Free Chapel Young Adults Podcast | EP. 15 What Are You Building Your Life Around?

What's going on FCYA? Welcome back to What's going on FCYA? Welcome back to the Free Chapel Young Adult Podcast. the Free Chapel Young Adult Podcast. the Free Chapel Young Adult Podcast. We're here with episode two of our new We're here with episode two of our new We're here with episode two of our new season. Super excited we have a very season. Super excited we have a very season. Super excited we have a very special guest. It's not really a guest special guest. It's not really a guest special guest. It's not really a guest to be honest. It's family. We got the to be honest. It's family. We got the to be honest. It's family. We got the Reverend, the Bishop, the Apostle, the Reverend, the Bishop, the Apostle, the Reverend, the Bishop, the Apostle, the Evangelist, all of it. All of it. We Evangelist, all of it. All of it. We Evangelist, all of it. All of it. We have Pastor Javon Ruff. I know we got have Pastor Javon Ruff. I know we got have Pastor Javon Ruff. I know we got some people in the room, but can we make some people in the room, but can we make some people in the room, but can we make some noise for Pastor Javon, you guys, some noise for Pastor Javon, you guys, some noise for Pastor Javon, you guys, real quick? Make some noise. real quick? Make some noise. real quick? Make some noise. It's like we got a live audience. I love It's like we got a live audience. I love It's like we got a live audience. I love it. I love it. But Pastor Javon, how you it. I love it. But Pastor Javon, how you it. I love it. But Pastor Javon, how you doing? doing? doing? >> I'm good, man. Everything's good. Um, >> I'm good, man. Everything's good. Um, >> I'm good, man. Everything's good. Um, day is going good so far. Things have day is going good so far. Things have day is going good so far. Things have been well. And been well. And been well. And >> it's awesome. >> it's awesome. >> it's awesome. >> Just trying to stay cool here every now >> Just trying to stay cool here every now >> Just trying to stay cool here every now and then. It's been hot lately, but and then. It's been hot lately, but and then. It's been hot lately, but >> it has been. It's But it's been >> it has been. It's But it's been >> it has been. It's But it's been interesting because it's been the rain interesting because it's been the rain interesting because it's been the rain and the heat. Yes. and the heat. Yes. and the heat. Yes. >> All at the same time. The humidity has >> All at the same time. The humidity has >> All at the same time. The humidity has been crazy. been crazy. been crazy. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But I know many of our >> Yeah. But I know many of our >> Yeah. But I know many of our >> viewers uh both locally and globally >> viewers uh both locally and globally >> viewers uh both locally and globally know you from, you know, preaching on know you from, you know, preaching on know you from, you know, preaching on Sundays and bringing those fire words.

Sundays and bringing those fire words. Sundays and bringing those fire words. But for those that may not know who you But for those that may not know who you But for those that may not know who you are, just share with people a little bit are, just share with people a little bit are, just share with people a little bit about who you are and uh what you do about who you are and uh what you do about who you are and uh what you do here at Free Chapel. here at Free Chapel. here at Free Chapel. >> Yeah, I mean um as he said, Pastor Javon >> Yeah, I mean um as he said, Pastor Javon >> Yeah, I mean um as he said, Pastor Javon and have the just the honor and and have the just the honor and and have the just the honor and privilege of serving here at Free privilege of serving here at Free privilege of serving here at Free Chapel. Matter of fact, Pastor Erin, Chapel. Matter of fact, Pastor Erin, Chapel. Matter of fact, Pastor Erin, this is 25 years this year. this is 25 years this year. this is 25 years this year. >> Yeah. We've been at Free Chapel um 25 >> Yeah. We've been at Free Chapel um 25 >> Yeah. We've been at Free Chapel um 25 years. On top of that, I'll be married. years. On top of that, I'll be married. years. On top of that, I'll be married. Shannon and I, my wife, be married for Shannon and I, my wife, be married for Shannon and I, my wife, be married for 25 years. 25 years. 25 years. >> Shout out to Mama Shannon, by the way. >> Shout out to Mama Shannon, by the way. >> Shout out to Mama Shannon, by the way. [laughter] Go, we love you. We [laughter] Go, we love you. We [laughter] Go, we love you. We appreciate you. But appreciate you. But appreciate you. But >> but 25 years have been here. Um of those >> but 25 years have been here. Um of those >> but 25 years have been here. Um of those 25 years, I've been on staff. This makes 25 years, I've been on staff. This makes 25 years, I've been on staff. This makes the 20th year been a part. And um first the 20th year been a part. And um first the 20th year been a part. And um first came to Free Chapel, of course, 25 years came to Free Chapel, of course, 25 years came to Free Chapel, of course, 25 years ago, but didn't come in to be on staff. ago, but didn't come in to be on staff. ago, but didn't come in to be on staff. actually came in as someone who was actually came in as someone who was actually came in as someone who was seeking, who was looking for hope and seeking, who was looking for hope and seeking, who was looking for hope and answers. And of course, God used this answers. And of course, God used this answers. And of course, God used this ministry to radically change my life. ministry to radically change my life. ministry to radically change my life. And so for the last 20 years, just had And so for the last 20 years, just had And so for the last 20 years, just had the priv privilege of serving on the the priv privilege of serving on the the priv privilege of serving on the staff, you know, um various capacities. staff, you know, um various capacities. staff, you know, um various capacities. And now currently the campus pastor at And now currently the campus pastor at And now currently the campus pastor at our Spartanber campus.

our Spartanber campus. our Spartanber campus. >> Shout out to Spartanberg, South >> Shout out to Spartanberg, South >> Shout out to Spartanberg, South Carolina. Let's go. Let's go. It's it's Carolina. Let's go. Let's go. It's it's Carolina. Let's go. Let's go. It's it's it's been a great journey and and of it's been a great journey and and of it's been a great journey and and of course love being a part of our ministry course love being a part of our ministry course love being a part of our ministry and just want to honor even our senior and just want to honor even our senior and just want to honor even our senior pastors, Pastor Franklin, Miss pastors, Pastor Franklin, Miss pastors, Pastor Franklin, Miss >> which is this podcast FYI is sponsored >> which is this podcast FYI is sponsored >> which is this podcast FYI is sponsored by Jensen Franklin Ministries, our by Jensen Franklin Ministries, our by Jensen Franklin Ministries, our bishop, our pastor, our lead pastor, bishop, our pastor, our lead pastor, bishop, our pastor, our lead pastor, Pastor Jensen Franklin. So shout out to Pastor Jensen Franklin. So shout out to Pastor Jensen Franklin. So shout out to him. him. him. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> All that we get to do is due to his >> All that we get to do is due to his >> All that we get to do is due to his heart and his vision. So thank you. heart and his vision. So thank you. heart and his vision. So thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And Mama Sharice, Thank you. Thank you. And Mama Sharice, Thank you. Thank you. And Mama Sharice, we thank you and we appreciate you. So we thank you and we appreciate you. So we thank you and we appreciate you. So that's awesome. It's so funny. You were that's awesome. It's so funny. You were that's awesome. It's so funny. You were talking uh 20 plus years in this and um talking uh 20 plus years in this and um talking uh 20 plus years in this and um we were talking before we got started we were talking before we got started we were talking before we got started that um you have found in your notes the that um you have found in your notes the that um you have found in your notes the second sermon you preached. second sermon you preached. second sermon you preached. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Back in 2004 it was. Can you pull that >> Back in 2004 it was. Can you pull that >> Back in 2004 it was. Can you pull that out real quick? Pull it out. They got to out real quick? Pull it out. They got to out real quick? Pull it out. They got to see this. No, no, no. They got to see see this. No, no, no. They got to see see this. No, no, no. They got to see it. Like this is wild to me. it. Like this is wild to me. it. Like this is wild to me. >> It was this these notes here. >> It was this these notes here. >> It was this these notes here. >> I'll grab for you. >> I'll grab for you. >> I'll grab for you. >> That's crazy. It's actually they're all >> That's crazy. It's actually they're all >> That's crazy. It's actually they're all tethered and torn right there.

tethered and torn right there. tethered and torn right there. >> Wow. Y'all look at this. Look at this. >> Wow. Y'all look at this. Look at this. >> Wow. Y'all look at this. Look at this. But I think couple things that I find But I think couple things that I find But I think couple things that I find neat about this is the fact that like, neat about this is the fact that like, neat about this is the fact that like, you know, over the years, you know, you know, over the years, you know, you know, over the years, you know, people have seen you preach people have seen you preach people have seen you preach >> uh different places at forward >> uh different places at forward >> uh different places at forward conference, people have seen you preach conference, people have seen you preach conference, people have seen you preach on Sunday mornings. And for those young on Sunday mornings. And for those young on Sunday mornings. And for those young adults and you know young people that adults and you know young people that adults and you know young people that want ministry or even starting ministry, want ministry or even starting ministry, want ministry or even starting ministry, this wasn't just an overnight thing. this wasn't just an overnight thing. this wasn't just an overnight thing. Like God has really Like God has really Like God has really >> done a work in and through you. But this >> done a work in and through you. But this >> done a work in and through you. But this is 2004. is 2004. is 2004. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> This is years of just development and >> This is years of just development and >> This is years of just development and God toiling and healing to get to where God toiling and healing to get to where God toiling and healing to get to where you are today. But 2004, your second you are today. But 2004, your second you are today. But 2004, your second sermon. sermon. sermon. >> 2004. Yep. >> 2004. Yep. >> 2004. Yep. >> Now, what did you preach on? because you >> Now, what did you preach on? because you >> Now, what did you preach on? because you I I saw up here it says granddaddy died I I saw up here it says granddaddy died I I saw up here it says granddaddy died 12 it was something 12 something PM so 12 it was something 12 something PM so 12 it was something 12 something PM so you you got to give some context you you got to give some context you you got to give some context >> what's unique about that is what that >> what's unique about that is what that >> what's unique about that is what that means that note is that my grandfather means that note is that my grandfather means that note is that my grandfather actually passed away that day the day of actually passed away that day the day of actually passed away that day the day of um around noon that day and um around noon that day and um around noon that day and >> I had [clears throat] already been asked >> I had [clears throat] already been asked >> I had [clears throat] already been asked to share on it was a Wednesday night and to share on it was a Wednesday night and to share on it was a Wednesday night and >> um I never forget contemplating like I >> um I never forget contemplating like I >> um I never forget contemplating like I can't do this I just lost probably the can't do this I just lost probably the can't do this I just lost probably the you know the one man in my life that has you know the one man in my life that has you know the one man in my life that has significant impact on my life as a as a significant impact on my life as a as a significant impact on my life as a as a grandfather and just emotionally I was grandfather and just emotionally I was grandfather and just emotionally I was rattled I didn't know what to do just rattled I didn't know what to do just rattled I didn't know what to do just toiling you know with that and I was toiling you know with that and I was toiling you know with that and I was going back and forth in my mind should I going back and forth in my mind should I going back and forth in my mind should I cancel should I call should I cancel cancel should I call should I cancel

cancel should I call should I cancel should I call and um I'll I'll never should I call and um I'll I'll never should I call and um I'll I'll never forget just like you know what God what forget just like you know what God what forget just like you know what God what do I do and and I've just you know even do I do and and I've just you know even do I do and and I've just you know even in even back then you know my go-to was in even back then you know my go-to was in even back then you know my go-to was always go to the word. I pray God, what always go to the word. I pray God, what always go to the word. I pray God, what do I do? And I I just some you can say do I do? And I I just some you can say do I do? And I I just some you can say it was coincidental or accidental. I it was coincidental or accidental. I it was coincidental or accidental. I don't really believe in that. But when I don't really believe in that. But when I don't really believe in that. But when I open up my Bible, it fell to this open up my Bible, it fell to this open up my Bible, it fell to this passage in Deuteronomy where Moses was passage in Deuteronomy where Moses was passage in Deuteronomy where Moses was giving Joshua the charge that he must go giving Joshua the charge that he must go giving Joshua the charge that he must go over before the people. Yeah. over before the people. Yeah. over before the people. Yeah. >> Because he was going to help them into >> Because he was going to help them into >> Because he was going to help them into the promised land. And I read that and I the promised land. And I read that and I the promised land. And I read that and I just said out of my mouth before I just said out of my mouth before I just said out of my mouth before I realized it, I said, "I must." realized it, I said, "I must." realized it, I said, "I must." >> That's good. I must and and that's what >> That's good. I must and and that's what >> That's good. I must and and that's what I called this and I began reading and I called this and I began reading and I called this and I began reading and then I took out pencil and paper and then I took out pencil and paper and then I took out pencil and paper and began to write you know um this message began to write you know um this message began to write you know um this message down which was different than I was and down which was different than I was and down which was different than I was and so it was kind of birthed out of a so it was kind of birthed out of a so it was kind of birthed out of a moment moment moment >> and I began to ask myself what would my >> and I began to ask myself what would my >> and I began to ask myself what would my grandfather want me to do? grandfather want me to do? grandfather want me to do? >> Wow. And um and I realized in that >> Wow. And um and I realized in that >> Wow. And um and I realized in that moment it was painful. It was emotional.

moment it was painful. It was emotional. moment it was painful. It was emotional. I was hurting. But also I knew that I was hurting. But also I knew that I was hurting. But also I knew that number one my grandfather was in a number one my grandfather was in a number one my grandfather was in a better place and I knew that if I had better place and I knew that if I had better place and I knew that if I had the opportunity that night to share. I the opportunity that night to share. I the opportunity that night to share. I felt that I had that burden. I must felt that I had that burden. I must felt that I had that burden. I must because it actually said this Moses my because it actually said this Moses my because it actually said this Moses my servant is dead. servant is dead. servant is dead. >> Oh >> Oh >> Oh >> when God addressed it in Joshua. So it >> when God addressed it in Joshua. So it >> when God addressed it in Joshua. So it was like when I read that too it was was like when I read that too it was was like when I read that too it was like okay he's gone. Yeah, like okay he's gone. Yeah, like okay he's gone. Yeah, >> you know, so let me continue on. Let me >> you know, so let me continue on. Let me >> you know, so let me continue on. Let me carry. So I felt the burden. I must go carry. So I felt the burden. I must go carry. So I felt the burden. I must go preach tonight. preach tonight. preach tonight. >> I'm getting that speaks even today. So >> I'm getting that speaks even today. So >> I'm getting that speaks even today. So for those who are navigating significant for those who are navigating significant for those who are navigating significant loss, loss, loss, >> you know, I know we didn't plan this. >> you know, I know we didn't plan this. >> you know, I know we didn't plan this. This is totally not planned, This is totally not planned, This is totally not planned, >> but you know, that's an encouraging word >> but you know, that's an encouraging word >> but you know, that's an encouraging word that you must keep going on. Whatever uh that you must keep going on. Whatever uh that you must keep going on. Whatever uh you have lost in this season, know that you have lost in this season, know that you have lost in this season, know that God can return it and return it to the God can return it and return it to the God can return it and return it to the fullness of his promise for your life. fullness of his promise for your life. fullness of his promise for your life. So you must keep going. So whatever you So you must keep going. So whatever you So you must keep going. So whatever you have lost, whether you lost a job or a have lost, whether you lost a job or a have lost, whether you lost a job or a loved one, loved one, loved one, >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. >> Let him know God wants you to keep going >> Let him know God wants you to keep going >> Let him know God wants you to keep going and serving him and loving him and and serving him and loving him and and serving him and loving him and spreading the gospel.

spreading the gospel. spreading the gospel. >> Amen. >> Amen. >> Amen. >> That's a great word. Amen. >> That's a great word. Amen. >> That's a great word. Amen. >> So that's a quick look back, >> So that's a quick look back, >> So that's a quick look back, >> but I was thinking about this as we were >> but I was thinking about this as we were >> but I was thinking about this as we were like just, you know, coming into today. like just, you know, coming into today. like just, you know, coming into today. You're in a very interesting season You're in a very interesting season You're in a very interesting season because it's kind of funny we have you because it's kind of funny we have you because it's kind of funny we have you on a pod because you have two young on a pod because you have two young on a pod because you have two young adults right now. adults right now. adults right now. >> Yes. two college young adults. I got to >> Yes. two college young adults. I got to >> Yes. two college young adults. I got to ask, what is that like? Like where are ask, what is that like? Like where are ask, what is that like? Like where are you at right now? What what are you you at right now? What what are you you at right now? What what are you seeing? What are you feeling having two seeing? What are you feeling having two seeing? What are you feeling having two young adults, you know, as kids right young adults, you know, as kids right young adults, you know, as kids right now? Your your daughter and your son. now? Your your daughter and your son. now? Your your daughter and your son. >> Um to to say where am I at right now? >> Um to to say where am I at right now? >> Um to to say where am I at right now? I'm still trying to figure out where am I'm still trying to figure out where am I'm still trying to figure out where am I [laughter] at right now I [laughter] at right now I [laughter] at right now >> because y'all empty nesters, right? >> because y'all empty nesters, right? >> because y'all empty nesters, right? >> Yeah. Yeah. To a certain degree. Yeah. I >> Yeah. Yeah. To a certain degree. Yeah. I >> Yeah. Yeah. To a certain degree. Yeah. I I I think you know when I say where am I I I think you know when I say where am I I I think you know when I say where am I at right now I pastor Erin to be honest at right now I pastor Erin to be honest at right now I pastor Erin to be honest it's still trying to wrap my head around it's still trying to wrap my head around it's still trying to wrap my head around about how fast time has gone. about how fast time has gone. about how fast time has gone. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And on one side of me there's the >> And on one side of me there's the >> And on one side of me there's the excitement of my kids or young adults excitement of my kids or young adults excitement of my kids or young adults are getting older but on the other side are getting older but on the other side are getting older but on the other side I'm fighting like I want it to slow down I'm fighting like I want it to slow down I'm fighting like I want it to slow down you know. Could I put it in reverse? But you know. Could I put it in reverse? But you know. Could I put it in reverse? But >> I think when you say where am I at and >> I think when you say where am I at and >> I think when you say where am I at and of course Shana too. I think there's a of course Shana too. I think there's a of course Shana too. I think there's a lot of joy in seeing now as your your lot of joy in seeing now as your your lot of joy in seeing now as your your your kids begin to transition, like you your kids begin to transition, like you your kids begin to transition, like you said, into young adults and now seeing a said, into young adults and now seeing a said, into young adults and now seeing a level of independence that maybe we level of independence that maybe we level of independence that maybe we weren't accustomed to and um have not weren't accustomed to and um have not weren't accustomed to and um have not seen, but seeing them walk in that and seen, but seeing them walk in that and seen, but seeing them walk in that and I'll even say that's hard for a parent,

I'll even say that's hard for a parent, I'll even say that's hard for a parent, you know. Um, of course they love us and you know. Um, of course they love us and you know. Um, of course they love us and they still call us and and they're still they still call us and and they're still they still call us and and they're still our kids and they still need everything. our kids and they still need everything. our kids and they still need everything. But But But >> shout out to Sydney. She's in the crowd. >> shout out to Sydney. She's in the crowd. >> shout out to Sydney. She's in the crowd. She's here. she's interning with us in She's here. she's interning with us in She's here. she's interning with us in the summer. So, shout out to her. the summer. So, shout out to her. the summer. So, shout out to her. >> But I I guess for me, you know, it it is >> But I I guess for me, you know, it it is >> But I I guess for me, you know, it it is the challenge of letting go. the challenge of letting go. the challenge of letting go. >> Um, you know what I'm saying? And >> Um, you know what I'm saying? And >> Um, you know what I'm saying? And allowing them, you know, to continue to allowing them, you know, to continue to allowing them, you know, to continue to >> to become, you know, the people that God >> to become, you know, the people that God >> to become, you know, the people that God has called them to be and as they get has called them to be and as they get has called them to be and as they get older. But, you know, you think about older. But, you know, you think about older. But, you know, you think about it, the scripture says that you train it, the scripture says that you train it, the scripture says that you train your children up, you know, in the way your children up, you know, in the way your children up, you know, in the way that they should go and when they get that they should go and when they get that they should go and when they get older, they shall not depart from it. So older, they shall not depart from it. So older, they shall not depart from it. So also you have to see it as this is what also you have to see it as this is what also you have to see it as this is what you have been working on your wife and you have been working on your wife and you have been working on your wife and yourself in preparing for this day. yourself in preparing for this day. yourself in preparing for this day. >> Yeah. you raise them up, as crazy as >> Yeah. you raise them up, as crazy as >> Yeah. you raise them up, as crazy as this sound, to get ready to leave, this sound, to get ready to leave, this sound, to get ready to leave, >> you know, and um there's days, I'll be >> you know, and um there's days, I'll be >> you know, and um there's days, I'll be honest, there's times, I mean, it could honest, there's times, I mean, it could honest, there's times, I mean, it could be weird, a tear hit mom like, "Oh god, be weird, a tear hit mom like, "Oh god, be weird, a tear hit mom like, "Oh god, >> here's another year." They're getting >> here's another year." They're getting >> here's another year." They're getting older. But I I love this season. Um older. But I I love this season. Um older. But I I love this season. Um because although they're my kids, um we because although they're my kids, um we because although they're my kids, um we we have a lot of fun. We hang out as a we have a lot of fun. We hang out as a we have a lot of fun. We hang out as a family. We cut up as a family family. We cut up as a family family. We cut up as a family >> and there's a unique dynamic there. And >> and there's a unique dynamic there. And >> and there's a unique dynamic there. And um it's like we're we're we're a family, um it's like we're we're we're a family, um it's like we're we're we're a family, but we're also four good friends, too, but we're also four good friends, too, but we're also four good friends, too, when it comes to Shann and I and the when it comes to Shann and I and the when it comes to Shann and I and the kids. And so it's a good place. I'm kids. And so it's a good place. I'm kids. And so it's a good place. I'm excited. I think what I I get to sit excited. I think what I I get to sit excited. I think what I I get to sit back and say, "God, look what look at back and say, "God, look what look at back and say, "God, look what look at what you're doing."

what you're doing." what you're doing." >> Amen. >> Amen. >> Amen. >> You know, >> You know, >> You know, >> which I think kind of can help us >> which I think kind of can help us >> which I think kind of can help us transition. I think, you know, it's transition. I think, you know, it's transition. I think, you know, it's great having you here uh to be able to great having you here uh to be able to great having you here uh to be able to share some wisdom because having two uh share some wisdom because having two uh share some wisdom because having two uh young adult kids, you know, again, young adult kids, you know, again, young adult kids, you know, again, you're a campus pastor, you're a pastor, you're a campus pastor, you're a pastor, you're a campus pastor, you're a pastor, you're a shepherd, so you're seeing you're a shepherd, so you're seeing you're a shepherd, so you're seeing everything, you know, from men to everything, you know, from men to everything, you know, from men to marriages to all of it. marriages to all of it. marriages to all of it. >> But again, it's a unique season because >> But again, it's a unique season because >> But again, it's a unique season because you're, you're, you're, >> you know, able to take a glimpse at two >> you know, able to take a glimpse at two >> you know, able to take a glimpse at two young adult kids and kind of peek into young adult kids and kind of peek into young adult kids and kind of peek into that world a little more intentional, if that world a little more intentional, if that world a little more intentional, if that makes sense. So, uh, with seeing that makes sense. So, uh, with seeing that makes sense. So, uh, with seeing where they are at just holistically, not where they are at just holistically, not where they are at just holistically, not even specific to them, but just seeing even specific to them, but just seeing even specific to them, but just seeing them as young adults, have you seen them as young adults, have you seen them as young adults, have you seen something in just the young adult age something in just the young adult age something in just the young adult age range that has sort of like uh sparked range that has sort of like uh sparked range that has sort of like uh sparked something in you? Like what are you something in you? Like what are you something in you? Like what are you seeing in the young adult space in seeing in the young adult space in seeing in the young adult space in compares to your kids and or their compares to your kids and or their compares to your kids and or their friend group or just in general? Well, I friend group or just in general? Well, I friend group or just in general? Well, I I think if you look at it now, I I I think if you look at it now, I I I think if you look at it now, I I believe that when you say the young believe that when you say the young believe that when you say the young adult space, I believe, and I'm just adult space, I believe, and I'm just adult space, I believe, and I'm just going to speak it biblically, that there going to speak it biblically, that there going to speak it biblically, that there is a real desire and a hunger to really is a real desire and a hunger to really is a real desire and a hunger to really understand who they are and what they've understand who they are and what they've understand who they are and what they've been called and created to be and to been called and created to be and to been called and created to be and to accomplish in life. They're longing for accomplish in life. They're longing for accomplish in life. They're longing for it. They're looking for it, and they it. They're looking for it, and they it. They're looking for it, and they want it. Now, I'll say that gen want it. Now, I'll say that gen want it. Now, I'll say that gen generally speaking and biblically generally speaking and biblically generally speaking and biblically speaking, I believe that is so true now speaking, I believe that is so true now speaking, I believe that is so true now as we're seeing a young adult as we're seeing a young adult as we're seeing a young adult generation, you know, really the the

generation, you know, really the the generation, you know, really the the numbers are proving it as flocking back numbers are proving it as flocking back numbers are proving it as flocking back to churches. Um, I have uh several to churches. Um, I have uh several to churches. Um, I have uh several pastor friends and I spoke with one a pastor friends and I spoke with one a pastor friends and I spoke with one a couple weeks ago. He said right now 60% couple weeks ago. He said right now 60% couple weeks ago. He said right now 60% of his church of his church of his church >> is the young adult age. Yeah. >> is the young adult age. Yeah. >> is the young adult age. Yeah. >> And and and it's not that they've done >> And and and it's not that they've done >> And and and it's not that they've done anything strategic. He said, "I'm an old anything strategic. He said, "I'm an old anything strategic. He said, "I'm an old guy and they're coming out of the guy and they're coming out of the guy and they're coming out of the woodworks." And I believe there's this woodworks." And I believe there's this woodworks." And I believe there's this hunger and there's this all this desire hunger and there's this all this desire hunger and there's this all this desire number one for the authentic, for the number one for the authentic, for the number one for the authentic, for the real, especially when it comes to real, especially when it comes to real, especially when it comes to spirituality. But even outside, spirituality. But even outside, spirituality. But even outside, >> let's say, outside of church, there's >> let's say, outside of church, there's >> let's say, outside of church, there's still a longing. There's still a desire still a longing. There's still a desire still a longing. There's still a desire because I believe that's something that because I believe that's something that because I believe that's something that God put inside of all of us. Yeah. God put inside of all of us. Yeah. God put inside of all of us. Yeah. >> A longing for significance and purpose. >> A longing for significance and purpose. >> A longing for significance and purpose. And so, um, what that means is I feel And so, um, what that means is I feel And so, um, what that means is I feel like, especially the church, biblically like, especially the church, biblically like, especially the church, biblically speaking, is we have an amazing speaking, is we have an amazing speaking, is we have an amazing opportunity, opportunity, opportunity, >> but also a responsibility to them. >> but also a responsibility to them. >> but also a responsibility to them. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> To mentor them, to lead them, to walk >> To mentor them, to lead them, to walk >> To mentor them, to lead them, to walk beside them, to pour into them, to beside them, to pour into them, to beside them, to pour into them, to encourage them, to teach them, and help encourage them, to teach them, and help encourage them, to teach them, and help them, you know, um, in life. And not them, you know, um, in life. And not them, you know, um, in life. And not just, you know, church, you know, just just, you know, church, you know, just just, you know, church, you know, just maybe ministry things, but in life in maybe ministry things, but in life in maybe ministry things, but in life in general. and uh and they want it, you general. and uh and they want it, you general. and uh and they want it, you know, in addition to pay to their know, in addition to pay to their know, in addition to pay to their parents and things of that sort. And um parents and things of that sort. And um parents and things of that sort. And um but that's what I feel like I at this but that's what I feel like I at this but that's what I feel like I at this age um I'm not that old, but what I feel age um I'm not that old, but what I feel age um I'm not that old, but what I feel like when you say is I'm at a place now like when you say is I'm at a place now like when you say is I'm at a place now is it's it's not about what I'm trying is it's it's not about what I'm trying is it's it's not about what I'm trying to get.

to get. to get. >> It's about what can I give? >> It's about what can I give? >> It's about what can I give? >> That's good. >> That's good. >> That's good. >> What can I give? What can I deposit? >> What can I give? What can I deposit? >> What can I give? What can I deposit? What can I impart? Even sitting here What can I impart? Even sitting here What can I impart? Even sitting here today is there's something that you know today is there's something that you know today is there's something that you know a mentor of mine said this. He said, a mentor of mine said this. He said, a mentor of mine said this. He said, "The beautiful thing about wisdom and "The beautiful thing about wisdom and "The beautiful thing about wisdom and experience, Javon, is you can get in experience, Javon, is you can get in experience, Javon, is you can get in five minutes what took someone five five minutes what took someone five five minutes what took someone five years to learn." years to learn." years to learn." >> True. Yeah. >> True. Yeah. >> True. Yeah. >> And if I can sit down in five minutes >> And if I can sit down in five minutes >> And if I can sit down in five minutes with a young adult and tell them in five with a young adult and tell them in five with a young adult and tell them in five minutes what took me five years to help minutes what took me five years to help minutes what took me five years to help them avoid some things, them avoid some things, them avoid some things, >> that is my greatest joy, you know, and I >> that is my greatest joy, you know, and I >> that is my greatest joy, you know, and I said, so I feel like I said, there's an said, so I feel like I said, there's an said, so I feel like I said, there's an opportunity, but I feel the weight of opportunity, but I feel the weight of opportunity, but I feel the weight of the responsibility to not just my own, the responsibility to not just my own, the responsibility to not just my own, but any other young adults if that that but any other young adults if that that but any other young adults if that that were the case. were the case. were the case. >> Yeah. And and I want to park here for a >> Yeah. And and I want to park here for a >> Yeah. And and I want to park here for a second because I think you're saying second because I think you're saying second because I think you're saying something that I think we need to tap something that I think we need to tap something that I think we need to tap into a little bit um because you talked into a little bit um because you talked into a little bit um because you talked about being able to be available to about being able to be available to about being able to be available to disciple them and get in their world and disciple them and get in their world and disciple them and get in their world and help them along the way with just life help them along the way with just life help them along the way with just life because you said it. They're coming in because you said it. They're coming in because you said it. They're coming in droves, but they have questions. droves, but they have questions. droves, but they have questions. >> Absolutely. But I think where I want to >> Absolutely. But I think where I want to >> Absolutely. But I think where I want to park is one of my concerns and it's park is one of my concerns and it's park is one of my concerns and it's through the lens of this who's leading through the lens of this who's leading through the lens of this who's leading you and pastoring you because the danger you and pastoring you because the danger you and pastoring you because the danger that I'm seeing in the young adult space that I'm seeing in the young adult space that I'm seeing in the young adult space uh even down to youth is who's leading uh even down to youth is who's leading uh even down to youth is who's leading them and what I'm seeing is social media them and what I'm seeing is social media them and what I'm seeing is social media is leading them.

is leading them. is leading them. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. And because we had this conversation And because we had this conversation And because we had this conversation with the summer interns uh the other day with the summer interns uh the other day with the summer interns uh the other day we were doing a Sunday debrief and I we were doing a Sunday debrief and I we were doing a Sunday debrief and I told him my concern is of like you have told him my concern is of like you have told him my concern is of like you have all these young people following these all these young people following these all these young people following these Christian influencers Christian influencers Christian influencers >> and I I want to make sure I preface >> and I I want to make sure I preface >> and I I want to make sure I preface this. I have no gripes or issues with this. I have no gripes or issues with this. I have no gripes or issues with people spreading the gospel online. But people spreading the gospel online. But people spreading the gospel online. But what I would challenge someone on is be what I would challenge someone on is be what I would challenge someone on is be careful who you're following to make careful who you're following to make careful who you're following to make sure that what they are discipling you sure that what they are discipling you sure that what they are discipling you in and what they're teaching or in and what they're teaching or in and what they're teaching or preaching, they're actually living. preaching, they're actually living. preaching, they're actually living. >> Like what is their life like? Like for >> Like what is their life like? Like for >> Like what is their life like? Like for instance, I I challenge anyone even for instance, I I challenge anyone even for instance, I I challenge anyone even for us that like as we do this podcast, come us that like as we do this podcast, come us that like as we do this podcast, come to one of our services. Come come to one of our services. Come come to one of our services. Come come connect, get plugged in um intentionally connect, get plugged in um intentionally connect, get plugged in um intentionally so you can know that what we say, we're so you can know that what we say, we're so you can know that what we say, we're not just saying it because it sound not just saying it because it sound not just saying it because it sound cool, but we're actually living it. So cool, but we're actually living it. So cool, but we're actually living it. So like if we talk about purity, know that like if we talk about purity, know that like if we talk about purity, know that we're living that. we're living that. we're living that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh if we talk about, you know, loving >> Uh if we talk about, you know, loving >> Uh if we talk about, you know, loving people, they can see how you treat people, they can see how you treat people, they can see how you treat Shana, how I treat my wife Christa, how Shana, how I treat my wife Christa, how Shana, how I treat my wife Christa, how I how we treat our kids. You know, do I how we treat our kids. You know, do I how we treat our kids. You know, do you see that as a danger? And but what you see that as a danger? And but what you see that as a danger? And but what would you say um to young adults? Not to would you say um to young adults? Not to would you say um to young adults? Not to discourage them from, you know, discourage them from, you know, discourage them from, you know, listening to people online, but to give listening to people online, but to give listening to people online, but to give them wisdom on how to navigate that.

them wisdom on how to navigate that. them wisdom on how to navigate that. What would you say? What would you say? What would you say? >> Well, absolutely. Um there's a scripture >> Well, absolutely. Um there's a scripture >> Well, absolutely. Um there's a scripture um in the Bible that says that there are um in the Bible that says that there are um in the Bible that says that there are many voices in the world. You know Jesus many voices in the world. You know Jesus many voices in the world. You know Jesus even said um uh my sheep know my voice even said um uh my sheep know my voice even said um uh my sheep know my voice and a stranger and a stranger and a stranger >> they will not follow. So what we're >> they will not follow. So what we're >> they will not follow. So what we're dealing in a in a in a digital age and dealing in a in a in a digital age and dealing in a in a in a digital age and society that there are many voices. society that there are many voices. society that there are many voices. >> Yeah. There are many opinions, there are >> Yeah. There are many opinions, there are >> Yeah. There are many opinions, there are many perspectives, there are many um many perspectives, there are many um many perspectives, there are many um ideologies and and and things of that ideologies and and and things of that ideologies and and and things of that sort which you know you can't sort which you know you can't sort which you know you can't necessarily stop it, necessarily stop it, necessarily stop it, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> But but it comes back to with life in >> But but it comes back to with life in >> But but it comes back to with life in general. Here's a principle. How do I general. Here's a principle. How do I general. Here's a principle. How do I what am I measuring anything by? what am I measuring anything by? what am I measuring anything by? >> You know, there's a reason why we have a >> You know, there's a reason why we have a >> You know, there's a reason why we have a measuring system. measuring system. measuring system. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> To ensure things are in proper spec. And >> To ensure things are in proper spec. And >> To ensure things are in proper spec. And so when it comes to the voices I'm so when it comes to the voices I'm so when it comes to the voices I'm listening to, listening to, listening to, >> the measurement, especially as a >> the measurement, especially as a >> the measurement, especially as a believer, becomes the word of God. believer, becomes the word of God. believer, becomes the word of God. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> How does this line up to the actual word >> How does this line up to the actual word >> How does this line up to the actual word of God? And not just what they're of God? And not just what they're of God? And not just what they're saying.

saying. saying. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But also what they're living >> But also what they're living >> But also what they're living >> living. Yeah. >> living. Yeah. >> living. Yeah. >> Jesus said these words. He said, "You >> Jesus said these words. He said, "You >> Jesus said these words. He said, "You honor me with your mouth and worship me honor me with your mouth and worship me honor me with your mouth and worship me with your lips, but yet your heart is with your lips, but yet your heart is with your lips, but yet your heart is far from me." far from me." far from me." >> He spoke of the scribes and Pharisees. >> He spoke of the scribes and Pharisees. >> He spoke of the scribes and Pharisees. He said, "You are white and seeers, full He said, "You are white and seeers, full He said, "You are white and seeers, full of dead men's bones. You are articulate. of dead men's bones. You are articulate. of dead men's bones. You are articulate. >> You sound smooth talking. >> You sound smooth talking. >> You sound smooth talking. >> You are great with your words. But when >> You are great with your words. But when >> You are great with your words. But when he said white and sephila full of dead he said white and sephila full of dead he said white and sephila full of dead man bones, the emphasis is this. You're man bones, the emphasis is this. You're man bones, the emphasis is this. You're more concerned with image than more concerned with image than more concerned with image than character. character. character. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You're more concerned with influencing >> You're more concerned with influencing >> You're more concerned with influencing others, but you're not truly being others, but you're not truly being others, but you're not truly being impacted internally by Christ. That's impacted internally by Christ. That's impacted internally by Christ. That's right. And when he said supplicer full right. And when he said supplicer full right. And when he said supplicer full of dead man's bones, he said which it of dead man's bones, he said which it of dead man's bones, he said which it actually was a picture of of tombstones, actually was a picture of of tombstones, actually was a picture of of tombstones, you know, you know, you know, >> and it's full of dead men's bones. The >> and it's full of dead men's bones. The >> and it's full of dead men's bones. The outside of them were nice. outside of them were nice. outside of them were nice. >> They were pretty. They were uh >> They were pretty. They were uh >> They were pretty. They were uh attractive. Yeah. attractive. Yeah. attractive. Yeah. >> They caught people's attention. Yeah. >> They caught people's attention. Yeah. >> They caught people's attention. Yeah. >> But yet when you got underneath >> But yet when you got underneath >> But yet when you got underneath >> That's right.

>> That's right. >> That's right. >> it was emptiness. >> it was emptiness. >> it was emptiness. >> Yeah. And so the Bible even tells us >> Yeah. And so the Bible even tells us >> Yeah. And so the Bible even tells us that there would come a time where many that there would come a time where many that there would come a time where many would have a form would have a form would have a form >> of godliness but deny the power thereof. >> of godliness but deny the power thereof. >> of godliness but deny the power thereof. Deny the power of God or the Holy Spirit Deny the power of God or the Holy Spirit Deny the power of God or the Holy Spirit that actually transforms you and change that actually transforms you and change that actually transforms you and change your life so that your lifestyle lines your life so that your lifestyle lines your life so that your lifestyle lines up with your lips. That's right. up with your lips. That's right. up with your lips. That's right. >> And so the reality of it is is that your >> And so the reality of it is is that your >> And so the reality of it is is that your life has to speak more than your lips. life has to speak more than your lips. life has to speak more than your lips. >> And that's what they want. And when when >> And that's what they want. And when when >> And that's what they want. And when when you see a young generation and they see you see a young generation and they see you see a young generation and they see the contradiction, it's like it it could the contradiction, it's like it it could the contradiction, it's like it it could go both ways. It's it's like, well, they go both ways. It's it's like, well, they go both ways. It's it's like, well, they don't even believe what they preach. Or don't even believe what they preach. Or don't even believe what they preach. Or if if you say this is real, then why why if if you say this is real, then why why if if you say this is real, then why why is this? is this? is this? >> But the voices are out there. And that's >> But the voices are out there. And that's >> But the voices are out there. And that's why we have to teach. We have to mentor why we have to teach. We have to mentor why we have to teach. We have to mentor and we have to bring them back. But what and we have to bring them back. But what and we have to bring them back. But what the what does the Bible say? the what does the Bible say? the what does the Bible say? >> And teaching them how to accurately >> And teaching them how to accurately >> And teaching them how to accurately interpret scripture. Let's just get to interpret scripture. Let's just get to interpret scripture. Let's just get to that. when you mention the word disciple that. when you mention the word disciple that. when you mention the word disciple because it's not just reading the word. because it's not just reading the word. because it's not just reading the word. Yeah. But it's reading the word Yeah. But it's reading the word Yeah. But it's reading the word accurately and being able to interpret accurately and being able to interpret accurately and being able to interpret it properly it properly it properly >> in context.

>> in context. >> in context. >> In context >> In context >> In context >> because we we touched on that a one of >> because we we touched on that a one of >> because we we touched on that a one of the issues again with sort of this the issues again with sort of this the issues again with sort of this social media disciplehip culture is, you social media disciplehip culture is, you social media disciplehip culture is, you know, some of some people aren't know, some of some people aren't know, some of some people aren't teaching sound doctrine and and good teaching sound doctrine and and good teaching sound doctrine and and good theology. It's kind of all over the theology. It's kind of all over the theology. It's kind of all over the place. And I was sharing with them of place. And I was sharing with them of place. And I was sharing with them of how some things have little Calvinism in how some things have little Calvinism in how some things have little Calvinism in it or this hyper grace or just all these it or this hyper grace or just all these it or this hyper grace or just all these different things that can slowly it it different things that can slowly it it different things that can slowly it it sounds good and and the Bible talks sounds good and and the Bible talks sounds good and and the Bible talks about this. The itching ears will like about this. The itching ears will like about this. The itching ears will like that. Yes. that. Yes. that. Yes. >> But it's leading them down a path that >> But it's leading them down a path that >> But it's leading them down a path that isn't truly the path that God has isn't truly the path that God has isn't truly the path that God has designed through real sound doctrine and designed through real sound doctrine and designed through real sound doctrine and theology. Yes. theology. Yes. theology. Yes. >> But again, how do you like and you say >> But again, how do you like and you say >> But again, how do you like and you say it disciplehip? So would you and Go it disciplehip? So would you and Go it disciplehip? So would you and Go ahead. You're about to say something. I ahead. You're about to say something. I ahead. You're about to say something. I I think that's where it comes back to I think that's where it comes back to I think that's where it comes back to this. We have to ask the question, are this. We have to ask the question, are this. We have to ask the question, are you planted in the local? you planted in the local? you planted in the local? >> That's what I want to get to. >> That's what I want to get to. >> That's what I want to get to. >> There it is. >> There it is. >> There it is. >> Where are you planted? You we we as a as >> Where are you planted? You we we as a as >> Where are you planted? You we we as a as a follower of Christ and you know once a follower of Christ and you know once a follower of Christ and you know once again voices the church this, the church again voices the church this, the church again voices the church this, the church that, the church this, it's about this, that, the church this, it's about this, that, the church this, it's about this, it's about that. There's always going to it's about that. There's always going to it's about that. There's always going to be these opinions. It's been that way be these opinions. It's been that way be these opinions. It's been that way since the beginning. Yeah. But at the at since the beginning. Yeah. But at the at since the beginning. Yeah. But at the at the end of the day, we have to remember the end of the day, we have to remember the end of the day, we have to remember that the church is Christ's bride. Yes.

that the church is Christ's bride. Yes. that the church is Christ's bride. Yes. >> And he never said the church was perfect >> And he never said the church was perfect >> And he never said the church was perfect either because it's made of people. And either because it's made of people. And either because it's made of people. And as long as it's made of people, there's as long as it's made of people, there's as long as it's made of people, there's going to be flaws. going to be flaws. going to be flaws. >> But the question becomes, >> But the question becomes, >> But the question becomes, >> I challenge anyone that says, "I can be >> I challenge anyone that says, "I can be >> I challenge anyone that says, "I can be a Christian and not go to church." It's a Christian and not go to church." It's a Christian and not go to church." It's not scriptural, not scriptural, not scriptural, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> It's not scriptural, >> It's not scriptural, >> It's not scriptural, >> right? So, so, so if you don't find a >> right? So, so, so if you don't find a >> right? So, so, so if you don't find a place to submit yourself place to submit yourself place to submit yourself >> right >> right >> right >> under leadership, under authority, God, >> under leadership, under authority, God, >> under leadership, under authority, God, Ephesians chapter 4, it gives the layout Ephesians chapter 4, it gives the layout Ephesians chapter 4, it gives the layout of the ministerial eldership of pastors, of the ministerial eldership of pastors, of the ministerial eldership of pastors, preachers, prophet, teachers, and preachers, prophet, teachers, and preachers, prophet, teachers, and evangelists. And it said this, for the evangelists. And it said this, for the evangelists. And it said this, for the edification of the body, which means to edification of the body, which means to edification of the body, which means to build up. build up. build up. >> Yes. And it says for the perfecting of >> Yes. And it says for the perfecting of >> Yes. And it says for the perfecting of the saints, not perfect as men flawless, the saints, not perfect as men flawless, the saints, not perfect as men flawless, but the maturing, helping them mature in but the maturing, helping them mature in but the maturing, helping them mature in the faith and walk in the faith so they the faith and walk in the faith so they the faith and walk in the faith so they can do the work of the ministry. So this can do the work of the ministry. So this can do the work of the ministry. So this is the biblical setup and model of a is the biblical setup and model of a is the biblical setup and model of a church that creates a space for us to church that creates a space for us to church that creates a space for us to get plugged in to be mentored to be get plugged in to be mentored to be get plugged in to be mentored to be taught to be discipled. If you look at taught to be discipled. If you look at taught to be discipled. If you look at Jesus in the beginning, three and a half Jesus in the beginning, three and a half Jesus in the beginning, three and a half years, you know, he's pouring into that.

years, you know, he's pouring into that. years, you know, he's pouring into that. He said, "Follow me." Yeah. And I'll He said, "Follow me." Yeah. And I'll He said, "Follow me." Yeah. And I'll make you disciples. And so, that's a make you disciples. And so, that's a make you disciples. And so, that's a we've got to get back to disciplehip. we've got to get back to disciplehip. we've got to get back to disciplehip. And and I want to say this, I am 100% And and I want to say this, I am 100% And and I want to say this, I am 100% for um um I don't want to sound like I'm for um um I don't want to sound like I'm for um um I don't want to sound like I'm not against Sunday in services, but when not against Sunday in services, but when not against Sunday in services, but when you look at a Sunday service, it's a you look at a Sunday service, it's a you look at a Sunday service, it's a often times it's a major moment of often times it's a major moment of often times it's a major moment of impact. Yeah. impact. Yeah. impact. Yeah. >> It's an encounter that positions us and >> It's an encounter that positions us and >> It's an encounter that positions us and can set us on a new trajectory. can set us on a new trajectory. can set us on a new trajectory. >> But but but you and I both know is that >> But but but you and I both know is that >> But but but you and I both know is that it doesn't stop there. M it doesn't stop there. M it doesn't stop there. M >> you know Paul had an encounter on >> you know Paul had an encounter on >> you know Paul had an encounter on Damascus road. Yeah, Damascus road. Yeah, Damascus road. Yeah, >> that that that changed the whole >> that that that changed the whole >> that that that changed the whole trajectory of his life. But he still had trajectory of his life. But he still had trajectory of his life. But he still had to come under anonyas. What people don't to come under anonyas. What people don't to come under anonyas. What people don't realize who was there for him, who laid realize who was there for him, who laid realize who was there for him, who laid hands on him, who guided him, coached hands on him, who guided him, coached hands on him, who guided him, coached him. Are we seeing this? him. Are we seeing this? him. Are we seeing this? >> And so even a man of that stature still. >> And so even a man of that stature still. >> And so even a man of that stature still. So we see this component. And so I think So we see this component. And so I think So we see this component. And so I think what happens sometimes too is many have what happens sometimes too is many have what happens sometimes too is many have I don't deal with the church because of I don't deal with the church because of I don't deal with the church because of this. They've wrote the instit and and this. They've wrote the instit and and this. They've wrote the instit and and let's let's admit there's some funky let's let's admit there's some funky let's let's admit there's some funky stuff that happens in church, stuff that happens in church, stuff that happens in church, >> but but I've heard it said like this, >> but but I've heard it said like this, >> but but I've heard it said like this, you know, um I'm not going to abandon you know, um I'm not going to abandon you know, um I'm not going to abandon >> what others abuse either.

>> what others abuse either. >> what others abuse either. >> I'm not going to abandon what others >> I'm not going to abandon what others >> I'm not going to abandon what others abuse, especially when I know it's God's abuse, especially when I know it's God's abuse, especially when I know it's God's assignment, assignment, assignment, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> The church is not man's idea. The church >> The church is not man's idea. The church >> The church is not man's idea. The church is not the preacher's idea, right? is not the preacher's idea, right? is not the preacher's idea, right? >> The church is Christ, God's idea. Yeah. >> The church is Christ, God's idea. Yeah. >> The church is Christ, God's idea. Yeah. >> So although it has been in some cases we >> So although it has been in some cases we >> So although it has been in some cases we all can admit we see it a method of all can admit we see it a method of all can admit we see it a method of abuse but I'm not going to abandon abuse but I'm not going to abandon abuse but I'm not going to abandon because that is the pathway by which we because that is the pathway by which we because that is the pathway by which we were called to they the scripture says were called to they the scripture says were called to they the scripture says those that are planted in the house of those that are planted in the house of those that are planted in the house of the Lord shall flourish in the courts of the Lord shall flourish in the courts of the Lord shall flourish in the courts of our God. There are some things Paul go our God. There are some things Paul go our God. There are some things Paul go through can can the eye say it doesn't through can can the eye say it doesn't through can can the eye say it doesn't need the nose and we all it talks about need the nose and we all it talks about need the nose and we all it talks about the different body parts how we're the different body parts how we're the different body parts how we're individual but we're all part of the individual but we're all part of the individual but we're all part of the same body and the necessity that matter same body and the necessity that matter same body and the necessity that matter of fact even says every joint supplies of fact even says every joint supplies of fact even says every joint supplies >> not every individual there's a supply of >> not every individual there's a supply of >> not every individual there's a supply of grace there's a supply of strength grace there's a supply of strength grace there's a supply of strength there's a supply of accountability of there's a supply of accountability of there's a supply of accountability of wisdom that comes in our joining what wisdom that comes in our joining what wisdom that comes in our joining what good is a finger without the hand good is a finger without the hand good is a finger without the hand >> what good is the hand without the wrist >> what good is the hand without the wrist >> what good is the hand without the wrist Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. >> What good is the hand and the wrist >> What good is the hand and the wrist >> What good is the hand and the wrist without the arm? without the arm? without the arm? >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> And and how more effective is the arm >> And and how more effective is the arm >> And and how more effective is the arm when it's attached to the shoulder? when it's attached to the shoulder? when it's attached to the shoulder? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> And the shoulder connects it to the >> And the shoulder connects it to the >> And the shoulder connects it to the body. body. body. >> That's it. That's it. >> That's it. That's it. >> That's it. That's it. >> And um and and so think about those >> And um and and so think about those >> And um and and so think about those things. So he gives this picture of the things. So he gives this picture of the things. So he gives this picture of the importance of our connecting in the body importance of our connecting in the body importance of our connecting in the body that this and think about it. that this and think about it. that this and think about it. >> You know as well as I know uh I'll use >> You know as well as I know uh I'll use >> You know as well as I know uh I'll use this example. Let's say one of us bites this example. Let's say one of us bites this example. Let's say one of us bites our tongue right now, our tongue right now, our tongue right now, >> starts bleeding. You know, blood rushes >> starts bleeding. You know, blood rushes >> starts bleeding. You know, blood rushes to that area. Well, that is the body's to that area. Well, that is the body's to that area. Well, that is the body's response to a broken part of it. response to a broken part of it. response to a broken part of it. >> And if you bite your tongue, anybody >> And if you bite your tongue, anybody >> And if you bite your tongue, anybody knows you bite your tongue, you feel it knows you bite your tongue, you feel it knows you bite your tongue, you feel it in your toes. in your toes. in your toes. >> Isn't it funny? You bite your tongue, >> Isn't it funny? You bite your tongue, >> Isn't it funny? You bite your tongue, but you're like, "Oh, but you're like, "Oh, but you're like, "Oh, >> but look what you just all parts of >> but look what you just all parts of >> but look what you just all parts of your, it affected your eyes, your, it affected your eyes, your, it affected your eyes, >> my neck, >> my neck, >> my neck, >> your neck, your nose." >> your neck, your nose." >> your neck, your nose." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> The eye wasn't poked. The nose wasn't >> The eye wasn't poked. The nose wasn't >> The eye wasn't poked. The nose wasn't hit, but the tongue was bit. But when it hit, but the tongue was bit. But when it hit, but the tongue was bit. But when it was bit, it affected all [clears throat] was bit, it affected all [clears throat] was bit, it affected all [clears throat] those other areas. And that's how the those other areas. And that's how the those other areas. And that's how the body works. When one part of us hurt, body works. When one part of us hurt, body works. When one part of us hurt, >> broken, >> broken, >> broken, >> bitten by life, >> bitten by life, >> bitten by life, >> it impacts all of us. And when the blood >> it impacts all of us. And when the blood >> it impacts all of us. And when the blood comes there, it is a sign that every comes there, it is a sign that every comes there, it is a sign that every part the body said rush to that area.

part the body said rush to that area. part the body said rush to that area. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> One of the things you do, your hand will >> One of the things you do, your hand will >> One of the things you do, your hand will go, go, go, >> your lips will close, right? >> your lips will close, right? >> your lips will close, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And you're like, isn't it amazing that >> And you're like, isn't it amazing that >> And you're like, isn't it amazing that it immediately covers the area that's it immediately covers the area that's it immediately covers the area that's broken? broken? broken? Because God designed in the natural at Because God designed in the natural at Because God designed in the natural at the body, God designs that spiritually the body, God designs that spiritually the body, God designs that spiritually so that when someone is attached, so that when someone is attached, so that when someone is attached, >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> See, if that tongue is not attached and >> See, if that tongue is not attached and >> See, if that tongue is not attached and something happens, there's no indication something happens, there's no indication something happens, there's no indication to the rest of it for hell. to the rest of it for hell. to the rest of it for hell. >> So if I try to live a life separated >> So if I try to live a life separated >> So if I try to live a life separated from the body, from the body, from the body, >> you know, you may think that's >> you know, you may think that's >> you know, you may think that's protection, protection, protection, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> But in in reality, it's destruction. >> But in in reality, it's destruction. >> But in in reality, it's destruction. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Because if you remove the finger, it's >> Because if you remove the finger, it's >> Because if you remove the finger, it's only going to last for so long, only going to last for so long, only going to last for so long, >> right? And so, but think about that and >> right? And so, but think about that and >> right? And so, but think about that and that's the beauty that work. So, when that's the beauty that work. So, when that's the beauty that work. So, when there's brokenness, there's a there's brokenness, there's a there's brokenness, there's a misunderstanding. When you're connected, misunderstanding. When you're connected, misunderstanding. When you're connected, the body can run there and cover. Let me the body can run there and cover. Let me the body can run there and cover. Let me help you with that. Let me walk you help you with that. Let me walk you help you with that. Let me walk you through that. Let me navigate. Um, I through that. Let me navigate. Um, I through that. Let me navigate. Um, I guess I guess guess I guess guess I guess >> no, but I think you're hitting it >> no, but I think you're hitting it >> no, but I think you're hitting it because I think that's been one of the because I think that's been one of the because I think that's been one of the strategic plans of the enemy to create strategic plans of the enemy to create strategic plans of the enemy to create in this generation this sense of in this generation this sense of in this generation this sense of isolation. I don't need the church. But isolation. I don't need the church. But isolation. I don't need the church. But again, it goes back to your point of why again, it goes back to your point of why again, it goes back to your point of why we all but why, you know, the young we all but why, you know, the young we all but why, you know, the young adult community needs to be plugged into adult community needs to be plugged into adult community needs to be plugged into a local church, you know, to get a local church, you know, to get a local church, you know, to get accountability, but not just accountability, but not just accountability, but not just accountability, but get the mentorship accountability, but get the mentorship accountability, but get the mentorship to understand the importance of the to understand the importance of the to understand the importance of the body. And and I thought about this, it's body. And and I thought about this, it's body. And and I thought about this, it's like, like, like, >> you know, we can say what we want about >> you know, we can say what we want about >> you know, we can say what we want about the church, but it it what we got to

the church, but it it what we got to the church, but it it what we got to realize is the church has still been realize is the church has still been realize is the church has still been around for a thousand years, and it's O around for a thousand years, and it's O around for a thousand years, and it's O plus and it's still relevant. it it will plus and it's still relevant. it it will plus and it's still relevant. it it will always be relevant. always be relevant. always be relevant. >> That's what I'm >> That's what I'm >> That's what I'm >> Jesus said upon this rock >> Jesus said upon this rock >> Jesus said upon this rock >> I will build my church and the gates of >> I will build my church and the gates of >> I will build my church and the gates of hell will not prevail. The church will hell will not prevail. The church will hell will not prevail. The church will be here until Jesus comes. be here until Jesus comes. be here until Jesus comes. >> I think so many young adults need to >> I think so many young adults need to >> I think so many young adults need to know that even in its perfection, God's know that even in its perfection, God's know that even in its perfection, God's plan and purpose for the body will be plan and purpose for the body will be plan and purpose for the body will be fulfilled. fulfilled. fulfilled. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Period. Yes. >> Period. Yes. >> Period. Yes. >> It's just a a matter of if you going to >> It's just a a matter of if you going to >> It's just a a matter of if you going to be a part of it or not. Here's the other be a part of it or not. Here's the other be a part of it or not. Here's the other part about it that part about it that part about it that >> it hit me as you were talking. It's like >> it hit me as you were talking. It's like >> it hit me as you were talking. It's like who was Paul's letters to? [laughter] who was Paul's letters to? [laughter] who was Paul's letters to? [laughter] >> The church. I if to to eliminate the >> The church. I if to to eliminate the >> The church. I if to to eliminate the church out of a Christian faith, you church out of a Christian faith, you church out of a Christian faith, you have to remove twothirds of the New have to remove twothirds of the New have to remove twothirds of the New Testament. Testament. Testament. >> But that's what I'm So we under we got >> But that's what I'm So we under we got >> But that's what I'm So we under we got to understand but to understand but to understand but >> no and even the book of Acts. >> no and even the book of Acts. >> no and even the book of Acts. >> Yeah. Well, the church. >> Yeah. Well, the church. >> Yeah. Well, the church. >> Well, don't talk about the Holy Spirit >> Well, don't talk about the Holy Spirit >> Well, don't talk about the Holy Spirit if you don't want to talk about the if you don't want to talk about the if you don't want to talk about the church. church. church. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I mean, you to to eliminate that, you're >> I mean, you to to eliminate that, you're >> I mean, you to to eliminate that, you're eliminating, you know.

eliminating, you know. eliminating, you know. >> Yeah. I mean, >> Yeah. I mean, >> Yeah. I mean, >> but that but to that point the even >> but that but to that point the even >> but that but to that point the even understanding the letters in context of understanding the letters in context of understanding the letters in context of there were challenges and difficulties there were challenges and difficulties there were challenges and difficulties that Paul had to address that Paul had to address that Paul had to address >> from Corinthians, sexual immorality. >> from Corinthians, sexual immorality. >> from Corinthians, sexual immorality. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> You know, just some ratchetness, you >> You know, just some ratchetness, you >> You know, just some ratchetness, you know, other things where they were not know, other things where they were not know, other things where they were not stewarding the gift. You look at uh the stewarding the gift. You look at uh the stewarding the gift. You look at uh the church of Galatia, they were having a church of Galatia, they were having a church of Galatia, they were having a hard time navigating this idea of flesh hard time navigating this idea of flesh hard time navigating this idea of flesh and spirit and they were getting it and spirit and they were getting it and spirit and they were getting it confused and you can go and body and confused and you can go and body and confused and you can go and body and everything. You see, but you talked everything. You see, but you talked everything. You see, but you talked about Ephesus. They were struggling with about Ephesus. They were struggling with about Ephesus. They were struggling with this idea of spiritual maturity and he this idea of spiritual maturity and he this idea of spiritual maturity and he was pushing them to go a little further was pushing them to go a little further was pushing them to go a little further in their faith and trust the Holy Spirit in their faith and trust the Holy Spirit in their faith and trust the Holy Spirit and be a prayerfilled church. So all and be a prayerfilled church. So all and be a prayerfilled church. So all these things is just a a a picture of these things is just a a a picture of these things is just a a a picture of people understanding we're not supposed people understanding we're not supposed people understanding we're not supposed to do away with the church. We're to do away with the church. We're to do away with the church. We're supposed to be a conduit that God can supposed to be a conduit that God can supposed to be a conduit that God can use to facilitate where the church needs use to facilitate where the church needs use to facilitate where the church needs to be and where God's taken the church. to be and where God's taken the church. to be and where God's taken the church. >> Yes. You know, but I think so many young >> Yes. You know, but I think so many young >> Yes. You know, but I think so many young adults need to understand that that adults need to understand that that adults need to understand that that don't allow the enemy to trick you into don't allow the enemy to trick you into don't allow the enemy to trick you into thinking that the church isn't a thinking that the church isn't a thinking that the church isn't a important dynamic to the faith and the important dynamic to the faith and the important dynamic to the faith and the kingdom. It is and it's important that kingdom. It is and it's important that kingdom. It is and it's important that you become a part of it because even you become a part of it because even you become a part of it because even outside of our role with the church, I outside of our role with the church, I outside of our role with the church, I believe the church and community is a believe the church and community is a believe the church and community is a place for people to kind of have a place for people to kind of have a place for people to kind of have a awareness of where they are. Because I awareness of where they are. Because I awareness of where they are. Because I thought about this. If you're isolated thought about this. If you're isolated thought about this. If you're isolated and by yourself, it's easy to think and by yourself, it's easy to think and by yourself, it's easy to think you're loving, kind when you're by you're loving, kind when you're by you're loving, kind when you're by yourself. But when you get in community yourself. But when you get in community yourself. But when you get in community and you're having to live in the tension and you're having to live in the tension and you're having to live in the tension of navigating other personalities, we'll

of navigating other personalities, we'll of navigating other personalities, we'll we'll we'll learn a lot about how loving we'll we'll learn a lot about how loving we'll we'll learn a lot about how loving and kind and and gentle and faithful we and kind and and gentle and faithful we and kind and and gentle and faithful we are, are, are, >> right? >> right? >> right? >> You don't know you're if you're lovable >> You don't know you're if you're lovable >> You don't know you're if you're lovable until you have to deal with the until you have to deal with the until you have to deal with the unlovable. [laughter] unlovable. [laughter] unlovable. [laughter] You know what I'm saying? It it's easy. You know what I'm saying? It it's easy. You know what I'm saying? It it's easy. Well, well, let's let's you said Well, well, let's let's you said Well, well, let's let's you said something. You you said it several something. You you said it several something. You you said it several times. The isolation factor. times. The isolation factor. times. The isolation factor. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Even that mindset alone is I I don't I >> Even that mindset alone is I I don't I >> Even that mindset alone is I I don't I don't need anybody. Is you know this. don't need anybody. Is you know this. don't need anybody. Is you know this. Think about it this way. It's just me Think about it this way. It's just me Think about it this way. It's just me and God. I'm good. I have my walk with and God. I'm good. I have my walk with and God. I'm good. I have my walk with God. I have my relationship with God. God. I have my relationship with God. God. I have my relationship with God. God. Okay. Well, let's go back to the God. Okay. Well, let's go back to the God. Okay. Well, let's go back to the beginning. beginning. beginning. >> When God looked at Adam and said, "It is >> When God looked at Adam and said, "It is >> When God looked at Adam and said, "It is not good for man to be alone." That was not good for man to be alone." That was not good for man to be alone." That was not just written in the context of not just written in the context of not just written in the context of marriage, marriage, marriage, >> right? It was written in the context of >> right? It was written in the context of >> right? It was written in the context of relationship. relationship. relationship. >> Y'all hear that? Y'all hear that? >> Y'all hear that? Y'all hear that? >> Y'all hear that? Y'all hear that? >> It's not just marriage. It was written >> It's not just marriage. It was written >> It's not just marriage. It was written in the context of relationship and in the context of relationship and in the context of relationship and fellowship. Coinia is what the the Bible fellowship. Coinia is what the the Bible fellowship. Coinia is what the the Bible calls it. calls it. calls it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Let let's look at it. Let's so we see, >> Let let's look at it. Let's so we see, >> Let let's look at it. Let's so we see, you know, a a principle mentioned in you know, a a principle mentioned in you know, a a principle mentioned in Genesis in theological terms. Sometimes Genesis in theological terms. Sometimes Genesis in theological terms. Sometimes they call it the law first mentioned.

they call it the law first mentioned. they call it the law first mentioned. Where's it first mentioned? Where's it first mentioned? Where's it first mentioned? >> So let's look at it. Let's look at >> So let's look at it. Let's look at >> So let's look at it. Let's look at throughout scripture. throughout scripture. throughout scripture. >> Jesus sent the disciples out. How many? >> Jesus sent the disciples out. How many? >> Jesus sent the disciples out. How many? >> Two. >> Two. >> Two. >> Two. Like you had Joshua and Moses, >> Two. Like you had Joshua and Moses, >> Two. Like you had Joshua and Moses, Elijah and Elisha. We can keep going. Elijah and Elisha. We can keep going. Elijah and Elisha. We can keep going. All these pairs all throughout. We can All these pairs all throughout. We can All these pairs all throughout. We can come over to even Ecclesiastes. It said come over to even Ecclesiastes. It said come over to even Ecclesiastes. It said two are better than one. two are better than one. two are better than one. >> Woe unto him who falls down and have no >> Woe unto him who falls down and have no >> Woe unto him who falls down and have no man to pick him up. Now the woe was not man to pick him up. Now the woe was not man to pick him up. Now the woe was not that they had fallen. that they had fallen. that they had fallen. >> The woe was how do you fall and there's >> The woe was how do you fall and there's >> The woe was how do you fall and there's nobody in your life? nobody in your life? nobody in your life? >> The woe is that you nobody's in your >> The woe is that you nobody's in your >> The woe is that you nobody's in your life life life >> to help you when you fall. Yeah, >> to help you when you fall. Yeah, >> to help you when you fall. Yeah, >> because the Bible says a righteous man >> because the Bible says a righteous man >> because the Bible says a righteous man falls down several times, but he gets falls down several times, but he gets falls down several times, but he gets back up again. So the woe is not to the back up again. So the woe is not to the back up again. So the woe is not to the fall. The woe is not having anybody in fall. The woe is not having anybody in fall. The woe is not having anybody in your life. your life. your life. >> To be there if you fall. >> To be there if you fall. >> To be there if you fall. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And so let's talk. You said isolation >> And so let's talk. You said isolation >> And so let's talk. You said isolation >> because that's a strategy of the enemy. >> because that's a strategy of the enemy. >> because that's a strategy of the enemy. >> We see that in scripture. >> We see that in scripture. >> We see that in scripture. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> See, we talked about Elijah and Elisha, >> See, we talked about Elijah and Elisha, >> See, we talked about Elijah and Elisha, but he was actually Elijah was in but he was actually Elijah was in but he was actually Elijah was in isolation. That's when he felt like his isolation. That's when he felt like his isolation. That's when he felt like his words were, "I only words were, "I only words were, "I only >> I'm the only one that's living right.

>> I'm the only one that's living right. >> I'm the only one that's living right. I'm the only one that's doing this." And I'm the only one that's doing this." And I'm the only one that's doing this." And and God actually said, "No, no, no. and God actually said, "No, no, no. and God actually said, "No, no, no. >> I preserved a whole remnant of prophets. >> I preserved a whole remnant of prophets. >> I preserved a whole remnant of prophets. You're not the only one. You're not the only one. You're not the only one. >> But that is a strategy of the enemy to a >> But that is a strategy of the enemy to a >> But that is a strategy of the enemy to a young generation and young adult. You're young generation and young adult. You're young generation and young adult. You're the only one. Let's let's look at it. the only one. Let's let's look at it. the only one. Let's let's look at it. You're the only one struggling with You're the only one struggling with You're the only one struggling with this. this. this. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You're the only one dealing with this. >> You're the only one dealing with this. >> You're the only one dealing with this. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You're the only one that sees this in >> You're the only one that sees this in >> You're the only one that sees this in your home. You're the only one. You're your home. You're the only one. You're your home. You're the only one. You're the only one. You're the only one. Are the only one. You're the only one. Are the only one. You're the only one. Are you following me? M you following me? M you following me? M >> here it is. There's isolation, >> here it is. There's isolation, >> here it is. There's isolation, but it's different than solitude. but it's different than solitude. but it's different than solitude. >> The enemy uses isolation for >> The enemy uses isolation for >> The enemy uses isolation for destruction. destruction. destruction. >> God used solitude for preparation. >> God used solitude for preparation. >> God used solitude for preparation. >> There's a difference. The enemy wants to >> There's a difference. The enemy wants to >> There's a difference. The enemy wants to isolate you and separate you from the isolate you and separate you from the isolate you and separate you from the source and the things of that which is source and the things of that which is source and the things of that which is able to make you better. able to make you better. able to make you better. >> But solitude, yes, you're both by >> But solitude, yes, you're both by >> But solitude, yes, you're both by yourself. yourself. yourself. >> Yeah. But the purpose is different. One >> Yeah. But the purpose is different. One >> Yeah. But the purpose is different. One is trying to take you down and the other is trying to take you down and the other is trying to take you down and the other one is trying to raise you up. one is trying to raise you up. one is trying to raise you up. >> Come on, man. >> Come on, man. >> Come on, man. >> And so what we got to see is the >> And so what we got to see is the >> And so what we got to see is the negative in isolation.

negative in isolation. negative in isolation. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Because God has so designed this. You >> Because God has so designed this. You >> Because God has so designed this. You will never be reach your full potential will never be reach your full potential will never be reach your full potential by yourself. by yourself. by yourself. >> Let's look at it. Okay. Let's look at it >> Let's look at it. Okay. Let's look at it >> Let's look at it. Okay. Let's look at it marily or relationally. We're going to marily or relationally. We're going to marily or relationally. We're going to say marily on young adults because when say marily on young adults because when say marily on young adults because when Adam, you know, and Eve came together, Adam, you know, and Eve came together, Adam, you know, and Eve came together, they conceived. What was he said? be they conceived. What was he said? be they conceived. What was he said? be fruitful and multiply fruitful and multiply fruitful and multiply >> to them >> to them >> to them >> to be productive in life to to >> to be productive in life to to >> to be productive in life to to reproduce. He even said go out and make reproduce. He even said go out and make reproduce. He even said go out and make other disciples. Yeah. other disciples. Yeah. other disciples. Yeah. >> You can't make disciples by yourself. >> You can't make disciples by yourself. >> You can't make disciples by yourself. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> So So this principle we can go here all >> So So this principle we can go here all >> So So this principle we can go here all day. It's all throughout scripture of day. It's all throughout scripture of day. It's all throughout scripture of having to you will not be the best having to you will not be the best having to you will not be the best version of you by yourself. Right. version of you by yourself. Right. version of you by yourself. Right. >> Think about that. So you hear things I'm >> Think about that. So you hear things I'm >> Think about that. So you hear things I'm a self-made millionaire. That's a lie. a self-made millionaire. That's a lie. a self-made millionaire. That's a lie. >> Yeah. He himself made nothing. Yeah. >> Yeah. He himself made nothing. Yeah. >> Yeah. He himself made nothing. Yeah. Whose air you breathing Whose air you breathing Whose air you breathing >> that's not yours. >> that's not yours. >> that's not yours. >> Whose whose land are you standing on? >> Whose whose land are you standing on? >> Whose whose land are you standing on? Someone had to buy your product. Someone had to buy your product. Someone had to buy your product. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And so this mindset about I'm a self >> And so this mindset about I'm a self >> And so this mindset about I'm a self this this this needs needs needs in their life. I got to tap on this and in their life. I got to tap on this and in their life. I got to tap on this and we won't stay too long on this but like we won't stay too long on this but like we won't stay too long on this but like you use the phrasing self-made because you use the phrasing self-made because you use the phrasing self-made because one of the things that we're seeing is one of the things that we're seeing is one of the things that we're seeing is this self-proclaiming this self-proclaiming this self-proclaiming of the five-fold ministry people of the five-fold ministry people of the five-fold ministry people self-proclaiming well I'm pastor so and self-proclaiming well I'm pastor so and self-proclaiming well I'm pastor so and so self-proclaiming I'm prophet so and so self-proclaiming I'm prophet so and so self-proclaiming I'm prophet so and so and again I'm not here to say who's so and again I'm not here to say who's so and again I'm not here to say who's it or not but the question that I ask is it or not but the question that I ask is it or not but the question that I ask is who gave you that mantle who gave you that mantle who gave you that mantle >> absolutely >> absolutely >> absolutely >> who's your pastor

>> who's your pastor >> who's your pastor >> yes Who's your covering? Can you touch >> yes Who's your covering? Can you touch >> yes Who's your covering? Can you touch on that? Because I think it's important on that? Because I think it's important on that? Because I think it's important that as people feel a tug to ministry, that as people feel a tug to ministry, that as people feel a tug to ministry, like we both have a journey of like, you like we both have a journey of like, you like we both have a journey of like, you know, a call, a pull, but we didn't call know, a call, a pull, but we didn't call know, a call, a pull, but we didn't call ourselves. We were legit called. I I was ourselves. We were legit called. I I was ourselves. We were legit called. I I was literally brought into an office and had literally brought into an office and had literally brought into an office and had a conversation through disciplehip and a a conversation through disciplehip and a a conversation through disciplehip and a journey of being called a pastor. journey of being called a pastor. journey of being called a pastor. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> I didn't I didn't just wake up one day, >> I didn't I didn't just wake up one day, >> I didn't I didn't just wake up one day, you know what? you know what? you know what? >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. >> I'm a pastor today. You know, you know, >> I'm a pastor today. You know, you know, >> I'm a pastor today. You know, you know, I'm going to go to Free Chapel. Hey, I'm going to go to Free Chapel. Hey, I'm going to go to Free Chapel. Hey, Pastor Jensen, I'm I'm going to be a Pastor Jensen, I'm I'm going to be a Pastor Jensen, I'm I'm going to be a pastor on your on your staff. Like, pastor on your on your staff. Like, pastor on your on your staff. Like, that's not how it works. But can you that's not how it works. But can you that's not how it works. But can you help young adults who are navigating help young adults who are navigating help young adults who are navigating that space where they may feel called that space where they may feel called that space where they may feel called and tell them the importance of having a and tell them the importance of having a and tell them the importance of having a covering and having the Lord guide them covering and having the Lord guide them covering and having the Lord guide them in that sort of position? in that sort of position? in that sort of position? >> Yeah, it's it it is so important. >> Yeah, it's it it is so important. >> Yeah, it's it it is so important. Let's look at it scripturally. Paul was Let's look at it scripturally. Paul was Let's look at it scripturally. Paul was a covering to Timothy and to Titus. He a covering to Timothy and to Titus. He a covering to Timothy and to Titus. He actually refers to them as my sons in actually refers to them as my sons in actually refers to them as my sons in the faith. the faith. the faith. >> Now, when you look at that, he he's >> Now, when you look at that, he he's >> Now, when you look at that, he he's their spiritual father. You speak of their spiritual father. You speak of their spiritual father. You speak of that. He covered them. He taught them.

that. He covered them. He taught them. that. He covered them. He taught them. You you see the letters wrote to them. You you see the letters wrote to them. You you see the letters wrote to them. It's a covering. It's a protection. And It's a covering. It's a protection. And It's a covering. It's a protection. And if you read Timothy's letters, it's Paul if you read Timothy's letters, it's Paul if you read Timothy's letters, it's Paul to Timothy coaching him on how to to Timothy coaching him on how to to Timothy coaching him on how to pastor. pastor. pastor. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, you you see what I'm saying? How to >> So, you you see what I'm saying? How to >> So, you you see what I'm saying? How to navigate life in situations. And so, navigate life in situations. And so, navigate life in situations. And so, here's my rule of thumb. here's my rule of thumb. here's my rule of thumb. You can't tell me about accountability You can't tell me about accountability You can't tell me about accountability if you're not accountable. if you're not accountable. if you're not accountable. >> You can't cover me if you're not >> You can't cover me if you're not >> You can't cover me if you're not covered. covered. covered. >> So, that's one of the first questions >> So, that's one of the first questions >> So, that's one of the first questions I'm asked. Who's your covering? Who's I'm asked. Who's your covering? Who's I'm asked. Who's your covering? Who's your pastor? Who are you accountable to? your pastor? Who are you accountable to? your pastor? Who are you accountable to? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Self-appointed. And we see and I think >> Self-appointed. And we see and I think >> Self-appointed. And we see and I think some of that is often times rooted that some of that is often times rooted that some of that is often times rooted that some, not all. I don't want to some, not all. I don't want to some, not all. I don't want to generalize it generalize it generalize it >> have associated titles with some sort of >> have associated titles with some sort of >> have associated titles with some sort of lifestyle and not understood the weight lifestyle and not understood the weight lifestyle and not understood the weight of the calling that comes with it. and of the calling that comes with it. and of the calling that comes with it. and and and and the grace that is needed to and and and the grace that is needed to and and and the grace that is needed to truly fulfill it. truly fulfill it. truly fulfill it. >> Yes. >> Are are you following me? >> Are are you following me? >> Yes sir. >> Yes sir. >> Yes sir. >> Be be >> Be be >> Be be >> because you can self you know I think >> because you can self you know I think >> because you can self you know I think about that scripture it talks about about that scripture it talks about about that scripture it talks about where Jesus said um on that day um many where Jesus said um on that day um many where Jesus said um on that day um many will say have I not done this in your will say have I not done this in your will say have I not done this in your name? Have I not preached in your name?

name? Have I not preached in your name? name? Have I not preached in your name? Have he said depart from me you work of Have he said depart from me you work of Have he said depart from me you work of iniquity. I never knew you. And is it iniquity. I never knew you. And is it iniquity. I never knew you. And is it possible that you are are are running up possible that you are are are running up possible that you are are are running up a tab and expecting Jesus to pay it when a tab and expecting Jesus to pay it when a tab and expecting Jesus to pay it when he didn't order it? he didn't order it? he didn't order it? >> And so I have to be careful because all >> And so I have to be careful because all >> And so I have to be careful because all of us will be held of accountable. It's of us will be held of accountable. It's of us will be held of accountable. It's a scary thing to assume a title that you a scary thing to assume a title that you a scary thing to assume a title that you weren't called into and you weren't weren't called into and you weren't weren't called into and you weren't affirmed in. I didn't ask for this. affirmed in. I didn't ask for this. affirmed in. I didn't ask for this. >> My my desire was to stay in the >> My my desire was to stay in the >> My my desire was to stay in the corporate world corporate world corporate world >> and to pursue >> and to pursue >> and to pursue >> Yeah. the the corporate standing, but >> Yeah. the the corporate standing, but >> Yeah. the the corporate standing, but God called me and and and and I fought God called me and and and and I fought God called me and and and and I fought it. it. it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I wasn't like, "Yes." And here's the >> I wasn't like, "Yes." And here's the >> I wasn't like, "Yes." And here's the thing with me. I my testimony was I thing with me. I my testimony was I thing with me. I my testimony was I loved my job. loved my job. loved my job. >> Some people's like, "I was miserable. I >> Some people's like, "I was miserable. I >> Some people's like, "I was miserable. I wasn't on the back side of the desert wasn't on the back side of the desert wasn't on the back side of the desert like Moses. like Moses. like Moses. >> I loved what I do. I was going back to >> I loved what I do. I was going back to >> I loved what I do. I was going back to school for what I did. I was one." And school for what I did. I was one." And school for what I did. I was one." And God said, "I'll never forget, you're God said, "I'll never forget, you're God said, "I'll never forget, you're going from a career to a calling." Sh. going from a career to a calling." Sh. going from a career to a calling." Sh. >> And and and to be honest, I was a little >> And and and to be honest, I was a little >> And and and to be honest, I was a little sad initially.

sad initially. sad initially. because I was thinking on a natural because I was thinking on a natural because I was thinking on a natural perspective of what I'm about to lose. perspective of what I'm about to lose. perspective of what I'm about to lose. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But what I didn't know in that moment, >> But what I didn't know in that moment, >> But what I didn't know in that moment, what I was about to gain. what I was about to gain. what I was about to gain. >> That's good. >> That's good. >> That's good. >> And so when you talk about feeling >> And so when you talk about feeling >> And so when you talk about feeling called, called, called, >> you have to understand the magnitude of >> you have to understand the magnitude of >> you have to understand the magnitude of that. that. that. >> Some people Oh, God. Can I talk about it >> Some people Oh, God. Can I talk about it >> Some people Oh, God. Can I talk about it real quick? Some people when they say, real quick? Some people when they say, real quick? Some people when they say, "I'm called," what does that mean to "I'm called," what does that mean to "I'm called," what does that mean to you? So that's the question I got. Tell you? So that's the question I got. Tell you? So that's the question I got. Tell me what being called means to you. me what being called means to you. me what being called means to you. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Because some people say, "I'm called >> Because some people say, "I'm called >> Because some people say, "I'm called because they just want to be on a because they just want to be on a because they just want to be on a stage." stage." stage." >> Yeah. They just want the light >> Yeah. They just want the light >> Yeah. They just want the light >> because you think it comes with some >> because you think it comes with some >> because you think it comes with some sort of trinkets or or all this sort of trinkets or or all this sort of trinkets or or all this prestigious lifestyle. But when you're prestigious lifestyle. But when you're prestigious lifestyle. But when you're really called >> and God calls you to this, >> and God calls you to this, >> there are things you walk through. There >> there are things you walk through. There >> there are things you walk through. There are seasons. There's a level of are seasons. There's a level of are seasons. There's a level of opposition. just this the reality of it opposition. just this the reality of it opposition. just this the reality of it that nobody [clears throat] that nobody [clears throat] that nobody [clears throat] the of of of of spiritual opposition the of of of of spiritual opposition the of of of of spiritual opposition that you have to walk through that you that you have to walk through that you that you have to walk through that you have to navigate and listen if you don't have to navigate and listen if you don't have to navigate and listen if you don't have the grace for it will consume you have the grace for it will consume you have the grace for it will consume you it will chew you up and spit you out and it will chew you up and spit you out and it will chew you up and spit you out and you have to know that this is not a I'm you have to know that this is not a I'm you have to know that this is not a I'm going down a sheet and and and just going down a sheet and and and just going down a sheet and and and just selecting a career path or something.

selecting a career path or something. selecting a career path or something. No, no, no, no. When when God calls you, No, no, no, no. When when God calls you, No, no, no, no. When when God calls you, we heard it said like this. He he he he we heard it said like this. He he he he we heard it said like this. He he he he c whoever he he calls he equips. c whoever he he calls he equips. c whoever he he calls he equips. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And if it's just like this, if you go >> And if it's just like this, if you go >> And if it's just like this, if you go into war without the proper equipment, into war without the proper equipment, into war without the proper equipment, >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> you will fail. >> you will fail. >> you will fail. >> And the fear I get is people saying, >> And the fear I get is people saying, >> And the fear I get is people saying, "I'm called." "I'm called." "I'm called." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But they're truly not called and >> But they're truly not called and >> But they're truly not called and equipped. Not because you can speak, equipped. Not because you can speak, equipped. Not because you can speak, that doesn't mean you're always called, that doesn't mean you're always called, that doesn't mean you're always called, especially to full-time ministry. especially to full-time ministry. especially to full-time ministry. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> Especially to platform ministry. That's >> Especially to platform ministry. That's >> Especially to platform ministry. That's right. And I think Oh, God. Pastor, this right. And I think Oh, God. Pastor, this right. And I think Oh, God. Pastor, this is the issue because we got to be is the issue because we got to be is the issue because we got to be careful that we have not made calling careful that we have not made calling careful that we have not made calling about being on a stage at church. about being on a stage at church. about being on a stage at church. >> But that's my point and kind of where we >> But that's my point and kind of where we >> But that's my point and kind of where we landed to organically is that through landed to organically is that through landed to organically is that through social media, people have deemed a social media, people have deemed a social media, people have deemed a calling or just kind of ministry to be calling or just kind of ministry to be calling or just kind of ministry to be this influence. And I'm like, no, no. this influence. And I'm like, no, no. this influence. And I'm like, no, no. Because like you said, a calling comes Because like you said, a calling comes Because like you said, a calling comes with something. And a lot of times that with something. And a lot of times that with something. And a lot of times that calling comes with a cost.

calling comes with a cost. calling comes with a cost. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That some people aren't willing to pay. >> That some people aren't willing to pay. >> That some people aren't willing to pay. People see you and they see Pastor People see you and they see Pastor People see you and they see Pastor Jensen and they think, "Oh man, that's Jensen and they think, "Oh man, that's Jensen and they think, "Oh man, that's cool or I want to do that." But we're cool or I want to do that." But we're cool or I want to do that." But we're all called to a degree to, you know, all called to a degree to, you know, all called to a degree to, you know, spread the gospel and go to the nations spread the gospel and go to the nations spread the gospel and go to the nations and things of that nature. But and things of that nature. But and things of that nature. But understanding that like this understanding that like this understanding that like this Christianity isn't just about influence. Christianity isn't just about influence. Christianity isn't just about influence. It's about your character and your walk It's about your character and your walk It's about your character and your walk with Christ. And young adults need to with Christ. And young adults need to with Christ. And young adults need to understand. I think about Bailey uh understand. I think about Bailey uh understand. I think about Bailey uh O'Brien, one of our hosts. Um, she said O'Brien, one of our hosts. Um, she said O'Brien, one of our hosts. Um, she said that she preached at one of our last that she preached at one of our last that she preached at one of our last young adults some time ago and I mean young adults some time ago and I mean young adults some time ago and I mean with tears in her eyes, Pastor Javon, with tears in her eyes, Pastor Javon, with tears in her eyes, Pastor Javon, she said, "Pastor Aaron, I wish people she said, "Pastor Aaron, I wish people she said, "Pastor Aaron, I wish people could understand the weight of could understand the weight of could understand the weight of preaching." And she said, "I was honored preaching." And she said, "I was honored preaching." And she said, "I was honored to do it. I love that I know God moved, to do it. I love that I know God moved, to do it. I love that I know God moved, which he did, but she goes, the which he did, but she goes, the which he did, but she goes, the spiritual warfare that happened on the spiritual warfare that happened on the spiritual warfare that happened on the front end and even back end, I wouldn't front end and even back end, I wouldn't front end and even back end, I wouldn't wish that on anybody." And that's what wish that on anybody." And that's what wish that on anybody." And that's what people need to know why you need like people need to know why you need like people need to know why you need like covering and disciplehip for those covering and disciplehip for those covering and disciplehip for those moments. Can I put it in simplest terms? moments. Can I put it in simplest terms? moments. Can I put it in simplest terms? >> The first calling that we all have, I >> The first calling that we all have, I >> The first calling that we all have, I think it's in the book of Mark. The think it's in the book of Mark. The think it's in the book of Mark. The Bible said that he called, watch this, Bible said that he called, watch this, Bible said that he called, watch this, the disciples to himself.

the disciples to himself. the disciples to himself. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And then he sent them to the people. >> Some people are going to them. >> Some people are going to them. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But they're not going to him. Yeah. >> But they're not going to him. Yeah. >> But they're not going to him. Yeah. >> Your first calling is to him. >> Your first calling is to him. >> Your first calling is to him. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And if you're more enthused about going >> And if you're more enthused about going >> And if you're more enthused about going to them, to them, to them, >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> than you are going to him, I question >> than you are going to him, I question >> than you are going to him, I question your calling. your calling. your calling. >> Because at the root of all this >> Because at the root of all this >> Because at the root of all this >> away from me. I know what I'm called to >> away from me. I know what I'm called to >> away from me. I know what I'm called to do. do. do. >> But my first calling is not to be a >> But my first calling is not to be a >> But my first calling is not to be a better preacher better preacher better preacher >> or better pastor. My first calling is to >> or better pastor. My first calling is to >> or better pastor. My first calling is to be a better believer. be a better believer. be a better believer. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> That's why he saidf follow me >> That's why he saidf follow me >> That's why he saidf follow me >> and I'll make you a disciple of them. >> and I'll make you a disciple of them. >> and I'll make you a disciple of them. >> So my first calling is being made >> So my first calling is being made >> So my first calling is being made >> to follow him. >> to follow him. >> to follow him. >> And then I'm sent. >> And then I'm sent. >> And then I'm sent. >> Everybody want to go. Nobody wants to be >> Everybody want to go. Nobody wants to be >> Everybody want to go. Nobody wants to be made. made. made. >> Are are you following me? Because that >> Are are you following me? Because that >> Are are you following me? Because that requires molding. requires molding. requires molding. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Shaping. Yeah.

>> Shaping. Yeah. >> Shaping. Yeah. >> Character, integrity, honesty, >> Character, integrity, honesty, >> Character, integrity, honesty, vulnerability, trust. Like the Apostle vulnerability, trust. Like the Apostle vulnerability, trust. Like the Apostle Paul when he said to Timothy, he said, Paul when he said to Timothy, he said, Paul when he said to Timothy, he said, listen to these words. He says, "These listen to these words. He says, "These listen to these words. He says, "These things that you have learned of me and things that you have learned of me and things that you have learned of me and heard me teach, here it is, commit heard me teach, here it is, commit heard me teach, here it is, commit these, these, these, >> here's the word, to those who are >> here's the word, to those who are >> here's the word, to those who are faithful." faithful." faithful." >> And then it says, "And able to teach." >> And then it says, "And able to teach." >> And then it says, "And able to teach." >> Do you see what Paul said? >> Do you see what Paul said? >> Do you see what Paul said? >> He didn't say committed to those that >> He didn't say committed to those that >> He didn't say committed to those that can teach. He gave an order, can teach. He gave an order, can teach. He gave an order, faithfulness, and then ability. faithfulness, and then ability. faithfulness, and then ability. And if we're not careful, we get caught And if we're not careful, we get caught And if we're not careful, we get caught on ability. on ability. on ability. >> And we, well, I'm going to go ahead and >> And we, well, I'm going to go ahead and >> And we, well, I'm going to go ahead and say it. We promote ability quick. We put say it. We promote ability quick. We put say it. We promote ability quick. We put ability on the stage quick. We put ability on the stage quick. We put ability on the stage quick. We put ability in positions quick. And oh, ability in positions quick. And oh, ability in positions quick. And oh, they're a good speaker. Oh, they're they're a good speaker. Oh, they're they're a good speaker. Oh, they're sharp. They look good. They good. That's sharp. They look good. They good. That's sharp. They look good. They good. That's great. great. great. >> That's ability. >> That's ability. >> That's ability. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> But but but if you don't have the >> But but but if you don't have the >> But but but if you don't have the character to sustain that, and then I character to sustain that, and then I character to sustain that, and then I want to know how you act after you get want to know how you act after you get want to know how you act after you get off the stage. I want to see your DMs.

off the stage. I want to see your DMs. off the stage. I want to see your DMs. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> I let me go through your phone freely >> I let me go through your phone freely >> I let me go through your phone freely and you not be ashamed that I look and you not be ashamed that I look and you not be ashamed that I look anything. Can I get your phone? anything. Can I get your phone? anything. Can I get your phone? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And you don't care who looks at it. >> And you don't care who looks at it. >> And you don't care who looks at it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I'm not bragging. My kids know my >> And I'm not bragging. My kids know my >> And I'm not bragging. My kids know my kids have all my passwords to kids have all my passwords to kids have all my passwords to everything. My wife got it. Nothing. everything. My wife got it. Nothing. everything. My wife got it. Nothing. They know it. They pick up my iPad. I'm They know it. They pick up my iPad. I'm They know it. They pick up my iPad. I'm like it's like I was like, "Here, take like it's like I was like, "Here, take like it's like I was like, "Here, take my phone. They can look all the way my phone. They can look all the way my phone. They can look all the way through it." through it." through it." >> I be sometimes showing somebody on my >> I be sometimes showing somebody on my >> I be sometimes showing somebody on my phone and they just see a bunch of phone and they just see a bunch of phone and they just see a bunch of pictures of my kids in their face. pictures of my kids in their face. pictures of my kids in their face. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> Yeah. And but but that's my point. >> Yeah. And but but that's my point. >> Yeah. And but but that's my point. >> Yeah. So, so we got to act like like we >> Yeah. So, so we got to act like like we >> Yeah. So, so we got to act like like we got to be careful with that part of it. got to be careful with that part of it. got to be careful with that part of it. When when you think about that, it it's When when you think about that, it it's When when you think about that, it it's just like commit these things to just like commit these things to just like commit these things to faithful men that are able. Now, you can faithful men that are able. Now, you can faithful men that are able. Now, you can have both. I don't say it has to be have both. I don't say it has to be have both. I don't say it has to be either or, either or, either or, >> but but faith because here's this >> but but faith because here's this >> but but faith because here's this ability has to do with gift and talent. ability has to do with gift and talent. ability has to do with gift and talent. >> Faithfulness has to do with heart and >> Faithfulness has to do with heart and >> Faithfulness has to do with heart and spirit. spirit. spirit. >> And that's what God is going to What did >> And that's what God is going to What did >> And that's what God is going to What did he say about David? he say about David? he say about David? I found me a man I found me a man I found me a man >> after my own heart. Here's the thing. He >> after my own heart. Here's the thing. He >> after my own heart. Here's the thing. He wasn't a perfect man.

wasn't a perfect man. wasn't a perfect man. >> We know that. He was not a perfect man. >> We know that. He was not a perfect man. >> We know that. He was not a perfect man. He He did crazy stuff. But he had the He He did crazy stuff. But he had the He He did crazy stuff. But he had the heart. heart. heart. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That knew how to repent, who constantly >> That knew how to repent, who constantly >> That knew how to repent, who constantly stayed vulnerable. stayed vulnerable. stayed vulnerable. >> Yeah. He was a surrender, >> Yeah. He was a surrender, >> Yeah. He was a surrender, >> transparent, and surrendered to God. So >> transparent, and surrendered to God. So >> transparent, and surrendered to God. So God's not after perfection, but he is God's not after perfection, but he is God's not after perfection, but he is after authenticity. after authenticity. after authenticity. >> Yeah. And that's the thing. >> Yeah. And that's the thing. >> Yeah. And that's the thing. >> But but but but we live in a time >> But but but but we live in a time >> But but but but we live in a time because you can be an influencer because because you can be an influencer because because you can be an influencer because you can talk good on the subject, but you can talk good on the subject, but you can talk good on the subject, but you sleeping with three different people you sleeping with three different people you sleeping with three different people >> and we call you an influencer. >> and we call you an influencer. >> and we call you an influencer. How many babies you got out of wedlock? How many babies you got out of wedlock? How many babies you got out of wedlock? >> Lord have mercy. >> Lord have mercy. >> Lord have mercy. >> Come on. >> Come on. >> Come on. >> Lord have mercy. >> Lord have mercy. >> Lord have mercy. >> Come on. I'm just looking. So how are we >> Come on. I'm just looking. So how are we >> Come on. I'm just looking. So how are we defining them? What type of influence? defining them? What type of influence? defining them? What type of influence? Here's the reality. We are all Here's the reality. We are all Here's the reality. We are all influencers. influencers. influencers. >> Whether you want to put that on us or >> Whether you want to put that on us or >> Whether you want to put that on us or not. We were Let me give you I'm proof not. We were Let me give you I'm proof not. We were Let me give you I'm proof text it as Christians. You were made to text it as Christians. You were made to text it as Christians. You were made to influence. Here it is. Here's influence. Here it is. Here's influence. Here it is. Here's influential words. influential words. influential words. >> Salt of the earth.

>> Salt of the earth. >> Salt of the earth. >> So what are you chasing after? See, we >> So what are you chasing after? See, we >> So what are you chasing after? See, we chasing clout and and forgot about your chasing clout and and forgot about your chasing clout and and forgot about your salt. Uh oh, I just said something. Come salt. Uh oh, I just said something. Come salt. Uh oh, I just said something. Come on. We're chasing clout and you don't on. We're chasing clout and you don't on. We're chasing clout and you don't even you had learned about your salt. even you had learned about your salt. even you had learned about your salt. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> It says you are the light of the world. >> It says you are the light of the world. >> It says you are the light of the world. >> Why is that? Why did he say light? >> Why is that? Why did he say light? >> Why is that? Why did he say light? Because guess what? I don't care how Because guess what? I don't care how Because guess what? I don't care how dark this room get. It can be pitch dark this room get. It can be pitch dark this room get. It can be pitch black. Pull out your cell phone and that black. Pull out your cell phone and that black. Pull out your cell phone and that little light on the back. The darkness little light on the back. The darkness little light on the back. The darkness can't stop it. See, that's the problem. can't stop it. See, that's the problem. can't stop it. See, that's the problem. We're chasing some Oh, God. It's a trick We're chasing some Oh, God. It's a trick We're chasing some Oh, God. It's a trick of the enemy like Adam and Eve in the of the enemy like Adam and Eve in the of the enemy like Adam and Eve in the beginning. beginning. beginning. >> Making them think that they don't have >> Making them think that they don't have >> Making them think that they don't have something that they already have that something that they already have that something that they already have that God already given? God already given? God already given? >> Hath God said? So, the world says, "Go >> Hath God said? So, the world says, "Go >> Hath God said? So, the world says, "Go get something that you already got as a get something that you already got as a get something that you already got as a believer." That's so good. believer." That's so good. believer." That's so good. >> Go get clout. >> Go get clout. >> Go get clout. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But you forgot about your salt. >> But you forgot about your salt. >> But you forgot about your salt. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Go. Come on, go get seen. But you forgot >> Go. Come on, go get seen. But you forgot >> Go. Come on, go get seen. But you forgot about your light. about your light. about your light. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> As a believer, >> As a believer, >> As a believer, >> you are the salt of the world. You You >> you are the salt of the world. You You >> you are the salt of the world. You You are the light of the world. are the light of the world. are the light of the world. >> Think about it. Those are influential >> Think about it. Those are influential >> Think about it. Those are influential terms. terms. terms. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That God has given us already.

>> That God has given us already. >> That God has given us already. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, that's a deception in it. >> So, that's a deception in it. >> So, that's a deception in it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And everybody's got influence. You're >> And everybody's got influence. You're >> And everybody's got influence. You're influencing somebody whether you know it influencing somebody whether you know it influencing somebody whether you know it or not. or not. or not. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It's all about which direction is your >> It's all about which direction is your >> It's all about which direction is your influence going in. influence going in. influence going in. >> That's good. Pivot. >> That's good. Pivot. >> That's good. Pivot. >> Come on. Are you feeling me? >> Come on. Are you feeling me? >> Come on. Are you feeling me? >> That's really good. >> That's really good. >> That's really good. >> It's influence and and and and I think >> It's influence and and and and I think >> It's influence and and and and I think it's it's what we put value on. it's it's what we put value on. it's it's what we put value on. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I I shared this with a friend of mine >> I I shared this with a friend of mine >> I I shared this with a friend of mine and and this is what he said. I said, and and this is what he said. I said, and and this is what he said. I said, "Listen," I said, "I heard this the "Listen," I said, "I heard this the "Listen," I said, "I heard this the other day. We get so focused on wanting other day. We get so focused on wanting other day. We get so focused on wanting to change the world when in reality, we to change the world when in reality, we to change the world when in reality, we should be looking for someone's world to should be looking for someone's world to should be looking for someone's world to change." change." change." >> That's good. >> That's good. >> That's good. >> Think about it. Anybody Oh, God. Anybody >> Think about it. Anybody Oh, God. Anybody >> Think about it. Anybody Oh, God. Anybody that's a world changer had somebody that's a world changer had somebody that's a world changer had somebody [clears throat] the first change their [clears throat] the first change their [clears throat] the first change their world. >> Paul became a world changer because >> Paul became a world changer because Christ changed his world. Christ changed his world. Christ changed his world. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> What it athlete, star, singer, you you >> What it athlete, star, singer, you you >> What it athlete, star, singer, you you if you sit down when I was a kid, I if you sit down when I was a kid, I if you sit down when I was a kid, I watch so and so.

watch so and so. watch so and so. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That come on. >> That come on. >> That come on. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And now they're this. >> And now they're this. >> And now they're this. >> But they watch someone. >> But they watch someone. >> But they watch someone. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Think about that. Think about that. Think about that. >> And if we were to get that mindset, the >> And if we were to get that mindset, the >> And if we were to get that mindset, the way that you change the world way that you change the world way that you change the world >> is by changing worlds one at a time. >> is by changing worlds one at a time. >> is by changing worlds one at a time. >> That's good. >> That's good. >> That's good. >> So whose world? That's the influence. >> So whose world? That's the influence. >> So whose world? That's the influence. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Because if I disciple one person, one >> Because if I disciple one person, one >> Because if I disciple one person, one young man or one young lady young man or one young lady young man or one young lady >> and God said, "I want to use you." See, >> and God said, "I want to use you." See, >> and God said, "I want to use you." See, we preach on Paul, on Saul to Paul, we preach on Paul, on Saul to Paul, we preach on Paul, on Saul to Paul, nobody talks about Ananas. [laughter] nobody talks about Ananas. [laughter] nobody talks about Ananas. [laughter] >> Nobody. Who Who's preached on Ananas? >> Nobody. Who Who's preached on Ananas? >> Nobody. Who Who's preached on Ananas? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But who was it that God spoke to and But who was it that God spoke to and But who was it that God spoke to and said, "Go find Saul." said, "Go find Saul." said, "Go find Saul." >> And and that's and I was like, "Hey, >> And and that's and I was like, "Hey, >> And and that's and I was like, "Hey, bro, you know that Joker was killing bro, you know that Joker was killing bro, you know that Joker was killing us." us." us." >> But but think about his walk and how >> But but think about his walk and how >> But but think about his walk and how sensitive to the spirit he had to be to sensitive to the spirit he had to be to sensitive to the spirit he had to be to not only hear but obey. not only hear but obey. not only hear but obey. >> That's wild to me. >> That's wild to me. >> That's wild to me. >> And and if who knows Ananas? Nobody's >> And and if who knows Ananas? Nobody's >> And and if who knows Ananas? Nobody's preaching about Ananas all the time. We preaching about Ananas all the time. We preaching about Ananas all the time. We hear about Paul, but he was the one hear about Paul, but he was the one hear about Paul, but he was the one influencer. M influencer. M influencer. M >> he said, "Now use your influence >> he said, "Now use your influence >> he said, "Now use your influence >> to go influence him >> to go influence him >> to go influence him >> because I've called him and God gave a >> because I've called him and God gave a >> because I've called him and God gave a category to reach kings, category to reach kings, category to reach kings, >> to reach the household of Israel and >> to reach the household of Israel and >> to reach the household of Israel and Gentiles." Now, I didn't influence you.

Gentiles." Now, I didn't influence you. Gentiles." Now, I didn't influence you. >> I didn't use your influence necessarily >> I didn't use your influence necessarily >> I didn't use your influence necessarily to change the world, but I did use your to change the world, but I did use your to change the world, but I did use your influence to change the world influence to change the world influence to change the world >> of one who I would use to change the >> of one who I would use to change the >> of one who I would use to change the world. But in God's eyes, it's going to world. But in God's eyes, it's going to world. But in God's eyes, it's going to come back to the obedience of Ananas. come back to the obedience of Ananas. come back to the obedience of Ananas. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Oh, God will. >> Oh, God will. >> Oh, God will. >> Yeah. No, but again, I think you hit it >> Yeah. No, but again, I think you hit it >> Yeah. No, but again, I think you hit it right on the head and I think that's right on the head and I think that's right on the head and I think that's what I kind of had in my mind and we've what I kind of had in my mind and we've what I kind of had in my mind and we've talked about this offline about like talked about this offline about like talked about this offline about like this idea of social media. Again, not this idea of social media. Again, not this idea of social media. Again, not that I'm against it, but for me, there's that I'm against it, but for me, there's that I'm against it, but for me, there's this conviction of why would I want to this conviction of why would I want to this conviction of why would I want to go influence thousands or millions when go influence thousands or millions when go influence thousands or millions when I won't even influence the people that I won't even influence the people that I won't even influence the people that God has put in my sphere of influence. God has put in my sphere of influence. God has put in my sphere of influence. It makes no sense to me. So, and let let It makes no sense to me. So, and let let It makes no sense to me. So, and let let me not even kind of start with the me not even kind of start with the me not even kind of start with the church. Let me start in my home. Yes. church. Let me start in my home. Yes. church. Let me start in my home. Yes. >> Am I leading my family? >> Am I leading my family? >> Am I leading my family? >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> What's my marriage like? What do when my >> What's my marriage like? What do when my >> What's my marriage like? What do when my 16-year-old daughter as she's navigating 16-year-old daughter as she's navigating 16-year-old daughter as she's navigating volleyball, am I there with her? And volleyball, am I there with her? And volleyball, am I there with her? And >> that's it. >> that's it. >> that's it. >> When my son wants to go outside and >> When my son wants to go outside and >> When my son wants to go outside and throw the football and spend some time, throw the football and spend some time, throw the football and spend some time, am I leading him in that? am I leading him in that? am I leading him in that? >> But but I'll go and do podcast or preach >> But but I'll go and do podcast or preach >> But but I'll go and do podcast or preach and do this, but I'm not taking care of and do this, but I'm not taking care of and do this, but I'm not taking care of the things that are around me.

the things that are around me. the things that are around me. >> Because in the eyes of society, and >> Because in the eyes of society, and >> Because in the eyes of society, and today's culture, that's not glamorous. today's culture, that's not glamorous. today's culture, that's not glamorous. It's not glamorous to man, but it's It's not glamorous to man, but it's It's not glamorous to man, but it's glorious to God. glorious to God. glorious to God. >> Joshua said, "As for me and my house, >> Joshua said, "As for me and my house, >> Joshua said, "As for me and my house, >> we will serve the Lord." But he also >> we will serve the Lord." But he also >> we will serve the Lord." But he also started, "It starts with me. started, "It starts with me. started, "It starts with me. >> Me and my notice what he prefers." >> Me and my notice what he prefers." >> Me and my notice what he prefers." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> He was He was a man used to do all this >> He was He was a man used to do all this >> He was He was a man used to do all this other stuff. other stuff. other stuff. >> He followed, we talked about it earlier. >> He followed, we talked about it earlier. >> He followed, we talked about it earlier. He followed Moses. He's going to lead a He followed Moses. He's going to lead a He followed Moses. He's going to lead a whole nation into the promised land. But whole nation into the promised land. But whole nation into the promised land. But he said, "It don't start with that. he said, "It don't start with that. he said, "It don't start with that. >> It starts in my home. How can I lead my >> It starts in my home. How can I lead my >> It starts in my home. How can I lead my them in the promised land and not leave them in the promised land and not leave them in the promised land and not leave my own home? my own home? my own home? >> Was it was it Philip in the book of >> Was it was it Philip in the book of >> Was it was it Philip in the book of Acts? We know how God used them to talk Acts? We know how God used them to talk Acts? We know how God used them to talk to the Ethiopian unic. But was it him to the Ethiopian unic. But was it him to the Ethiopian unic. But was it him who had the virgin daughters who were who had the virgin daughters who were who had the virgin daughters who were prophets and stuff? And that just prophets and stuff? And that just prophets and stuff? And that just blessed me to think that man, God used blessed me to think that man, God used blessed me to think that man, God used this man in unique powerful ways. But this man in unique powerful ways. But this man in unique powerful ways. But the Bible is very specific to in time the Bible is very specific to in time the Bible is very specific to in time mentioning the fact that he had seven mentioning the fact that he had seven mentioning the fact that he had seven virgin daughters who were prophets, virgin daughters who were prophets, virgin daughters who were prophets, >> prophetists. And I'm like that blesses >> prophetists. And I'm like that blesses >> prophetists. And I'm like that blesses me of like yeah we can do all this stuff me of like yeah we can do all this stuff me of like yeah we can do all this stuff out externally at church and in the out externally at church and in the out externally at church and in the community but it starts here internally community but it starts here internally community but it starts here internally with us and our heart and our character with us and our heart and our character with us and our heart and our character but in our home are we taking care of but in our home are we taking care of but in our home are we taking care of business at home. So that's really good.

business at home. So that's really good. business at home. So that's really good. I want to Oh go ahead. I want to Oh go ahead. I want to Oh go ahead. >> And and if you look at it about being >> And and if you look at it about being >> And and if you look at it about being witnesses Bible says you shall receive witnesses Bible says you shall receive witnesses Bible says you shall receive power as the Holy Ghost come upon you power as the Holy Ghost come upon you power as the Holy Ghost come upon you and you shall be witnesses. Let me just and you shall be witnesses. Let me just and you shall be witnesses. Let me just park there. witness influencer. But park there. witness influencer. But park there. witness influencer. But anyway, um the Holy Spirit is who gives anyway, um the Holy Spirit is who gives anyway, um the Holy Spirit is who gives you the ultimate influence. Yeah. The you the ultimate influence. Yeah. The you the ultimate influence. Yeah. The Holy Spirit is the ultimate influencer. Holy Spirit is the ultimate influencer. Holy Spirit is the ultimate influencer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. But if you look at how it was laid >> Okay. But if you look at how it was laid >> Okay. But if you look at how it was laid out, how did it say you shall receive out, how did it say you shall receive out, how did it say you shall receive and you shall become witness where? and you shall become witness where? and you shall become witness where? >> Geographically they started closest >> Geographically they started closest >> Geographically they started closest >> to home and then unto the uttermost >> to home and then unto the uttermost >> to home and then unto the uttermost parts of the world. parts of the world. parts of the world. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> He said start where here right here >> He said start where here right here >> He said start where here right here where you are. where you are. where you are. >> That's good. And then you go from there. >> That's good. And then you go from there. >> That's good. And then you go from there. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Jesus even he sent them to their own >> Jesus even he sent them to their own >> Jesus even he sent them to their own first. Your own first. first. Your own first. first. Your own first. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And it's a beautiful story and we've >> And it's a beautiful story and we've >> And it's a beautiful story and we've heard our pastor teach on this where it heard our pastor teach on this where it heard our pastor teach on this where it talked about how Noah was the eighth man talked about how Noah was the eighth man talked about how Noah was the eighth man in in in >> what it meant was he made sure his whole >> what it meant was he made sure his whole >> what it meant was he made sure his whole family was in verse family was in verse family was in verse >> and then he followed. Yeah. >> and then he followed. Yeah. >> and then he followed. Yeah. >> And this was a man who was an influencer >> And this was a man who was an influencer >> And this was a man who was an influencer we know in the world. And so we know in the world. And so we know in the world. And so >> but Pastor Javon, this is really good. I >> but Pastor Javon, this is really good. I >> but Pastor Javon, this is really good. I think we're going to have to do a part think we're going to have to do a part think we're going to have to do a part two. So, let's pause here and get ready two. So, let's pause here and get ready two. So, let's pause here and get ready for us to, you know, transition into a for us to, you know, transition into a for us to, you know, transition into a part two. So, just thank y'all for part two. So, just thank y'all for part two. So, just thank y'all for tuning in. We appreciate y'all.

tuning in. We appreciate y'all. tuning in. We appreciate y'all. >> Be on the lookout cuz part two is coming >> Be on the lookout cuz part two is coming >> Be on the lookout cuz part two is coming where we dig into some other things. But where we dig into some other things. But where we dig into some other things. But this has been great. this has been great. this has been great. >> Oh, yeah. Awesome. Awesome. >> Oh, yeah. Awesome. Awesome. >> Oh, yeah. Awesome. Awesome. >> What would you uh say real quick to just >> What would you uh say real quick to just >> What would you uh say real quick to just encourage them as we uh land on part encourage them as we uh land on part encourage them as we uh land on part one? one? one? >> Um just encourage you to continue to >> Um just encourage you to continue to >> Um just encourage you to continue to take what you heard today and don't stop take what you heard today and don't stop take what you heard today and don't stop here. here. here. >> Go back and listen to it. Listen to it >> Go back and listen to it. Listen to it >> Go back and listen to it. Listen to it again. Take notes. Matter of fact, share again. Take notes. Matter of fact, share again. Take notes. Matter of fact, share it with someone. get a group of friends it with someone. get a group of friends it with someone. get a group of friends and kind of listen to it together. And and kind of listen to it together. And and kind of listen to it together. And um we're just going to in the in the um we're just going to in the in the um we're just going to in the in the next episode, we'll we'll keep building next episode, we'll we'll keep building next episode, we'll we'll keep building on this. And so we'll kind of use this on this. And so we'll kind of use this on this. And so we'll kind of use this as the introduction and we'll get a as the introduction and we'll get a as the introduction and we'll get a little bit deeper on the next one. So we little bit deeper on the next one. So we little bit deeper on the next one. So we can't wait to see you. Round two's can't wait to see you. Round two's can't wait to see you. Round two's coming. coming. coming. >> All right. Be on the lookout for it. >> All right. Be on the lookout for it. >> All right. Be on the lookout for it. It's coming. Peace.