that race or some other race out there. race out there. race out there. >> Bingo. So like let me let me just All >> Bingo. So like let me let me just All >> Bingo. So like let me let me just All right, for the dads, I'm just going to right, for the dads, I'm just going to right, for the dads, I'm just going to like I'm first of all, I'm in it with like I'm first of all, I'm in it with like I'm first of all, I'm in it with you. Uh I'm failing forward with you. you. Uh I'm failing forward with you. you. Uh I'm failing forward with you. All the things I need all the grace you All the things I need all the grace you All the things I need all the grace you have. And I always want to give a quick have. And I always want to give a quick have. And I always want to give a quick caveat um that there are I I c I do not caveat um that there are I I c I do not caveat um that there are I I c I do not think I do not see in the Bible a think I do not see in the Bible a think I do not see in the Bible a promise that is a math formula. If you promise that is a math formula. If you promise that is a math formula. If you do this, God promises this will happen do this, God promises this will happen do this, God promises this will happen for your kids.

for your kids. for your kids. >> Uh there's a whole little thing that I >> Uh there's a whole little thing that I >> Uh there's a whole little thing that I could do. I'm not going to deep dive it, could do. I'm not going to deep dive it, could do. I'm not going to deep dive it, but if you go back to the Garden of but if you go back to the Garden of but if you go back to the Garden of Eden, Eden, you have a perfect father. Eden, Eden, you have a perfect father. Eden, Eden, you have a perfect father. Like God's literally the father. Like God's literally the father. Like God's literally the father. >> You have a perfect environment, Eden. >> You have a perfect environment, Eden. >> You have a perfect environment, Eden. There's not even any sin in Eden. You There's not even any sin in Eden. You There's not even any sin in Eden. You have perfect children with no innate sin have perfect children with no innate sin have perfect children with no innate sin nature nature nature >> and yet perfect father, perfect >> and yet perfect father, perfect >> and yet perfect father, perfect environment, perfect children still environment, perfect children still environment, perfect children still equaled rebellion. equaled rebellion. equaled rebellion. >> Oh wow. >> Oh wow. >> Oh wow. >> So I just want to point out if if >> So I just want to point out if if >> So I just want to point out if if there's a parent that like maybe or a there's a parent that like maybe or a there's a parent that like maybe or a grandparent and maybe your age starts grandparent and maybe your age starts grandparent and maybe your age starts with a five, six, seven and your kid with a five, six, seven and your kid with a five, six, seven and your kid isn't it's not like you wish it was. isn't it's not like you wish it was. isn't it's not like you wish it was. What I I I just want to lift a little What I I I just want to lift a little What I I I just want to lift a little shame on you that hey man kids got their shame on you that hey man kids got their shame on you that hey man kids got their own they make their own decisions. That own they make their own decisions. That own they make their own decisions. That said, said, said, >> that's good. >> that's good. >> that's good. >> That said, our job is to do everything >> That said, our job is to do everything >> That said, our job is to do everything we got to to transfer the things. So, we got to to transfer the things. So, we got to to transfer the things. So, I'm just I'm going to give you three I'm just I'm going to give you three I'm just I'm going to give you three little hacks. little hacks. little hacks. >> Right now, Lord willing, oh Lord, make >> Right now, Lord willing, oh Lord, make >> Right now, Lord willing, oh Lord, make this be true for the next till I'm dead. this be true for the next till I'm dead. this be true for the next till I'm dead. Till all my kids are dead right now. All Till all my kids are dead right now. All Till all my kids are dead right now. All three of my kids, they Hudson just gave three of my kids, they Hudson just gave three of my kids, they Hudson just gave his life to Christ. I have not announced his life to Christ. I have not announced his life to Christ. I have not announced that on the podcast.

that on the podcast. that on the podcast. >> That's amazing that we're celebrating >> That's amazing that we're celebrating >> That's amazing that we're celebrating >> this big. He went to the new Christians >> this big. He went to the new Christians >> this big. He went to the new Christians classes last week. It's been so awesome, classes last week. It's been so awesome, classes last week. It's been so awesome, dude. Bro, can I tell you a story? All dude. Bro, can I tell you a story? All dude. Bro, can I tell you a story? All right. I know this is getting obvious right. I know this is getting obvious right. I know this is getting obvious belaboring this thing. belaboring this thing. belaboring this thing. >> We want to know >> We want to know >> We want to know >> it was the best dude. So Hudson, this >> it was the best dude. So Hudson, this >> it was the best dude. So Hudson, this was the best dude. Hudson 7 prays on the was the best dude. Hudson 7 prays on the was the best dude. Hudson 7 prays on the back porch with Jada to trust Christ. back porch with Jada to trust Christ. back porch with Jada to trust Christ. All right. All right. All right. >> So he tells you all about all excited. >> So he tells you all about all excited. >> So he tells you all about all excited. So the next week we fly over to high So the next week we fly over to high So the next week we fly over to high school camp and we take Hudson. school camp and we take Hudson. school camp and we take Hudson. And just to let all the Christian And just to let all the Christian And just to let all the Christian families in on how it works, families in on how it works, families in on how it works, Hudson is he doesn't have the natural Hudson is he doesn't have the natural Hudson is he doesn't have the natural disposition to just like church. He's a disposition to just like church. He's a disposition to just like church. He's a seven-year-old boy that wants to run seven-year-old boy that wants to run seven-year-old boy that wants to run around and pee in the yard and throw around and pee in the yard and throw around and pee in the yard and throw sticks at things. So, like is like, you sticks at things. So, like is like, you sticks at things. So, like is like, you know, so far we're doing the thing that know, so far we're doing the thing that know, so far we're doing the thing that you got to do as a parent where it's you got to do as a parent where it's you got to do as a parent where it's like, well, we don't care if you like it like, well, we don't care if you like it like, well, we don't care if you like it or not. We're a Christian family. And or not. We're a Christian family. And or not. We're a Christian family. And so, yeah. And so, we just are constantly so, yeah. And so, we just are constantly so, yeah. And so, we just are constantly like, "Oh, buddy, we get to go to like, "Oh, buddy, we get to go to like, "Oh, buddy, we get to go to church." So, we're doing that. So, all church." So, we're doing that. So, all church." So, we're doing that. So, all this. So, we go to high school camp this. So, we go to high school camp this. So, we go to high school camp >> and uh and it's time we're uh we're >> and uh and it's time we're uh we're >> and uh and it's time we're uh we're getting ready to bring him to worship. getting ready to bring him to worship. getting ready to bring him to worship. This is one week after we became a This is one week after we became a This is one week after we became a Christian.

Christian. Christian. >> Yes. And he says at high school camp, >> Yes. And he says at high school camp, >> Yes. And he says at high school camp, "Ah, do I have to go to worship? Dad, do "Ah, do I have to go to worship? Dad, do "Ah, do I have to go to worship? Dad, do I have to go to worship?" And I do the I have to go to worship?" And I do the I have to go to worship?" And I do the thing I've always been doing. Oh buddy, thing I've always been doing. Oh buddy, thing I've always been doing. Oh buddy, we get to go to worship. It's going to we get to go to worship. It's going to we get to go to worship. It's going to be so fun. You know that kind of stuff. be so fun. You know that kind of stuff. be so fun. You know that kind of stuff. So we get there in the middle of the So we get there in the middle of the So we get there in the middle of the deal. Actually, Chad G. Paul is sitting deal. Actually, Chad G. Paul is sitting deal. Actually, Chad G. Paul is sitting next to Hudson. Okay. Okay. At high next to Hudson. Okay. Okay. At high next to Hudson. Okay. Okay. At high school camp. And he text me this school camp. And he text me this school camp. And he text me this picture. This has never happened before. picture. This has never happened before. picture. This has never happened before. I wish I'd had it. Dad gam it. He text I wish I'd had it. Dad gam it. He text I wish I'd had it. Dad gam it. He text me this picture of Hudson is in the me this picture of Hudson is in the me this picture of Hudson is in the front row of the balcony, hands in the front row of the balcony, hands in the front row of the balcony, hands in the air singing. air singing. air singing. >> I saw that. >> I saw that. >> I saw that. >> I post on IG story. So, he's singing. >> I post on IG story. So, he's singing. >> I post on IG story. So, he's singing. So, then we get done and I ask Hudson So, then we get done and I ask Hudson So, then we get done and I ask Hudson the same question I've asked him every the same question I've asked him every the same question I've asked him every day for seven years. Buddy, uh, how was day for seven years. Buddy, uh, how was day for seven years. Buddy, uh, how was worship? And usually he's like, I was worship? And usually he's like, I was worship? And usually he's like, I was ready to get home. Are we going to play ready to get home. Are we going to play ready to get home. Are we going to play Mario Kart Dad? You know, whatever. Mario Kart Dad? You know, whatever. Mario Kart Dad? You know, whatever. >> So, this time, for the first time ever, >> So, this time, for the first time ever, >> So, this time, for the first time ever, Hudson goes, it was so fun. Okay, so Hudson goes, it was so fun. Okay, so Hudson goes, it was so fun. Okay, so here's what I did. I stop and I'm like, here's what I did. I stop and I'm like, here's what I did. I stop and I'm like, "Hey buddy, can I explain something to "Hey buddy, can I explain something to "Hey buddy, can I explain something to you?" So, Hudson, here's what happened. you?" So, Hudson, here's what happened. you?" So, Hudson, here's what happened. Do you know why worship was never fun Do you know why worship was never fun Do you know why worship was never fun for you and then this week it was fun for you and then this week it was fun for you and then this week it was fun for you for the first time? You see for you for the first time? You see for you for the first time? You see where I'm going?

where I'm going? where I'm going? >> Well, here's why, buddy. Because you >> Well, here's why, buddy. Because you >> Well, here's why, buddy. Because you just became a Christian. And when you just became a Christian. And when you just became a Christian. And when you gave your life to Jesus, God filled you gave your life to Jesus, God filled you gave your life to Jesus, God filled you with his spirit. And the Holy Spirit with his spirit. And the Holy Spirit with his spirit. And the Holy Spirit inside of you, buddy, he likes to inside of you, buddy, he likes to inside of you, buddy, he likes to worship Jesus. And now he lives in you. worship Jesus. And now he lives in you. worship Jesus. And now he lives in you. And that's why you like to worship Jesus And that's why you like to worship Jesus And that's why you like to worship Jesus for the first time in your life. and for the first time in your life. and for the first time in your life. and he's like, "You're right, Dad." You're a he's like, "You're right, Dad." You're a he's like, "You're right, Dad." You're a seven-year-old. You're right, Dad. And seven-year-old. You're right, Dad. And seven-year-old. You're right, Dad. And dude, then you said this. This is the dude, then you said this. This is the dude, then you said this. This is the best. Uh, Chachi Paul, we didn't plan to best. Uh, Chachi Paul, we didn't plan to best. Uh, Chachi Paul, we didn't plan to talk about any of this. I'm just telling talk about any of this. I'm just telling talk about any of this. I'm just telling this. So, if you're a dad or a parent, this. So, if you're a dad or a parent, this. So, if you're a dad or a parent, hopefully what you're doing is you're hopefully what you're doing is you're hopefully what you're doing is you're like, "Let's hear the story. This is like, "Let's hear the story. This is like, "Let's hear the story. This is what it looks like to do this stuff with what it looks like to do this stuff with what it looks like to do this stuff with your kids." your kids." your kids." So, Chie B's up there and it's the night So, Chie B's up there and it's the night So, Chie B's up there and it's the night Clayton King gives the invitation and Clayton King gives the invitation and Clayton King gives the invitation and 170 students hear Christ at the same 170 students hear Christ at the same 170 students hear Christ at the same time. All the students are walking back time. All the students are walking back time. All the students are walking back and uh and Hudson after the service, and uh and Hudson after the service, and uh and Hudson after the service, Paul asked him, "What did you think of Paul asked him, "What did you think of Paul asked him, "What did you think of all the students their lives to Christ?" all the students their lives to Christ?" all the students their lives to Christ?" And Hudson tells Paul, "Man, I got a And Hudson tells Paul, "Man, I got a And Hudson tells Paul, "Man, I got a whole bunch of new brothers in Christ." whole bunch of new brothers in Christ." whole bunch of new brothers in Christ." But then he said this, "But my favorite But then he said this, "But my favorite But then he said this, "But my favorite one's my dad."

one's my dad." one's my dad." >> He actually said that. He actually said >> He actually said that. He actually said >> He actually said that. He actually said that. And I was like, you know, I'm that. And I was like, you know, I'm that. And I was like, you know, I'm like, you know, I'm not a big emotional like, you know, I'm not a big emotional like, you know, I'm not a big emotional guy. My eyes are sweating. I'm like, guy. My eyes are sweating. I'm like, guy. My eyes are sweating. I'm like, "This is the greatest thing ever." All "This is the greatest thing ever." All "This is the greatest thing ever." All right. So, anyway, right. So, anyway, right. So, anyway, >> and that speaks that speaks to you you >> and that speaks that speaks to you you >> and that speaks that speaks to you you living out your faith at home and he living out your faith at home and he living out your faith at home and he gets a first uh he gets to see that gets a first uh he gets to see that gets a first uh he gets to see that first hand. first hand. first hand. >> So, let me give on that note. Let me >> So, let me give on that note. Let me >> So, let me give on that note. Let me give three little parenting hacks. Okay. give three little parenting hacks. Okay. give three little parenting hacks. Okay. >> So, I'm a third generation pastor's kid. >> So, I'm a third generation pastor's kid. >> So, I'm a third generation pastor's kid. >> I grew up, you know, 80s maybe 90s made >> I grew up, you know, 80s maybe 90s made >> I grew up, you know, 80s maybe 90s made me. When I was uh in high school, it was me. When I was uh in high school, it was me. When I was uh in high school, it was like it was like sort of the edgy cool like it was like sort of the edgy cool like it was like sort of the edgy cool thing for pastors kids to rebel. That thing for pastors kids to rebel. That thing for pastors kids to rebel. That was like, "Ah, that's cool, man. I'm was like, "Ah, that's cool, man. I'm was like, "Ah, that's cool, man. I'm gonna bronze my hair and go emo and gonna bronze my hair and go emo and gonna bronze my hair and go emo and rebel against, you know, that's that was rebel against, you know, that's that was rebel against, you know, that's that was kind of like the vibe when I was in high kind of like the vibe when I was in high kind of like the vibe when I was in high school." school." school." >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> I do. I'll be honest, I never understood >> I do. I'll be honest, I never understood >> I do. I'll be honest, I never understood that. that. that. >> Like, it made no sense to me because I >> Like, it made no sense to me because I >> Like, it made no sense to me because I stinking loved being Pastor Rick's son. stinking loved being Pastor Rick's son. stinking loved being Pastor Rick's son. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> I It was like the greatest thing ever. I >> I It was like the greatest thing ever. I >> I It was like the greatest thing ever. I love being a pastor's kid. I love being love being a pastor's kid. I love being love being a pastor's kid. I love being Pastor Rick Howard's son. Pastor Rick Howard's son. Pastor Rick Howard's son. >> So, dude, I here Here's I'm gonna give >> So, dude, I here Here's I'm gonna give >> So, dude, I here Here's I'm gonna give you.

you. you. >> I'm not surprised, by the way. >> I'm not surprised, by the way. >> I'm not surprised, by the way. >> That's it. You know, my dad, I had >> That's it. You know, my dad, I had >> That's it. You know, my dad, I had breakfast with my dad right before this. breakfast with my dad right before this. breakfast with my dad right before this. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. So, there are three things that when I So, there are three things that when I So, there are three things that when I look back, I'm like, "My dad did those look back, I'm like, "My dad did those look back, I'm like, "My dad did those three things and that hooked me and I three things and that hooked me and I three things and that hooked me and I didn't even know it hooked me when it didn't even know it hooked me when it didn't even know it hooked me when it happened." Okay, so I'm going to rapid happened." Okay, so I'm going to rapid happened." Okay, so I'm going to rapid fire these. Number one, and I'm doing fire these. Number one, and I'm doing fire these. Number one, and I'm doing these with my kids. Number one, your these with my kids. Number one, your these with my kids. Number one, your faith doesn't got to Let me start. faith doesn't got to Let me start. faith doesn't got to Let me start. Number one, your faith doesn't got to be Number one, your faith doesn't got to be Number one, your faith doesn't got to be perfect. It does got to be real. perfect. It does got to be real. perfect. It does got to be real. >> All right. So, so here's what I mean by >> All right. So, so here's what I mean by >> All right. So, so here's what I mean by this, dude. My dad's a pastor growing this, dude. My dad's a pastor growing this, dude. My dad's a pastor growing up. So, I'm watching him growing up. up. So, I'm watching him growing up. up. So, I'm watching him growing up. He's in the front row of every service He's in the front row of every service He's in the front row of every service all the time and we you know we're all the time and we you know we're all the time and we you know we're forced to hit the front row as a result. forced to hit the front row as a result. forced to hit the front row as a result. So like dude this is a this was a normal So like dude this is a this was a normal So like dude this is a this was a normal occurrence for me as a kid. You know I'd occurrence for me as a kid. You know I'd occurrence for me as a kid. You know I'd look over and my dad's getting ready to look over and my dad's getting ready to look over and my dad's getting ready to do something in the service is in the do something in the service is in the do something in the service is in the middle of worship and I look over and my middle of worship and I look over and my middle of worship and I look over and my dad who's also not a naturally super dad who's also not a naturally super dad who's also not a naturally super emotional guy. There's just little tears emotional guy. There's just little tears emotional guy. There's just little tears coming while he's singing the hymn or coming while he's singing the hymn or coming while he's singing the hymn or whatever the thing is. Okay. Okay. Well, whatever the thing is. Okay. Okay. Well, whatever the thing is. Okay. Okay. Well, here's the deal. I'm watching him and here's the deal. I'm watching him and here's the deal. I'm watching him and what I'm seeing is he's not leading a what I'm seeing is he's not leading a what I'm seeing is he's not leading a service. He's worshiping a savior. And service. He's worshiping a savior. And service. He's worshiping a savior. And as a little kid, what I'm thinking is, as a little kid, what I'm thinking is, as a little kid, what I'm thinking is, man, I really want to know who he knows.

man, I really want to know who he knows. man, I really want to know who he knows. So, here's the thing. Did my dad seem So, here's the thing. Did my dad seem So, here's the thing. Did my dad seem perfect? Nope. And I guarantee my kids perfect? Nope. And I guarantee my kids perfect? Nope. And I guarantee my kids are looking at me as perfect. Nope. are looking at me as perfect. Nope. are looking at me as perfect. Nope. Capital N with a nope. Capital N with a nope. Capital N with a nope. >> Your faith doesn't got to be perfect. It >> Your faith doesn't got to be perfect. It >> Your faith doesn't got to be perfect. It does got to be real. Okay. Number two, does got to be real. Okay. Number two, does got to be real. Okay. Number two, and dude, this is super and dude, this is super and dude, this is super counterintuitive. All right. So, how you counterintuitive. All right. So, how you counterintuitive. All right. So, how you know you're a young dad, so internalize know you're a young dad, so internalize know you're a young dad, so internalize these, Carlos. these, Carlos. these, Carlos. >> Sure. Amen. I'm receiving it. >> Sure. Amen. I'm receiving it. >> Sure. Amen. I'm receiving it. >> So, this is what Okay. So, here here's >> So, this is what Okay. So, here here's >> So, this is what Okay. So, here here's the other one. All right. So, what the other one. All right. So, what the other one. All right. So, what everybody tells you when you're a everybody tells you when you're a everybody tells you when you're a younger dad and the grandparents, you younger dad and the grandparents, you younger dad and the grandparents, you need to think about this, too, is Hey, need to think about this, too, is Hey, need to think about this, too, is Hey, man. Here's the secret. You got to get man. Here's the secret. You got to get man. Here's the secret. You got to get down into your kids' worlds. down into your kids' worlds. down into your kids' worlds. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Carlos, are they into Coco Melon? You >> Carlos, are they into Coco Melon? You >> Carlos, are they into Coco Melon? You need to get into Coco Melon. need to get into Coco Melon. need to get into Coco Melon. >> We're not. But yeah. >> We're not. But yeah. >> We're not. But yeah. >> Yeah. Carlos, are they into, you know, >> Yeah. Carlos, are they into, you know, >> Yeah. Carlos, are they into, you know, Mario, whatever. Okay. Now, let me just Mario, whatever. Okay. Now, let me just Mario, whatever. Okay. Now, let me just say there may be some truth to that, say there may be some truth to that, say there may be some truth to that, maybe a good strategy until they're like maybe a good strategy until they're like maybe a good strategy until they're like six, seven, somewhere around there. But six, seven, somewhere around there. But six, seven, somewhere around there. But what I'd say is, hey, listen, there what I'd say is, hey, listen, there what I'd say is, hey, listen, there comes a point where you don't need to comes a point where you don't need to comes a point where you don't need to get down into their world. Here's what get down into their world. Here's what get down into their world. Here's what you need to do. You need to pull them up you need to do. You need to pull them up you need to do. You need to pull them up into your world. Here's why I say this, into your world. Here's why I say this, into your world. Here's why I say this, dude. This is, we got Bible verses for dude. This is, we got Bible verses for dude. This is, we got Bible verses for this, this, this, >> kids. I listen, if you're kids and >> kids. I listen, if you're kids and >> kids. I listen, if you're kids and you're listening to this, I love you, you're listening to this, I love you, you're listening to this, I love you, but you are a fool. Now, and that's not but you are a fool. Now, and that's not but you are a fool. Now, and that's not even mean. That's literally a Bible even mean. That's literally a Bible even mean. That's literally a Bible verse. Like, literally, the book of verse. Like, literally, the book of verse. Like, literally, the book of Proverbs says, "Foolishness is bound up Proverbs says, "Foolishness is bound up Proverbs says, "Foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child."

in the heart of a child." in the heart of a child." >> And if you disagree or you get offended, >> And if you disagree or you get offended, >> And if you disagree or you get offended, it proves the point. it proves the point. it proves the point. >> It proves the point. >> It proves the point. >> It proves the point. >> All right. So, here's the deal, man. All >> All right. So, here's the deal, man. All >> All right. So, here's the deal, man. All right. Dude, this is like total right. Dude, this is like total right. Dude, this is like total parenting hack. Okay. So, kids worlds parenting hack. Okay. So, kids worlds parenting hack. Okay. So, kids worlds are foolish are full of rebellion and are foolish are full of rebellion and are foolish are full of rebellion and foolishness. That so you don't want to foolishness. That so you don't want to foolishness. That so you don't want to get down into their world. You need to get down into their world. You need to get down into their world. You need to pull them up into your world. So, in pull them up into your world. So, in pull them up into your world. So, in fact, Carlos, th this is and Miles is fact, Carlos, th this is and Miles is fact, Carlos, th this is and Miles is over there. All the dads, everybody's over there. All the dads, everybody's over there. All the dads, everybody's over here. Okay, th this is like over here. Okay, th this is like over here. Okay, th this is like whenever you see one of your kids that whenever you see one of your kids that whenever you see one of your kids that they start getting a little wobble in they start getting a little wobble in they start getting a little wobble in the wheel. the wheel. the wheel. >> Okay, this is so important, dude. This >> Okay, this is so important, dude. This >> Okay, this is so important, dude. This is really, really important. Little is really, really important. Little is really, really important. Little parenting axiom. If you want to change parenting axiom. If you want to change parenting axiom. If you want to change the outputs, you got to change the the outputs, you got to change the the outputs, you got to change the inputs. If you want to change the inputs. If you want to change the inputs. If you want to change the outcomes, you got to change the inputs. outcomes, you got to change the inputs. outcomes, you got to change the inputs. So, anytime you see one of your kids, So, anytime you see one of your kids, So, anytime you see one of your kids, it's like, bro, they got a little wobble it's like, bro, they got a little wobble it's like, bro, they got a little wobble on a wheel. on a wheel. on a wheel. >> Okay, here here's what's going on. If >> Okay, here here's what's going on. If >> Okay, here here's what's going on. If you want to change your outcomes, look you want to change your outcomes, look you want to change your outcomes, look at their inputs. What kind of music are at their inputs. What kind of music are at their inputs. What kind of music are they listening to? they listening to? they listening to? >> That's great. >> That's great. >> That's great. >> What kind of TV shows are they watching? >> What kind of TV shows are they watching? >> What kind of TV shows are they watching? >> Here here's a big one. Who are their >> Here here's a big one. Who are their >> Here here's a big one. Who are their friends? friends? friends? >> Like honestly, that's like literally the >> Like honestly, that's like literally the >> Like honestly, that's like literally the biggest one. You determine your kids' biggest one. You determine your kids' biggest one. You determine your kids' friends. Okay. Ah, but they're kids and friends. Okay. Ah, but they're kids and friends. Okay. Ah, but they're kids and and they have their own. No, no. You're and they have their own. No, no. You're and they have their own. No, no. You're the parent. You're the authority. Okay.

the parent. You're the authority. Okay. the parent. You're the authority. Okay. So, it's like so so now let's apply this So, it's like so so now let's apply this So, it's like so so now let's apply this to this concept. If you want to run the to this concept. If you want to run the to this concept. If you want to run the race well, you want to run run the the race well, you want to run run the the race well, you want to run run the the relay race well, pass the baton. Well, relay race well, pass the baton. Well, relay race well, pass the baton. Well, you what you want to do as they get you what you want to do as they get you what you want to do as they get older is you don't get down into their older is you don't get down into their older is you don't get down into their world. You pull them up into your world. world. You pull them up into your world. world. You pull them up into your world. Here's what my dad did when when I Here's what my dad did when when I Here's what my dad did when when I turned like 13 and I started being a turned like 13 and I started being a turned like 13 and I started being a little interested in ministry. Like dad little interested in ministry. Like dad little interested in ministry. Like dad would have church staff lunches and he would have church staff lunches and he would have church staff lunches and he would like sometimes like literally pull would like sometimes like literally pull would like sometimes like literally pull me out of other stuff and be like, "Hey me out of other stuff and be like, "Hey me out of other stuff and be like, "Hey Josh, do you want to come? What the the Josh, do you want to come? What the the Josh, do you want to come? What the the whole church staff is going out to whole church staff is going out to whole church staff is going out to lunch? You want to come with us? lunch? You want to come with us? lunch? You want to come with us? So, here's what I'm doing. I'm growing So, here's what I'm doing. I'm growing So, here's what I'm doing. I'm growing up. Wa. Watch. Who am I surrounded by? up. Wa. Watch. Who am I surrounded by? up. Wa. Watch. Who am I surrounded by? Not evil, foolish idiots. Not evil, foolish idiots. Not evil, foolish idiots. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> He's pulling me up into a world of >> He's pulling me up into a world of >> He's pulling me up into a world of wisdom and righteousness. wisdom and righteousness. wisdom and righteousness. >> So now I'm looking at wise, righteous >> So now I'm looking at wise, righteous >> So now I'm looking at wise, righteous people. people. people. >> And what that does when you're 13, 14, >> And what that does when you're 13, 14, >> And what that does when you're 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 is you're going, hm, what do 15, 16, 17 is you're going, hm, what do 15, 16, 17 is you're going, hm, what do I I'm like looking up to these people. I I'm like looking up to these people. I I'm like looking up to these people. What type of life do I need to live to What type of life do I need to live to What type of life do I need to live to fit? This is how a 13-year-old thinks fit? This is how a 13-year-old thinks fit? This is how a 13-year-old thinks >> to fit in with the people that I respect >> to fit in with the people that I respect >> to fit in with the people that I respect the most. And it's not foolish, the most. And it's not foolish, the most. And it's not foolish, rebellious idiots.

rebellious idiots. rebellious idiots. >> It's wise, righteous, godly people. >> It's wise, righteous, godly people. >> It's wise, righteous, godly people. Listen, bro. That right there changes Listen, bro. That right there changes Listen, bro. That right there changes everything. So, I'll just let me just everything. So, I'll just let me just everything. So, I'll just let me just say one last thing on this and I'll do say one last thing on this and I'll do say one last thing on this and I'll do the third one. the third one. the third one. >> There Hillary Clinton wrote that book >> There Hillary Clinton wrote that book >> There Hillary Clinton wrote that book years ago. It's like about parenting. It years ago. It's like about parenting. It years ago. It's like about parenting. It takes a village. takes a village. takes a village. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. It's totally wrong. It's totally >> Okay. It's totally wrong. It's totally >> Okay. It's totally wrong. It's totally And here's why I say this, man. Um, And here's why I say this, man. Um, And here's why I say this, man. Um, people, it takes a village. I just need people, it takes a village. I just need people, it takes a village. I just need to get them around people. Okay. Well, to get them around people. Okay. Well, to get them around people. Okay. Well, here's the deal, Carlos. We didn't plan here's the deal, Carlos. We didn't plan here's the deal, Carlos. We didn't plan to talk about this. We're going to talk to talk about this. We're going to talk to talk about this. We're going to talk about Okay, here's the deal, Carlos. about Okay, here's the deal, Carlos. about Okay, here's the deal, Carlos. >> If the village is full of pagans, >> If the village is full of pagans, >> If the village is full of pagans, >> then pagan villages result in pagan >> then pagan villages result in pagan >> then pagan villages result in pagan children. So, check this out. It doesn't children. So, check this out. It doesn't children. So, check this out. It doesn't take a village. Do you know what it take a village. Do you know what it take a village. Do you know what it takes? It takes a redeemed village. takes? It takes a redeemed village. takes? It takes a redeemed village. >> Okay? >> Okay? >> Okay? >> The Bible calls that a church. >> The Bible calls that a church. >> The Bible calls that a church. Okay? So, what you need is, hey, man, as Okay? So, what you need is, hey, man, as Okay? So, what you need is, hey, man, as your kids get older, you're not getting your kids get older, you're not getting your kids get older, you're not getting down in their world. You're pulling them down in their world. You're pulling them down in their world. You're pulling them up into your world of righteousness and up into your world of righteousness and up into your world of righteousness and wisdom. You want your kids when they're wisdom. You want your kids when they're wisdom. You want your kids when they're around their peers, you're a leader. around their peers, you're a leader. around their peers, you're a leader. Your friends are righteous adults. You Your friends are righteous adults. You Your friends are righteous adults. You want to try to construct that world.

want to try to construct that world. want to try to construct that world. Okay, last one. Last one. Okay, last one. Last one. Okay, last one. Last one. Who I got this from Josh McFersonen. Who I got this from Josh McFersonen. Who I got this from Josh McFersonen. These little things, good little These little things, good little These little things, good little highlights. Whoever tells the best highlights. Whoever tells the best highlights. Whoever tells the best stories wins. M stories wins. M stories wins. M >> so brother this is super interesting. >> so brother this is super interesting. >> so brother this is super interesting. You go back to Joshua it's like man I You go back to Joshua it's like man I You go back to Joshua it's like man I wonder h how in the world did a wonder h how in the world did a wonder h how in the world did a generation arise who didn't know the generation arise who didn't know the generation arise who didn't know the Lord or the mighty works thereof. Lord or the mighty works thereof. Lord or the mighty works thereof. >> Well a generation failed to tell the >> Well a generation failed to tell the >> Well a generation failed to tell the stories. stories. stories. >> If you go dude this is interesting. If >> If you go dude this is interesting. If >> If you go dude this is interesting. If you go read go read um this is actually you go read go read um this is actually you go read go read um this is actually very interesting. What I'll do a lot of very interesting. What I'll do a lot of very interesting. What I'll do a lot of times when I read uh the Bible every times when I read uh the Bible every times when I read uh the Bible every year is I'll almost walk into it with a year is I'll almost walk into it with a year is I'll almost walk into it with a lens that I'm reading through. So, like lens that I'm reading through. So, like lens that I'm reading through. So, like there was one year where I was like, I'm there was one year where I was like, I'm there was one year where I was like, I'm reading the whole thing through the lens reading the whole thing through the lens reading the whole thing through the lens of being a dad. Uh there was one year of being a dad. Uh there was one year of being a dad. Uh there was one year where I was like, you know what, I just where I was like, you know what, I just where I was like, you know what, I just want to I'm going to read kind of the want to I'm going to read kind of the want to I'm going to read kind of the whole thing and think about uh how does whole thing and think about uh how does whole thing and think about uh how does this apply to governance and this apply to governance and this apply to governance and civilizations and you know, it's kind of civilizations and you know, it's kind of civilizations and you know, it's kind of okay. okay. okay. >> What what's the lens right now in this >> What what's the lens right now in this >> What what's the lens right now in this season? season? season? >> Uh it's the second one. Right now, I'm >> Uh it's the second one. Right now, I'm >> Uh it's the second one. Right now, I'm I'm right now I just I'm halfway through I'm right now I just I'm halfway through I'm right now I just I'm halfway through Exodus and I'm watching how God in his Exodus and I'm watching how God in his Exodus and I'm watching how God in his wisdom constructs a nation.

wisdom constructs a nation. wisdom constructs a nation. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> So, it's actually it may turn into a >> So, it's actually it may turn into a >> So, it's actually it may turn into a sermon series someday. We'll get there. sermon series someday. We'll get there. sermon series someday. We'll get there. So, but here here's what's interesting, So, but here here's what's interesting, So, but here here's what's interesting, Carla. Okay. The year it was like three Carla. Okay. The year it was like three Carla. Okay. The year it was like three years ago where I read the whole thing years ago where I read the whole thing years ago where I read the whole thing through the lens of like the dad lens, through the lens of like the dad lens, through the lens of like the dad lens, bro. If you go read Old Testament bro. If you go read Old Testament bro. If you go read Old Testament constantly, uh, God will do something constantly, uh, God will do something constantly, uh, God will do something awesome. And do you remember um, okay, awesome. And do you remember um, okay, awesome. And do you remember um, okay, you know that hymn uh, uh, come thou you know that hymn uh, uh, come thou you know that hymn uh, uh, come thou fountain? fountain? fountain? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And one of the lyrics is here I raise my >> And one of the lyrics is here I raise my >> And one of the lyrics is here I raise my anybody remember Ebenezer. anybody remember Ebenezer. anybody remember Ebenezer. >> Ebenezer. Okay. >> Ebenezer. Okay. >> Ebenezer. Okay. >> So, the word Ebenezer, it's an English >> So, the word Ebenezer, it's an English >> So, the word Ebenezer, it's an English transliteration of a I think it's a transliteration of a I think it's a transliteration of a I think it's a Hebrew word ebanzar. or it means stone Hebrew word ebanzar. or it means stone Hebrew word ebanzar. or it means stone of help. of help. of help. >> So every time you see in the Old >> So every time you see in the Old >> So every time you see in the Old Testament, God will do something Testament, God will do something Testament, God will do something awesome. He'll be like, "Hey guys, awesome. He'll be like, "Hey guys, awesome. He'll be like, "Hey guys, before you go anywhere, before you go anywhere, before you go anywhere, >> will you please pile up a bunch of rocks >> will you please pile up a bunch of rocks >> will you please pile up a bunch of rocks right here right here right here >> and then it the Hebrew that it says is >> and then it the Hebrew that it says is >> and then it the Hebrew that it says is these rocks, they're going to be your these rocks, they're going to be your these rocks, they're going to be your Ebenezer, your Ebenezar, your stone of Ebenezer, your Ebenezar, your stone of Ebenezer, your Ebenezar, your stone of hell." And this is literally what it hell." And this is literally what it hell." And this is literally what it says. I love talking about this. This is says. I love talking about this. This is says. I love talking about this. This is literally what it says. It says, "Hey, I literally what it says. It says, "Hey, I literally what it says. It says, "Hey, I want you to do this so that every single want you to do this so that every single want you to do this so that every single time you and your kids pass by this time you and your kids pass by this time you and your kids pass by this spot, you remember spot, you remember spot, you remember >> what God did here."

>> what God did here." >> what God did here." >> And what it's doing is it's it's >> And what it's doing is it's it's >> And what it's doing is it's it's acknowledging forgetfulness is the acknowledging forgetfulness is the acknowledging forgetfulness is the greatest enemy of faith because when we greatest enemy of faith because when we greatest enemy of faith because when we forget what God did, we stop believing forget what God did, we stop believing forget what God did, we stop believing what he'll do. Okay, so let's check this what he'll do. Okay, so let's check this what he'll do. Okay, so let's check this out. out. out. >> Say say that one more time. >> Say say that one more time. >> Say say that one more time. >> Yeah, this is really important, dude. >> Yeah, this is really important, dude. >> Yeah, this is really important, dude. Okay. Forgetfulness is the greatest Okay. Forgetfulness is the greatest Okay. Forgetfulness is the greatest enemy of faith because when we forget enemy of faith because when we forget enemy of faith because when we forget what God did, we stop believing what what God did, we stop believing what what God did, we stop believing what he'll do. So God literally constructs in he'll do. So God literally constructs in he'll do. So God literally constructs in the family systems of the nation that he the family systems of the nation that he the family systems of the nation that he establishes all of these little piles of establishes all of these little piles of establishes all of these little piles of rocks all over the country so that every rocks all over the country so that every rocks all over the country so that every time you as a dad Carlos walk past that time you as a dad Carlos walk past that time you as a dad Carlos walk past that little spot, you tell your son this Hey little spot, you tell your son this Hey little spot, you tell your son this Hey buddy, this is where Joshua walked buddy, this is where Joshua walked buddy, this is where Joshua walked around the wall seven times and they around the wall seven times and they around the wall seven times and they blew the trumpets and the Lord fought blew the trumpets and the Lord fought blew the trumpets and the Lord fought for us and we didn't have to do for us and we didn't have to do for us and we didn't have to do anything. Hey buddy, did you know that anything. Hey buddy, did you know that anything. Hey buddy, did you know that when you're in trouble, the Lord will when you're in trouble, the Lord will when you're in trouble, the Lord will fight for you too? You see what he's fight for you too? You see what he's fight for you too? You see what he's doing? So when you read Deuteronomy, doing? So when you read Deuteronomy, doing? So when you read Deuteronomy, Exodus, Lev, you know, Numbers, all Exodus, Lev, you know, Numbers, all Exodus, Lev, you know, Numbers, all these things, it's literally telling these things, it's literally telling these things, it's literally telling them over and over and over, tell all them over and over and over, tell all them over and over and over, tell all the stories to your kids. the stories to your kids. the stories to your kids. >> Wow.

>> Wow. >> Wow. >> Tell all this. Now, here's the big idea. >> Tell all this. Now, here's the big idea. >> Tell all this. Now, here's the big idea. The world is constantly telling your The world is constantly telling your The world is constantly telling your kids stories, but watch. Whoever tells kids stories, but watch. Whoever tells kids stories, but watch. Whoever tells the best stories wins. when I was the best stories wins. when I was the best stories wins. when I was growing up, dude. And I didn't realize growing up, dude. And I didn't realize growing up, dude. And I didn't realize it was making this an effect on me when it was making this an effect on me when it was making this an effect on me when I was growing up. I was growing up. I was growing up. >> Again, here's what we're doing. We're >> Again, here's what we're doing. We're >> Again, here's what we're doing. We're just talk. How do you apply Hebrews 12? just talk. How do you apply Hebrews 12? just talk. How do you apply Hebrews 12? That's all we're doing right now. I That's all we're doing right now. I That's all we're doing right now. I didn't realize this was making an effect didn't realize this was making an effect didn't realize this was making an effect on me when I was a kid. My whole on me when I was a kid. My whole on me when I was a kid. My whole childhood was sitting around the dinner childhood was sitting around the dinner childhood was sitting around the dinner table and you know just to brag on my table and you know just to brag on my table and you know just to brag on my mom and dad uh and them sitting down and mom and dad uh and them sitting down and mom and dad uh and them sitting down and them going, "Hey guys, them going, "Hey guys, them going, "Hey guys, there's this widow in our church that is there's this widow in our church that is there's this widow in our church that is in need and she just lost her job and uh in need and she just lost her job and uh in need and she just lost her job and uh we're not going to tell her that it was we're not going to tell her that it was we're not going to tell her that it was from us, but what would you guys think from us, but what would you guys think from us, but what would you guys think if we secretly gave her $1,000?" And do if we secretly gave her $1,000?" And do if we secretly gave her $1,000?" And do I just be honest? In the family I grew I just be honest? In the family I grew I just be honest? In the family I grew up in, $1,000 was a big dagum deal. a up in, $1,000 was a big dagum deal. a up in, $1,000 was a big dagum deal. a lot. Big deal. lot. Big deal. lot. Big deal. What would it be like if would you guys What would it be like if would you guys What would it be like if would you guys What if we gave her $1,000? And hey, What if we gave her $1,000? And hey, What if we gave her $1,000? And hey, just heads up, guys. If we do that, just heads up, guys. If we do that, just heads up, guys. If we do that, there might be a couple things we can't there might be a couple things we can't there might be a couple things we can't buy this month, but do you know what a buy this month, but do you know what a buy this month, but do you know what a blessing it'd be blessing it'd be blessing it'd be >> to be able to drop this check off and >> to be able to drop this check off and >> to be able to drop this check off and she'll never know it was us.

she'll never know it was us. she'll never know it was us. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Or like hearing the stories of like my >> Or like hearing the stories of like my >> Or like hearing the stories of like my mom and dad uh mom and dad uh mom and dad uh >> that happened growing up for >> that happened growing up for >> that happened growing up for >> Oh, dude. Constantly stuff like that >> Oh, dude. Constantly stuff like that >> Oh, dude. Constantly stuff like that happen. happen. happen. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> My mom and dad stuff like this. My mom >> My mom and dad stuff like this. My mom >> My mom and dad stuff like this. My mom and dad uh they got married in college. and dad uh they got married in college. and dad uh they got married in college. My dad like pretty brand new Christian My dad like pretty brand new Christian My dad like pretty brand new Christian got pretty radically saved out of you got pretty radically saved out of you got pretty radically saved out of you know some alcohol stuff and all this know some alcohol stuff and all this know some alcohol stuff and all this stuff and uh and so neither you know stuff and uh and so neither you know stuff and uh and so neither you know they don't got any money. They qualify they don't got any money. They qualify they don't got any money. They qualify they qualified for government they qualified for government they qualified for government assistance. This is the type of guy my assistance. This is the type of guy my assistance. This is the type of guy my dad was. But my dad was like I'm not dad was. But my dad was like I'm not dad was. But my dad was like I'm not taking it because I you know I need and taking it because I you know I need and taking it because I you know I need and I'm not saying there's anything wrong I'm not saying there's anything wrong I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. I'm talking I'm dignifying my with it. I'm talking I'm dignifying my with it. I'm talking I'm dignifying my dad. I'm not downgrading you if you are dad. I'm not downgrading you if you are dad. I'm not downgrading you if you are if you do receive something like that. if you do receive something like that. if you do receive something like that. My dad was like, "No, man. I'm going to My dad was like, "No, man. I'm going to My dad was like, "No, man. I'm going to be responsible for my own family." So, be responsible for my own family." So, be responsible for my own family." So, that's just the financial situation, that's just the financial situation, that's just the financial situation, right? right? right? >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> But my dad decided, you know, like, >> But my dad decided, you know, like, >> But my dad decided, you know, like, "Hey, we're a Christian family. We're "Hey, we're a Christian family. We're "Hey, we're a Christian family. We're going to tithe." And so, even though going to tithe." And so, even though going to tithe." And so, even though they couldn't afford it, they're like they couldn't afford it, they're like they couldn't afford it, they're like giving their first tenth to the Lord. giving their first tenth to the Lord. giving their first tenth to the Lord. And growing up, dude, around the dinner, And growing up, dude, around the dinner, And growing up, dude, around the dinner, we're constantly hearing stories like, we're constantly hearing stories like, we're constantly hearing stories like, "And then, hey, Josh, hey, Lee, do you "And then, hey, Josh, hey, Lee, do you "And then, hey, Josh, hey, Lee, do you know what happened?" Uh, oh, somebody g know what happened?" Uh, oh, somebody g know what happened?" Uh, oh, somebody g slid a check into our mailbox with slid a check into our mailbox with slid a check into our mailbox with exactly what we needed for rent.

exactly what we needed for rent. exactly what we needed for rent. Somebody dropped off groceries at the Somebody dropped off groceries at the Somebody dropped off groceries at the exact time. Do I've heard those stories. exact time. Do I've heard those stories. exact time. Do I've heard those stories. a hundred times, dude. Or we would hear a hundred times, dude. Or we would hear a hundred times, dude. Or we would hear stories about the dad was a pastor, that stories about the dad was a pastor, that stories about the dad was a pastor, that addict got freed and and and you know, addict got freed and and and you know, addict got freed and and and you know, and that marriage got healed and that and that marriage got healed and that and that marriage got healed and that kind of thing. And and watch this, man. kind of thing. And and watch this, man. kind of thing. And and watch this, man. Whoever told the best stories won. Whoever told the best stories won. Whoever told the best stories won. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And the word stories they were telling >> And the word stories they were telling >> And the word stories they were telling were better to me than the world stories were better to me than the world stories were better to me than the world stories I was hearing. So now listen, here's I was hearing. So now listen, here's I was hearing. So now listen, here's what I'm saying, okay? Your faith what I'm saying, okay? Your faith what I'm saying, okay? Your faith doesn't got to be perfect. It does got doesn't got to be perfect. It does got doesn't got to be perfect. It does got to be real. Don't get down in your kids' to be real. Don't get down in your kids' to be real. Don't get down in your kids' worlds. Pull them up into your world. worlds. Pull them up into your world. worlds. Pull them up into your world. Whoever tells the best stories wins. Whoever tells the best stories wins. Whoever tells the best stories wins. Okay, but listen. Listen, parents, the Okay, but listen. Listen, parents, the Okay, but listen. Listen, parents, the most significant thing you do with your most significant thing you do with your most significant thing you do with your life. It may not be some thing you life. It may not be some thing you life. It may not be some thing you accomplish. It may be some you raise. accomplish. It may be some you raise. accomplish. It may be some you raise. Run your relay race well. Pass that Run your relay race well. Pass that Run your relay race well. Pass that baton. baton. baton. >> Well, that's really good. That's >> Well, that's really good. That's >> Well, that's really good. That's amazing. That's extremely helpful. amazing. That's extremely helpful. amazing. That's extremely helpful. >> We need to talk about stuff like that >> We need to talk about stuff like that >> We need to talk about stuff like that for for for >> We probably need to do more deep dives >> We probably need to do more deep dives >> We probably need to do more deep dives on parenting. That's extremely helpful. on parenting. That's extremely helpful. on parenting. That's extremely helpful. Um, speaking on running that race Um, speaking on running that race Um, speaking on running that race faithfully, let's do let's do this faithfully, let's do let's do this faithfully, let's do let's do this before we jump into the JD Vance video.

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Now, let's get back to the conversation. Now, let's get back to the conversation. Let's do let's share one thing just to Let's do let's share one thing just to Let's do let's share one thing just to hey this if you're let's talk to the hey this if you're let's talk to the hey this if you're let's talk to the younger folks joining right now and then younger folks joining right now and then younger folks joining right now and then to the older folks that here's one thing to the older folks that here's one thing to the older folks that here's one thing to keep in mind uh this is how you go at to keep in mind uh this is how you go at to keep in mind uh this is how you go at a distance especially today because you a distance especially today because you a distance especially today because you know when it comes to running a race uh know when it comes to running a race uh know when it comes to running a race uh it seems like we see and we don't we it seems like we see and we don't we it seems like we see and we don't we might not have time to deep dive this might not have time to deep dive this might not have time to deep dive this but basically like there's a lot of but basically like there's a lot of but basically like there's a lot of people that we've seen run the race and people that we've seen run the race and people that we've seen run the race and then at some point they don't make it or then at some point they don't make it or then at some point they don't make it or they fail. they fail. they fail. >> It's fact. >> It's fact. >> It's fact. >> And so >> And so >> And so >> the number of people that finish well is >> the number of people that finish well is >> the number of people that finish well is small. It's not about starting the race, small. It's not about starting the race, small. It's not about starting the race, it's about finishing the race, right? it's about finishing the race, right? it's about finishing the race, right? And so, um, let's help people finish the And so, um, let's help people finish the And so, um, let's help people finish the race well or at least be set up so that race well or at least be set up so that race well or at least be set up so that they can go for long, uh, long obedience they can go for long, uh, long obedience they can go for long, uh, long obedience in the same direction. Um, young people, in the same direction. Um, young people, in the same direction. Um, young people, old people. I got a thing for young old people. I got a thing for young old people. I got a thing for young people, but I'm going to let you start people, but I'm going to let you start people, but I'm going to let you start with uh, maybe with where you want. with uh, maybe with where you want. with uh, maybe with where you want. >> Why don't you start? Okay. >> Why don't you start? Okay. >> Why don't you start? Okay. >> Okay. You you do younger and then >> Okay. You you do younger and then >> Okay. You you do younger and then actually wait, actually wait, actually wait, >> let me do uh, Yeah. Yeah. All right. You >> let me do uh, Yeah. Yeah. All right. You >> let me do uh, Yeah. Yeah. All right. You you do younger, I'll do older. you do younger, I'll do older. you do younger, I'll do older. >> Uh, so, first of all, I'm I'm 34. Uh, >> Uh, so, first of all, I'm I'm 34. Uh, >> Uh, so, first of all, I'm I'm 34. Uh, and 34. and 34. and 34. >> So adorable. >> So adorable. >> So adorable. >> 34 is not old. But I will say this, >> 34 is not old. But I will say this, >> 34 is not old. But I will say this, Josh. Uh, when you're 34 and you hang Josh. Uh, when you're 34 and you hang Josh. Uh, when you're 34 and you hang out with somebody that's like 21, then out with somebody that's like 21, then out with somebody that's like 21, then you don't feel young. It's like, you you don't feel young. It's like, you you don't feel young. It's like, you know, you know, you're not you're young, know, you know, you're not you're young, know, you know, you're not you're young, but then you're like, okay, that I I but then you're like, okay, that I I but then you're like, okay, that I I feel very old.

feel very old. feel very old. >> Bro, can I say something funny? >> Bro, can I say something funny? >> Bro, can I say something funny? >> Yes. I've noted. So when I first started >> Yes. I've noted. So when I first started >> Yes. I've noted. So when I first started preaching a lot of times it'd be like preaching a lot of times it'd be like preaching a lot of times it'd be like hey man you know if you're older and hey man you know if you're older and hey man you know if you're older and then I would be like if your age starts then I would be like if your age starts then I would be like if your age starts with a three or you know and it's like with a three or you know and it's like with a three or you know and it's like every year when I do that in a sermon every year when I do that in a sermon every year when I do that in a sermon hey man raise your hand if you're and hey man raise your hand if you're and hey man raise your hand if you're and what it is every year it creeps up. So what it is every year it creeps up. So what it is every year it creeps up. So like now I'm like hey man raise your like now I'm like hey man raise your like now I'm like hey man raise your hand if uh if you're under 35 hand if uh if you're under 35 hand if uh if you're under 35 >> I've heard somebody said that 30s is the >> I've heard somebody said that 30s is the >> I've heard somebody said that 30s is the freshman year of adulthood is what? So freshman year of adulthood is what? So freshman year of adulthood is what? So um I so here's what I would say here's um I so here's what I would say here's um I so here's what I would say here's what I want to share. I honestly just what I want to share. I honestly just what I want to share. I honestly just want to share for people that are want to share for people that are want to share for people that are listening that are kind of in their 30s listening that are kind of in their 30s listening that are kind of in their 30s and even younger. Um this is probably and even younger. Um this is probably and even younger. Um this is probably the most impactful thing in my life uh the most impactful thing in my life uh the most impactful thing in my life uh that I think I've experienced recently that I think I've experienced recently that I think I've experienced recently and I I just want to share it. So here's and I I just want to share it. So here's and I I just want to share it. So here's would be my advice. we live especially would be my advice. we live especially would be my advice. we live especially in in a culture that we live in today in in a culture that we live in today in in a culture that we live in today with like bro we have so many more with like bro we have so many more with like bro we have so many more opportunities than I think any other opportunities than I think any other opportunities than I think any other generation to build stuff to create uh generation to build stuff to create uh generation to build stuff to create uh something worthy to have influence to to something worthy to have influence to to something worthy to have influence to to do something that's like worth doing uh do something that's like worth doing uh do something that's like worth doing uh with digital all the things AI I'm sure with digital all the things AI I'm sure with digital all the things AI I'm sure there's going to be more honestly a lot there's going to be more honestly a lot there's going to be more honestly a lot of people this is probably a hot take a of people this is probably a hot take a of people this is probably a hot take a lot of people complain about like with lot of people complain about like with lot of people complain about like with AI this yes there's going to be some AI this yes there's going to be some AI this yes there's going to be some change but that this means there's going change but that this means there's going change but that this means there's going to be even more opportunities than ever to be even more opportunities than ever to be even more opportunities than ever >> I'm positive on it >> I'm positive on it >> I'm positive on it >> net positive on it >> net positive on it >> net positive on it >> there you go so that that would be for >> there you go so that that would be for >> there you go so that that would be for especially the younger generation now especially the younger generation now especially the younger generation now that are kind of leaving college and hey that are kind of leaving college and hey that are kind of leaving college and hey opportunities are like 10x tripled opportunities are like 10x tripled opportunities are like 10x tripled anyways um here's what I would say if anyways um here's what I would say if anyways um here's what I would say if you are a younger Christian or in your you are a younger Christian or in your you are a younger Christian or in your 30s or or below um probably the the the 30s or or below um probably the the the 30s or or below um probably the the the biggest advice that I would give you is biggest advice that I would give you is biggest advice that I would give you is find someone or a few group of people

find someone or a few group of people find someone or a few group of people that are older wiser and more godly than that are older wiser and more godly than that are older wiser and more godly than you and submit to their authority you and submit to their authority you and submit to their authority >> so uh this is probably not what people >> so uh this is probably not what people >> so uh this is probably not what people were expecting to hear u but this could were expecting to hear u but this could were expecting to hear u but this could be again a mentor or a group of or your be again a mentor or a group of or your be again a mentor or a group of or your small group, whatever, that they're small group, whatever, that they're small group, whatever, that they're older and younger and ahead of you and older and younger and ahead of you and older and younger and ahead of you and literally have a mindset of I will be literally have a mindset of I will be literally have a mindset of I will be open to submit to your authority. And open to submit to your authority. And open to submit to your authority. And here's what this does not mean. This here's what this does not mean. This here's what this does not mean. This does not mean that you're now shy. This does not mean that you're now shy. This does not mean that you're now shy. This does not mean that you have to ask does not mean that you have to ask does not mean that you have to ask permission for literally everything you permission for literally everything you permission for literally everything you do. It means that in one it literally do. It means that in one it literally do. It means that in one it literally means go build whatever you need to means go build whatever you need to means go build whatever you need to build. Run your race. Go dream big. Do build. Run your race. Go dream big. Do build. Run your race. Go dream big. Do whatever God has called you to do. And whatever God has called you to do. And whatever God has called you to do. And in one way or another still be under the in one way or another still be under the in one way or another still be under the authority of somebody else. And here's authority of somebody else. And here's authority of somebody else. And here's why. Somebody might hear that and say why. Somebody might hear that and say why. Somebody might hear that and say and say that sounds inhibiting. It's and say that sounds inhibiting. It's and say that sounds inhibiting. It's actually empowering and it protects you actually empowering and it protects you actually empowering and it protects you because submission if you think about because submission if you think about because submission if you think about that word submission it's submission. It that word submission it's submission. It that word submission it's submission. It just literally means being under the just literally means being under the just literally means being under the mission of somebody else. And the reason mission of somebody else. And the reason mission of somebody else. And the reason why this matters is it it the reason why why this matters is it it the reason why why this matters is it it the reason why this matters is because this matters is because this matters is because >> I never noticed that >> I never noticed that >> I never noticed that >> submission under the mission of somebody >> submission under the mission of somebody >> submission under the mission of somebody else. The reason why this matters is else. The reason why this matters is else. The reason why this matters is because if you're younger you are because if you're younger you are because if you're younger you are probably very gifted. You probably have probably very gifted. You probably have probably very gifted. You probably have a lot of drive, but you don't have a lot a lot of drive, but you don't have a lot a lot of drive, but you don't have a lot of wisdom.

of wisdom. of wisdom. >> And you need to be around people that >> And you need to be around people that >> And you need to be around people that love you enough that at some point if love you enough that at some point if love you enough that at some point if they see you going in a specific they see you going in a specific they see you going in a specific direction, they can call you out and direction, they can call you out and direction, they can call you out and they can be like, "Bro, that is not it. they can be like, "Bro, that is not it. they can be like, "Bro, that is not it. You need to stop. You need to change. You need to stop. You need to change. You need to stop. You need to change. You need to take that thing down." And You need to take that thing down." And You need to take that thing down." And uh the problem with people that are uh the problem with people that are uh the problem with people that are like, "Well, I don't want anybody like, "Well, I don't want anybody like, "Well, I don't want anybody telling me what to do. I don't want telling me what to do. I don't want telling me what to do. I don't want anybody stopping me. I don't want to be anybody stopping me. I don't want to be anybody stopping me. I don't want to be asking for anybody." is that if you you asking for anybody." is that if you you asking for anybody." is that if you you think you know better at some point if think you know better at some point if think you know better at some point if you keep going you're not only gonna you keep going you're not only gonna you keep going you're not only gonna hurt yourself you're also a very hurt yourself you're also a very hurt yourself you're also a very dangerous person to other people dangerous person to other people dangerous person to other people >> fact >> fact >> fact >> and uh by the way the idea of submission >> and uh by the way the idea of submission >> and uh by the way the idea of submission it's not just a Christian husband and it's not just a Christian husband and it's not just a Christian husband and wife thing and it is by the way it's a wife thing and it is by the way it's a wife thing and it is by the way it's a Christian thing right Christian thing right Christian thing right >> if you look at the Bible you literally >> if you look at the Bible you literally >> if you look at the Bible you literally see every single person that God uses see every single person that God uses see every single person that God uses mightily there are under the authority mightily there are under the authority mightily there are under the authority of somebody else Moses was under the of somebody else Moses was under the of somebody else Moses was under the authority of Jethro Joshua under the authority of Jethro Joshua under the authority of Jethro Joshua under the authority of Moses Samuel was under the authority of Moses Samuel was under the authority of Moses Samuel was under the authority of Eli Ruth under Naomi David authority of Eli Ruth under Naomi David authority of Eli Ruth under Naomi David under Saul Timothy was under Paul. under Saul Timothy was under Paul. under Saul Timothy was under Paul. Jesus, the Bible literally says that at Jesus, the Bible literally says that at Jesus, the Bible literally says that at some point in his life, he was some point in his life, he was some point in his life, he was submissive to his parents and then all submissive to his parents and then all submissive to his parents and then all throughout his ministry, you see him throughout his ministry, you see him throughout his ministry, you see him being submissive to the will of the being submissive to the will of the being submissive to the will of the father. Not my will, but your will be father. Not my will, but your will be father. Not my will, but your will be done. And so again, when you see all done. And so again, when you see all done. And so again, when you see all these people in scripture, what you find these people in scripture, what you find these people in scripture, what you find that they have in common is that the that they have in common is that the that they have in common is that the more humble and submissive they were to more humble and submissive they were to more humble and submissive they were to the authority of somebody else, the more the authority of somebody else, the more the authority of somebody else, the more blessing they found and the more God blessing they found and the more God blessing they found and the more God elevated them in influence. And so elevated them in influence. And so elevated them in influence. And so again, it protects you. It empowers you.

again, it protects you. It empowers you. again, it protects you. It empowers you. Run your race. Build your thing. Do what Run your race. Build your thing. Do what Run your race. Build your thing. Do what God has called you to do. Dream big. Do God has called you to do. Dream big. Do God has called you to do. Dream big. Do not limit what God wants to do in your not limit what God wants to do in your not limit what God wants to do in your life and still be under the authority of life and still be under the authority of life and still be under the authority of somebody else. somebody else. somebody else. >> And I'm I'm I'm going to brag on you and >> And I'm I'm I'm going to brag on you and >> And I'm I'm I'm going to brag on you and you're going to hate it. you're going to hate it. you're going to hate it. Of maybe every 34 year old I've ever Of maybe every 34 year old I've ever Of maybe every 34 year old I've ever met, Carlos Arazzo is running the best met, Carlos Arazzo is running the best met, Carlos Arazzo is running the best race. race. race. >> Like, you are a good man. You're a good >> Like, you are a good man. You're a good >> Like, you are a good man. You're a good disciple. You're a good friend. That's disciple. You're a good friend. That's disciple. You're a good friend. That's been really fun. you're a good friend. been really fun. you're a good friend. been really fun. you're a good friend. >> And man, it's like Carlos Arzo loves >> And man, it's like Carlos Arzo loves >> And man, it's like Carlos Arzo loves Jesus. He's a man of integrity. He's a Jesus. He's a man of integrity. He's a Jesus. He's a man of integrity. He's a great husband, father, all the things. great husband, father, all the things. great husband, father, all the things. So, I'm I'm gonna say something Carlos So, I'm I'm gonna say something Carlos So, I'm I'm gonna say something Carlos is not going to like me to say, but this is not going to like me to say, but this is not going to like me to say, but this is an example what he's saying. When I is an example what he's saying. When I is an example what he's saying. When I met Carlos, he if you don't know met Carlos, he if you don't know met Carlos, he if you don't know anything about Carlos, you're like, "Oh, anything about Carlos, you're like, "Oh, anything about Carlos, you're like, "Oh, Carlos, you know, people, if anybody Carlos, you know, people, if anybody Carlos, you know, people, if anybody knows who Carlos is, it's because he knows who Carlos is, it's because he knows who Carlos is, it's because he hosts live free." Okay. Now, Carlos, uh, hosts live free." Okay. Now, Carlos, uh, hosts live free." Okay. Now, Carlos, uh, my little joke that Carlos hates is he's my little joke that Carlos hates is he's my little joke that Carlos hates is he's like the Hispanic Logan Paul, except like the Hispanic Logan Paul, except like the Hispanic Logan Paul, except he's, you know, a Christian pastor. he's, you know, a Christian pastor. he's, you know, a Christian pastor. >> Shout out to Logan Paul, by the way. >> Shout out to Logan Paul, by the way. >> Shout out to Logan Paul, by the way. >> Shout out to Logan Paul. We'd love to >> Shout out to Logan Paul. We'd love to >> Shout out to Logan Paul. We'd love to have you on live free. have you on live free. have you on live free. >> We'd love to hang out. >> We'd love to hang out. >> We'd love to hang out. >> Uh, uh, Carlos, you when I met you, I >> Uh, uh, Carlos, you when I met you, I >> Uh, uh, Carlos, you when I met you, I think you had like 800,000 YouTube think you had like 800,000 YouTube think you had like 800,000 YouTube subscribers and I think uh, somewhere subscribers and I think uh, somewhere subscribers and I think uh, somewhere around six or seven billion Instagram around six or seven billion Instagram around six or seven billion Instagram followers. And uh, dude, I literally followers. And uh, dude, I literally followers. And uh, dude, I literally when I got to Lake Point, somebody told when I got to Lake Point, somebody told when I got to Lake Point, somebody told me like, "Dude, there's this guy. He's me like, "Dude, there's this guy. He's me like, "Dude, there's this guy. He's like a part-time Lake Point in Espanol like a part-time Lake Point in Espanol like a part-time Lake Point in Espanol youth guy over at our mosquite campus.

youth guy over at our mosquite campus. youth guy over at our mosquite campus. Got like 14 kids. And honestly, dude, I Got like 14 kids. And honestly, dude, I Got like 14 kids. And honestly, dude, I was like, there ain't no way. And I was like, there ain't no way. And I was like, there ain't no way. And I looked you up. I was like, this guy's looked you up. I was like, this guy's looked you up. I was like, this guy's like actually a big deal. And then you like actually a big deal. And then you like actually a big deal. And then you were just like humbly, faithfully behind were just like humbly, faithfully behind were just like humbly, faithfully behind the scenes submitting to the leadership the scenes submitting to the leadership the scenes submitting to the leadership of other people, serving where no one of other people, serving where no one of other people, serving where no one could see you, pastoring your little could see you, pastoring your little could see you, pastoring your little heart out for 15, 20 kids. And it's heart out for 15, 20 kids. And it's heart out for 15, 20 kids. And it's like, why? Because you did. like, why? Because you did. like, why? Because you did. >> To this day, I love those kids. >> To this day, I love those kids. >> To this day, I love those kids. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Why? Because you did what you just said. >> Why? Because you did what you just said. >> Why? Because you did what you just said. That's it. And and those who humble That's it. And and those who humble That's it. And and those who humble themselves, the Lord will lift up. And themselves, the Lord will lift up. And themselves, the Lord will lift up. And that's what happened. that's what happened. that's what happened. >> Appreciate it. >> Appreciate it. >> Appreciate it. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Well done. >> Yeah. Well done. >> Yeah. Well done. >> Well, uh it is a joy to be here and >> Well, uh it is a joy to be here and >> Well, uh it is a joy to be here and that's God's grace. that's God's grace. that's God's grace. >> Am I designated to talk to the older >> Am I designated to talk to the older >> Am I designated to talk to the older people and then we'll talk about J people and then we'll talk about J people and then we'll talk about J >> because you have a lot more wisdom. >> because you have a lot more wisdom. >> because you have a lot more wisdom. >> Let's do this and then we'll speedrun >> Let's do this and then we'll speedrun >> Let's do this and then we'll speedrun this thing. Talk about this thing. Talk about this thing. Talk about >> Yeah. We'll call some balls and strikes >> Yeah. We'll call some balls and strikes >> Yeah. We'll call some balls and strikes on on uh on on uh on on uh >> Trump administration. This be fun. Yeah. >> Trump administration. This be fun. Yeah. >> Trump administration. This be fun. Yeah. If if somebody's like, "Here's what I've If if somebody's like, "Here's what I've If if somebody's like, "Here's what I've seen." First of all, I am not equipped seen." First of all, I am not equipped seen." First of all, I am not equipped to speak from experience to quote to speak from experience to quote to speak from experience to quote unquote old people. You know, I'm I'm unquote old people. You know, I'm I'm unquote old people. You know, I'm I'm 43, just turned 43. Um, here's what I 43, just turned 43. Um, here's what I 43, just turned 43. Um, here's what I will say that is an undefeated will say that is an undefeated will say that is an undefeated principle. Uh, you do not rise to the principle. Uh, you do not rise to the principle. Uh, you do not rise to the level of your aspirations. You fall to level of your aspirations. You fall to level of your aspirations. You fall to the level of your habits. That that the level of your habits. That that the level of your habits. That that nobody beats that. Uh, there's a reason nobody beats that. Uh, there's a reason nobody beats that. Uh, there's a reason that the Bible calls your relationship that the Bible calls your relationship that the Bible calls your relationship with Jesus a quote unquote walk. Well, with Jesus a quote unquote walk. Well, with Jesus a quote unquote walk. Well, what is a walk? It's just putting one what is a walk? It's just putting one what is a walk? It's just putting one foot in front of the other in front of foot in front of the other in front of foot in front of the other in front of the other front the other. So here the other front the other. So here the other front the other. So here here's what I would say and it's like here's what I would say and it's like here's what I would say and it's like this ain't it's not sexy. It's not this ain't it's not sexy. It's not this ain't it's not sexy. It's not glamorous. It's reality and reality is glamorous. It's reality and reality is glamorous. It's reality and reality is undefeated. I think what I would say the

undefeated. I think what I would say the undefeated. I think what I would say the longer somebody walks the Lord longer somebody walks the Lord longer somebody walks the Lord uh it's going to sound a little weird uh it's going to sound a little weird uh it's going to sound a little weird when I start. Just stick with me. when I start. Just stick with me. when I start. Just stick with me. Understand this. There is nothing Understand this. There is nothing Understand this. There is nothing special about reading your Bible. special about reading your Bible. special about reading your Bible. There is nothing powerful about praying. There is nothing powerful about praying. There is nothing powerful about praying. There is nothing super special about There is nothing super special about There is nothing super special about worshiping. worshiping. worshiping. There is nothing incredible about There is nothing incredible about There is nothing incredible about disciplehip. Doing disciplehip, meeting disciplehip. Doing disciplehip, meeting disciplehip. Doing disciplehip, meeting with some guys. There's nothing amazing with some guys. There's nothing amazing with some guys. There's nothing amazing about fasting. about fasting. about fasting. You know what's amazing? You know what's You know what's amazing? You know what's You know what's amazing? You know what's powerful? You know what's special? Doing powerful? You know what's special? Doing powerful? You know what's special? Doing them every day. them every day. them every day. Doing it every every single day. Doing it every every single day. Doing it every every single day. >> Yeah. So, dude, like the guy who wakes >> Yeah. So, dude, like the guy who wakes >> Yeah. So, dude, like the guy who wakes up and he reads his Bible one time every up and he reads his Bible one time every up and he reads his Bible one time every 3 weeks or he's like, "Man, every now 3 weeks or he's like, "Man, every now 3 weeks or he's like, "Man, every now and then he's traveling and he's like, and then he's traveling and he's like, and then he's traveling and he's like, "You know what? I'm alone and I thought "You know what? I'm alone and I thought "You know what? I'm alone and I thought about God today. I'mma thank the Lord about God today. I'mma thank the Lord about God today. I'mma thank the Lord for this meal real quick." And he prays for this meal real quick." And he prays for this meal real quick." And he prays like once every three weeks. I'm just like once every three weeks. I'm just like once every three weeks. I'm just going to shoot you straight, man. That going to shoot you straight, man. That going to shoot you straight, man. That guy is not going to have a long guy is not going to have a long guy is not going to have a long obedience in the same direction. You obedience in the same direction. You obedience in the same direction. You know who will? The guy that wakes up know who will? The guy that wakes up know who will? The guy that wakes up every day, reads a chapter of the Bible every day, reads a chapter of the Bible every day, reads a chapter of the Bible every day, prays every day, and then he every day, prays every day, and then he every day, prays every day, and then he acts like it.

acts like it. acts like it. >> That guy's going to go that's going to >> That guy's going to go that's going to >> That guy's going to go that's going to go real good. So you do not rise to the go real good. So you do not rise to the go real good. So you do not rise to the level of your aspirations, you fall to level of your aspirations, you fall to level of your aspirations, you fall to the level of your goals. And obviously, the level of your goals. And obviously, the level of your goals. And obviously, I'll just throw this in. I'll just throw this in. I'll just throw this in. >> Obviously, there is something powerful >> Obviously, there is something powerful >> Obviously, there is something powerful about reading your Bible and praying. In about reading your Bible and praying. In about reading your Bible and praying. In fact, that's the point I'm trying to fact, that's the point I'm trying to fact, that's the point I'm trying to make is you do not rise to the level of make is you do not rise to the level of make is you do not rise to the level of your aspirations your aspirations your aspirations >> throughout the decades, you will fall to >> throughout the decades, you will fall to >> throughout the decades, you will fall to the level of your habits. That's great. the level of your habits. That's great. the level of your habits. That's great. >> There it is. >> There it is. >> There it is. >> That's great, man. Okay, on that note, >> That's great, man. Okay, on that note, >> That's great, man. Okay, on that note, uh let's talk about JD events. uh let's talk about JD events. uh let's talk about JD events. >> All right, let's do this. Here's why I >> All right, let's do this. Here's why I >> All right, let's do this. Here's why I want to do this, man. this um this is want to do this, man. this um this is want to do this, man. this um this is actually so here's my quick caveat. Let actually so here's my quick caveat. Let actually so here's my quick caveat. Let me set up why I'm doing this. me set up why I'm doing this. me set up why I'm doing this. We say same this is let me just disciple We say same this is let me just disciple We say same this is let me just disciple us when we're talking about um politics us when we're talking about um politics us when we're talking about um politics and culture. So here's the thing. Uh and culture. So here's the thing. Uh and culture. So here's the thing. Uh you've got to decide uh every every you've got to decide uh every every you've got to decide uh every every Christian has to decide are you um a Christian has to decide are you um a Christian has to decide are you um a conservative Christian or a Christian conservative Christian or a Christian conservative Christian or a Christian conservative. That those are really your conservative. That those are really your conservative. That those are really your two choices. It is simp listen man. I'm two choices. It is simp listen man. I'm two choices. It is simp listen man. I'm just shoot straight and people some just shoot straight and people some just shoot straight and people some people hate it. I get in trouble with people hate it. I get in trouble with people hate it. I get in trouble with this right now. There is simply no other this right now. There is simply no other this right now. There is simply no other way given the publicly stated policy way given the publicly stated policy way given the publicly stated policy proposals of the two parties. Uh you proposals of the two parties. Uh you proposals of the two parties. Uh you know neither of them are perfect. But know neither of them are perfect. But know neither of them are perfect. But when you translate a Christian theory of when you translate a Christian theory of when you translate a Christian theory of governance and morality into policy it's governance and morality into policy it's governance and morality into policy it's simply if you just let's just be honest simply if you just let's just be honest simply if you just let's just be honest man it is simply true that that is going man it is simply true that that is going man it is simply true that that is going to look and code conservative in our to look and code conservative in our to look and code conservative in our culture more than it's going to code culture more than it's going to code culture more than it's going to code liberal progressive. It just is. I'll liberal progressive. It just is. I'll liberal progressive. It just is. I'll talk about that here in a second. People talk about that here in a second. People talk about that here in a second. People hate that. I get crushed all. It's just hate that. I get crushed all. It's just hate that. I get crushed all. It's just reality. It's just straight. But but reality. It's just straight. But but reality. It's just straight. But but then you got to decide, hey man, um am I then you got to decide, hey man, um am I then you got to decide, hey man, um am I does my Christian come first or does my

does my Christian come first or does my does my Christian come first or does my conservative come first? Is if your conservative come first? Is if your conservative come first? Is if your conservative's here and your Christian's conservative's here and your Christian's conservative's here and your Christian's here, then when uh when whatever seems here, then when uh when whatever seems here, then when uh when whatever seems conservative contradicts what's conservative contradicts what's conservative contradicts what's Christian, the conservative will win and Christian, the conservative will win and Christian, the conservative will win and it'll trump the Christian. Okay, bad. it'll trump the Christian. Okay, bad. it'll trump the Christian. Okay, bad. Nope. We're out on that. Nope. We're out on that. Nope. We're out on that. >> What we want to be is Christian >> What we want to be is Christian >> What we want to be is Christian conservative. That's how it kind of conservative. That's how it kind of conservative. That's how it kind of maps. So man, my Christian is over the maps. So man, my Christian is over the maps. So man, my Christian is over the the conservative thing. So anytime the the conservative thing. So anytime the the conservative thing. So anytime the two are in disagreement, I'm Christian two are in disagreement, I'm Christian two are in disagreement, I'm Christian first, conservative second. That's so first, conservative second. That's so first, conservative second. That's so that's how that works. that's how that works. that's how that works. >> That's helpful. >> That's helpful. >> That's helpful. >> So what happens is then Christians like, >> So what happens is then Christians like, >> So what happens is then Christians like, "Okay, well dude, you know, maybe this "Okay, well dude, you know, maybe this "Okay, well dude, you know, maybe this is a politician that I voted for I is a politician that I voted for I is a politician that I voted for I supported." And they're doing and you'll supported." And they're doing and you'll supported." And they're doing and you'll hear stuff like this that oh my gosh, hear stuff like this that oh my gosh, hear stuff like this that oh my gosh, um, how could any Christian support that um, how could any Christian support that um, how could any Christian support that and that sort of thing. And what you're and that sort of thing. And what you're and that sort of thing. And what you're getting ready to hear, the reason why I getting ready to hear, the reason why I getting ready to hear, the reason why I want to do this is this is these are want to do this is this is these are want to do this is this is these are very frequent, very common sort of very frequent, very common sort of very frequent, very common sort of things that get lobbed um at uh things that get lobbed um at uh things that get lobbed um at uh Christians that are conservative um Christians that are conservative um Christians that are conservative um especially right now. And what what especially right now. And what what especially right now. And what what you're seeing here, Ross Douet, I've you're seeing here, Ross Douet, I've you're seeing here, Ross Douet, I've been reading for years.

been reading for years. been reading for years. >> Again, New York Times Catholic Christian >> Again, New York Times Catholic Christian >> Again, New York Times Catholic Christian kind of generally conservative sort of kind of generally conservative sort of kind of generally conservative sort of like uh center right I might say is how like uh center right I might say is how like uh center right I might say is how you might say it. What he did that was you might say it. What he did that was you might say it. What he did that was interesting in this interview with Vance interesting in this interview with Vance interesting in this interview with Vance is uh he said, "Hey man, there's three is uh he said, "Hey man, there's three is uh he said, "Hey man, there's three things that so you're saying you're things that so you're saying you're things that so you're saying you're trying to govern in a in a explicit trying to govern in a in a explicit trying to govern in a in a explicit Christian way. There's three things that Christian way. There's three things that Christian way. There's three things that you Hey, you're not. And some of this you Hey, you're not. And some of this you Hey, you're not. And some of this stuff is is a I'm going to just tell you stuff is is a I'm going to just tell you stuff is is a I'm going to just tell you right now, some of the things he right now, some of the things he right now, some of the things he acknowledges, as I'll point out, are acknowledges, as I'll point out, are acknowledges, as I'll point out, are true. Some of them are not and are true. Some of them are not and are true. Some of them are not and are extremely deceptive things that get extremely deceptive things that get extremely deceptive things that get thrown at you. So, we're gonna call some thrown at you. So, we're gonna call some thrown at you. So, we're gonna call some balls and strikes. Now, um by you by uh balls and strikes. Now, um by you by uh balls and strikes. Now, um by you by uh by listener request, by listener request, by listener request, >> we're gonna play the whole clip >> we're gonna play the whole clip >> we're gonna play the whole clip >> because people are play the whole dang >> because people are play the whole dang >> because people are play the whole dang clip and then respond to it so we know clip and then respond to it so we know clip and then respond to it so we know what you're talking about. So, here's what you're talking about. So, here's what you're talking about. So, here's what we're going to do, Trinity. We're what we're going to do, Trinity. We're what we're going to do, Trinity. We're going to play most of the clip all the going to play most of the clip all the going to play most of the clip all the way through so people know what I'm way through so people know what I'm way through so people know what I'm getting ready to respond to. Then, we're getting ready to respond to. Then, we're getting ready to respond to. Then, we're going to go back and then I'm gonna have going to go back and then I'm gonna have going to go back and then I'm gonna have you pause a few. Does that make sense? you pause a few. Does that make sense? you pause a few. Does that make sense? All right. So, this is Ross South All right. So, this is Ross South All right. So, this is Ross South interviewing uh JD Vance uh right after interviewing uh JD Vance uh right after interviewing uh JD Vance uh right after the release of his book, Communion. This the release of his book, Communion. This the release of his book, Communion. This about his Catholic faith and all that about his Catholic faith and all that about his Catholic faith and all that stuff. For real, stuff. For real, stuff. For real, >> we could have a longer argument about >> we could have a longer argument about >> we could have a longer argument about the economics, but I just want to the economics, but I just want to the economics, but I just want to >> let's let's stipulate that >> let's let's stipulate that >> let's let's stipulate that >> the Trump administration has in some way >> the Trump administration has in some way >> the Trump administration has in some way a kind of vision of rebuilding the a kind of vision of rebuilding the a kind of vision of rebuilding the working class that's connected to working class that's connected to working class that's connected to Christianity.

Christianity. Christianity. >> Was that hard to say? Was that hard to >> Was that hard to say? Was that hard to >> Was that hard to say? Was that hard to say wrong? say wrong? say wrong? >> I'm stipulating for the sake for the >> I'm stipulating for the sake for the >> I'm stipulating for the sake for the sake of argument come across you have sake of argument come across you have sake of argument come across you have not given us three hours to have this not given us three hours to have this not given us three hours to have this discussion. We're stipulating it. It discussion. We're stipulating it. It discussion. We're stipulating it. It also seems to me also seems to me also seems to me like the administration has distanced like the administration has distanced like the administration has distanced itself in different ways from some other itself in different ways from some other itself in different ways from some other sort of obvious expressions of Christian sort of obvious expressions of Christian sort of obvious expressions of Christian influence on politics. Some of them more influence on politics. Some of them more influence on politics. Some of them more sort of liberal coded, some of them more sort of liberal coded, some of them more sort of liberal coded, some of them more conservative coded, right? Like the conservative coded, right? Like the conservative coded, right? Like the administration has been more hostile administration has been more hostile administration has been more hostile than any prior Republican administration than any prior Republican administration than any prior Republican administration to say nothing of Democrats in the last to say nothing of Democrats in the last to say nothing of Democrats in the last 20 years to the way we do humanitarian 20 years to the way we do humanitarian 20 years to the way we do humanitarian aid. It has kept religious aid. It has kept religious aid. It has kept religious conservatives, pro-life organizations conservatives, pro-life organizations conservatives, pro-life organizations especially at arms length in a way that especially at arms length in a way that especially at arms length in a way that has led to a lot of criticism. And then, has led to a lot of criticism. And then, has led to a lot of criticism. And then, you know, let's let's be honest, the you know, let's let's be honest, the you know, let's let's be honest, the tone of the administration tone of the administration tone of the administration >> mean tweets >> mean tweets >> mean tweets >> is not consistently a Christian tone.

>> is not consistently a Christian tone. >> is not consistently a Christian tone. There is a tone of aggressive uncharity There is a tone of aggressive uncharity There is a tone of aggressive uncharity to people who aren't on board with the to people who aren't on board with the to people who aren't on board with the administration's policies. So, I would I administration's policies. So, I would I administration's policies. So, I would I would describe those as three areas would describe those as three areas would describe those as three areas where the administration has felt where the administration has felt where the administration has felt functionally post-Christian to me. functionally post-Christian to me. functionally post-Christian to me. >> And I'm curious what you bookmark that. >> And I'm curious what you bookmark that. >> And I'm curious what you bookmark that. All right. Now, pause. Okay. So, we did All right. Now, pause. Okay. So, we did All right. Now, pause. Okay. So, we did it. We're going to try this. Tell us in it. We're going to try this. Tell us in it. We're going to try this. Tell us in the comments if you like me playing the the comments if you like me playing the the comments if you like me playing the whole clip through and then going back whole clip through and then going back whole clip through and then going back and responding or if you like me to and responding or if you like me to and responding or if you like me to respond as it comes and then we'll we'll respond as it comes and then we'll we'll respond as it comes and then we'll we'll use that as a future for use that as a future for use that as a future for >> I have a theory of who likes what. I >> I have a theory of who likes what. I >> I have a theory of who likes what. I feel like people that are on YouTube and feel like people that are on YouTube and feel like people that are on YouTube and are watching it like the pause pause and are watching it like the pause pause and are watching it like the pause pause and comment comment. People that are comment comment. People that are comment comment. People that are listening only they prefer to listen to listening only they prefer to listen to listening only they prefer to listen to the whole thing. I could be wrong, but I the whole thing. I could be wrong, but I the whole thing. I could be wrong, but I think that's my theory. think that's my theory. think that's my theory. >> All right. Well, comment and then we'll >> All right. Well, comment and then we'll >> All right. Well, comment and then we'll figure out. All right. So now Trinity, figure out. All right. So now Trinity, figure out. All right. So now Trinity, go back to the beginning and then so so go back to the beginning and then so so go back to the beginning and then so so I'm going to just pause throughout the I'm going to just pause throughout the I'm going to just pause throughout the thing and then we're going to do the thing and then we're going to do the thing and then we're going to do the thing and you tell us in the comments. thing and you tell us in the comments. thing and you tell us in the comments. Uh play it through or do the pause Uh play it through or do the pause Uh play it through or do the pause thing. thing. thing. >> Yeah. And if you're listening on up, you >> Yeah. And if you're listening on up, you >> Yeah. And if you're listening on up, you can jump to the comments cuz you're not can jump to the comments cuz you're not can jump to the comments cuz you're not even in the comments. even in the comments. even in the comments. >> Jump the comments. Tell us on YouTube. >> Jump the comments. Tell us on YouTube. >> Jump the comments. Tell us on YouTube. All right. So here we go. All right. Do All right. So here we go. All right. Do All right. So here we go. All right. Do it, Triny. it, Triny. it, Triny. >> We could have a longer argument about >> We could have a longer argument about >> We could have a longer argument about the economics, but I just want to the economics, but I just want to the economics, but I just want to >> feels redundant. Let's stipulate. feels >> feels redundant. Let's stipulate. feels >> feels redundant. Let's stipulate. feels redundant redundant redundant >> that the Trump administration has in >> that the Trump administration has in >> that the Trump administration has in some way some way some way >> I don't like this >> I don't like this >> I don't like this >> a kind of vision of >> a kind of vision of >> a kind of vision of >> rebuilding the working class that's >> rebuilding the working class that's >> rebuilding the working class that's connected to Christianity.

connected to Christianity. connected to Christianity. >> Was that hard to say? Was that hard to >> Was that hard to say? Was that hard to >> Was that hard to say? Was that hard to say, Ross? say, Ross? say, Ross? >> I'm stipul that that you have not given us 3 hours that that you have not given us 3 hours to have this discussion. We're to have this discussion. We're to have this discussion. We're stipulating it. It also seems to me stipulating it. It also seems to me stipulating it. It also seems to me like the administration has distanced like the administration has distanced like the administration has distanced itself in different ways from some other itself in different ways from some other itself in different ways from some other sort of obvious expressions of Christian sort of obvious expressions of Christian sort of obvious expressions of Christian influence obvious influence obvious influence obvious sort of liberal coded some of them more sort of liberal coded some of them more sort of liberal coded some of them more conservative coded as obvious as Ross conservative coded as obvious as Ross conservative coded as obvious as Ross thinks at least the administration has thinks at least the administration has thinks at least the administration has been more hostile than any prior been more hostile than any prior been more hostile than any prior Republican administration to say nothing Republican administration to say nothing Republican administration to say nothing of Democrats in the last 20 years to the of Democrats in the last 20 years to the of Democrats in the last 20 years to the way we do humanitarian aid. pause. Okay, way we do humanitarian aid. pause. Okay, way we do humanitarian aid. pause. Okay, so this is he says this is obvious. So so this is he says this is obvious. So so this is he says this is obvious. So what here's what he's referring to. In what here's what he's referring to. In what here's what he's referring to. In 2025, obviously Elon Musk and Doge uh 2025, obviously Elon Musk and Doge uh 2025, obviously Elon Musk and Doge uh took a famously took a chainsaw to what took a famously took a chainsaw to what took a famously took a chainsaw to what is referred to as USID. is referred to as USID. is referred to as USID. So by the way, let me just begin with a So by the way, let me just begin with a So by the way, let me just begin with a public mis misperception. Um according public mis misperception. Um according public mis misperception. Um according to we did some deep dive research on to we did some deep dive research on to we did some deep dive research on this on this stuff is really helpful.

this on this stuff is really helpful. this on this stuff is really helpful. public perception. People were assuming public perception. People were assuming public perception. People were assuming that somewhere around 24 to 26% of the that somewhere around 24 to 26% of the that somewhere around 24 to 26% of the United States budget was going to things United States budget was going to things United States budget was going to things like humanitarian aid and they just like humanitarian aid and they just like humanitarian aid and they just chopped all this. In reality, it's one chopped all this. In reality, it's one chopped all this. In reality, it's one point. It's been 1.2%. Okay, if I'm point. It's been 1.2%. Okay, if I'm point. It's been 1.2%. Okay, if I'm understanding this correctly, 1.2%. Now, understanding this correctly, 1.2%. Now, understanding this correctly, 1.2%. Now, USAD, bro, this let me just say this is USAD, bro, this let me just say this is USAD, bro, this let me just say this is going to blow some of your minds. Carlos going to blow some of your minds. Carlos going to blow some of your minds. Carlos knows a little bit of where I'm going knows a little bit of where I'm going knows a little bit of where I'm going and it affects some of the region that and it affects some of the region that and it affects some of the region that you come from. Okay, so this is really you come from. Okay, so this is really you come from. Okay, so this is really this will also care about this will also care about this will also care about >> and just to care about >> and just to care about >> and just to care about >> this honestly when I started to >> this honestly when I started to >> this honestly when I started to understand how this worked, bro. It understand how this worked, bro. It understand how this worked, bro. It honestly was a little enraging. Okay, so honestly was a little enraging. Okay, so honestly was a little enraging. Okay, so what it's talking about is a thing what it's talking about is a thing what it's talking about is a thing called US ID, US aid called US ID, US aid called US ID, US aid >> that was uh foreign aid purportedly this >> that was uh foreign aid purportedly this >> that was uh foreign aid purportedly this is how it was packaged is this is like is how it was packaged is this is like is how it was packaged is this is like mercy and humanitarian aid to other mercy and humanitarian aid to other mercy and humanitarian aid to other nations. Now, let me begin right here nations. Now, let me begin right here nations. Now, let me begin right here with a with a little axiom because with a with a little axiom because with a with a little axiom because sometimes this is like a difference sometimes this is like a difference sometimes this is like a difference between conservatives and progressives between conservatives and progressives between conservatives and progressives is progressives will judge policies by is progressives will judge policies by is progressives will judge policies by their intentions and conservatives will their intentions and conservatives will their intentions and conservatives will tend to judge policies by their tend to judge policies by their tend to judge policies by their outcomes. That's actually really outcomes. That's actually really outcomes. That's actually really important. Okay, interesting.

important. Okay, interesting. important. Okay, interesting. >> We should not judge policies by their >> We should not judge policies by their >> We should not judge policies by their intentions. Well, we were trying to help intentions. Well, we were trying to help intentions. Well, we were trying to help the poor. the poor. the poor. >> Interesting. >> Interesting. >> Interesting. >> You don't judge Well, if you were trying >> You don't judge Well, if you were trying >> You don't judge Well, if you were trying to help the poor or that was your heart, to help the poor or that was your heart, to help the poor or that was your heart, but you actually just created more but you actually just created more but you actually just created more poverty, that's actually not good. that poverty, that's actually not good. that poverty, that's actually not good. that it doesn't matter what your intention it doesn't matter what your intention it doesn't matter what your intention was. So, we don't judge policies by was. So, we don't judge policies by was. So, we don't judge policies by intentions, we judge them by outcomes. intentions, we judge them by outcomes. intentions, we judge them by outcomes. Okay, I'll just cut to the chase. The Okay, I'll just cut to the chase. The Okay, I'll just cut to the chase. The actual outcome of a significant part of actual outcome of a significant part of actual outcome of a significant part of USAD was just a tax pundit taxpayer USAD was just a tax pundit taxpayer USAD was just a tax pundit taxpayer funded way to export radical progressive funded way to export radical progressive funded way to export radical progressive ideology and left-wing politics to the ideology and left-wing politics to the ideology and left-wing politics to the nations. Okay, now bro, dude, this is nations. Okay, now bro, dude, this is nations. Okay, now bro, dude, this is this was like a scales fall off your It this was like a scales fall off your It this was like a scales fall off your It was a little radicalizing to start was a little radicalizing to start was a little radicalizing to start realizing what was actually happening realizing what was actually happening realizing what was actually happening here. And I'm going to give you like here. And I'm going to give you like here. And I'm going to give you like actual data. This is not conspiracy actual data. This is not conspiracy actual data. This is not conspiracy stuff. This is like I'm going to read stuff. This is like I'm going to read stuff. This is like I'm going to read you actual government documents, actual you actual government documents, actual you actual government documents, actual data. Okay. data. Okay. data. Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> So, here's how it started. It started >> So, here's how it started. It started >> So, here's how it started. It started with a story. I won't say you know the with a story. I won't say you know the with a story. I won't say you know the guy's name. I'm not going to say his guy's name. I'm not going to say his guy's name. I'm not going to say his name. Was it Peru? name. Was it Peru? name. Was it Peru? >> Peru. Peru. Okay. That's right. So, we >> Peru. Peru. Okay. That's right. So, we >> Peru. Peru. Okay. That's right. So, we had a a well-known pastor from Peru who had a a well-known pastor from Peru who had a a well-known pastor from Peru who came and preached at Lake Point Espanol.

came and preached at Lake Point Espanol. came and preached at Lake Point Espanol. >> I'm sure he listens, by the way, so >> I'm sure he listens, by the way, so >> I'm sure he listens, by the way, so shout out. shout out. shout out. >> Shout out, dude. We love you. Come >> Shout out, dude. We love you. Come >> Shout out, dude. We love you. Come again. Come again. Uh who came and dude, again. Come again. Uh who came and dude, again. Come again. Uh who came and dude, we're sit, bro. This this blow this blew we're sit, bro. This this blow this blew we're sit, bro. This this blow this blew my mind. We're sitting around dinner and my mind. We're sitting around dinner and my mind. We're sitting around dinner and I start asking him about how they're I start asking him about how they're I start asking him about how they're thinking about the election down there. thinking about the election down there. thinking about the election down there. Dude, he starts telling me that, man, Dude, he starts telling me that, man, Dude, he starts telling me that, man, honestly, it's like, man, honestly, honestly, it's like, man, honestly, honestly, it's like, man, honestly, we're really passionate about the we're really passionate about the we're really passionate about the election in America going a certain way. election in America going a certain way. election in America going a certain way. And I I won't make this feel awkward for And I I won't make this feel awkward for And I I won't make this feel awkward for him, so I won't even say which way. You him, so I won't even say which way. You him, so I won't even say which way. You can probably figure it out. And he said, can probably figure it out. And he said, can probably figure it out. And he said, uh, he said, "Dude, here's why." And he uh, he said, "Dude, here's why." And he uh, he said, "Dude, here's why." And he starts explaining that in the public starts explaining that in the public starts explaining that in the public schools in Peru in the last few years schools in Peru in the last few years schools in Peru in the last few years they had started teaching in the public they had started teaching in the public they had started teaching in the public schools like LGBTQ queer theory and schools like LGBTQ queer theory and schools like LGBTQ queer theory and doing all the things and guidance doing all the things and guidance doing all the things and guidance counselors and all the classes and bro counselors and all the classes and bro counselors and all the classes and bro he start he and then he starts going um he start he and then he starts going um he start he and then he starts going um hey man and here's the deal families in hey man and here's the deal families in hey man and here's the deal families in Peru very traditional like nobody's into Peru very traditional like nobody's into Peru very traditional like nobody's into that stuff down there and then he asked that stuff down there and then he asked that stuff down there and then he asked me he's like he honestly it it was very me he's like he honestly it it was very me he's like he honestly it it was very uh like I love my country a lot. This uh like I love my country a lot. This uh like I love my country a lot. This was like hard to swallow. He goes, "Do was like hard to swallow. He goes, "Do was like hard to swallow. He goes, "Do you know why?" I'm like, "What are you you know why?" I'm like, "What are you you know why?" I'm like, "What are you talking about? Why?" And he, this is talking about? Why?" And he, this is talking about? Why?" And he, this is before any of this USA ID stuff before any of this USA ID stuff before any of this USA ID stuff happened. He said, "Well, here's why.

happened. He said, "Well, here's why. happened. He said, "Well, here's why. It's the first time I ever heard about It's the first time I ever heard about It's the first time I ever heard about USA ID." He goes, "Well, here's why. Uh USA ID." He goes, "Well, here's why. Uh USA ID." He goes, "Well, here's why. Uh because your government uh gives our because your government uh gives our because your government uh gives our nation a significant amount of USA ID nation a significant amount of USA ID nation a significant amount of USA ID that we quote unquote need or some that we quote unquote need or some that we quote unquote need or some people feel like we need." And he said, people feel like we need." And he said, people feel like we need." And he said, "And the United States government has "And the United States government has "And the United States government has made our reception of USA ID money made our reception of USA ID money made our reception of USA ID money contingent upon us uh aligning with some contingent upon us uh aligning with some contingent upon us uh aligning with some of the policy proposals of the previous of the policy proposals of the previous of the policy proposals of the previous administrative, Biden administration. administrative, Biden administration. administrative, Biden administration. And part of that was to advance LGBTQ And part of that was to advance LGBTQ And part of that was to advance LGBTQ representation and ideology." So, bro, representation and ideology." So, bro, representation and ideology." So, bro, literally down in Peru, they're forcing literally down in Peru, they're forcing literally down in Peru, they're forcing this stuff into government schools. in this stuff into government schools. in this stuff into government schools. in this story he's telling me uh because this story he's telling me uh because this story he's telling me uh because they're like, "Well, we're going to stop they're like, "Well, we're going to stop they're like, "Well, we're going to stop getting the money unless we teach this getting the money unless we teach this getting the money unless we teach this stuff even though none of the families stuff even though none of the families stuff even though none of the families want it." And dude, I'll be honest. I'm want it." And dude, I'll be honest. I'm want it." And dude, I'll be honest. I'm sitting there at dinner at Standard sitting there at dinner at Standard sitting there at dinner at Standard Service, like one of my favorite spots. Service, like one of my favorite spots. Service, like one of my favorite spots. I'm sitting there at dinner at Standard I'm sitting there at dinner at Standard I'm sitting there at dinner at Standard Service and you know that little meme, Service and you know that little meme, Service and you know that little meme, there's a little meme that's like, "Are there's a little meme that's like, "Are there's a little meme that's like, "Are we the baddies?" It's like, honestly, we the baddies?" It's like, honestly, we the baddies?" It's like, honestly, dude, it was one of the first times in dude, it was one of the first times in dude, it was one of the first times in my life I was like, "Wait a are we the my life I was like, "Wait a are we the my life I was like, "Wait a are we the bad guys now?"

bad guys now?" bad guys now?" Okay, now let me let me go a hair Okay, now let me let me go a hair Okay, now let me let me go a hair deeper. Okay, so you I'm going to read deeper. Okay, so you I'm going to read deeper. Okay, so you I'm going to read something to you. Uh let me find this something to you. Uh let me find this something to you. Uh let me find this real quick. Uh yeah. Okay, so here's an example. So yeah. Okay, so here's an example. So millions of dollars I'm I'm literally millions of dollars I'm I'm literally millions of dollars I'm I'm literally reading this. This is from this is read reading this. This is from this is read reading this. This is from this is read verbatim from the our government's own verbatim from the our government's own verbatim from the our government's own award record that they put on verbatim. award record that they put on verbatim. award record that they put on verbatim. Millions of dollars, for instance, were Millions of dollars, for instance, were Millions of dollars, for instance, were given to Guatemala via USA ID to grant. given to Guatemala via USA ID to grant. given to Guatemala via USA ID to grant. How do I say that? Say that for me. How do I say that? Say that for me. How do I say that? Say that for me. >> Association Lambda. >> Association Lambda. >> Association Lambda. >> Ah, marvelous. Okay, that sounds great. >> Ah, marvelous. Okay, that sounds great. >> Ah, marvelous. Okay, that sounds great. >> I gave you the American accent, too. >> I gave you the American accent, too. >> I gave you the American accent, too. Associ lambda. Associ lambda. Associ lambda. >> That's how I was going to say. >> That's how I was going to say. >> That's how I was going to say. Association lambda. Okay, that so Association lambda. Okay, that so Association lambda. Okay, that so millions of dollars USA ID money given millions of dollars USA ID money given millions of dollars USA ID money given to Guatemala. See, I'm going to read to Guatemala. See, I'm going to read to Guatemala. See, I'm going to read what our government said about this to what our government said about this to what our government said about this to quote, "Strengthen transled quote, "Strengthen transled quote, "Strengthen transled organizations to deliver gender organizations to deliver gender organizations to deliver gender affirming health care and provide affirming health care and provide affirming health care and provide economic empowerment opportunities from economic empowerment opportunities from economic empowerment opportunities from those people for those people." So, bro, those people for those people." So, bro, those people for those people." So, bro, what was literally happening is that what was literally happening is that what was literally happening is that they were uh incentivizing nations to they were uh incentivizing nations to they were uh incentivizing nations to teach overtly wicked and evil things.

teach overtly wicked and evil things. teach overtly wicked and evil things. And the little carrot was uh you're And the little carrot was uh you're And the little carrot was uh you're going to get our USA ID money. So, going to get our USA ID money. So, going to get our USA ID money. So, Carla, you tell me. Is that humanitarian Carla, you tell me. Is that humanitarian Carla, you tell me. Is that humanitarian aid? aid? aid? >> Nope. >> Nope. >> Nope. >> Nope. >> Nope. >> Nope. >> Nope. But you can take something evil >> Nope. But you can take something evil >> Nope. But you can take something evil and call it humanitarian aid and then and call it humanitarian aid and then and call it humanitarian aid and then anybody that opposes it, they look like anybody that opposes it, they look like anybody that opposes it, they look like the baddie. the baddie. the baddie. >> That's the play that's going to run. >> That's the play that's going to run. >> That's the play that's going to run. Now, bro, this is So, again, we we're Now, bro, this is So, again, we we're Now, bro, this is So, again, we we're doing deep dive research on this stuff. doing deep dive research on this stuff. doing deep dive research on this stuff. This is going to stink and blow your This is going to stink and blow your This is going to stink and blow your mind and then I'm gonna go to this the mind and then I'm gonna go to this the mind and then I'm gonna go to this the next thing. So what people have figured next thing. So what people have figured next thing. So what people have figured out in the last like six months is out in the last like six months is out in the last like six months is before USID money got pulled back before USID money got pulled back before USID money got pulled back uh in general left-wing politicians, uh in general left-wing politicians, uh in general left-wing politicians, progressive politicians who aligned with progressive politicians who aligned with progressive politicians who aligned with all this these stuff I just read had all this these stuff I just read had all this these stuff I just read had been winning the elections in South been winning the elections in South been winning the elections in South America, Latin America. Okay, dude. America, Latin America. Okay, dude. America, Latin America. Okay, dude. Here's what people are noticing is that Here's what people are noticing is that Here's what people are noticing is that once USA ID money got pulled, now for once USA ID money got pulled, now for once USA ID money got pulled, now for the first time in ages, conservative the first time in ages, conservative the first time in ages, conservative candidates have won elections in the candidates have won elections in the candidates have won elections in the following countries in Latin America: following countries in Latin America: following countries in Latin America: Chile, Bolivia, Peru, Ecuador, Honduras, Chile, Bolivia, Peru, Ecuador, Honduras, Chile, Bolivia, Peru, Ecuador, Honduras, Colombia, Costa Rica Colombia, Costa Rica Colombia, Costa Rica for the first time now. Okay, so dude, for the first time now. Okay, so dude, for the first time now. Okay, so dude, and it's new. This is new. Okay. So, we and it's new. This is new. Okay. So, we and it's new. This is new. Okay. So, we looked all this up before the podcast in looked all this up before the podcast in looked all this up before the podcast in Is it Chile or Chile?

Is it Chile or Chile? Is it Chile or Chile? >> Uh, both. Chile if you're here and Chile >> Uh, both. Chile if you're here and Chile >> Uh, both. Chile if you're here and Chile if you're Latin America. if you're Latin America. if you're Latin America. >> Well, in Kentucky, we just said Chile. >> Well, in Kentucky, we just said Chile. >> Well, in Kentucky, we just said Chile. >> There you go. >> There you go. >> There you go. >> Okay. All right. >> Okay. All right. >> Okay. All right. >> You're good. You're good though. You're >> You're good. You're good though. You're >> You're good. You're good though. You're good. good. good. >> All right. All right. So, for the last >> All right. All right. So, for the last >> All right. All right. So, for the last five elections in Chile, Chile. Okay. five elections in Chile, Chile. Okay. five elections in Chile, Chile. Okay. >> Uh, the the political alignment of the >> Uh, the the political alignment of the >> Uh, the the political alignment of the person that won left center left. person that won left center left. person that won left center left. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Socialist party of Chile and a >> Socialist party of Chile and a >> Socialist party of Chile and a socialist. So there's one of them that socialist. So there's one of them that socialist. So there's one of them that won twice. That's the last five. USA ID won twice. That's the last five. USA ID won twice. That's the last five. USA ID money removed. All of a sudden, for the money removed. All of a sudden, for the money removed. All of a sudden, for the first time, conservative candidate wins. first time, conservative candidate wins. first time, conservative candidate wins. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> In Bolivia, >> In Bolivia, >> In Bolivia, >> the previous 20 years, >> the previous 20 years, >> the previous 20 years, a candidate had won under a socialist an a candidate had won under a socialist an a candidate had won under a socialist an overtly socialist movement. USAD money overtly socialist movement. USAD money overtly socialist movement. USAD money pulled in 2025. For the first time in 25 pulled in 2025. For the first time in 25 pulled in 2025. For the first time in 25 in 20 years, a conservative paz, I don't in 20 years, a conservative paz, I don't in 20 years, a conservative paz, I don't know how to pronounce know how to pronounce know how to pronounce >> wins. Okay. Peru, the free Peru party >> wins. Okay. Peru, the free Peru party >> wins. Okay. Peru, the free Peru party that is an overtly Marxist socialist that is an overtly Marxist socialist that is an overtly Marxist socialist party had won three out of the last five party had won three out of the last five party had won three out of the last five elections. USA ID money pulled all of a elections. USA ID money pulled all of a elections. USA ID money pulled all of a sudden conservative candidate wins. Now sudden conservative candidate wins. Now sudden conservative candidate wins. Now Carlos, let me ask you this question.

Carlos, let me ask you this question. Carlos, let me ask you this question. Dude, this this will blow your mind. Now Dude, this this will blow your mind. Now Dude, this this will blow your mind. Now remember what Douet is saying is, "Hey remember what Douet is saying is, "Hey remember what Douet is saying is, "Hey man, a Christian would really want this man, a Christian would really want this man, a Christian would really want this humanitarian aid to go out and it's humanitarian aid to go out and it's humanitarian aid to go out and it's actually non-Christian for you to oppose actually non-Christian for you to oppose actually non-Christian for you to oppose this humanitarian." What I'm showing you this humanitarian." What I'm showing you this humanitarian." What I'm showing you is that according to the data, vast swas is that according to the data, vast swas is that according to the data, vast swas of this money was not humanitarian aid of this money was not humanitarian aid of this money was not humanitarian aid at all. at all. at all. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> At all. It was gasoline funding overtly >> At all. It was gasoline funding overtly >> At all. It was gasoline funding overtly wicked ideologies among the nations to wicked ideologies among the nations to wicked ideologies among the nations to export them. Okay. So, here's a export them. Okay. So, here's a export them. Okay. So, here's a question, Carlos. Well, you may be question, Carlos. Well, you may be question, Carlos. Well, you may be going, "Wait a second, dude. What does going, "Wait a second, dude. What does going, "Wait a second, dude. What does USAD money have anything to do with USAD money have anything to do with USAD money have anything to do with elections?" Okay. Well, dude, check this elections?" Okay. Well, dude, check this elections?" Okay. Well, dude, check this out. I'm reading this straight from uh out. I'm reading this straight from uh out. I'm reading this straight from uh the USAD's the USAD's the USAD's own fact sheet. So this is not this own fact sheet. So this is not this own fact sheet. So this is not this isn't like Breitbart. This is like the isn't like Breitbart. This is like the isn't like Breitbart. This is like the USAD's the government's own fact sheet. USAD's the government's own fact sheet. USAD's the government's own fact sheet. Okay, listen. In 2023, Okay, listen. In 2023, Okay, listen. In 2023, USAD funded and trained, bro, watch USAD funded and trained, bro, watch USAD funded and trained, bro, watch this. 6,200 this. 6,200 this. 6,200 journalists in Latin America, bankrolled journalists in Latin America, bankrolled journalists in Latin America, bankrolled 77 media outlets in Latin America, and 77 media outlets in Latin America, and 77 media outlets in Latin America, and backed 279 backed 279 backed 279 media NOS across 30 countries. So, not media NOS across 30 countries. So, not media NOS across 30 countries. So, not just in Latin America, to the tune of just in Latin America, to the tune of just in Latin America, to the tune of Carlos Arazzo, $270 million per year.

Carlos Arazzo, $270 million per year. Carlos Arazzo, $270 million per year. Okay, now check this out, dude. So, Okay, now check this out, dude. So, Okay, now check this out, dude. So, think about this. Okay, let's go back to think about this. Okay, let's go back to think about this. Okay, let's go back to the first story. What the schools the first story. What the schools the first story. What the schools started figuring out is, huh, we're started figuring out is, huh, we're started figuring out is, huh, we're probably not going to keep getting the probably not going to keep getting the probably not going to keep getting the money if we don't teach stuff that money if we don't teach stuff that money if we don't teach stuff that aligns with the ideologies that they're aligns with the ideologies that they're aligns with the ideologies that they're wanting to advance. Well, hey, bro, what wanting to advance. Well, hey, bro, what wanting to advance. Well, hey, bro, what do you think the journalists were do you think the journalists were do you think the journalists were probably thinking? probably thinking? probably thinking? >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. That my friend is how this money That my friend is how this money That my friend is how this money according to this research was getting according to this research was getting according to this research was getting used to it was actually radically used to it was actually radically used to it was actually radically influencing elections to swing them influencing elections to swing them influencing elections to swing them progressive in Latin American countries progressive in Latin American countries progressive in Latin American countries which as you know Latin American which as you know Latin American which as you know Latin American countries are not by default mode very countries are not by default mode very countries are not by default mode very progressive. progressive. progressive. >> Nope. And we don't want it. >> Nope. And we don't want it. >> Nope. And we don't want it. >> Not so much my friend. In fact bro this >> Not so much my friend. In fact bro this >> Not so much my friend. In fact bro this will blow your mind. From this this will blow your mind. From this this will blow your mind. From this this fact's like I was sitting in my office fact's like I was sitting in my office fact's like I was sitting in my office like dying. From 2020 to 2024, like dying. From 2020 to 2024, like dying. From 2020 to 2024, USAD money was 75% USAD money was 75% USAD money was 75% of all donor funding to the Latin of all donor funding to the Latin of all donor funding to the Latin American media.

American media. American media. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Bro, I'm going to say that one more >> Bro, I'm going to say that one more >> Bro, I'm going to say that one more time. time. time. >> From 2020 to 2024, USAD money 75% of all >> From 2020 to 2024, USAD money 75% of all >> From 2020 to 2024, USAD money 75% of all donor funding to the Latin American donor funding to the Latin American donor funding to the Latin American media. And then you wonder, huh, I media. And then you wonder, huh, I media. And then you wonder, huh, I wonder why a region that's not very wonder why a region that's not very wonder why a region that's not very progressive was constantly skewing progressive was constantly skewing progressive was constantly skewing progressive. Okay, now let me just do progressive. Okay, now let me just do progressive. Okay, now let me just do one last thing that's theological for one last thing that's theological for one last thing that's theological for Christians Christians Christians >> on this because this trips people up and >> on this because this trips people up and >> on this because this trips people up and then then I want to do the other two then then I want to do the other two then then I want to do the other two much quicker than this, but this is much quicker than this, but this is much quicker than this, but this is really important. Okay, really important. Okay, really important. Okay, >> if you're a Christian, you're going to >> if you're a Christian, you're going to >> if you're a Christian, you're going to get thrown at this at you a lot and you get thrown at this at you a lot and you get thrown at this at you a lot and you uh doubt it does it here. But what what uh doubt it does it here. But what what uh doubt it does it here. But what what what people do is they go, "Hey man, um what people do is they go, "Hey man, um what people do is they go, "Hey man, um Jesus fed the poor and uh cared for the Jesus fed the poor and uh cared for the Jesus fed the poor and uh cared for the hurting and uh you know helped the you hurting and uh you know helped the you hurting and uh you know helped the you know the homeless or whatever it is." know the homeless or whatever it is." know the homeless or whatever it is." And so you not voting for the government And so you not voting for the government And so you not voting for the government to do those things you know maybe like to do those things you know maybe like to do those things you know maybe like socialist light or you know wealth socialist light or you know wealth socialist light or you know wealth redistri redistri redistri redistributive policies that kind of redistributive policies that kind of redistributive policies that kind of thing high high welfare concepts. If thing high high welfare concepts. If thing high high welfare concepts. If you're not voting for that, you don't you're not voting for that, you don't you're not voting for that, you don't care for the poor.

care for the poor. care for the poor. >> And so, man, actually, that's uncrist. >> And so, man, actually, that's uncrist. >> And so, man, actually, that's uncrist. That's kind of what Doubt is doing here. That's kind of what Doubt is doing here. That's kind of what Doubt is doing here. Okay, dude. Christians have to get you. Okay, dude. Christians have to get you. Okay, dude. Christians have to get you. You got to really internalize this. Um, You got to really internalize this. Um, You got to really internalize this. Um, in the Bible, I'm going to do my little in the Bible, I'm going to do my little in the Bible, I'm going to do my little riff that I I do it all the time because riff that I I do it all the time because riff that I I do it all the time because I need Christians to understand this. In I need Christians to understand this. In I need Christians to understand this. In the Bible, God created three the Bible, God created three the Bible, God created three institutions uh that when working in the institutions uh that when working in the institutions uh that when working in the right way, uh uh result in human right way, uh uh result in human right way, uh uh result in human flourishing. The family, the church, and flourishing. The family, the church, and flourishing. The family, the church, and the state. All three of the the state. All three of the the state. All three of the institutions, they have different roles. institutions, they have different roles. institutions, they have different roles. The family has a role. The church has a The family has a role. The church has a The family has a role. The church has a role. The state has a role. Okay. Um role. The state has a role. Okay. Um role. The state has a role. Okay. Um poverty care, welfare, caring for the poverty care, welfare, caring for the poverty care, welfare, caring for the poor in the Bible, that's primarily the poor in the Bible, that's primarily the poor in the Bible, that's primarily the job of Christians and churches. It is job of Christians and churches. It is job of Christians and churches. It is not primarily the job of the government. not primarily the job of the government. not primarily the job of the government. So when people are like, Jesus said to So when people are like, Jesus said to So when people are like, Jesus said to feed the poor, my response is Jesus did feed the poor, my response is Jesus did feed the poor, my response is Jesus did not command governments to do that. That not command governments to do that. That not command governments to do that. That don't don't throw that at me. That is so don't don't throw that at me. That is so don't don't throw that at me. That is so when widows needed feeding in Acts six, when widows needed feeding in Acts six, when widows needed feeding in Acts six, Paul appoints deacons. He doesn't send Paul appoints deacons. He doesn't send Paul appoints deacons. He doesn't send an activist to Rome. an activist to Rome. an activist to Rome. >> Okay. So in the Bible, this is really >> Okay. So in the Bible, this is really >> Okay. So in the Bible, this is really important. In the Bible, the commands to important. In the Bible, the commands to important. In the Bible, the commands to And by the way, Christians must not, And by the way, Christians must not, And by the way, Christians must not, you're not allowed to let your hearten you're not allowed to let your hearten you're not allowed to let your hearten towards the poor and stop caring about towards the poor and stop caring about towards the poor and stop caring about those things. Just because we have the those things. Just because we have the those things. Just because we have the spirit sovereign thing, you're not spirit sovereign thing, you're not spirit sovereign thing, you're not allowed to just go, "Ah, I'm hardened allowed to just go, "Ah, I'm hardened allowed to just go, "Ah, I'm hardened to." No, no. That's our job as to." No, no. That's our job as to." No, no. That's our job as Christians, families, and churches.

Christians, families, and churches. Christians, families, and churches. Okay? We're all all in on that. Okay. Okay? We're all all in on that. Okay. Okay? We're all all in on that. Okay. But but here here's what you're going to But but here here's what you're going to But but here here's what you're going to get. Romans 13 role of the state. The get. Romans 13 role of the state. The get. Romans 13 role of the state. The primary role of the state is to quote primary role of the state is to quote primary role of the state is to quote bear the sword, incentivize doing good, bear the sword, incentivize doing good, bear the sword, incentivize doing good, penalize doing evil. That's the penalize doing evil. That's the penalize doing evil. That's the government's job. Other other than that, government's job. Other other than that, government's job. Other other than that, just kind of stay out of our way. That's just kind of stay out of our way. That's just kind of stay out of our way. That's kind of the that's kind of the job of kind of the that's kind of the job of kind of the that's kind of the job of the government. So the reason for that the government. So the reason for that the government. So the reason for that is with governments, you tend to get is with governments, you tend to get is with governments, you tend to get more of what you incentivize and less of more of what you incentivize and less of more of what you incentivize and less of what you penalize. That's really what you penalize. That's really what you penalize. That's really important. With governments, you tend to important. With governments, you tend to important. With governments, you tend to get more of what you incentivize and get more of what you incentivize and get more of what you incentivize and less of what you penalize. That is why, less of what you penalize. That is why, less of what you penalize. That is why, Carlos, this, you'll notice this. Just Carlos, this, you'll notice this. Just Carlos, this, you'll notice this. Just watch. You're going to see all over the watch. You're going to see all over the watch. You're going to see all over the place. That's why cities and states that place. That's why cities and states that place. That's why cities and states that tend to throw the most money at tend to throw the most money at tend to throw the most money at homelessness. homelessness. homelessness. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> They do not end up solving homelessness. >> They do not end up solving homelessness. >> They do not end up solving homelessness. >> Do you know what they do? >> Do you know what they do? >> Do you know what they do? >> They create more homelessness. >> They create more homelessness. >> They create more homelessness. >> Why? Because with governments, you tend >> Why? Because with governments, you tend >> Why? Because with governments, you tend to get more of what you incentivize and to get more of what you incentivize and to get more of what you incentivize and less of what you penalize. which is why less of what you penalize. which is why less of what you penalize. which is why God designed individual Christians, God designed individual Christians, God designed individual Christians, families, and churches to be the ones families, and churches to be the ones families, and churches to be the ones who are like, "Dude, we're the ones who who are like, "Dude, we're the ones who who are like, "Dude, we're the ones who step into the gap and we care for the step into the gap and we care for the step into the gap and we care for the poor poor. We do we do charity, that poor poor. We do we do charity, that poor poor. We do we do charity, that kind of thing." So, I I I go back to kind of thing." So, I I I go back to kind of thing." So, I I I go back to this all the time. Data shows this this all the time. Data shows this this all the time. Data shows this literally came out like two weeks ago as literally came out like two weeks ago as literally came out like two weeks ago as an organization called Giving Pulse an organization called Giving Pulse an organization called Giving Pulse Conservative Christians. So, so what Conservative Christians. So, so what Conservative Christians. So, so what people throw at you like kind of this people throw at you like kind of this people throw at you like kind of this doubt not doing this, but it's a vibe doubt not doing this, but it's a vibe doubt not doing this, but it's a vibe you'll get. If you're if you're a you'll get. If you're if you're a you'll get. If you're if you're a Christian that's a little more Christian that's a little more Christian that's a little more conservative theologically, culturally, conservative theologically, culturally, conservative theologically, culturally, what people throw at you is like, "Oh what people throw at you is like, "Oh what people throw at you is like, "Oh man, you're not generous to the poor man, you're not generous to the poor man, you're not generous to the poor because you vote this certain way." Bro, because you vote this certain way." Bro, because you vote this certain way." Bro, the data literally, this is this is

the data literally, this is this is the data literally, this is this is giving pulse just came out. The data giving pulse just came out. The data giving pulse just came out. The data literally shows conservative Christians literally shows conservative Christians literally shows conservative Christians give 75% give 75% give 75% more. Some some studies show up to three more. Some some studies show up to three more. Some some studies show up to three times more. times more. times more. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Than progressives to the poor. Like they >> Than progressives to the poor. Like they >> Than progressives to the poor. Like they actually just give their money away to actually just give their money away to actually just give their money away to charity. 75% to three times more. Okay. charity. 75% to three times more. Okay. charity. 75% to three times more. Okay. Uh, so, so you just got to get this in Uh, so, so you just got to get this in Uh, so, so you just got to get this in your head. When conservatives use the your head. When conservatives use the your head. When conservatives use the word generosity, they mean generosity word generosity, they mean generosity word generosity, they mean generosity with their own money. with their own money. with their own money. >> When progressives use the word >> When progressives use the word >> When progressives use the word generosity, they mean vote for somebody generosity, they mean vote for somebody generosity, they mean vote for somebody to take somebody else's money away from to take somebody else's money away from to take somebody else's money away from them and give it away. So, they mean them and give it away. So, they mean them and give it away. So, they mean generosity with somebody else's money. generosity with somebody else's money. generosity with somebody else's money. So, anyway, I just want to boil all this So, anyway, I just want to boil all this So, anyway, I just want to boil all this down. The bottom line, when Dow is like, down. The bottom line, when Dow is like, down. The bottom line, when Dow is like, "Hey, man, you're, you know, you're "Hey, man, you're, you know, you're "Hey, man, you're, you know, you're opposing us. You're opposing opposing us. You're opposing opposing us. You're opposing humanitarian aid, that kind of thing." humanitarian aid, that kind of thing." humanitarian aid, that kind of thing." Okay. opposing US ID, large swats of it. Okay. opposing US ID, large swats of it. Okay. opposing US ID, large swats of it. That's not opposing mercy and That's not opposing mercy and That's not opposing mercy and humanitarian aid. It's refusing to call humanitarian aid. It's refusing to call humanitarian aid. It's refusing to call a progressive political slush fund a progressive political slush fund a progressive political slush fund humanitarian aid. And it's refusing to humanitarian aid. And it's refusing to humanitarian aid. And it's refusing to let Caesar eat the role of the church. let Caesar eat the role of the church. let Caesar eat the role of the church. Does that make sense?

Does that make sense? Does that make sense? >> That makes sense. And honestly, by the >> That makes sense. And honestly, by the >> That makes sense. And honestly, by the way, by the grace of God, we we are a way, by the grace of God, we we are a way, by the grace of God, we we are a church that we partner with literally church that we partner with literally church that we partner with literally churches all over the world, including churches all over the world, including churches all over the world, including Latin America. And we want to empower Latin America. And we want to empower Latin America. And we want to empower the local church to be the people that the local church to be the people that the local church to be the people that have helped literally and bless the have helped literally and bless the have helped literally and bless the city. And so even with the Venezuela city. And so even with the Venezuela city. And so even with the Venezuela thing happening recently, like again, thing happening recently, like again, thing happening recently, like again, uh, man, we give to our church because uh, man, we give to our church because uh, man, we give to our church because our church is giving continually and we our church is giving continually and we our church is giving continually and we we have the right partners and the right we have the right partners and the right we have the right partners and the right people on the ground. And so, uh, it's a people on the ground. And so, uh, it's a people on the ground. And so, uh, it's a it's a how what can I give? That's it's a how what can I give? That's it's a how what can I give? That's right. How can I be generous? right. How can I be generous? right. How can I be generous? >> That's right. Yeah, dude. Yeah. I we >> That's right. Yeah, dude. Yeah. I we >> That's right. Yeah, dude. Yeah. I we it's it's it's our mission's budget is over $8 million our mission's budget is over $8 million our mission's budget is over $8 million a year. I drove the church yesterday a year. I drove the church yesterday a year. I drove the church yesterday that there's a the food pantry line is that there's a the food pantry line is that there's a the food pantry line is is literally wrapped around the pier. is literally wrapped around the pier. is literally wrapped around the pier. That's right. because everyone in this That's right. because everyone in this That's right. because everyone in this area knows if our family is struggling, area knows if our family is struggling, area knows if our family is struggling, the people of Lake Point will help us. the people of Lake Point will help us. the people of Lake Point will help us. >> We want to be a blessing to the city and >> We want to be a blessing to the city and >> We want to be a blessing to the city and to other people as a church. to other people as a church. to other people as a church. >> All right, let me do the other two much >> All right, let me do the other two much >> All right, let me do the other two much quicker cuz these do get these do get quicker cuz these do get these do get quicker cuz these do get these do get thrown. Do the next one. thrown. Do the next one. thrown. Do the next one. >> It has kept religious conservatives, >> It has kept religious conservatives, >> It has kept religious conservatives, pro-life organizations especially, at pro-life organizations especially, at pro-life organizations especially, at arms length in a way that has led to a arms length in a way that has led to a arms length in a way that has led to a lot of criticism.

lot of criticism. lot of criticism. >> Awesome. Okay, so that's the second >> Awesome. Okay, so that's the second >> Awesome. Okay, so that's the second accusation is, hey man, Trump accusation is, hey man, Trump accusation is, hey man, Trump administration uh kept religious administration uh kept religious administration uh kept religious organizations and pro-life organizations organizations and pro-life organizations organizations and pro-life organizations at bay. I I even like I heard this a at bay. I I even like I heard this a at bay. I I even like I heard this a well-meaning but misinformed pastor on well-meaning but misinformed pastor on well-meaning but misinformed pastor on podcast this week. You know, Trump is podcast this week. You know, Trump is podcast this week. You know, Trump is actually pro-choice and you know, he actually pro-choice and you know, he actually pro-choice and you know, he he's approving uh uh the abortion pill he's approving uh uh the abortion pill he's approving uh uh the abortion pill to get mailed all over the place and to get mailed all over the place and to get mailed all over the place and abortions have gone up since doss. Okay, abortions have gone up since doss. Okay, abortions have gone up since doss. Okay, this this kind of thing people throw at this this kind of thing people throw at this this kind of thing people throw at you. So, let me just if you're a you. So, let me just if you're a you. So, let me just if you're a Christian, let me help you understand Christian, let me help you understand Christian, let me help you understand what's going on. First of all, let me what's going on. First of all, let me what's going on. First of all, let me concede some things that are true that I concede some things that are true that I concede some things that are true that I wish were different. This is where my wish were different. This is where my wish were different. This is where my Christian is over my quote unquote Christian is over my quote unquote Christian is over my quote unquote conservative. Okay. Number one, I conservative. Okay. Number one, I conservative. Okay. Number one, I honestly, dude, I was disappointed like honestly, dude, I was disappointed like honestly, dude, I was disappointed like during the uh uh during the uh uh the during the uh uh during the uh uh the during the uh uh during the uh uh the campaign uh the Trump administration, campaign uh the Trump administration, campaign uh the Trump administration, they declined to endorse the possibility they declined to endorse the possibility they declined to endorse the possibility of a national ban on abortion. Like to of a national ban on abortion. Like to of a national ban on abortion. Like to me, murder, actually, not to me, to God, me, murder, actually, not to me, to God, me, murder, actually, not to me, to God, murder is murder. It's like, yeah, like murder is murder. It's like, yeah, like murder is murder. It's like, yeah, like we should be able to tes down. Doesn't we should be able to tes down. Doesn't we should be able to tes down. Doesn't matter if anybody freaks out. Yes, we matter if anybody freaks out. Yes, we matter if anybody freaks out. Yes, we want a national ban on killing people.

want a national ban on killing people. want a national ban on killing people. Yeah, we do. Okay, that disappointed me. Yeah, we do. Okay, that disappointed me. Yeah, we do. Okay, that disappointed me. Number two, um uh the uh they dropped in Number two, um uh the uh they dropped in Number two, um uh the uh they dropped in 2024, they dropped the national ban 2024, they dropped the national ban 2024, they dropped the national ban plank from the publicly stated policy plank from the publicly stated policy plank from the publicly stated policy proposals. So, until 2024, it been like, proposals. So, until 2024, it been like, proposals. So, until 2024, it been like, yep, we're trying to push for a national yep, we're trying to push for a national yep, we're trying to push for a national ban. U when they this is a little weedsy ban. U when they this is a little weedsy ban. U when they this is a little weedsy when they overturned DOS kind of the uh when they overturned DOS kind of the uh when they overturned DOS kind of the uh at the Supreme Court or they overturned at the Supreme Court or they overturned at the Supreme Court or they overturned Row Vway Row Vway Row Vway the mentality was hey we're pushing uh the mentality was hey we're pushing uh the mentality was hey we're pushing uh the decisions back to the states I will the decisions back to the states I will the decisions back to the states I will say if you want a history nerd out the say if you want a history nerd out the say if you want a history nerd out the federalist system this is just my little federalist system this is just my little federalist system this is just my little inner history nerd the federalist system inner history nerd the federalist system inner history nerd the federalist system was originally designed for states to was originally designed for states to was originally designed for states to really almost function like many nations really almost function like many nations really almost function like many nations with significantly more uh autonomy with significantly more uh autonomy with significantly more uh autonomy >> so you know whatever but uh 2024 they >> so you know whatever but uh 2024 they >> so you know whatever but uh 2024 they did drop the national band plank from uh did drop the national band plank from uh did drop the national band plank from uh uh the proposals. I I don't like it. uh the proposals. I I don't like it. uh the proposals. I I don't like it. >> I was disappointed. Number three, uh >> I was disappointed. Number three, uh >> I was disappointed. Number three, uh they did the um the thing of uh of they did the um the thing of uh of they did the um the thing of uh of wanting to support IVF funding. And we wanting to support IVF funding. And we wanting to support IVF funding. And we don't have time to talk about this. uh don't have time to talk about this. uh don't have time to talk about this. uh not all there are ways to from what I not all there are ways to from what I not all there are ways to from what I understand there are ways to do IVF that understand there are ways to do IVF that understand there are ways to do IVF that honestly I will say are rare and and are honestly I will say are rare and and are honestly I will say are rare and and are can be carefully done that will avoid can be carefully done that will avoid can be carefully done that will avoid the destruction of um fertilized uh the destruction of um fertilized uh the destruction of um fertilized uh embryos that that you know life begins embryos that that you know life begins embryos that that you know life begins at conception uh all the scriptures so I at conception uh all the scriptures so I at conception uh all the scriptures so I didn't like that so I'm just conceding didn't like that so I'm just conceding didn't like that so I'm just conceding some things don't like it I don't like some things don't like it I don't like some things don't like it I don't like it at all okay it at all okay it at all okay >> but it is insane for people to >> but it is insane for people to >> but it is insane for people to characterize uh the Trump administration characterize uh the Trump administration characterize uh the Trump administration as quote unquote pro-choice. Man, they

as quote unquote pro-choice. Man, they as quote unquote pro-choice. Man, they actually haven't done anything. actually haven't done anything. actually haven't done anything. >> You know, actually, there's really no >> You know, actually, there's really no >> You know, actually, there's really no difference between the, you know, difference between the, you know, difference between the, you know, Democratic party and the conser, you Democratic party and the conser, you Democratic party and the conser, you know, it's insane. Let me just rattle know, it's insane. Let me just rattle know, it's insane. Let me just rattle some things off, please. some things off, please. some things off, please. >> So, one thing that you'll hear, um, >> So, one thing that you'll hear, um, >> So, one thing that you'll hear, um, again, well-meaning but misinformed or again, well-meaning but misinformed or again, well-meaning but misinformed or naive people, oh, Trump approved the, naive people, oh, Trump approved the, naive people, oh, Trump approved the, uh, the abortion, uh, pill. No, that's uh, the abortion, uh, pill. No, that's uh, the abortion, uh, pill. No, that's not true. uh Trump and the F uh the not true. uh Trump and the F uh the not true. uh Trump and the F uh the Trump FDA and RFK ordered a safety Trump FDA and RFK ordered a safety Trump FDA and RFK ordered a safety review of if I'm pronouncing this review of if I'm pronouncing this review of if I'm pronouncing this correctly, methristone. It's a it's a correctly, methristone. It's a it's a correctly, methristone. It's a it's a abortion pill. They they ordered a abortion pill. They they ordered a abortion pill. They they ordered a safety review which they were legally safety review which they were legally safety review which they were legally required to do. They just uh all that is required to do. They just uh all that is required to do. They just uh all that is there's a legal requirement. I I read up there's a legal requirement. I I read up there's a legal requirement. I I read up on this this week um for the FDA to on this this week um for the FDA to on this this week um for the FDA to order a safety review if a generic drug order a safety review if a generic drug order a safety review if a generic drug that is the same thing or or almost the that is the same thing or or almost the that is the same thing or or almost the same thing same thing same thing >> as a a drug that's already been made. >> as a a drug that's already been made. >> as a a drug that's already been made. >> They have to order a safety. It's >> They have to order a safety. It's >> They have to order a safety. It's illegally required. So that's what illegally required. So that's what illegally required. So that's what methopristone was. It's a generic just methopristone was. It's a generic just methopristone was. It's a generic just they had to do it. Number two, uh the they had to do it. Number two, uh the they had to do it. Number two, uh the FDA has not restricted the pill. Okay, FDA has not restricted the pill. Okay, FDA has not restricted the pill. Okay, that that that's it. Now, dude, here's that that that's it. Now, dude, here's that that that's it. Now, dude, here's the thing that people don't understand.

the thing that people don't understand. the thing that people don't understand. This this going on. This this going on. This this going on. Uh Uh Uh wait, I said that wrong. Yeah. Yeah. wait, I said that wrong. Yeah. Yeah. wait, I said that wrong. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, no, I said it right. Here's Actually, no, I said it right. Here's Actually, no, I said it right. Here's the other thing people don't know that's the other thing people don't know that's the other thing people don't know that's happening. That's going to lead me to happening. That's going to lead me to happening. That's going to lead me to the next thing. What a lot of people are the next thing. What a lot of people are the next thing. What a lot of people are unaware it's happening is progressive unaware it's happening is progressive unaware it's happening is progressive states, blue states, they're enacting sh states, blue states, they're enacting sh states, blue states, they're enacting sh what are called shield laws. This is New what are called shield laws. This is New what are called shield laws. This is New York and California, states like this. York and California, states like this. York and California, states like this. >> Um, they passed laws. Bro, this is >> Um, they passed laws. Bro, this is >> Um, they passed laws. Bro, this is insane. Promising uh doctors doing insane. Promising uh doctors doing insane. Promising uh doctors doing abortions. Hey, if you guys remember the abortions. Hey, if you guys remember the abortions. Hey, if you guys remember the claim is, man, under the Trump claim is, man, under the Trump claim is, man, under the Trump administration, they're they're they're administration, they're they're they're administration, they're they're they're just approving mailing abortion pills just approving mailing abortion pills just approving mailing abortion pills all over the place. And that's why all over the place. And that's why all over the place. And that's why abortions are actually up since stops. abortions are actually up since stops. abortions are actually up since stops. Okay. Okay. Okay. >> No. No. Here's what's actually >> No. No. Here's what's actually >> No. No. Here's what's actually happening. Um, blue states like New York happening. Um, blue states like New York happening. Um, blue states like New York and California are passing shield laws and California are passing shield laws and California are passing shield laws promising doctors in their states. If promising doctors in their states. If promising doctors in their states. If you mail abortion pills to states that you mail abortion pills to states that you mail abortion pills to states that have banned them, we in our state will have banned them, we in our state will have banned them, we in our state will refuse to extradite you will refuse to refuse to extradite you will refuse to refuse to extradite you will refuse to honor their subpoenas and we will honor their subpoenas and we will honor their subpoenas and we will protect your license.

protect your license. protect your license. >> So actually what's happening is >> So actually what's happening is >> So actually what's happening is Democratic uh leaders are enacting these Democratic uh leaders are enacting these Democratic uh leaders are enacting these laws. these it's the progressive states laws. these it's the progressive states laws. these it's the progressive states are the ones that are that are max are the ones that are that are max are the ones that are that are max boosting and doing the mailin thing. boosting and doing the mailin thing. boosting and doing the mailin thing. Now, the other thing people say is Now, the other thing people say is Now, the other thing people say is abortions. They're like, "Oh, nothing abortions. They're like, "Oh, nothing abortions. They're like, "Oh, nothing he's done matters. Abortions actually he's done matters. Abortions actually he's done matters. Abortions actually went up after the overturning row uh went up after the overturning row uh went up after the overturning row uh because of DOS." Okay. Well, that's because of DOS." Okay. Well, that's because of DOS." Okay. Well, that's extremely misleading. Toss that graph up extremely misleading. Toss that graph up extremely misleading. Toss that graph up there real quick. Triny. there real quick. Triny. there real quick. Triny. >> The entire increase in abortions after >> The entire increase in abortions after >> The entire increase in abortions after the overturn row uh happened before the overturn row uh happened before the overturn row uh happened before Trump took office under Biden. Trump took office under Biden. Trump took office under Biden. >> Like literally all of them. Look at Do >> Like literally all of them. Look at Do >> Like literally all of them. Look at Do you see you can see DOS's overturn right you see you can see DOS's overturn right you see you can see DOS's overturn right there? Yep. June 2022. there? Yep. June 2022. there? Yep. June 2022. >> So literally all all So it's one of >> So literally all all So it's one of >> So literally all all So it's one of those things where it's like, hey, those things where it's like, hey, those things where it's like, hey, technically what you're saying is true. technically what you're saying is true. technically what you're saying is true. >> All of it happened under Biden, guys. >> All of it happened under Biden, guys. >> All of it happened under Biden, guys. >> And then so then you go, well then how >> And then so then you go, well then how >> And then so then you go, well then how is it happening? You're like, how is is it happening? You're like, how is is it happening? You're like, how is how's it happening? Go to the next how's it happening? Go to the next how's it happening? Go to the next graph. Well, here's how it's happening. graph. Well, here's how it's happening. graph. Well, here's how it's happening. What's happening is all the blue states, What's happening is all the blue states, What's happening is all the blue states, they're doing things like the shield they're doing things like the shield they're doing things like the shield laws and max boosting abortion in laws and max boosting abortion in laws and max boosting abortion in response to these things. So, what's response to these things. So, what's response to these things. So, what's happening is abortions have fallen happening is abortions have fallen happening is abortions have fallen sometimes very precipitously sometimes very precipitously sometimes very precipitously >> in states that have enacted uh more >> in states that have enacted uh more >> in states that have enacted uh more restrictive laws appropriately restrictive laws appropriately restrictive laws appropriately >> and then the other states the the blue >> and then the other states the the blue >> and then the other states the the blue states are max boosting it. So, let me states are max boosting it. So, let me states are max boosting it. So, let me just finish this real quick. If you're just finish this real quick. If you're just finish this real quick. If you're going, "Hey, dude, Trump's actually

going, "Hey, dude, Trump's actually going, "Hey, dude, Trump's actually functionally pro-choice. This is not functionally pro-choice. This is not functionally pro-choice. This is not actually doing anything." Here's here's actually doing anything." Here's here's actually doing anything." Here's here's some data. Uh, number one, he obviously some data. Uh, number one, he obviously some data. Uh, number one, he obviously he appointed three Supreme Court he appointed three Supreme Court he appointed three Supreme Court justices that overturned Row. That's a justices that overturned Row. That's a justices that overturned Row. That's a big deal. big deal. big deal. >> Since then, 41 states have enacted >> Since then, 41 states have enacted >> Since then, 41 states have enacted abortion limits. They were not able to abortion limits. They were not able to abortion limits. They were not able to do it before then. do it before then. do it before then. >> 13 of those 41 states protect life from >> 13 of those 41 states protect life from >> 13 of those 41 states protect life from conception. That's amazing. conception. That's amazing. conception. That's amazing. >> Wow. appointed 234 judges uh just in his >> Wow. appointed 234 judges uh just in his >> Wow. appointed 234 judges uh just in his first term. Bro, that that's that's a first term. Bro, that that's that's a first term. Bro, that that's that's a stinking big deal. That starts working stinking big deal. That starts working stinking big deal. That starts working its way through the entire That's a big its way through the entire That's a big its way through the entire That's a big deal. They overturned something called deal. They overturned something called deal. They overturned something called the Mexico City policy where essentially the Mexico City policy where essentially the Mexico City policy where essentially foreign organizations that take US foreign organizations that take US foreign organizations that take US health money, they can't perform or health money, they can't perform or health money, they can't perform or promote abortions overseas. That's a big promote abortions overseas. That's a big promote abortions overseas. That's a big deal. Kind of the same thing as USAD deal. Kind of the same thing as USAD deal. Kind of the same thing as USAD thing. Uh the one big beautiful bill I thing. Uh the one big beautiful bill I thing. Uh the one big beautiful bill I think is it was called um defunded think is it was called um defunded think is it was called um defunded Planned Parenthood which barred Medicaid Planned Parenthood which barred Medicaid Planned Parenthood which barred Medicaid dollars to abortion providers. They sued dollars to abortion providers. They sued dollars to abortion providers. They sued and then they lost. So that stayed in and then they lost. So that stayed in and then they lost. So that stayed in place. And then there was a whole place. And then there was a whole place. And then there was a whole executive order that reinforced executive order that reinforced executive order that reinforced something called the the hide amendment something called the the hide amendment something called the the hide amendment that was about limiting or restricting that was about limiting or restricting that was about limiting or restricting government funded abortions. Okay. So government funded abortions. Okay. So government funded abortions. Okay. So dude, that stuff that's a stinking big dude, that stuff that's a stinking big dude, that stuff that's a stinking big deal. And then the last thing I'll say deal. And then the last thing I'll say deal. And then the last thing I'll say is what what you you'll hear some more is what what you you'll hear some more is what what you you'll hear some more progressive Christians do. It's like, progressive Christians do. It's like, progressive Christians do. It's like, hey man, you know, now that you know hey man, you know, now that you know hey man, you know, now that you know they removed the the ban thing from the they removed the the ban thing from the they removed the the ban thing from the uh the the policy proposals, you know, uh the the policy proposals, you know, uh the the policy proposals, you know, it's really just it's really just it's really just >> both parties are the same on this issue.

>> both parties are the same on this issue. >> both parties are the same on this issue. Now, Now, Now, >> that honestly, dude, you got to like >> that honestly, dude, you got to like >> that honestly, dude, you got to like actually lie to yourself to believe actually lie to yourself to believe actually lie to yourself to believe that. Mhm. that. Mhm. that. Mhm. >> So, the bill that um the Democratic >> So, the bill that um the Democratic >> So, the bill that um the Democratic Party said they were going to pass, it's Party said they were going to pass, it's Party said they were going to pass, it's called the Women's Health Protection called the Women's Health Protection called the Women's Health Protection Act, Act, Act, more extreme than Roie ever was. Uh in more extreme than Roie ever was. Uh in more extreme than Roie ever was. Uh in plain English, it would have done three plain English, it would have done three plain English, it would have done three things. One, bro, this is think about things. One, bro, this is think about things. One, bro, this is think about this. Forbid any state, this. Forbid any state, this. Forbid any state, any state from restricting abortion any state from restricting abortion any state from restricting abortion before vi viability. So, you would no before vi viability. So, you would no before vi viability. So, you would no state would legally have been about a state would legally have been about a state would legally have been about a death. So no Harvey bill, every 15week death. So no Harvey bill, every 15week death. So no Harvey bill, every 15week law, every waiting period, all gone. law, every waiting period, all gone. law, every waiting period, all gone. Number two, after viability, so third Number two, after viability, so third Number two, after viability, so third trimester, it would have allowed trimester, it would have allowed trimester, it would have allowed abortion whenever a single provider abortion whenever a single provider abortion whenever a single provider makes a quote goodfaith medical judgment makes a quote goodfaith medical judgment makes a quote goodfaith medical judgment that the pregnancy risks the mother's that the pregnancy risks the mother's that the pregnancy risks the mother's quote unquote health. A term courts have quote unquote health. A term courts have quote unquote health. A term courts have read to include why this is important. read to include why this is important. read to include why this is important. So all of us are like, "Hey man, this we So all of us are like, "Hey man, this we So all of us are like, "Hey man, this we don't have time to go into this. don't have time to go into this. don't have time to go into this. Sometimes people um will call Sometimes people um will call Sometimes people um will call miscarriages abortions in order to miscarriages abortions in order to miscarriages abortions in order to weaponize it against uh conservatives weaponize it against uh conservatives weaponize it against uh conservatives sometimes." Um but what they did is uh sometimes." Um but what they did is uh sometimes." Um but what they did is uh they they were writing into this bill um they they were writing into this bill um they they were writing into this bill um uh good faith medical judgment the uh good faith medical judgment the uh good faith medical judgment the pregnancy risk the mother's quote pregnancy risk the mother's quote pregnancy risk the mother's quote unquote health unquote health unquote health >> but then they're they were getting >> but then they're they were getting >> but then they're they were getting courts to read emotional health into courts to read emotional health into courts to read emotional health into what so anybody could walk in and be what so anybody could walk in and be what so anybody could walk in and be like I'm I'm depressed because of this like I'm I'm depressed because of this like I'm I'm depressed because of this so can I kill my kid yes you see what so can I kill my kid yes you see what so can I kill my kid yes you see what I'm saying the answer would have been I'm saying the answer would have been I'm saying the answer would have been yes so would have done that and then yes so would have done that and then yes so would have done that and then number three here here's a biggie their number three here here's a biggie their number three here here's a biggie their bill would have overridden every single

bill would have overridden every single bill would have overridden every single state prolife law in the country in one state prolife law in the country in one state prolife law in the country in one vote. vote. vote. >> So, man, can we can we please stop >> So, man, can we can we please stop >> So, man, can we can we please stop pretend like dude like we're either pretend like dude like we're either pretend like dude like we're either lying to other people intentionally or lying to other people intentionally or lying to other people intentionally or we're lying to ourselves to make it we're lying to ourselves to make it we're lying to ourselves to make it sound like sound like sound like >> these are moral equivalents. Okay, now >> these are moral equivalents. Okay, now >> these are moral equivalents. Okay, now >> let's do the last one and then we're >> let's do the last one and then we're >> let's do the last one and then we're going to shut this thing down so we can going to shut this thing down so we can going to shut this thing down so we can talk to to Raymond. All right, here we talk to to Raymond. All right, here we talk to to Raymond. All right, here we go. go. go. >> And then, you know, let's let's be >> And then, you know, let's let's be >> And then, you know, let's let's be honest, the tone honest, the tone honest, the tone >> of the administration. >> of the administration. >> of the administration. >> Will you pause real quick? Here's what >> Will you pause real quick? Here's what >> Will you pause real quick? Here's what was a little interesting is I I get this was a little interesting is I I get this was a little interesting is I I get this sometimes about what am I preaching? So, sometimes about what am I preaching? So, sometimes about what am I preaching? So, let's let's do this real quick. Keep let's let's do this real quick. Keep let's let's do this real quick. Keep going. going. going. >> Is not consistently a Christian tone. >> Is not consistently a Christian tone. >> Is not consistently a Christian tone. There is a tone of aggressive uncharity There is a tone of aggressive uncharity There is a tone of aggressive uncharity to people who aren't on board with the to people who aren't on board with the to people who aren't on board with the administration's policies. So, I would I administration's policies. So, I would I administration's policies. So, I would I would describe those as three areas would describe those as three areas would describe those as three areas where the administration has felt where the administration has felt where the administration has felt functionally post-Christian to me. And functionally post-Christian to me. And functionally post-Christian to me. And I'm curious what you think. I'm curious what you think. I'm curious what you think. Well, so, so on on the the first point, Well, so, so on on the the first point, Well, so, so on on the the first point, um, well, sorry, the third point, but I um, well, sorry, the third point, but I um, well, sorry, the third point, but I want to address, want to address, want to address, >> you can work backward. So on the the >> you can work backward. So on the the >> you can work backward. So on the the tone thing, this is it's it's very hard tone thing, this is it's it's very hard tone thing, this is it's it's very hard to rebut this because it's like to rebut this because it's like to rebut this because it's like fundamentally unfalsifiable because for fundamentally unfalsifiable because for fundamentally unfalsifiable because for every clip that you could show me of me every clip that you could show me of me every clip that you could show me of me or the president or some cabinet or the president or some cabinet or the president or some cabinet secretary saying something that in your secretary saying something that in your secretary saying something that in your view is uncchristian, I could show you view is uncchristian, I could show you view is uncchristian, I could show you another few clips of us doing something another few clips of us doing something another few clips of us doing something or saying something that is like very or saying something that is like very or saying something that is like very Christian. The nature of political Christian. The nature of political Christian. The nature of political communication in the era of mass media

communication in the era of mass media communication in the era of mass media is that sometimes people are going to is that sometimes people are going to is that sometimes people are going to say jokes that are taken out of context. say jokes that are taken out of context. say jokes that are taken out of context. >> Pause. >> Pause. >> Pause. I I've >> uh any jokes out of context? >> uh any jokes out of context? >> I I got a few right now. >> I I got a few right now. >> I I got a few right now. >> But I will say this is actually a really >> But I will say this is actually a really >> But I will say this is actually a really good point. Like your normal person good point. Like your normal person good point. Like your normal person doesn't understand this. One thing I doesn't understand this. One thing I doesn't understand this. One thing I will just say very briefly, there are will just say very briefly, there are will just say very briefly, there are dynamics to mass scale communication dynamics to mass scale communication dynamics to mass scale communication that no one is ever going to understand that no one is ever going to understand that no one is ever going to understand unless you've had to do it. when you're unless you've had to do it. when you're unless you've had to do it. when you're communicating to, you know, it's like if communicating to, you know, it's like if communicating to, you know, it's like if you know, I think what do we if six you know, I think what do we if six you know, I think what do we if six million people downloaded the podcast million people downloaded the podcast million people downloaded the podcast last month last month last month >> or more >> or more >> or more >> or, you know, when you're communicating >> or, you know, when you're communicating >> or, you know, when you're communicating to tens of thousands or hundreds of to tens of thousands or hundreds of to tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people, here's what you're thousands of people, here's what you're thousands of people, here's what you're going to learn really fast. I've learned going to learn really fast. I've learned going to learn really fast. I've learned this slow these many years is it doesn't this slow these many years is it doesn't this slow these many years is it doesn't matter what you say there is going to be matter what you say there is going to be matter what you say there is going to be 5% of people because of their background 5% of people because of their background 5% of people because of their background their emotional sensibilities uh their emotional sensibilities uh their emotional sensibilities uh experiences that they've had experiences that they've had experiences that they've had to take something that you said it's to take something that you said it's to take something that you said it's going to strike them in the wrong way going to strike them in the wrong way going to strike them in the wrong way and it's going to anger them and maybe and it's going to anger them and maybe and it's going to anger them and maybe hurt their feelings and listen it is hurt their feelings and listen it is hurt their feelings and listen it is impossible for that not to happen impossible for that not to happen impossible for that not to happen >> so like the analogy I'll use sometimes >> so like the analogy I'll use sometimes >> so like the analogy I'll use sometimes times is, and by the way, I'm not saying times is, and by the way, I'm not saying times is, and by the way, I'm not saying I I everything I've ever said is I I everything I've ever said is I I everything I've ever said is perfect. That's not what I'm saying, perfect. That's not what I'm saying, perfect. That's not what I'm saying, okay? But the analogy I'll use sometimes okay? But the analogy I'll use sometimes okay? But the analogy I'll use sometimes is um man, if I were to walk up to is um man, if I were to walk up to is um man, if I were to walk up to somebody and tap a normal person on the somebody and tap a normal person on the somebody and tap a normal person on the shoulder, you would just turn your head.

shoulder, you would just turn your head. shoulder, you would just turn your head. >> If I walk up to you, Carlos, and you >> If I walk up to you, Carlos, and you >> If I walk up to you, Carlos, and you have a gaping flesh wound on your have a gaping flesh wound on your have a gaping flesh wound on your shoulder and I tap you on the shoulder, shoulder and I tap you on the shoulder, shoulder and I tap you on the shoulder, you're going to freak out and you're you're going to freak out and you're you're going to freak out and you're going to get angry and you may lash going to get angry and you may lash going to get angry and you may lash back. back. back. >> Yeah, it'll hurt. When you're doing mass >> Yeah, it'll hurt. When you're doing mass >> Yeah, it'll hurt. When you're doing mass communication, like no matter what you communication, like no matter what you communication, like no matter what you say, if I'm preaching a sermon on say, if I'm preaching a sermon on say, if I'm preaching a sermon on marriage and I just read a Bible verse marriage and I just read a Bible verse marriage and I just read a Bible verse about wives submitting to your husbands, about wives submitting to your husbands, about wives submitting to your husbands, >> okay, >> okay, >> okay, >> let's say a 100,000 people listen to the >> let's say a 100,000 people listen to the >> let's say a 100,000 people listen to the sermon, there's going to be 5% of them sermon, there's going to be 5% of them sermon, there's going to be 5% of them who are in fringe cases or exception who are in fringe cases or exception who are in fringe cases or exception scenarios. They've experienced something scenarios. They've experienced something scenarios. They've experienced something very painful where just reading a Bible very painful where just reading a Bible very painful where just reading a Bible verse, it's tapping a gaping wound and verse, it's tapping a gaping wound and verse, it's tapping a gaping wound and they're like, "Ah, why did you say that? they're like, "Ah, why did you say that? they're like, "Ah, why did you say that? That hurt me." Okay, That hurt me." Okay, That hurt me." Okay, >> so this is a principle of mass >> so this is a principle of mass >> so this is a principle of mass communication and bro it's I'll just be communication and bro it's I'll just be communication and bro it's I'll just be it's literally impossible it's literally impossible it's literally impossible >> to you can't you can't do it and there's >> to you can't you can't do it and there's >> to you can't you can't do it and there's other other other >> That's right. So this is a good point >> That's right. So this is a good point >> That's right. So this is a good point but keep going. He says something but keep going. He says something but keep going. He says something important here. important here. important here. >> Sometimes people are going to make >> Sometimes people are going to make >> Sometimes people are going to make mistakes. I'm not saying I make mistakes. I'm not saying I make mistakes. I'm not saying I make mistakes. I I talk about this in the mistakes. I I talk about this in the mistakes. I I talk about this in the book a little in my book communion book a little in my book communion book a little in my book communion available where books are sold. I talk available where books are sold. I talk available where books are sold. I talk about the own mistakes that I've made as about the own mistakes that I've made as about the own mistakes that I've made as a Christian.

a Christian. a Christian. >> No, there is there is an there is an >> No, there is there is an there is an >> No, there is there is an there is an apology to childless cat ladies. We we apology to childless cat ladies. We we apology to childless cat ladies. We we don't need to get sidetracked by that. don't need to get sidetracked by that. don't need to get sidetracked by that. Go on. Go on. Go on. >> But but you know my point is like I'm >> But but you know my point is like I'm >> But but you know my point is like I'm not saying we're perfect because we're not saying we're perfect because we're not saying we're perfect because we're not. not. not. >> My point is that the tone argument is >> My point is that the tone argument is >> My point is that the tone argument is >> actually pause. So I want to say >> actually pause. So I want to say >> actually pause. So I want to say something. He acknowledges we're we're something. He acknowledges we're we're something. He acknowledges we're we're he said we're not perfect. I want to say he said we're not perfect. I want to say he said we're not perfect. I want to say he's right. Let me just concede he's right. Let me just concede he's right. Let me just concede something. There are things that something. There are things that something. There are things that sometimes uh the president will say that sometimes uh the president will say that sometimes uh the president will say that I'm like a a Christian man should never I'm like a a Christian man should never I'm like a a Christian man should never say that. say that. say that. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> Sure. >> Like mo many times there have been >> Like mo many times there have been >> Like mo many times there have been moments where I'm like that was a sin. moments where I'm like that was a sin. moments where I'm like that was a sin. >> Yeah. Yeah, even on social media, I will >> Yeah. Yeah, even on social media, I will >> Yeah. Yeah, even on social media, I will say I've seen some things some the way say I've seen some things some the way say I've seen some things some the way >> I'm going to read you one. >> I'm going to read you one. >> I'm going to read you one. >> Okay, go ahead. >> Okay, go ahead. >> Okay, go ahead. >> I'm going to read you one like Rob >> I'm going to read you one like Rob >> I'm going to read you one like Rob Reiner died. You know, his son Reiner died. You know, his son Reiner died. You know, his son purportedly stabs him to death, you purportedly stabs him to death, you purportedly stabs him to death, you know, and I'm just going to read it, you know, and I'm just going to read it, you know, and I'm just going to read it, you know. Uh, president tweets reportedly know. Uh, president tweets reportedly know. Uh, president tweets reportedly due to the anger he caused others due to the anger he caused others due to the anger he caused others through his massive unyielding and through his massive unyielding and through his massive unyielding and incurable affliction with a mind incurable affliction with a mind incurable affliction with a mind crippling disease known as Trump crippling disease known as Trump crippling disease known as Trump derangement syndrome. Like, dude, I'm derangement syndrome. Like, dude, I'm derangement syndrome. Like, dude, I'm sorry. Like, dude, you know, that's a sorry. Like, dude, you know, that's a sorry. Like, dude, you know, that's a sin. sin. sin. >> Mhm.

>> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> As a sin. So, you know, as Christians, >> As a sin. So, you know, as Christians, >> As a sin. So, you know, as Christians, we don't have don't defend things you we don't have don't defend things you we don't have don't defend things you shouldn't defend. That doesn't mean that shouldn't defend. That doesn't mean that shouldn't defend. That doesn't mean that you can't support whenever you're voting you can't support whenever you're voting you can't support whenever you're voting for somebody, you're voting for, you for somebody, you're voting for, you for somebody, you're voting for, you know, which set of policies will best know, which set of policies will best know, which set of policies will best slow societal decay. So, this doesn't slow societal decay. So, this doesn't slow societal decay. So, this doesn't mean like, oh man, they did something mean like, oh man, they did something mean like, oh man, they did something wrong. I can't support them. No, you wrong. I can't support them. No, you wrong. I can't support them. No, you can. But you also need to maintain your can. But you also need to maintain your can. But you also need to maintain your integrity and character and go, hey man, integrity and character and go, hey man, integrity and character and go, hey man, am I generally supportive and really am I generally supportive and really am I generally supportive and really thankful for a whole lot of things? Yes. thankful for a whole lot of things? Yes. thankful for a whole lot of things? Yes. That's wrong. and I don't have to defend That's wrong. and I don't have to defend That's wrong. and I don't have to defend that. So, I like that he acknowledged that. So, I like that he acknowledged that. So, I like that he acknowledged that. Let's keep going. He says that. Let's keep going. He says that. Let's keep going. He says something really interesting and we'll something really interesting and we'll something really interesting and we'll we'll shut this down. we'll shut this down. we'll shut this down. >> Some ways, I think people see what they >> Some ways, I think people see what they >> Some ways, I think people see what they want to see. want to see. want to see. >> And I also think that tonal arguments >> And I also think that tonal arguments >> And I also think that tonal arguments are ways of frankly policing workingass are ways of frankly policing workingass are ways of frankly policing workingass ways of communication and covering them ways of communication and covering them ways of communication and covering them in elite preferences. in elite preferences. in elite preferences. >> Okay. Done. Now, did you hear what he >> Okay. Done. Now, did you hear what he >> Okay. Done. Now, did you hear what he said? Mhm. said? Mhm. said? Mhm. >> He said tone said policing the tone >> He said tone said policing the tone >> He said tone said policing the tone sometimes is uh a way of essentially sometimes is uh a way of essentially sometimes is uh a way of essentially policing or opposing workingclass forms policing or opposing workingclass forms policing or opposing workingclass forms of communication. So Ros Stout it's New of communication. So Ros Stout it's New of communication. So Ros Stout it's New York Times Intelligencia. He's around York Times Intelligencia. He's around York Times Intelligencia. He's around Ivy Leaguers all the time.

Ivy Leaguers all the time. Ivy Leaguers all the time. >> There's a certain way those kind of >> There's a certain way those kind of >> There's a certain way those kind of people talk and I'll be honest. I'm a people talk and I'll be honest. I'm a people talk and I'll be honest. I'm a rural Kentucky kid who comes from a like rural Kentucky kid who comes from a like rural Kentucky kid who comes from a like a a formerly truck driving Ozark family. a a formerly truck driving Ozark family. a a formerly truck driving Ozark family. >> You say things like let's kick this pig. >> You say things like let's kick this pig. >> You say things like let's kick this pig. >> I say that's like Yeah. I don't say >> I say that's like Yeah. I don't say >> I say that's like Yeah. I don't say let's go children. I say let's kick this let's go children. I say let's kick this let's go children. I say let's kick this pig. Yes. pig. Yes. pig. Yes. >> Let us initiate the podcast today. >> Let us initiate the podcast today. >> Let us initiate the podcast today. >> So, he's not my vibe. Okay. So, now what >> So, he's not my vibe. Okay. So, now what >> So, he's not my vibe. Okay. So, now what what DA said there that he's dead on. what DA said there that he's dead on. what DA said there that he's dead on. >> He's dead on. And what I'll point out is >> He's dead on. And what I'll point out is >> He's dead on. And what I'll point out is >> You mean JD? >> You mean JD? >> You mean JD? >> JD, sorry. Well, JD said there, what >> JD, sorry. Well, JD said there, what >> JD, sorry. Well, JD said there, what I'll point out is give me someone who I'll point out is give me someone who I'll point out is give me someone who speaks in a rough way but advances net speaks in a rough way but advances net speaks in a rough way but advances net good things over somebody who speaks in good things over somebody who speaks in good things over somebody who speaks in a dignified way and advances evil. a dignified way and advances evil. a dignified way and advances evil. >> There you go. And dude, I will say to >> There you go. And dude, I will say to >> There you go. And dude, I will say to Christians can be very naive on this. Christians can be very naive on this. Christians can be very naive on this. >> Especially parents, man, like with our >> Especially parents, man, like with our >> Especially parents, man, like with our kids, we we what we don't want to do is kids, we we what we don't want to do is kids, we we what we don't want to do is evaluate everything through the lens of evaluate everything through the lens of evaluate everything through the lens of two categories. Nice people and mean two categories. Nice people and mean two categories. Nice people and mean people. people. people. >> That's where people get caught up. >> That's where people get caught up. >> That's where people get caught up. They're like, "Ah, he says stuff like They're like, "Ah, he says stuff like They're like, "Ah, he says stuff like that about Rob Reiner. He's mean and that about Rob Reiner. He's mean and that about Rob Reiner. He's mean and we're supposed to be for nice people."

we're supposed to be for nice people." we're supposed to be for nice people." No, no. There's not two categories of No, no. There's not two categories of No, no. There's not two categories of people according to the Bible. There's people according to the Bible. There's people according to the Bible. There's four categories of people who are in the four categories of people who are in the four categories of people who are in the Bible. There's nice people who do good Bible. There's nice people who do good Bible. There's nice people who do good things. There's nice people who do evil things. There's nice people who do evil things. There's nice people who do evil things. The Bible literally says that things. The Bible literally says that things. The Bible literally says that false teachers that will send you to false teachers that will send you to false teachers that will send you to hell, they will flatter you with smooth hell, they will flatter you with smooth hell, they will flatter you with smooth talk and flattery. It says there are talk and flattery. It says there are talk and flattery. It says there are nice people who appear very nice who do nice people who appear very nice who do nice people who appear very nice who do very evil things. Then there are rough very evil things. Then there are rough very evil things. Then there are rough people who do good things and there are people who do good things and there are people who do good things and there are rough people who do evil things. in rough people who do evil things. in rough people who do evil things. in general, if you zoom out, I'm not saying general, if you zoom out, I'm not saying general, if you zoom out, I'm not saying everything's perfect, but man, when I everything's perfect, but man, when I everything's perfect, but man, when I look at like what what they're advancing look at like what what they're advancing look at like what what they're advancing in general, I'm like, man, a lot of in general, I'm like, man, a lot of in general, I'm like, man, a lot of times that administration, it's like a times that administration, it's like a times that administration, it's like a rough, it's a rough kind of rough guy rough, it's a rough kind of rough guy rough, it's a rough kind of rough guy advancing net good things. And again, advancing net good things. And again, advancing net good things. And again, give me a rough guy that does net good give me a rough guy that does net good give me a rough guy that does net good over a nice man who does net evil while over a nice man who does net evil while over a nice man who does net evil while being really dignified. being really dignified. being really dignified. >> That's right. Yeah. I would say there's >> That's right. Yeah. I would say there's >> That's right. Yeah. I would say there's two things that matters if you're a two things that matters if you're a two things that matters if you're a Christian, even practically speaking. Christian, even practically speaking. Christian, even practically speaking. People wonder about does it tone matter? People wonder about does it tone matter? People wonder about does it tone matter? Can you say something to me like kind of Can you say something to me like kind of Can you say something to me like kind of kind of like a jerk? But it's true. Two kind of like a jerk? But it's true. Two kind of like a jerk? But it's true. Two things that matters. One, tone matters. things that matters. One, tone matters. things that matters. One, tone matters. Ephesians 4:15, speak truth in love.

Ephesians 4:15, speak truth in love. Ephesians 4:15, speak truth in love. >> Colossians 4:6, let your speech be >> Colossians 4:6, let your speech be >> Colossians 4:6, let your speech be gracious, seasoned with salt. It tone gracious, seasoned with salt. It tone gracious, seasoned with salt. It tone matters. And that is true. And at the matters. And that is true. And at the matters. And that is true. And at the same time, do you know what matters, same time, do you know what matters, same time, do you know what matters, too? Truth matters. That's right. Tone too? Truth matters. That's right. Tone too? Truth matters. That's right. Tone matters, truth matters. 2 Timothy 4:2 matters, truth matters. 2 Timothy 4:2 matters, truth matters. 2 Timothy 4:2 says, "Preach the word, reprove, rebuke, says, "Preach the word, reprove, rebuke, says, "Preach the word, reprove, rebuke, exort." Titus 1, Paul tells Titus to exort." Titus 1, Paul tells Titus to exort." Titus 1, Paul tells Titus to rebuke false teachers sharply and with rebuke false teachers sharply and with rebuke false teachers sharply and with all authority. all authority. all authority. >> Tone matters, truth matters. We want >> Tone matters, truth matters. We want >> Tone matters, truth matters. We want both. both. both. >> Yes. By the way, Jesus used some pretty >> Yes. By the way, Jesus used some pretty >> Yes. By the way, Jesus used some pretty rough rough dang language. Yeah, that's rough rough dang language. Yeah, that's rough rough dang language. Yeah, that's right. right. right. >> Rough rough language. So, let me close >> Rough rough language. So, let me close >> Rough rough language. So, let me close with uh every now and then, you know, with uh every now and then, you know, with uh every now and then, you know, I'll uh you know, I kind what I what I I'll uh you know, I kind what I what I I'll uh you know, I kind what I what I kind of try to do when I'm preaching is kind of try to do when I'm preaching is kind of try to do when I'm preaching is I kind of try to talk like just a normal I kind of try to talk like just a normal I kind of try to talk like just a normal guy. That's kind of guy I grew up with. guy. That's kind of guy I grew up with. guy. That's kind of guy I grew up with. Kind of my family I came from, you know, Kind of my family I came from, you know, Kind of my family I came from, you know, normal, little gritty, little bluecollar normal, little gritty, little bluecollar normal, little gritty, little bluecollar kind of thing without sinning. Uh, I kind of thing without sinning. Uh, I kind of thing without sinning. Uh, I will say there was another pastor that will say there was another pastor that will say there was another pastor that is a hero of mine that was constantly is a hero of mine that was constantly is a hero of mine that was constantly accused of uh, you know, bad humor and accused of uh, you know, bad humor and accused of uh, you know, bad humor and vulgar language. It was Charles vulgar language. It was Charles vulgar language. It was Charles Spurgeon.

Spurgeon. Spurgeon. >> This is a fun little homework >> This is a fun little homework >> This is a fun little homework assignment. assignment. assignment. >> It's not who I thought you were going to >> It's not who I thought you were going to >> It's not who I thought you were going to say, but say, but say, but >> Spurgeon. Who you think? Martin Luther. >> Spurgeon. Who you think? Martin Luther. >> Spurgeon. Who you think? Martin Luther. Okay. Charles Spurgeon. So if it's a fun Okay. Charles Spurgeon. So if it's a fun Okay. Charles Spurgeon. So if it's a fun little homework assignment if you go little homework assignment if you go little homework assignment if you go Google like Charles Spurgeon vulgar Google like Charles Spurgeon vulgar Google like Charles Spurgeon vulgar language there is like he was getting language there is like he was getting language there is like he was getting newspaper articles written about him newspaper articles written about him newspaper articles written about him constantly about this you know constantly about this you know constantly about this you know >> he was heavily criticized by the media >> he was heavily criticized by the media >> he was heavily criticized by the media >> heavily heavily criticized heavily for >> heavily heavily criticized heavily for >> heavily heavily criticized heavily for his language and his humor. Now, dude, I his language and his humor. Now, dude, I his language and his humor. Now, dude, I don't I'm not a I'm not a profanity guy. don't I'm not a I'm not a profanity guy. don't I'm not a I'm not a profanity guy. That's I'm not talking about telling That's I'm not talking about telling That's I'm not talking about telling dirty jokes. That's not what I'm talking dirty jokes. That's not what I'm talking dirty jokes. That's not what I'm talking about. about. about. >> But it's like, you know, just I don't >> But it's like, you know, just I don't >> But it's like, you know, just I don't know. Just s word of normal gritty know. Just s word of normal gritty know. Just s word of normal gritty language. language. language. >> And by the way, vulgar back in the day, >> And by the way, vulgar back in the day, >> And by the way, vulgar back in the day, that word just means like of the people, that word just means like of the people, that word just means like of the people, like normal people. It doesn't like normal people. It doesn't like normal people. It doesn't necessarily mean that it was perverted necessarily mean that it was perverted necessarily mean that it was perverted necessarily. necessarily. necessarily. >> Okay. Yeah, it's good to know. There you >> Okay. Yeah, it's good to know. There you >> Okay. Yeah, it's good to know. There you go. go. go. >> I'm going to read you two Charles >> I'm going to read you two Charles >> I'm going to read you two Charles Spurgeon quotes that make make him one Spurgeon quotes that make make him one Spurgeon quotes that make make him one of my favorite preachers. Okay. The of my favorite preachers. Okay. The of my favorite preachers. Okay. The first one is Charles Spurgeon on first one is Charles Spurgeon on first one is Charles Spurgeon on effeminate pastors. Okay. This is effeminate pastors. Okay. This is effeminate pastors. Okay. This is Charles Spurgeon. Charles Spurgeon. Charles Spurgeon. There are silly young ladies who are in There are silly young ladies who are in There are silly young ladies who are in raptures with a dear young man whose raptures with a dear young man whose raptures with a dear young man whose main thought is his precious person. main thought is his precious person. main thought is his precious person. These, it is to be hoped, are becoming These, it is to be hoped, are becoming These, it is to be hoped, are becoming fewer every day. But as for sensible fewer every day. But as for sensible fewer every day. But as for sensible men, and especially the sturdy workmen men, and especially the sturdy workmen men, and especially the sturdy workmen of our great cities, they utterly abhore of our great cities, they utterly abhore of our great cities, they utterly abhore fery in a ministry. I don't know what fery in a ministry. I don't know what fery in a ministry. I don't know what that means. I got a feeling it might that means. I got a feeling it might that means. I got a feeling it might mean something. I don't. But that's what mean something. I don't. But that's what mean something. I don't. But that's what he said. Huh.

he said. Huh. he said. Huh. >> Interesting. >> Interesting. >> Interesting. >> Wherever you see a affectation, you find >> Wherever you see a affectation, you find >> Wherever you see a affectation, you find it once a barrier between that man and it once a barrier between that man and it once a barrier between that man and the common sense multitude. Basically the common sense multitude. Basically the common sense multitude. Basically what he's saying is, "Hey man, preach what he's saying is, "Hey man, preach what he's saying is, "Hey man, preach like normal bluecollar dudes are going like normal bluecollar dudes are going like normal bluecollar dudes are going to understand." That's really what he's to understand." That's really what he's to understand." That's really what he's saying. Few ears are as delighted. Few saying. Few ears are as delighted. Few saying. Few ears are as delighted. Few ears are delighted with the voices of ears are delighted with the voices of ears are delighted with the voices of peacocks. It is a pity that we cannot peacocks. It is a pity that we cannot peacocks. It is a pity that we cannot persuade all ministers to be men, for it persuade all ministers to be men, for it persuade all ministers to be men, for it is hard to see how otherwise they will is hard to see how otherwise they will is hard to see how otherwise they will be truly men of God. It is equally to be be truly men of God. It is equally to be be truly men of God. It is equally to be deplored that we cannot induce preachers deplored that we cannot induce preachers deplored that we cannot induce preachers to speak and gesticulate, there's a word to speak and gesticulate, there's a word to speak and gesticulate, there's a word for you, like other sensible persons, for you, like other sensible persons, for you, like other sensible persons, for it is impossible that they should for it is impossible that they should for it is impossible that they should grasp the masses until they do. All grasp the masses until they do. All grasp the masses until they do. All foreign matters of attitude, tone, or foreign matters of attitude, tone, or foreign matters of attitude, tone, or dress are barricades between us and the dress are barricades between us and the dress are barricades between us and the people. We must talk like men if we people. We must talk like men if we people. We must talk like men if we would win men. Charles Persian number would win men. Charles Persian number would win men. Charles Persian number one. Now, here's here's the second one. one. Now, here's here's the second one. one. Now, here's here's the second one. in response to some of the newspaper in response to some of the newspaper in response to some of the newspaper articles and this is to JD Vance's point articles and this is to JD Vance's point articles and this is to JD Vance's point of like man sometimes sort of of like man sometimes sort of of like man sometimes sort of intelligencia intelligencia intelligencia well you know well you know well you know >> stop being rough and abrasive and you >> stop being rough and abrasive and you >> stop being rough and abrasive and you know sort of thing be dignified while know sort of thing be dignified while know sort of thing be dignified while you advance evil things and we'll like you advance evil things and we'll like you advance evil things and we'll like you more that's kind of can be the vibe you more that's kind of can be the vibe you more that's kind of can be the vibe >> so Charles Birds is getting lit up for >> so Charles Birds is getting lit up for >> so Charles Birds is getting lit up for his sort of bluecollar gritty language his sort of bluecollar gritty language his sort of bluecollar gritty language by newspapers this is how he responds I by newspapers this is how he responds I by newspapers this is how he responds I am perhaps vulgar but it is not am perhaps vulgar but it is not am perhaps vulgar but it is not intentional save that I must and I will intentional save that I must and I will intentional save that I must and I will make the people listen. Now I'm going to make the people listen. Now I'm going to make the people listen. Now I'm going to keep the quote he's gone. I feel this in keep the quote he's gone. I feel this in keep the quote he's gone. I feel this in my bones. Like when I read this I was

my bones. Like when I read this I was my bones. Like when I read this I was like that he's putting words to exactly like that he's putting words to exactly like that he's putting words to exactly how I feel as a preacher. My firm how I feel as a preacher. My firm how I feel as a preacher. My firm conviction is that we have had quite conviction is that we have had quite conviction is that we have had quite enough polite preachers and many require enough polite preachers and many require enough polite preachers and many require a change. God has owned me among the a change. God has owned me among the a change. God has owned me among the most degraded and offcasts. Let others most degraded and offcasts. Let others most degraded and offcasts. Let others serve their class. These are mine and to serve their class. These are mine and to serve their class. These are mine and to them I must keep. them I must keep. them I must keep. >> I love it. >> I love it. >> I love it. >> He had a specific race set before him. >> He had a specific race set before him. >> He had a specific race set before him. >> He had he ran his race, my friend. >> He had he ran his race, my friend. >> He had he ran his race, my friend. >> And he had to run it. >> And he had to run it. >> And he had to run it. >> So, let me put a bow on it like this. >> So, let me put a bow on it like this. >> So, let me put a bow on it like this. What doubth it does is he's like your What doubth it does is he's like your What doubth it does is he's like your tone and you know you you chopping, you tone and you know you you chopping, you tone and you know you you chopping, you know, USA ID. These are post-Christian know, USA ID. These are post-Christian know, USA ID. These are post-Christian things. And dude, I just want to keep in things. And dude, I just want to keep in things. And dude, I just want to keep in a blunt, straightforward way reminding a blunt, straightforward way reminding a blunt, straightforward way reminding us. Okay, you're saying that's us. Okay, you're saying that's us. Okay, you're saying that's post-Christian. Let me tell you, here's post-Christian. Let me tell you, here's post-Christian. Let me tell you, here's what's post-Christian. what's post-Christian. what's post-Christian. uh a uh a political movement that uh a uh a political movement that uh a uh a political movement that redefineses marriage, erases gender, redefineses marriage, erases gender, redefineses marriage, erases gender, mutilates children, passes laws that mutilates children, passes laws that mutilates children, passes laws that take children from Christian families take children from Christian families take children from Christian families who will not affirm their child's quote who will not affirm their child's quote who will not affirm their child's quote unquote gender, cheer and max boost mass unquote gender, cheer and max boost mass unquote gender, cheer and max boost mass infant slaughter, open borders, jail infant slaughter, open borders, jail infant slaughter, open borders, jail abortion protesters praying outside of abortion protesters praying outside of abortion protesters praying outside of clinics, sprint towards Islamic clinics, sprint towards Islamic clinics, sprint towards Islamic socialism, and then use the government socialism, and then use the government socialism, and then use the government school system to indoctrinate school system to indoctrinate school system to indoctrinate everybody's kids into believing those everybody's kids into believing those everybody's kids into believing those things. My friends, that's things. My friends, that's things. My friends, that's post-Christian post-Christian post-Christian straightforward way. There you go.

straightforward way. There you go. straightforward way. There you go. >> Thank you, Pastor Josh. Would you pray >> Thank you, Pastor Josh. Would you pray >> Thank you, Pastor Josh. Would you pray for us? for us? for us? >> Yeah, sure. >> Yeah, sure. >> Yeah, sure. Uh Lord, thank you. Um thank you for a Uh Lord, thank you. Um thank you for a Uh Lord, thank you. Um thank you for a chance to open up the word and uh look chance to open up the word and uh look chance to open up the word and uh look at both the word and the world. And at both the word and the world. And at both the word and the world. And father, would you make us men and women father, would you make us men and women father, would you make us men and women with clear vision to see the world with clear vision to see the world with clear vision to see the world through the lens of the word. God, would through the lens of the word. God, would through the lens of the word. God, would you uh make us good Christian men and you uh make us good Christian men and you uh make us good Christian men and women? Uh would you make us good women? Uh would you make us good women? Uh would you make us good familymen, churchmen, statesmen, and familymen, churchmen, statesmen, and familymen, churchmen, statesmen, and will we do that as we bend our knee to will we do that as we bend our knee to will we do that as we bend our knee to Jesus Christ? Father, thank you for the Jesus Christ? Father, thank you for the Jesus Christ? Father, thank you for the great harvest of salvation great harvest of salvation great harvest of salvation that we got to see uh Lake Point this that we got to see uh Lake Point this that we got to see uh Lake Point this week. And Lord, uh I pray that in the week. And Lord, uh I pray that in the week. And Lord, uh I pray that in the next three weeks, you would do next three weeks, you would do next three weeks, you would do exceedingly abundantly more than we exceedingly abundantly more than we exceedingly abundantly more than we could ever ask or imagine. And I pray could ever ask or imagine. And I pray could ever ask or imagine. And I pray that you do it in some of the lives of that you do it in some of the lives of that you do it in some of the lives of the people who are listening right now. the people who are listening right now. the people who are listening right now. To God be the glory in Jesus name. Amen. To God be the glory in Jesus name. Amen. To God be the glory in Jesus name. Amen. >> Amen. Lift free brother.