The Courage to Stand Alone | 1 Kings 22

>> Hey, I'm Chuck. >> Hey, I'm Chuck. >> I'm Kirsten. >> I'm Kirsten. >> I'm Kirsten. >> I'm Mish. >> I'm Mish. >> I'm Mish. >> And I'm Miko. >> And I'm Miko. >> And I'm Miko. >> And we [snorts] we had a very spirited >> And we [snorts] we had a very spirited >> And we [snorts] we had a very spirited conversation about things we hold as a conversation about things we hold as a conversation about things we hold as a decision or an opinion that are not decision or an opinion that are not decision or an opinion that are not shared by other people. shared by other people. shared by other people. Um and today's reading is a Um and today's reading is a Um and today's reading is a way more relevant and way more way more relevant and way more way more relevant and way more consequential example of that where you consequential example of that where you consequential example of that where you know, the king is going to battle and know, the king is going to battle and know, the king is going to battle and all the prophets are basically all the prophets are basically all the prophets are basically brown-nosing brown-nosing brown-nosing >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Um and one guy, Micaiah, one one prophet >> Um and one guy, Micaiah, one one prophet >> Um and one guy, Micaiah, one one prophet has the courage to actually say what God has the courage to actually say what God has the courage to actually say what God said. So, um said. So, um said. So, um when have you found yourself in a when have you found yourself in a when have you found yourself in a minority position where your perspective minority position where your perspective minority position where your perspective is different than the people around you is different than the people around you is different than the people around you and how did it go? If did you share your and how did it go? If did you share your and how did it go? If did you share your perspective? Did you hold back? Like perspective? Did you hold back? Like perspective? Did you hold back? Like what was that look like for you guys in what was that look like for you guys in what was that look like for you guys in your life? your life? your life? >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> I pray for people to break up >> I pray for people to break up >> I pray for people to break up >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> if they're not like >> if they're not like >> if they're not like good and healthy for each other. Feel good and healthy for each other. Feel good and healthy for each other. Feel like everyone is like like everyone is like like everyone is like pro things working out.

pro things working out. pro things working out. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And like I believe people can change. I >> And like I believe people can change. I >> And like I believe people can change. I believe people can grow. But if it goes believe people can grow. But if it goes believe people can grow. But if it goes on long enough, I'm like on long enough, I'm like on long enough, I'm like you got you got to give it up. Like in you got you got to give it up. Like in you got you got to give it up. Like in like dating senses, you know. like dating senses, you know. like dating senses, you know. Um it's just is like that's what Um it's just is like that's what Um it's just is like that's what dating's for. Why put yourself through dating's for. Why put yourself through dating's for. Why put yourself through that? And of course everyone else is that? And of course everyone else is that? And of course everyone else is like, "No, you're fine. It'll get like, "No, you're fine. It'll get like, "No, you're fine. It'll get better." It's like better." It's like better." It's like >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> But will it? >> But will it? >> But will it? >> Man. >> Man. >> Man. >> Like I did that with my sister. I was >> Like I did that with my sister. I was >> Like I did that with my sister. I was like, "God, you got to take like, "God, you got to take like, "God, you got to take stop this." And I was like, "I don't stop this." And I was like, "I don't stop this." And I was like, "I don't think anyone's praying this prayer." But think anyone's praying this prayer." But think anyone's praying this prayer." But it worked. it worked. it worked. >> Did she break up? >> Did she break up? >> Did she break up? >> Oh, yeah. Thank Oh, >> Oh, yeah. Thank Oh, >> Oh, yeah. Thank Oh, >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Lord. >> Lord. >> Lord. >> It'd be more It'd be more spicy if you >> It'd be more It'd be more spicy if you >> It'd be more It'd be more spicy if you said, "NO, SHE'S MARRIED." said, "NO, SHE'S MARRIED." said, "NO, SHE'S MARRIED." >> NO. >> NO. >> NO. NO. NO. NO. NO. BUT NO. BUT NO. BUT >> THAT'S really good. >> THAT'S really good. >> THAT'S really good. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> No, that's really good in having the >> No, that's really good in having the >> No, that's really good in having the courage to say that. courage to say that. courage to say that. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Cuz it always feel like whenever it's >> Cuz it always feel like whenever it's >> Cuz it always feel like whenever it's you know it always feels like you called you know it always feels like you called you know it always feels like you called somebody's baby ugly when you do somebody's baby ugly when you do somebody's baby ugly when you do something like that, but something like that, but something like that, but >> sometimes are ugly, but yes. >> sometimes are ugly, but yes. >> sometimes are ugly, but yes. >> That's true, too. I agree with that. >> That's true, too. I agree with that. >> That's true, too. I agree with that. That is [laughter] not a minority That is [laughter] not a minority That is [laughter] not a minority opinion. I share that opinion with you, opinion. I share that opinion with you, opinion. I share that opinion with you, but I don't know.

but I don't know. but I don't know. >> we talking about? >> we talking about? >> we talking about? >> I don't know. >> I don't know. >> I don't know. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> I DON'T KNOW. HOW DID WE GET ON UGLY >> I DON'T KNOW. HOW DID WE GET ON UGLY >> I DON'T KNOW. HOW DID WE GET ON UGLY BABIES, MAN? BABIES, MAN? BABIES, MAN? >> WELCOME TO THE ugly baby podcast, man. >> WELCOME TO THE ugly baby podcast, man. >> WELCOME TO THE ugly baby podcast, man. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> But I do think like there is there's >> But I do think like there is there's >> But I do think like there is there's power in doing that. I I will say just power in doing that. I I will say just power in doing that. I I will say just personality-wise, it is hard for me to personality-wise, it is hard for me to personality-wise, it is hard for me to take the minority opinion. take the minority opinion. take the minority opinion. Um I want to be liked and I want to like Um I want to be liked and I want to like Um I want to be liked and I want to like keep the peace. And so there are times keep the peace. And so there are times keep the peace. And so there are times when um when um when um I have not shared a a perspective I have not shared a a perspective I have not shared a a perspective because it wasn't popular. And one of because it wasn't popular. And one of because it wasn't popular. And one of the things that I've realized now and the things that I've realized now and the things that I've realized now and I'm trying to grow in that is when I I'm trying to grow in that is when I I'm trying to grow in that is when I don't share that perspective, I do a don't share that perspective, I do a don't share that perspective, I do a disservice to the disservice to the disservice to the room, you know? Cuz a lot of times for room, you know? Cuz a lot of times for room, you know? Cuz a lot of times for me, I'm in a room where a decision's me, I'm in a room where a decision's me, I'm in a room where a decision's going to be made. And if I don't share going to be made. And if I don't share going to be made. And if I don't share my perspective, that means it doesn't my perspective, that means it doesn't my perspective, that means it doesn't mean that I'm right. mean that I'm right. mean that I'm right. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> But at least that input should be >> But at least that input should be >> But at least that input should be offered to the decision so that the best offered to the decision so that the best offered to the decision so that the best decision can be made. Cuz oftentimes I'm decision can be made. Cuz oftentimes I'm decision can be made. Cuz oftentimes I'm making a decision with other people and making a decision with other people and making a decision with other people and we're making a decision for other groups we're making a decision for other groups we're making a decision for other groups of people that we care about. And so I of people that we care about. And so I of people that we care about. And so I think for me in ministry, that's one of think for me in ministry, that's one of think for me in ministry, that's one of the ones where it's like, "Man, I'm not the ones where it's like, "Man, I'm not the ones where it's like, "Man, I'm not when I feel that ping and I want to be when I feel that ping and I want to be when I feel that ping and I want to be like, "I don't want to say anything."

like, "I don't want to say anything." like, "I don't want to say anything." Like that's when it's probably time for Like that's when it's probably time for Like that's when it's probably time for me to be like, "Hey, just another me to be like, "Hey, just another me to be like, "Hey, just another perspective. I Here's what I think." Or perspective. I Here's what I think." Or perspective. I Here's what I think." Or >> Do you ever get the shakes? >> Do you ever get the shakes? >> Do you ever get the shakes? >> I do. >> I do. >> I do. >> Where like you that's where I know the >> Where like you that's where I know the >> Where like you that's where I know the Holy Spirit is like And I get the Holy Spirit is like And I get the Holy Spirit is like And I get the shakes. I'm like, "If I don't say shakes. I'm like, "If I don't say shakes. I'm like, "If I don't say something, I will literally implode in something, I will literally implode in something, I will literally implode in this seat." this seat." this seat." >> That's good. That's good. >> That's good. That's good. >> That's good. That's good. >> I think for me it's harder like when >> I think for me it's harder like when >> I think for me it's harder like when everybody is like gung-ho about it and everybody is like gung-ho about it and everybody is like gung-ho about it and they're already like it's like it's they're already like it's like it's they're already like it's like it's beyond the decision of like exactly. beyond the decision of like exactly. beyond the decision of like exactly. Yeah, and I'm just like Yeah, and I'm just like Yeah, and I'm just like I don't agree with any of this, but I'll I don't agree with any of this, but I'll I don't agree with any of this, but I'll smile and all right, [laughter] let's smile and all right, [laughter] let's smile and all right, [laughter] let's see how this goes. You know what I'm see how this goes. You know what I'm see how this goes. You know what I'm saying? Like that's when like it depends saying? Like that's when like it depends saying? Like that's when like it depends how far along we we are in the like the how far along we we are in the like the how far along we we are in the like the decision-making process, which I'm decision-making process, which I'm decision-making process, which I'm always kind of like always kind of like always kind of like like Miko, now you just sound like a like Miko, now you just sound like a like Miko, now you just sound like a hater. Like, you know what I'm saying? hater. Like, you know what I'm saying? hater. Like, you know what I'm saying? >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> Like, you know what I mean? Like, okay, >> Like, you know what I mean? Like, okay, >> Like, you know what I mean? Like, okay, let me you know, I don't know. So, I let me you know, I don't know. So, I let me you know, I don't know. So, I think just kind of like discern think just kind of like discern think just kind of like discern early on like or decipher like how early early on like or decipher like how early early on like or decipher like how early on we are for me to even share. You on we are for me to even share. You on we are for me to even share. You know, my thought that isn't necessarily know, my thought that isn't necessarily know, my thought that isn't necessarily in agreement.

in agreement. in agreement. >> No, absolutely. I think it's so crucial. >> No, absolutely. I think it's so crucial. >> No, absolutely. I think it's so crucial. I remember being in a political science I remember being in a political science I remember being in a political science class in college where we learned we class in college where we learned we class in college where we learned we dissected groupthink. dissected groupthink. dissected groupthink. >> Ooh. >> Ooh. >> Ooh. >> And we don't need to get into like the >> And we don't need to get into like the >> And we don't need to get into like the actual lessons behind what we did, but actual lessons behind what we did, but actual lessons behind what we did, but we dissected and went through like we dissected and went through like we dissected and went through like lessons of history that can be traced lessons of history that can be traced lessons of history that can be traced back to groupthink. back to groupthink. back to groupthink. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> And the consequences of that. >> And the consequences of that. >> And the consequences of that. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Right. >> Right. >> Right. >> And >> And >> And and um and um and um yeah, I mean, I I really like I admire yeah, I mean, I I really like I admire yeah, I mean, I I really like I admire people like Makayla because people like Makayla because people like Makayla because I think I found myself more in positions I think I found myself more in positions I think I found myself more in positions where I want to speak up because I'm in where I want to speak up because I'm in where I want to speak up because I'm in a minority position a minority position a minority position or people are just saying stuff that I or people are just saying stuff that I or people are just saying stuff that I don't necessarily agree with like what don't necessarily agree with like what don't necessarily agree with like what you're saying you're saying you're saying and don't necessarily do it, but I'm and don't necessarily do it, but I'm and don't necessarily do it, but I'm also like I the reason I admire him is also like I the reason I admire him is also like I the reason I admire him is because he knew of the consequences of because he knew of the consequences of because he knew of the consequences of the potential consequences of speaking the potential consequences of speaking the potential consequences of speaking up and still was willing to up and still was willing to up and still was willing to say something. It was beyond just his say something. It was beyond just his say something. It was beyond just his reputation. It was his livelihood. reputation. It was his livelihood. reputation. It was his livelihood. It was his freedom. It was his freedom. It was his freedom. And And And especially now having a family, I ask especially now having a family, I ask especially now having a family, I ask myself, would I do the same thing? myself, would I do the same thing? myself, would I do the same thing? And yet you see when people do stuff And yet you see when people do stuff And yet you see when people do stuff like that, the progress we as a society like that, the progress we as a society like that, the progress we as a society getting closer to what I think is what getting closer to what I think is what getting closer to what I think is what God intends for this world to be God intends for this world to be God intends for this world to be when people do speak up and share those when people do speak up and share those when people do speak up and share those perspectives and share what they're perspectives and share what they're perspectives and share what they're experiencing.

experiencing. experiencing. >> 100%. >> 100%. >> 100%. >> While rooted in the Lord. Like that's >> While rooted in the Lord. Like that's >> While rooted in the Lord. Like that's the thing is like [clears throat] he the thing is like [clears throat] he the thing is like [clears throat] he knew knew knew that he was hearing from God and the that he was hearing from God and the that he was hearing from God and the disobedience that comes with disobedience that comes with disobedience that comes with not pushing that outward is like not pushing that outward is like not pushing that outward is like >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> it I need that level of conviction in >> it I need that level of conviction in >> it I need that level of conviction in order for me cuz outside of that I'm not order for me cuz outside of that I'm not order for me cuz outside of that I'm not like my opinion, you know, my thoughts like my opinion, you know, my thoughts like my opinion, you know, my thoughts I'm not you know what I'm saying? I'm not you know what I'm saying? I'm not you know what I'm saying? But if I feel like like no this is from But if I feel like like no this is from But if I feel like like no this is from God or this is like God or this is like God or this is like >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Like God you you you're choosing me to >> Like God you you you're choosing me to >> Like God you you you're choosing me to place this in this room. You know what place this in this room. You know what place this in this room. You know what I'm like that kind of weight then it's I'm like that kind of weight then it's I'm like that kind of weight then it's different and I'm just like all right different and I'm just like all right different and I'm just like all right yeah yeah exactly at that point it's all yeah yeah exactly at that point it's all yeah yeah exactly at that point it's all a matter of okay will you obey or a matter of okay will you obey or a matter of okay will you obey or >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> disobey and then it's like fear of man >> disobey and then it's like fear of man >> disobey and then it's like fear of man versus you know what I'm saying? All of versus you know what I'm saying? All of versus you know what I'm saying? All of that and I'm like that and I'm like that and I'm like >> Which is a real thing. Like the opinion >> Which is a real thing. Like the opinion >> Which is a real thing. Like the opinion of having not having mustard is not from of having not having mustard is not from of having not having mustard is not from God. God. God. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> Let me say that. >> Let me say that. >> Let me say that. >> I [laughter] mean you're right. >> I [laughter] mean you're right. >> I [laughter] mean you're right. You're 100% right. You're 100% right. You're 100% right. That's straight from [laughter] That's straight from [laughter] That's straight from [laughter] >> I love it. I love it.

>> I love it. I love it. >> I love it. I love it. >> And I'm correct. >> And I'm correct. >> And I'm correct. >> Some wild taste buds. >> Some wild taste buds. >> Some wild taste buds. >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> [laughter] >> You know what's funny? We Googled >> You know what's funny? We Googled >> You know what's funny? We Googled maybe this was right. We We Googled what maybe this was right. We We Googled what maybe this was right. We We Googled what does his name mean? The prophet Micah. does his name mean? The prophet Micah. does his name mean? The prophet Micah. What does that name mean? And it means What does that name mean? And it means What does that name mean? And it means who is like the Lord. who is like the Lord. who is like the Lord. And you know when you think about that And you know when you think about that And you know when you think about that I'm sure that was part of his I'm sure that was part of his I'm sure that was part of his conviction. It's like I hear these conviction. It's like I hear these conviction. It's like I hear these folks. I know the consequence but folks. I know the consequence but folks. I know the consequence but who am I ultimately accountable to? who am I ultimately accountable to? who am I ultimately accountable to? I'm ultimately accountable to the I'm ultimately accountable to the I'm ultimately accountable to the creator and I know what he told me. creator and I know what he told me. creator and I know what he told me. And so I have to follow that through. So And so I have to follow that through. So And so I have to follow that through. So like maybe maybe to make it practical is like maybe maybe to make it practical is like maybe maybe to make it practical is there a place in your life right now there a place in your life right now there a place in your life right now where you're following conviction that where you're following conviction that where you're following conviction that maybe nobody around you shares but you maybe nobody around you shares but you maybe nobody around you shares but you know it's from the Lord. And it doesn't know it's from the Lord. And it doesn't know it's from the Lord. And it doesn't have to be like this really have to be like this really have to be like this really heavy heart thing but it can be heavy heart thing but it can be heavy heart thing but it can be something [clears throat] small like something [clears throat] small like something [clears throat] small like is there something in your life right is there something in your life right is there something in your life right now that feels like a godly conviction now that feels like a godly conviction now that feels like a godly conviction that you need to take the minority that you need to take the minority that you need to take the minority position in and follow through even if position in and follow through even if position in and follow through even if nobody's on board with it yet or ever. nobody's on board with it yet or ever. nobody's on board with it yet or ever. >> I can think of a time um >> I can think of a time um >> I can think of a time um walking away from business opportunities walking away from business opportunities walking away from business opportunities um that I strongly felt convicted um um that I strongly felt convicted um um that I strongly felt convicted um about like something that I believe God about like something that I believe God about like something that I believe God was placing on my heart and I struggled was placing on my heart and I struggled was placing on my heart and I struggled with it for a while and then I literally with it for a while and then I literally with it for a while and then I literally I was just telling a friend this, I I was just telling a friend this, I I was just telling a friend this, I literally went to a park and then I just literally went to a park and then I just literally went to a park and then I just took out um took out um took out um my notepad and I wrote down everything my notepad and I wrote down everything my notepad and I wrote down everything that I believe God was telling me over that I believe God was telling me over that I believe God was telling me over the past however many weeks. And after I the past however many weeks. And after I the past however many weeks. And after I wrote it all down and I read it, I'm wrote it all down and I read it, I'm wrote it all down and I read it, I'm like, "Okay, God, this isn't even a like, "Okay, God, this isn't even a like, "Okay, God, this isn't even a matter of discernment anymore. This is matter of discernment anymore. This is matter of discernment anymore. This is obedience." And my next step is I have

obedience." And my next step is I have obedience." And my next step is I have to walk away from this opportunity at um to walk away from this opportunity at um to walk away from this opportunity at um this company I was with, and mind you, this company I was with, and mind you, this company I was with, and mind you, you know, like I've got, you know, a you know, like I've got, you know, a you know, like I've got, you know, a criminal record, so it's not like I can criminal record, so it's not like I can criminal record, so it's not like I can just leave here and just go somewhere just leave here and just go somewhere just leave here and just go somewhere else. This was a blessing that they even else. This was a blessing that they even else. This was a blessing that they even let me through this door, and there was let me through this door, and there was let me through this door, and there was so many like there was so much potential so many like there was so much potential so many like there was so much potential that was that, you know, that was that was that, you know, that was that was that, you know, that was happening there, and like I was able to happening there, and like I was able to happening there, and like I was able to like you know, connect with people that like you know, connect with people that like you know, connect with people that the organization like, "Wow, like this the organization like, "Wow, like this the organization like, "Wow, like this could really go somewhere, you know?" could really go somewhere, you know?" could really go somewhere, you know?" And so there was so much momentum behind And so there was so much momentum behind And so there was so much momentum behind it, and I felt God told me to walk away. it, and I felt God told me to walk away. it, and I felt God told me to walk away. And And And I did. Like I was like I remember saying I did. Like I was like I remember saying I did. Like I was like I remember saying God talking to God, I'm like, God talking to God, I'm like, God talking to God, I'm like, I I was reminded of Samuel, and I'm I I was reminded of Samuel, and I'm I I was reminded of Samuel, and I'm like, like, like, "I'm on my way to Jesse's house still "I'm on my way to Jesse's house still "I'm on my way to Jesse's house still mourning Saul." You know what I'm mourning Saul." You know what I'm mourning Saul." You know what I'm saying? Like I still I'm like, "But God, saying? Like I still I'm like, "But God, saying? Like I still I'm like, "But God, what about this? I'mma be obedient, but what about this? I'mma be obedient, but what about this? I'mma be obedient, but like this was like, you know, yeah, like this was like, you know, yeah, like this was like, you know, yeah, exactly, man." So, but yeah. exactly, man." So, but yeah. exactly, man." So, but yeah. >> Man, that's good. What what what fruit >> Man, that's good. What what what fruit >> Man, that's good. What what what fruit have you already seen on the other side have you already seen on the other side have you already seen on the other side of that? Cuz I'm assuming that wasn't of that? Cuz I'm assuming that wasn't of that? Cuz I'm assuming that wasn't yesterday for yesterday for yesterday for >> No, that was not. That was some years >> No, that was not. That was some years >> No, that was not. That was some years ago. I believe that um he has me where ago. I believe that um he has me where ago. I believe that um he has me where he wants me to be now, just in where I'm he wants me to be now, just in where I'm he wants me to be now, just in where I'm working and and the people I'm around working and and the people I'm around working and and the people I'm around and and and what he's called me to do now in prison what he's called me to do now in prison what he's called me to do now in prison ministry. So, yeah.

ministry. So, yeah. ministry. So, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Praise God. >> Praise God. >> Praise God. >> Yeah. Praise God. >> Yeah. Praise God. >> Yeah. Praise God. >> Seriously, we all see the fruit from the >> Seriously, we all see the fruit from the >> Seriously, we all see the fruit from the work you're doing now in such a short work you're doing now in such a short work you're doing now in such a short amount of time. amount of time. amount of time. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That's so good. >> That's so good. >> That's so good. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> The power of obedience. >> The power of obedience. >> The power of obedience. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Power of obedience, even when it's the >> Power of obedience, even when it's the >> Power of obedience, even when it's the minority opinion. minority opinion. minority opinion. Thanks for hanging with us today. Thanks for hanging with us today. Thanks for hanging with us today. >> [music]