How Jesus Leads Differently | 1 Peter 5

>> Hey, I'm Chuck. >> Hey, I'm Chuck. >> I'm Jordan. >> I'm Jordan. >> I'm Jordan. >> I'm Danny. >> I'm Danny. >> I'm Danny. >> I'm Chris. >> I'm Chris. >> I'm Chris. >> Uh, >> Uh, >> Uh, this is totally an aside to the this is totally an aside to the this is totally an aside to the scripture of 1 Peter 5. scripture of 1 Peter 5. scripture of 1 Peter 5. >> [music] >> [music] >> [music] >> 1 Peter to me is so encouraging. And >> 1 Peter to me is so encouraging. And >> 1 Peter to me is so encouraging. And here's why it's encouraging. Cuz Peter here's why it's encouraging. Cuz Peter here's why it's encouraging. Cuz Peter wrote it. wrote it. wrote it. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Like it means growth is possible. Like >> Like it means growth is possible. Like >> Like it means growth is possible. Like it means this guy who we see is it means this guy who we see is it means this guy who we see is impulsive and you know, he's saying impulsive and you know, he's saying impulsive and you know, he's saying things, he's blurting stuff out, and things, he's blurting stuff out, and things, he's blurting stuff out, and he's getting called Satan. Obviously, he he's getting called Satan. Obviously, he he's getting called Satan. Obviously, he has a transformative experience. And has a transformative experience. And has a transformative experience. And here he is later in life. I don't know here he is later in life. I don't know here he is later in life. I don't know if he's like, you know, how old he was. if he's like, you know, how old he was. if he's like, you know, how old he was. I had to do the research on how old he I had to do the research on how old he I had to do the research on how old he was. But But he's got some wisdom, and was. But But he's got some wisdom, and was. But But he's got some wisdom, and he's got some perspective, and he's he's got some perspective, and he's he's got some perspective, and he's still walking with Jesus, and he and still walking with Jesus, and he and still walking with Jesus, and he and he's giving that away. And so, it's just he's giving that away. And so, it's just he's giving that away. And so, it's just super encouraging to me to read 1 Peter super encouraging to me to read 1 Peter super encouraging to me to read 1 Peter cuz I think it's like he's one of those cuz I think it's like he's one of those cuz I think it's like he's one of those characters we get a a unique arc story characters we get a a unique arc story characters we get a a unique arc story arc of his life. arc of his life. arc of his life. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um, and he talks about >> Um, and he talks about >> Um, and he talks about you know, Jesus is the chief shepherd, you know, Jesus is the chief shepherd, you know, Jesus is the chief shepherd, right? And he's giving advice to people right? And he's giving advice to people right? And he's giving advice to people who are leading the church and and all who are leading the church and and all who are leading the church and and all of that. But Peter was a powerful mentor of that. But Peter was a powerful mentor of that. But Peter was a powerful mentor to the people he was writing to. He was to the people he was writing to. He was to the people he was writing to. He was a an example of faith, and lots of a an example of faith, and lots of a an example of faith, and lots of people were encouraged by his example.

people were encouraged by his example. people were encouraged by his example. So, who's who's a person who played that So, who's who's a person who played that So, who's who's a person who played that role or plays that role in your life, role or plays that role in your life, role or plays that role in your life, and why has their leadership, and why has their leadership, and why has their leadership, mentorship, guidance been so meaningful mentorship, guidance been so meaningful mentorship, guidance been so meaningful to you? to you? to you? >> So, someone really special to me, her >> So, someone really special to me, her >> So, someone really special to me, her name is Betty. name is Betty. name is Betty. I've met with her for years, and um, I've met with her for years, and um, I've met with her for years, and um, man, she just brought wisdom, truth, man, she just brought wisdom, truth, man, she just brought wisdom, truth, wisdom. I remember I was having um, wisdom. I remember I was having um, wisdom. I remember I was having um, some struggles with a relationship, and some struggles with a relationship, and some struggles with a relationship, and she she was like, well, she she was like, well, she she was like, well, "Whatever God is trying to teach you, "Whatever God is trying to teach you, "Whatever God is trying to teach you, you better learn it fast because he's you better learn it fast because he's you better learn it fast because he's going to keep testing this. He's going going to keep testing this. He's going going to keep testing this. He's going to keep pushing you on this." And just I to keep pushing you on this." And just I to keep pushing you on this." And just I mean, it was just so good to have mean, it was just so good to have mean, it was just so good to have somebody like that who was ahead of me somebody like that who was ahead of me somebody like that who was ahead of me in life, in life, in life, >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> had kind of a similar uh, situation. She >> had kind of a similar uh, situation. She >> had kind of a similar uh, situation. She and her husband didn't have kids. John and her husband didn't have kids. John and her husband didn't have kids. John and I don't have kids. So, she just had and I don't have kids. So, she just had and I don't have kids. So, she just had some really good wisdom and nuggets that some really good wisdom and nuggets that some really good wisdom and nuggets that she could share with me to kind of she could share with me to kind of she could share with me to kind of nurture me and bring me along. And I had nurture me and bring me along. And I had nurture me and bring me along. And I had stepped into a leadership role and she stepped into a leadership role and she stepped into a leadership role and she was in a leadership role and she was was in a leadership role and she was was in a leadership role and she was just it was just great. It was great and just it was just great. It was great and just it was just great. It was great and so important I thought for me to humble so important I thought for me to humble so important I thought for me to humble myself and submit myself to somebody myself and submit myself to somebody myself and submit myself to somebody else's authority and and be able to else's authority and and be able to else's authority and and be able to learn from them and grow. It really learn from them and grow. It really learn from them and grow. It really taught me a ton.

taught me a ton. taught me a ton. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, I think of a guy uh named named >> Yeah, I think of a guy uh named named >> Yeah, I think of a guy uh named named Arnold. When I was 20 years old, I moved Arnold. When I was 20 years old, I moved Arnold. When I was 20 years old, I moved from North Carolina to California, from North Carolina to California, from North Carolina to California, bought a one-way ticket to go from the bought a one-way ticket to go from the bought a one-way ticket to go from the East Coast to the West Coast because East Coast to the West Coast because East Coast to the West Coast because Arnold took a chance on me Arnold took a chance on me Arnold took a chance on me uh as an youth ministry intern. uh as an youth ministry intern. uh as an youth ministry intern. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> And >> And >> And >> When you say California and Arnold, I >> When you say California and Arnold, I >> When you say California and Arnold, I was wondering if it was Arnold was wondering if it was Arnold was wondering if it was Arnold Schwarzenegger. Schwarzenegger. Schwarzenegger. >> No. [laughter] >> No. [laughter] >> No. [laughter] That would have been a a much different That would have been a a much different That would have been a a much different experience, but uh >> Oh man, shout out to Arnold. >> Oh man, shout out to Arnold. The The reason I loved Arnold was that The The reason I loved Arnold was that The The reason I loved Arnold was that he was a man that was filled with faith. he was a man that was filled with faith. he was a man that was filled with faith. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> And >> And >> And I looked up to him because I wanted to I looked up to him because I wanted to I looked up to him because I wanted to do what he did. do what he did. do what he did. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And instead of just telling me what to >> And instead of just telling me what to >> And instead of just telling me what to do, he just showed me how to do it. And do, he just showed me how to do it. And do, he just showed me how to do it. And I think that the best leaders and the I think that the best leaders and the I think that the best leaders and the best teachers, they don't just say, "All best teachers, they don't just say, "All best teachers, they don't just say, "All right, this is how you do it."

right, this is how you do it." right, this is how you do it." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> They show you how to do it. >> They show you how to do it. >> They show you how to do it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And Arnold was never telling me to do >> And Arnold was never telling me to do >> And Arnold was never telling me to do something that he wasn't doing. something that he wasn't doing. something that he wasn't doing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I just remember being like, man, I >> And I just remember being like, man, I >> And I just remember being like, man, I want to be that type of leader that when want to be that type of leader that when want to be that type of leader that when there's people that are under me one there's people that are under me one there's people that are under me one day, I don't want to just bark orders, I day, I don't want to just bark orders, I day, I don't want to just bark orders, I want to actually like bring them into my want to actually like bring them into my want to actually like bring them into my life and show them how to do the thing. life and show them how to do the thing. life and show them how to do the thing. And he modeled that really well. And he modeled that really well. And he modeled that really well. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Oh, I love that. >> Oh, I love that. >> Oh, I love that. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> I think of my young life leader, >> I think of my young life leader, >> I think of my young life leader, basically youth group leader from basically youth group leader from basically youth group leader from growing up, Vinnie, that's uh I was 14 growing up, Vinnie, that's uh I was 14 growing up, Vinnie, that's uh I was 14 and he was in college and had no reason and he was in college and had no reason and he was in college and had no reason to want to hang out with to want to hang out with to want to hang out with this kid who couldn't drive and had to this kid who couldn't drive and had to this kid who couldn't drive and had to pick me up every day, but like seriously pick me up every day, but like seriously pick me up every day, but like seriously pursued and invested me in a way that pursued and invested me in a way that pursued and invested me in a way that like changed my understanding of how God like changed my understanding of how God like changed my understanding of how God pursues me also. Like pursues me also. Like pursues me also. Like thinking that God at some point in my thinking that God at some point in my thinking that God at some point in my life was like, "Okay, he's this person life was like, "Okay, he's this person life was like, "Okay, he's this person that's like there if I like come to him that's like there if I like come to him that's like there if I like come to him and ask questions to him and go to him, and ask questions to him and go to him, and ask questions to him and go to him, but like he's just kind of like waiting but like he's just kind of like waiting but like he's just kind of like waiting for me." And I feel like Vinnie changed for me." And I feel like Vinnie changed for me." And I feel like Vinnie changed my perspective a lot of like my perspective a lot of like my perspective a lot of like how God is a pursuer and is actively how God is a pursuer and is actively how God is a pursuer and is actively drawing near to me. And cuz every day drawing near to me. And cuz every day drawing near to me. And cuz every day he'd text me like, "Let's go to he'd text me like, "Let's go to he'd text me like, "Let's go to Wendy's." Like I think he Wendy's." Like I think he Wendy's." Like I think he I must have spent like half his bank I must have spent like half his bank I must have spent like half his bank account just over [laughter] like a account just over [laughter] like a account just over [laughter] like a couple year stretch at Wendy's and so couple year stretch at Wendy's and so couple year stretch at Wendy's and so very close and still involved in my life very close and still involved in my life very close and still involved in my life now, but like forever changed how I view now, but like forever changed how I view now, but like forever changed how I view God as a father, I would say.

God as a father, I would say. God as a father, I would say. >> That's so good. That's so good. >> That's so good. That's so good. >> That's so good. That's so good. I'm really [clears throat] fortunate cuz I'm really [clears throat] fortunate cuz I'm really [clears throat] fortunate cuz one of the people who has been a one of the people who has been a one of the people who has been a long-time mentor in my life is my actual long-time mentor in my life is my actual long-time mentor in my life is my actual brother. It's my oldest brother. And it brother. It's my oldest brother. And it brother. It's my oldest brother. And it reminds me what you said, Jordan. My reminds me what you said, Jordan. My reminds me what you said, Jordan. My brother was really good at not brother was really good at not brother was really good at not necessarily giving me advice, but necessarily giving me advice, but necessarily giving me advice, but getting me into situations that he knew getting me into situations that he knew getting me into situations that he knew I hadn't experienced before. I hadn't experienced before. I hadn't experienced before. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> And then helping me to process what I >> And then helping me to process what I >> And then helping me to process what I was learning in those experiences. So, was learning in those experiences. So, was learning in those experiences. So, you know, the [clears throat] way he you know, the [clears throat] way he you know, the [clears throat] way he would teach was by, "Hey, let's go on a would teach was by, "Hey, let's go on a would teach was by, "Hey, let's go on a journey. Let's let's do this thing journey. Let's let's do this thing journey. Let's let's do this thing together." And and that's still the way together." And and that's still the way together." And and that's still the way it is with him. And I'm just so thankful it is with him. And I'm just so thankful it is with him. And I'm just so thankful for that. And I think the thing that you for that. And I think the thing that you for that. And I think the thing that you make me think about all of you is make me think about all of you is make me think about all of you is the people who've had the most spiritual the people who've had the most spiritual the people who've had the most spiritual impact in my life have had it over time. impact in my life have had it over time. impact in my life have had it over time. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Like there's something to be said for >> Like there's something to be said for >> Like there's something to be said for and I have I'm sure we all have great and I have I'm sure we all have great and I have I'm sure we all have great examples of men. There was a message I examples of men. There was a message I examples of men. There was a message I heard and that really shifted something heard and that really shifted something heard and that really shifted something in me. That can happen. in me. That can happen. in me. That can happen. But it's that long-term relational But it's that long-term relational But it's that long-term relational connection connection connection and intention over time to build into and intention over time to build into and intention over time to build into you or person that I think is just so you or person that I think is just so you or person that I think is just so meaningful. meaningful. meaningful. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And and I think that's what I think what >> And and I think that's what I think what >> And and I think that's what I think what Peter's getting at in the 1 Peter is Peter's getting at in the 1 Peter is Peter's getting at in the 1 Peter is like that's the kind of shepherd that like that's the kind of shepherd that like that's the kind of shepherd that Jesus is.

Jesus is. Jesus is. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> So, I want to ask you to go back through >> So, I want to ask you to go back through >> So, I want to ask you to go back through and Betty, and Betty, and Betty, >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Arnold, >> Arnold, >> Arnold, >> Vinnie. >> Vinnie. >> Vinnie. >> and Vinnie, >> and Vinnie, >> and Vinnie, and and for me my brother Skip. and and for me my brother Skip. and and for me my brother Skip. What aspect of Jesus What aspect of Jesus What aspect of Jesus do you see in how they mentored and do you see in how they mentored and do you see in how they mentored and guided you? guided you? guided you? So Betty was like this because Jesus is So Betty was like this because Jesus is So Betty was like this because Jesus is that way. Arnold did this and it worked that way. Arnold did this and it worked that way. Arnold did this and it worked because this is the way Jesus is. Does because this is the way Jesus is. Does because this is the way Jesus is. Does that make sense? >> Yeah, I think when I think about Arnold >> Yeah, I think when I think about Arnold I just think about patience. I just think about patience. I just think about patience. I mean I made so many I mean I made so many I mean I made so many stupid mistakes as a 20-year-old in turn stupid mistakes as a 20-year-old in turn stupid mistakes as a 20-year-old in turn and I can look back and laugh at a lot and I can look back and laugh at a lot and I can look back and laugh at a lot of them now but also there were a few of them now but also there were a few of them now but also there were a few times where it was like oh that was like times where it was like oh that was like times where it was like oh that was like really a bozo like thing to do you know? really a bozo like thing to do you know? really a bozo like thing to do you know? Again I was talking about this idea of Again I was talking about this idea of Again I was talking about this idea of like being sheep. like being sheep. like being sheep. I was a wandering sheep and and didn't I was a wandering sheep and and didn't I was a wandering sheep and and didn't know what I didn't know and I know now know what I didn't know and I know now know what I didn't know and I know now especially working with young people man especially working with young people man especially working with young people man it's so hard to be patient when it's so hard to be patient when it's so hard to be patient when people you're leading or in relationship people you're leading or in relationship people you're leading or in relationship with they're not getting it you know? Or with they're not getting it you know? Or with they're not getting it you know? Or they're not where you want them to be they're not where you want them to be they're not where you want them to be and it feels like you're trying to teach and it feels like you're trying to teach and it feels like you're trying to teach and coach and something's not clicking and coach and something's not clicking and coach and something's not clicking like it's really hard to just to to stay like it's really hard to just to to stay like it's really hard to just to to stay patient and he was incredibly patient patient and he was incredibly patient patient and he was incredibly patient with me and with me and with me and I want to I want to be more patient.

I want to I want to be more patient. I want to I want to be more patient. >> Amen amen and Jesus is that way. Jesus >> Amen amen and Jesus is that way. Jesus >> Amen amen and Jesus is that way. Jesus is patient with us. is patient with us. is patient with us. >> Yeah patient with me for sure. >> Yeah patient with me for sure. >> Yeah patient with me for sure. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Betty toggled between truth and grace >> Betty toggled between truth and grace >> Betty toggled between truth and grace beautifully masterfully. beautifully masterfully. beautifully masterfully. And like sometimes I need truth really And like sometimes I need truth really And like sometimes I need truth really like hard truth cuz I'm hard-headed and like hard truth cuz I'm hard-headed and like hard truth cuz I'm hard-headed and sometimes it doesn't always come through sometimes it doesn't always come through sometimes it doesn't always come through and sometimes I need grace and she just and sometimes I need grace and she just and sometimes I need grace and she just bounced between those in the right ways bounced between those in the right ways bounced between those in the right ways where it met me exactly where I was. where it met me exactly where I was. where it met me exactly where I was. >> That's good. >> That's good. >> That's good. >> Yeah I mean again I feel like Vinnie was >> Yeah I mean again I feel like Vinnie was >> Yeah I mean again I feel like Vinnie was such a pursuer and I feel like God is such a pursuer and I feel like God is such a pursuer and I feel like God is that way too and similar with Jordan I that way too and similar with Jordan I that way too and similar with Jordan I feel like the grace aspect was so fresh feel like the grace aspect was so fresh feel like the grace aspect was so fresh to me too like I remember riding in his to me too like I remember riding in his to me too like I remember riding in his car one time with him you know I was 14 car one time with him you know I was 14 car one time with him you know I was 14 and then I was just like Vinnie what and then I was just like Vinnie what and then I was just like Vinnie what would you do if I got a girl pregnant would you do if I got a girl pregnant would you do if I got a girl pregnant and was like almost provoking him just and was like almost provoking him just and was like almost provoking him just to be like oh I'd beat the brakes off to be like oh I'd beat the brakes off to be like oh I'd beat the brakes off you or I like I would you know do like you or I like I would you know do like you or I like I would you know do like and I'm just like teeing him up to like and I'm just like teeing him up to like and I'm just like teeing him up to like give a funny answer and he just like give a funny answer and he just like give a funny answer and he just like sits there and he thinks he goes, sits there and he thinks he goes, sits there and he thinks he goes, "I'd tell you I love you and I'm with "I'd tell you I love you and I'm with "I'd tell you I love you and I'm with you." And I was like, "What like you." And I was like, "What like you." And I was like, "What like >> [laughter] >> But it was just this profound moment >> But it was just this profound moment where like and I knew he was being real where like and I knew he was being real where like and I knew he was being real that like that like that like >> Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I feel like just I think clicked in me >> I feel like just I think clicked in me >> I feel like just I think clicked in me of like, okay, this is how this is just of like, okay, this is how this is just of like, okay, this is how this is just a reflection of like how God views me a reflection of like how God views me a reflection of like how God views me too. And like not that actions are too. And like not that actions are too. And like not that actions are without consequence and all these things without consequence and all these things without consequence and all these things but like just God's presence not being but like just God's presence not being but like just God's presence not being like, okay, that was the last straw and like, okay, that was the last straw and like, okay, that was the last straw and now I'm out. It's like I feel like now I'm out. It's like I feel like now I'm out. It's like I feel like Vinnie really displayed he's like, I'm Vinnie really displayed he's like, I'm Vinnie really displayed he's like, I'm here no matter what. So. here no matter what. So. here no matter what. So. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And it's good. And it's good. And it's good. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. Yeah, my when I think about my >> Yeah. Yeah, my when I think about my >> Yeah. Yeah, my when I think about my brother, my brother brother, my brother brother, my brother um he's so generous. um he's so generous. um he's so generous. He's so generous and has been so He's so generous and has been so He's so generous and has been so generous with me. My brother had a generous with me. My brother had a generous with me. My brother had a business and I worked for him in business and I worked for him in business and I worked for him in college, mortgage financing and long college, mortgage financing and long college, mortgage financing and long story short, I made a mistake that was story short, I made a mistake that was story short, I made a mistake that was at least a $5,000 mistake. It was at least a $5,000 mistake. It was at least a $5,000 mistake. It was probably more than that. And let's just probably more than that. And let's just probably more than that. And let's just be clear, I was be clear, I was be clear, I was >> I was a college student. He wasn't >> I was a college student. He wasn't >> I was a college student. He wasn't paying me that much money, right? paying me that much money, right? paying me that much money, right? [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> to begin with. So I was costing way more >> to begin with. So I was costing way more >> to begin with. So I was costing way more than I was and um than I was and um than I was and um and honestly everybody that my brother and honestly everybody that my brother and honestly everybody that my brother worked with, they knew like he was firm worked with, they knew like he was firm worked with, they knew like he was firm but he he was fair but he was firm, but he he was fair but he was firm, but he he was fair but he was firm, right? They all thought he was going to right? They all thought he was going to right? They all thought he was going to kill me. Number one, they thought he was kill me. Number one, they thought he was kill me. Number one, they thought he was going to kill me and they thought at going to kill me and they thought at going to kill me and they thought at minimum he was going to fire me. Um and minimum he was going to fire me. Um and minimum he was going to fire me. Um and so did I and I'll never forget going so did I and I'll never forget going so did I and I'll never forget going into his office and him saying to me, into his office and him saying to me, into his office and him saying to me, "Do you Do you realize how much you cost "Do you Do you realize how much you cost "Do you Do you realize how much you cost the company today?"

the company today?" the company today?" And I was like, I I I And I was like, I I I And I was like, I I I Yeah, I you know, he told me and he was Yeah, I you know, he told me and he was Yeah, I you know, he told me and he was like, like, like, "I'm I should fire you. "I'm I should fire you. "I'm I should fire you. But I'm not going to fire you cuz I just But I'm not going to fire you cuz I just But I'm not going to fire you cuz I just paid $5,000 for your training today." paid $5,000 for your training today." paid $5,000 for your training today." >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Don't ever let it happen again. >> Don't ever let it happen again. >> Don't ever let it happen again. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> And but but in that there was a >> And but but in that there was a >> And but but in that there was a generosity and and I think there's generosity and and I think there's generosity and and I think there's something about Jesus that I learned in something about Jesus that I learned in something about Jesus that I learned in that moment. Like Jesus is generous, but that moment. Like Jesus is generous, but that moment. Like Jesus is generous, but Jesus is firm. Like Jesus will correct. Jesus is firm. Like Jesus will correct. Jesus is firm. Like Jesus will correct. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But his grace is just so powerful that >> But his grace is just so powerful that >> But his grace is just so powerful that even in his corrections for our good. even in his corrections for our good. even in his corrections for our good. So, I always love telling my my kids So, I always love telling my my kids So, I always love telling my my kids really love when I tell that story cuz really love when I tell that story cuz really love when I tell that story cuz it's [laughter] like it's [laughter] like it's [laughter] like this is a screw up, you know, this is a screw up, you know, this is a screw up, you know, but I think that for all of us as we but I think that for all of us as we but I think that for all of us as we think about that like that's the kind of think about that like that's the kind of think about that like that's the kind of shepherd that Jesus is. And you know, shepherd that Jesus is. And you know, shepherd that Jesus is. And you know, what Peter was saying to people in 1 what Peter was saying to people in 1 what Peter was saying to people in 1 Peter is obviously in the midst of Peter is obviously in the midst of Peter is obviously in the midst of difficulty, in the midst of crisis, in difficulty, in the midst of crisis, in difficulty, in the midst of crisis, in the midst of persecution, we have a good the midst of persecution, we have a good the midst of persecution, we have a good shepherd and he's trustworthy in every shepherd and he's trustworthy in every shepherd and he's trustworthy in every phase of our life and in every way that phase of our life and in every way that phase of our life and in every way that we would follow him. So, I pray today we would follow him. So, I pray today we would follow him. So, I pray today that you would experience him in all of that you would experience him in all of that you would experience him in all of those ways as your shepherd.