There's a Jesus-Curious Gen Zer Who Needs You to Reach Out (Ruslan KD Interview Snippet)

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are perplexed by this generation, Gen Z. are perplexed by this generation, Gen Z. Like let's I'll put myself in the Like let's I'll put myself in the Like let's I'll put myself in the position. Okay, as an older person, a position. Okay, as an older person, a position. Okay, as an older person, a boomer, uh what do I need to know about boomer, uh what do I need to know about boomer, uh what do I need to know about Gen Z, about what I can do to help them? Gen Z, about what I can do to help them? Gen Z, about what I can do to help them? >> Yeah, I think for starters, Gen Z is the >> Yeah, I think for starters, Gen Z is the >> Yeah, I think for starters, Gen Z is the most Jesus curious generation as well. most Jesus curious generation as well. most Jesus curious generation as well. >> say that? >> say that? >> say that? >> well, the data shows that. They >> well, the data shows that. They >> well, the data shows that. They almost half of Gen Z is Jesus curious almost half of Gen Z is Jesus curious almost half of Gen Z is Jesus curious and Jesus open. It doesn't mean they're and Jesus open. It doesn't mean they're and Jesus open. It doesn't mean they're Christian. Christian. Christian. >> Would you contrast that to Gen X, which >> Would you contrast that to Gen X, which >> Would you contrast that to Gen X, which would be different? would be different? would be different? >> Yeah, Gen X is way more secular. >> Yeah, Gen X is way more secular. >> Yeah, Gen X is way more secular. >> like they kind of feel like they got >> like they kind of feel like they got >> like they kind of feel like they got left out the boomers and then it went to left out the boomers and then it went to left out the boomers and then it went to Gen Z and like they were like, "Hey, Gen Z and like they were like, "Hey, Gen Z and like they were like, "Hey, what about us?" what about us?" what about us?" >> Well, you know, the interesting thing I >> Well, you know, the interesting thing I >> Well, you know, the interesting thing I went I went down the the I went deep on went I went down the the I went deep on went I went down the the I went deep on this and I found out that Gen Z, oddly this and I found out that Gen Z, oddly this and I found out that Gen Z, oddly enough, is the least sexually active enough, is the least sexually active enough, is the least sexually active generation. generation. generation. >> Isn't that interesting? >> Isn't that interesting? >> Isn't that interesting? >> Yeah, yeah, least sexually You know, you >> Yeah, yeah, least sexually You know, you >> Yeah, yeah, least sexually You know, you know, the most sexually active know, the most sexually active know, the most sexually active generation was Gen Xers and boomers for generation was Gen Xers and boomers for generation was Gen Xers and boomers for all the free love stuff and the hippy all the free love stuff and the hippy all the free love stuff and the hippy stuff and you know that. So they're stuff and you know that. So they're stuff and you know that. So they're they're the least sexually active. they're the least sexually active. they're the least sexually active. They're the most open to Jesus. They're They're the most open to Jesus. They're They're the most open to Jesus. They're the most isolated and alone, but they're the most isolated and alone, but they're the most isolated and alone, but they're most interconnected. So they're like a most interconnected. So they're like a most interconnected. So they're like a walking talking paradox in real time.

walking talking paradox in real time. walking talking paradox in real time. They're very confused. They're very They're very confused. They're very They're very confused. They're very anxious. They're very stressed out. And anxious. They're very stressed out. And anxious. They're very stressed out. And I think what is difficult in terms of I think what is difficult in terms of I think what is difficult in terms of dealing with them is they start thinking dealing with them is they start thinking dealing with them is they start thinking that their struggles are unique to them. that their struggles are unique to them. that their struggles are unique to them. And they forget that every generation And they forget that every generation And they forget that every generation has had a unique struggle. And so you has had a unique struggle. And so you has had a unique struggle. And so you you you think of the millennials. I I you you think of the millennials. I I you you think of the millennials. I I got married in 2008 right as the housing got married in 2008 right as the housing got married in 2008 right as the housing market and the economy fell apart. And market and the economy fell apart. And market and the economy fell apart. And it was very difficult just finding a it was very difficult just finding a it was very difficult just finding a part-time job. So every generation has part-time job. So every generation has part-time job. So every generation has unique challenges. They're going to deal unique challenges. They're going to deal unique challenges. They're going to deal with a bit more with a bit more with a bit more inflation unfortunately and all the inflation unfortunately and all the inflation unfortunately and all the supply chain issues with COVID. They're supply chain issues with COVID. They're supply chain issues with COVID. They're you know senior junior years of high you know senior junior years of high you know senior junior years of high school, freshman years of college they school, freshman years of college they school, freshman years of college they were locked down. So they so they feel were locked down. So they so they feel were locked down. So they so they feel like they were robbed of some stuff and like they were robbed of some stuff and like they were robbed of some stuff and they were they were they were considering that you know I think we considering that you know I think we considering that you know I think we locked down too hard and overdid it. And locked down too hard and overdid it. And locked down too hard and overdid it. And so there's a lot of frustration and so there's a lot of frustration and so there's a lot of frustration and disorientation and I think they're also disorientation and I think they're also disorientation and I think they're also not the most equipped with not the most equipped with not the most equipped with processing information well. So they're processing information well. So they're processing information well. So they're very onto the next thing. So right now very onto the next thing. So right now very onto the next thing. So right now oh what you know Israel bad. So now oh what you know Israel bad. So now oh what you know Israel bad. So now they're on that train. Then you know they're on that train. Then you know they're on that train. Then you know before that it was BLM and police are before that it was BLM and police are before that it was BLM and police are bad. And before that you know so it's bad. And before that you know so it's bad. And before that you know so it's like they they they kind of move on from like they they they kind of move on from like they they they kind of move on from thing to thing and they and they love thing to thing and they and they love thing to thing and they and they love they want to change the world but they they want to change the world but they they want to change the world but they don't want to change their world. So don't want to change their world. So don't want to change their world. So they're not thinking about what what's they're not thinking about what what's they're not thinking about what what's in front of me right now that I can in front of me right now that I can in front of me right now that I can influence. They want to think about influence. They want to think about influence. They want to think about what's happening 3,000 miles away. They what's happening 3,000 miles away. They what's happening 3,000 miles away. They want to think about this action action want to think about this action action want to think about this action action over here. And so they end up kind of over here. And so they end up kind of over here. And so they end up kind of missing what's right in front of them.

missing what's right in front of them. missing what's right in front of them. And so what I'm trying to do is say hey And so what I'm trying to do is say hey And so what I'm trying to do is say hey hey guys like there's a lot of stuff you hey guys like there's a lot of stuff you hey guys like there's a lot of stuff you can't control. We can't the family we can't control. We can't the family we can't control. We can't the family we were born into, we were the the year we were born into, we were the the year we were born into, we were the the year we were born, where we live. We can't were born, where we live. We can't were born, where we live. We can't control some but you can control what's control some but you can control what's control some but you can control what's in front of you. in front of you. in front of you. Let's work on what we control and doing Let's work on what we control and doing Let's work on what we control and doing those inputs. And I think they need like those inputs. And I think they need like those inputs. And I think they need like every Gen Z person needs a good boomer every Gen Z person needs a good boomer every Gen Z person needs a good boomer in their life. They need someone in in their life. They need someone in in their life. They need someone in their life to remind them that their life to remind them that their life to remind them that you're not that unique. you're not that unique. you're not that unique. You're not that special. And let me tell You're not that special. And let me tell You're not that special. And let me tell you something. You think it's hard to you something. You think it's hard to you something. You think it's hard to buy a house? How about when interest buy a house? How about when interest buy a house? How about when interest rates were 15% or whatever they were in rates were 15% or whatever they were in rates were 15% or whatever they were in the 70s and the 80s? Right? You You the 70s and the 80s? Right? You You the 70s and the 80s? Right? You You think it's difficult now? How about when think it's difficult now? How about when think it's difficult now? How about when we had the gas shortage in the 70s and we had the gas shortage in the 70s and we had the gas shortage in the 70s and all these things? Like we don't remember all these things? Like we don't remember all these things? Like we don't remember these things as millennials cuz we these things as millennials cuz we these things as millennials cuz we didn't live through these things, but didn't live through these things, but didn't live through these things, but you guys have gone through some serious you guys have gone through some serious you guys have gone through some serious things wars and things wars and things wars and crazy events. And so I think they need crazy events. And so I think they need crazy events. And so I think they need someone that's that's older, that's someone that's that's older, that's someone that's that's older, that's that's a boomer, that can sit there and that's a boomer, that can sit there and that's a boomer, that can sit there and be like, "You're not that unique." Like be like, "You're not that unique." Like be like, "You're not that unique." Like there's always uncertainty. There's there's always uncertainty. There's there's always uncertainty. There's always chaos. That's actually the always chaos. That's actually the always chaos. That's actually the natural state of the world. It's chaos.

natural state of the world. It's chaos. natural state of the world. It's chaos. Like you're in a westernized American Like you're in a westernized American Like you're in a westernized American bubble where everything is orderly and bubble where everything is orderly and bubble where everything is orderly and there's laws. No, no, no, the natural there's laws. No, no, no, the natural there's laws. No, no, no, the natural state of the world is chaos. And so I state of the world is chaos. And so I state of the world is chaos. And so I I'm always encouraging a lot of the Gen I'm always encouraging a lot of the Gen I'm always encouraging a lot of the Gen Z. Like get get you a good boomer in Z. Like get get you a good boomer in Z. Like get get you a good boomer in your life. Get someone that you can just your life. Get someone that you can just your life. Get someone that you can just sit with and and talk to. sit with and and talk to. sit with and and talk to. >> I love that. >> I love that. >> I love that. >> You know, >> You know, >> You know, when I first came to Christ, when I first came to Christ, when I first came to Christ, I never had a father figure or for that I never had a father figure or for that I never had a father figure or for that matter a mother figure. So when I became matter a mother figure. So when I became matter a mother figure. So when I became a believer, I I wanted to meet godly a believer, I I wanted to meet godly a believer, I I wanted to meet godly older people. And it's funny, I didn't older people. And it's funny, I didn't older people. And it's funny, I didn't hang around people my age, but I like to hang around people my age, but I like to hang around people my age, but I like to hang around older people more cuz I hang around older people more cuz I hang around older people more cuz I thought I I have to figure these things thought I I have to figure these things thought I I have to figure these things out. I don't even know how to function out. I don't even know how to function out. I don't even know how to function really in a practical way. Pastor Chuck really in a practical way. Pastor Chuck really in a practical way. Pastor Chuck Smith was a father figure for me. Smith was a father figure for me. Smith was a father figure for me. Later I had the privilege of getting to Later I had the privilege of getting to Later I had the privilege of getting to know Billy Graham. know Billy Graham. know Billy Graham. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> You know, a father type figure. Others >> You know, a father type figure. Others >> You know, a father type figure. Others in my life that were very important, in my life that were very important, in my life that were very important, other godly women too that I could talk other godly women too that I could talk other godly women too that I could talk to and ask to and ask to and ask Chuck had a wife. She They're both in Chuck had a wife. She They're both in Chuck had a wife. She They're both in heaven now, but her name is Kay. I'd heaven now, but her name is Kay. I'd heaven now, but her name is Kay. I'd talk to her about things. And I had my talk to her about things. And I had my talk to her about things. And I had my aunt, my mother's sister who helped me a aunt, my mother's sister who helped me a aunt, my mother's sister who helped me a lot, but it's so important and it's so lot, but it's so important and it's so lot, but it's so important and it's so great for the older folks to have a great for the older folks to have a great for the older folks to have a place to share the things they've place to share the things they've place to share the things they've learned. And I've also converted to learned. And I've also converted to learned. And I've also converted to older believers and new believers. Older older believers and new believers. Older older believers and new believers. Older believers need new believers in their believers need new believers in their believers need new believers in their life to energize them and new believers life to energize them and new believers life to energize them and new believers need older believers in their life to need older believers in their life to need older believers in their life to stabilize them.

stabilize them. stabilize them. >> Yeah, that's good. >> Yeah, that's good. >> Yeah, that's good. >> So, it's the kind of the same principle >> So, it's the kind of the same principle >> So, it's the kind of the same principle but over in the spiritual world a little but over in the spiritual world a little but over in the spiritual world a little more. more. more. >> How how old were you in your early 20s >> How how old were you in your early 20s >> How how old were you in your early 20s as you're coming to faith? Teens, early as you're coming to faith? Teens, early as you're coming to faith? Teens, early 20s. And how old was Chuck at that time? 20s. And how old was Chuck at that time? 20s. And how old was Chuck at that time? >> Oh my, good question. I was Well, I was >> Oh my, good question. I was Well, I was >> Oh my, good question. I was Well, I was I came to Christ at 17. I started to get I came to Christ at 17. I started to get I came to Christ at 17. I started to get to know him at 18. He would have been in to know him at 18. He would have been in to know him at 18. He would have been in his early 40s at that point. his early 40s at that point. his early 40s at that point. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> 40s sounds young to me. Uh-huh. >> 40s sounds young to me. Uh-huh. >> 40s sounds young to me. Uh-huh. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> But I But he seemed so much older. >> But I But he seemed so much older. >> But I But he seemed so much older. >> And he was already married with a family >> And he was already married with a family >> And he was already married with a family and and and >> and had kids and >> and had kids and >> and had kids and >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> And so, he was, you know, >> And so, he was, you know, >> And so, he was, you know, I I learned kind of a work ethic from I I learned kind of a work ethic from I I learned kind of a work ethic from Chuck, too. Cuz I I had to learn how to Chuck, too. Cuz I I had to learn how to Chuck, too. Cuz I I had to learn how to provide for myself, to take care of provide for myself, to take care of provide for myself, to take care of myself cuz sometimes my mom wouldn't myself cuz sometimes my mom wouldn't myself cuz sometimes my mom wouldn't come home at night. So, I'd scrounge come home at night. So, I'd scrounge come home at night. So, I'd scrounge money up and defeat myself, get myself money up and defeat myself, get myself money up and defeat myself, get myself ready for school, etc. So, you know, ready for school, etc. So, you know, ready for school, etc. So, you know, >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And as I think he's used your upbringing >> And as I think he's used your upbringing >> And as I think he's used your upbringing as well. as well. as well. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And you know, he can bring beauty out of >> And you know, he can bring beauty out of >> And you know, he can bring beauty out of ashes as the Bible says it and even ashes as the Bible says it and even ashes as the Bible says it and even cause all things to work together for cause all things to work together for cause all things to work together for good uh for his glory. So, good uh for his glory. So, good uh for his glory. So, >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But but looking for advice from older >> But but looking for advice from older >> But but looking for advice from older people and I would always ask them lots people and I would always ask them lots people and I would always ask them lots of questions. But older folks can learn of questions. But older folks can learn of questions. But older folks can learn from younger people, too. Don't you from younger people, too. Don't you from younger people, too. Don't you think? think? think? >> Absolutely. And I think for for >> Absolutely. And I think for for >> Absolutely. And I think for for starters, older folks need to know that starters, older folks need to know that starters, older folks need to know that you don't need to be intimidated by you don't need to be intimidated by you don't need to be intimidated by these guys. these guys. these guys. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> They they they they they they come off >> They they they they they they come off >> They they they they they they come off stand offish, they're too cool for stand offish, they're too cool for stand offish, they're too cool for school. But the moment you spend a school. But the moment you spend a school. But the moment you spend a little bit of time and those facades little bit of time and those facades little bit of time and those facades come down. come down. come down. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> They they they want to be known. >> They they they want to be known. >> They they they want to be known. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> They want to be known. They they want to >> They want to be known. They they want to >> They want to be known. They they want to they want to have time. A lot of these they want to have time. A lot of these they want to have time. A lot of these folks, they just want time. They don't folks, they just want time. They don't folks, they just want time. They don't They don't need you to have the house They don't need you to have the house They don't need you to have the house perfect. perfect. perfect. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> They don't need you to make a fancy >> They don't need you to make a fancy >> They don't need you to make a fancy dinner. dinner. dinner. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Just open up your home. And and and we >> Just open up your home. And and and we >> Just open up your home. And and and we have, you know, an influx right now of have, you know, an influx right now of have, you know, an influx right now of Gen Z coming to faith, especially young Gen Z coming to faith, especially young Gen Z coming to faith, especially young young Gen Z men that are Gen Z that are young Gen Z men that are Gen Z that are young Gen Z men that are Gen Z that are coming to faith. coming to faith. coming to faith. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Um swarming back to churches. >> Um swarming back to churches. >> Um swarming back to churches. >> Is that still happening? >> Is that still happening? >> Is that still happening? >> I think so. I mean, at our churches is a >> I think so. I mean, at our churches is a >> I think so. I mean, at our churches is a ton of men. I there's women too, but I ton of men. I there's women too, but I ton of men. I there's women too, but I see a lot of men. see a lot of men. see a lot of men. >> So still is it more young Gen Z men >> So still is it more young Gen Z men >> So still is it more young Gen Z men young men than young women? young men than young women? young men than young women? >> the data is showing. That's what the >> the data is showing. That's what the >> the data is showing. That's what the data is showing. data is showing. data is showing. >> that, but I wonder if it shifted a >> that, but I wonder if it shifted a >> that, but I wonder if it shifted a little or not. I don't know. little or not. I don't know. little or not. I don't know. >> Yeah, I I would say on a ground level >> Yeah, I I would say on a ground level >> Yeah, I I would say on a ground level I'm seeing I'm seeing I'm seeing 55 45. 55% men, 45% women. Um 55 45. 55% men, 45% women. Um 55 45. 55% men, 45% women. Um >> Cuz in the past it was more it seemed >> Cuz in the past it was more it seemed >> Cuz in the past it was more it seemed like women would always lead the way in like women would always lead the way in like women would always lead the way in all these things.

all these things. all these things. >> Yeah, it's I think this is >> Yeah, it's I think this is >> Yeah, it's I think this is >> shift. >> shift. >> shift. >> it's a very unusual shift. Um and so I >> it's a very unusual shift. Um and so I >> it's a very unusual shift. Um and so I think these these folks just want think these these folks just want think these these folks just want relationship. They they want to be relationship. They they want to be relationship. They they want to be around uh more is caught than taught. A- around uh more is caught than taught. A- around uh more is caught than taught. A- and and you don't got to get the house and and you don't got to get the house and and you don't got to get the house perfect. You don't got to make a perfect perfect. You don't got to make a perfect perfect. You don't got to make a perfect meal for them. Just invite them over meal for them. Just invite them over meal for them. Just invite them over when you're doing your hard work. Invite when you're doing your hard work. Invite when you're doing your hard work. Invite them over when you're running errands. them over when you're running errands. them over when you're running errands. Invite them over to take them on a walk. Invite them over to take them on a walk. Invite them over to take them on a walk. Like they appreciate those simple things Like they appreciate those simple things Like they appreciate those simple things and I think it's the proximity that that and I think it's the proximity that that and I think it's the proximity that that matters. matters. matters. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> And and I would I would bet that in the >> And and I would I would bet that in the >> And and I would I would bet that in the same way, you know, Pastor Chuck wasn't same way, you know, Pastor Chuck wasn't same way, you know, Pastor Chuck wasn't intimidated by a bunch of young hippies intimidated by a bunch of young hippies intimidated by a bunch of young hippies and all these folks around, and all these folks around, and all these folks around, >> I would say that we need some of that >> I would say that we need some of that >> I would say that we need some of that fearlessness from the boomers to say, fearlessness from the boomers to say, fearlessness from the boomers to say, "Well, I'm not afraid of you guys." Like "Well, I'm not afraid of you guys." Like "Well, I'm not afraid of you guys." Like whatever. Like okay, so you you you you whatever. Like okay, so you you you you whatever. Like okay, so you you you you got Tik Tok brain, you know, you got a got Tik Tok brain, you know, you got a got Tik Tok brain, you know, you got a short attention span. Okay, come over. short attention span. Okay, come over. short attention span. Okay, come over. Come over. And so now we have these Come over. And so now we have these Come over. And so now we have these young folks and you got boomers who have young folks and you got boomers who have young folks and you got boomers who have homes and spaces for them to gather. homes and spaces for them to gather. homes and spaces for them to gather. That's another thing is like the death That's another thing is like the death That's another thing is like the death of the third space where what is the of the third space where what is the of the third space where what is the third space in between home and school? third space in between home and school? third space in between home and school? A lot of them are coming from A lot of them are coming from A lot of them are coming from dysfunctional homes, so they don't want dysfunctional homes, so they don't want dysfunctional homes, so they don't want to be at home. to be at home. to be at home. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> And so opening up the home to just say, >> And so opening up the home to just say, >> And so opening up the home to just say, "Come on over. Come hang out."

"Come on over. Come hang out." "Come on over. Come hang out." >> that. So that's something anybody can >> that. So that's something anybody can >> that. So that's something anybody can do. Any like Christian listening to this do. Any like Christian listening to this do. Any like Christian listening to this could open their home and when they have dinner, they can and and when they have dinner, they can and just say, "Hey, let's hang out." Someone just say, "Hey, let's hang out." Someone just say, "Hey, let's hang out." Someone did that for me after I became a did that for me after I became a did that for me after I became a Christian. A guy named Mark. Uh said, Christian. A guy named Mark. Uh said, Christian. A guy named Mark. Uh said, "Hey, um come over to my house for "Hey, um come over to my house for "Hey, um come over to my house for dinner." And I'd never been with a dinner." And I'd never been with a dinner." And I'd never been with a Christian family before. I'd never said Christian family before. I'd never said Christian family before. I'd never said grace before a meal. And so we had the grace before a meal. And so we had the grace before a meal. And so we had the meal and then afterwards we had a little meal and then afterwards we had a little meal and then afterwards we had a little Bible study. We'd talk about the Bible. Bible study. We'd talk about the Bible. Bible study. We'd talk about the Bible. And it was just like revelatory to me. And it was just like revelatory to me. And it was just like revelatory to me. This is what I'd been looking for. This This is what I'd been looking for. This This is what I'd been looking for. This is what I'd been wanting. And so I came is what I'd been wanting. And so I came is what I'd been wanting. And so I came to Christ during a spiritual awakening. to Christ during a spiritual awakening. to Christ during a spiritual awakening. We've talked about it a lot, the Jesus We've talked about it a lot, the Jesus We've talked about it a lot, the Jesus Revolution. They made a movie out of it. Revolution. They made a movie out of it. Revolution. They made a movie out of it. Do you think or you've seen signs of Do you think or you've seen signs of Do you think or you've seen signs of what could be another revival among Gen what could be another revival among Gen what could be another revival among Gen Z Z Z right now? right now? right now? >> I am on the ground in terms of our >> I am on the ground in terms of our >> I am on the ground in terms of our church has doubled. You've met my church has doubled. You've met my church has doubled. You've met my pastor, Pastor Jeff so within the last pastor, Pastor Jeff so within the last pastor, Pastor Jeff so within the last 18 months our church has doubled in 18 months our church has doubled in 18 months our church has doubled in size. I'm I just spoke at College Ave size. I'm I just spoke at College Ave size. I'm I just spoke at College Ave Church. They've doubled. And so I'm Church. They've doubled. And so I'm Church. They've doubled. And so I'm hearing a lot of church doubling, hearing a lot of church doubling, hearing a lot of church doubling, tripling really quickly. So I I I do tripling really quickly. So I I I do tripling really quickly. So I I I do think there seems to be a shift think there seems to be a shift think there seems to be a shift happening and I think that that is a happening and I think that that is a happening and I think that that is a beautiful thing.

beautiful thing. beautiful thing. >> Do you can you identify cuz you travel >> Do you can you identify cuz you travel >> Do you can you identify cuz you travel around you speak in different churches around you speak in different churches around you speak in different churches like I've noticed this type of church is like I've noticed this type of church is like I've noticed this type of church is doubling and tripling and this other doubling and tripling and this other doubling and tripling and this other type of church isn't. type of church isn't. type of church isn't. >> Well, that's a great question. Okay, so >> Well, that's a great question. Okay, so >> Well, that's a great question. Okay, so I would say that church I would say that church I would say that church this is what makes Gen Z unique is they this is what makes Gen Z unique is they this is what makes Gen Z unique is they want substance. want substance. want substance. They want to go deep. They want to go deep. They want to go deep. >> So define that. >> So define that. >> So define that. >> They want to know what the Greek says. >> They want to know what the Greek says. >> They want to know what the Greek says. They want to know about the manuscripts. They want to know about the manuscripts. They want to know about the manuscripts. They want to know about church history. They want to know about church history. They want to know about church history. They they want to know and and be They they want to know and and be They they want to know and and be informed and so they want to go deep. So informed and so they want to go deep. So informed and so they want to go deep. So the churches that are exploding right the churches that are exploding right the churches that are exploding right now, again Pastor Chris Hill came now, again Pastor Chris Hill came now, again Pastor Chris Hill came College Ave Church right in SDSU. He's College Ave Church right in SDSU. He's College Ave Church right in SDSU. He's he's preaching an hour hard. There's not he's preaching an hour hard. There's not he's preaching an hour hard. There's not always an opening illustration. always an opening illustration. always an opening illustration. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> There's not a story. There's not a funny >> There's not a story. There's not a funny >> There's not a story. There's not a funny story. He he just all right guys we're story. He he just all right guys we're story. He he just all right guys we're in Colossians chapter 4 turn your Bibles in Colossians chapter 4 turn your Bibles in Colossians chapter 4 turn your Bibles boom. I just went to see Pastor Joby boom. I just went to see Pastor Joby boom. I just went to see Pastor Joby Martin out in 1122. One of the one of Martin out in 1122. One of the one of Martin out in 1122. One of the one of the top 20 churches in America right now the top 20 churches in America right now the top 20 churches in America right now over 30,000 35,000 people on a Sunday. over 30,000 35,000 people on a Sunday. over 30,000 35,000 people on a Sunday. Taking them through the Gospel of Taking them through the Gospel of Taking them through the Gospel of Matthew verse by verse. Hey guys Matthew Matthew verse by verse. Hey guys Matthew Matthew verse by verse. Hey guys Matthew boom and then and then he's taking them boom and then and then he's taking them boom and then and then he's taking them through Matthew at Rhythm Church. We through Matthew at Rhythm Church. We through Matthew at Rhythm Church. We just finished Joshua.

just finished Joshua. just finished Joshua. Before that we spent a year in Acts. So Before that we spent a year in Acts. So Before that we spent a year in Acts. So I would say they're they're preaching I would say they're they're preaching I would say they're they're preaching the the scriptures. They're preaching the the scriptures. They're preaching the the scriptures. They're preaching the text. These churches are going the text. These churches are going the text. These churches are going along. They're they're 45 minutes along. They're they're 45 minutes along. They're they're 45 minutes minimal. They're going sometimes an minimal. They're going sometimes an minimal. They're going sometimes an hour. They're going deep. And there is hour. They're going deep. And there is hour. They're going deep. And there is some sort of applicable step. What can some sort of applicable step. What can some sort of applicable step. What can you do? Step in, serve, contribute. you do? Step in, serve, contribute. you do? Step in, serve, contribute. Don't just be a consumer. Don't just sit Don't just be a consumer. Don't just sit Don't just be a consumer. Don't just sit sit and take take take take take. No, sit and take take take take take. No, sit and take take take take take. No, step in and do something with the faith. step in and do something with the faith. step in and do something with the faith. So, those are some of the identity So, those are some of the identity So, those are some of the identity markers that I'm noticing. markers that I'm noticing. markers that I'm noticing. >> Hey everybody, thanks for listening to >> Hey everybody, thanks for listening to >> Hey everybody, thanks for listening to my podcast. Before you go, I wanted to my podcast. Before you go, I wanted to my podcast. Before you go, I wanted to let you know about the important work let you know about the important work let you know about the important work we're doing here at Harvest. You know, we're doing here at Harvest. You know, we're doing here at Harvest. You know, we've had the same goal these last 50 we've had the same goal these last 50 we've had the same goal these last 50 years, which is simply this: We want to years, which is simply this: We want to years, which is simply this: We want to know God and we want to make him known. know God and we want to make him known. know God and we want to make him known. And we do that in a lot of ways: And we do that in a lot of ways: And we do that in a lot of ways: documentary films, animation, radio, documentary films, animation, radio, documentary films, animation, radio, television, large-scale evangelistic television, large-scale evangelistic television, large-scale evangelistic events, and more. If you want to be a events, and more. If you want to be a events, and more. If you want to be a part of what we're doing to fulfill the part of what we're doing to fulfill the part of what we're doing to fulfill the Great Commission, you can support us Great Commission, you can support us Great Commission, you can support us with whatever you can give at with whatever you can give at with whatever you can give at harvest.org/donate.

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