God Cares Less About Success Than You Think | Exodus 4

Faith it requires action. Faith it requires action. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And God is looking for people who are >> And God is looking for people who are >> And God is looking for people who are going to step up and eventually he's going to step up and eventually he's going to step up and eventually he's just be like, "All right, you're you've just be like, "All right, you're you've just be like, "All right, you're you've said no a lot." So like you're my voice said no a lot." So like you're my voice said no a lot." So like you're my voice is going to get a little quieter in your is going to get a little quieter in your is going to get a little quieter in your life. life. life. >> This is the Crossroads Daily. No >> This is the Crossroads Daily. No >> This is the Crossroads Daily. No experts, no perfect people, just honest experts, no perfect people, just honest experts, no perfect people, just honest conversations about what happens when conversations about what happens when conversations about what happens when the Bible shows up in real life. >> Hey, I'm Chuck. >> Hey, I'm Chuck. >> I'm Sierra. [music] >> I'm Sierra. [music] >> I'm Sierra. [music] >> I'm Chris. I'm Alex. >> I'm Chris. I'm Alex. >> I'm Chris. I'm Alex. >> And this is about the calling of Moses. >> And this is about the calling of Moses. >> And this is about the calling of Moses. And [music] you know, Mo Moses makes all And [music] you know, Mo Moses makes all And [music] you know, Mo Moses makes all these excuses, right? He's like, "I these excuses, right? He's like, "I these excuses, right? He's like, "I can't speak well and you can get can't speak well and you can get can't speak well and you can get somebody much better." And God just like somebody much better." And God just like somebody much better." And God just like is patient and was like, "No, but you're is patient and was like, "No, but you're is patient and was like, "No, but you're the one I called. You're the one I the one I called. You're the one I the one I called. You're the one I called." He kind of makes accommodations called." He kind of makes accommodations called." He kind of makes accommodations for Moses. And at some point, he's like, for Moses. And at some point, he's like, for Moses. And at some point, he's like, "Moses, come on. We got to we got to get "Moses, come on. We got to we got to get "Moses, come on. We got to we got to get moving here." Uh, but I want I know what moving here." Uh, but I want I know what moving here." Uh, but I want I know what that feels like, you know, thinking that feels like, you know, thinking that feels like, you know, thinking about a place in your life where you about a place in your life where you about a place in your life where you have maybe been called to something, but have maybe been called to something, but have maybe been called to something, but you felt totally unqualified to do it. you felt totally unqualified to do it. you felt totally unqualified to do it. Anybody got a story like that? Anybody got a story like that? Anybody got a story like that? >> Yeah, I do. And I actually think that I >> Yeah, I do. And I actually think that I >> Yeah, I do. And I actually think that I responded in a different way than Moses.

responded in a different way than Moses. responded in a different way than Moses. I I feel like sometimes when God calls I I feel like sometimes when God calls I I feel like sometimes when God calls me to specific things, I go in with way me to specific things, I go in with way me to specific things, I go in with way too much confidence. Like, too much confidence. Like, too much confidence. Like, >> got it. Got [laughter] it. Yeah, I'm all >> got it. Got [laughter] it. Yeah, I'm all >> got it. Got [laughter] it. Yeah, I'm all I will be awesome at that for sure. Um, I will be awesome at that for sure. Um, I will be awesome at that for sure. Um, and I that's just my personality. like I and I that's just my personality. like I and I that's just my personality. like I like the new fun adventure, like the like the new fun adventure, like the like the new fun adventure, like the challenge, like I will crush that. challenge, like I will crush that. challenge, like I will crush that. >> And then I get into it and I'm like, >> And then I get into it and I'm like, >> And then I get into it and I'm like, "Oh, and maybe not." So, [laughter] >> I a couple years ago, um well, actually, >> I a couple years ago, um well, actually, it's been like 5 years ago now. Um, my it's been like 5 years ago now. Um, my it's been like 5 years ago now. Um, my husband Cameron and I felt very husband Cameron and I felt very husband Cameron and I felt very specifically called to foster care specifically called to foster care specifically called to foster care >> and had a lot of like really weird, very >> and had a lot of like really weird, very >> and had a lot of like really weird, very specific things happened to where we specific things happened to where we specific things happened to where we knew that that was the thing that God knew that that was the thing that God knew that that was the thing that God was calling us to. And I did. I was was calling us to. And I did. I was was calling us to. And I did. I was like, God's calling us to this. We are like, God's calling us to this. We are like, God's calling us to this. We are going to crush it. We are [laughter] in going to crush it. We are [laughter] in going to crush it. We are [laughter] in a really great spot in our life. We're a really great spot in our life. We're a really great spot in our life. We're like young. We've got a lot of energy.

like young. We've got a lot of energy. like young. We've got a lot of energy. So, we said yes to taking teenagers, So, we said yes to taking teenagers, So, we said yes to taking teenagers, babies, like whatever. And we um had babies, like whatever. And we um had babies, like whatever. And we um had three foster kids for about a year. And three foster kids for about a year. And three foster kids for about a year. And when we got them, their ages were 8, 13, when we got them, their ages were 8, 13, when we got them, their ages were 8, 13, and 17. and 17. and 17. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> And it was wild. You guys were what? >> And it was wild. You guys were what? >> And it was wild. You guys were what? >> Yes. Let's just Let's just take a pause >> Yes. Let's just Let's just take a pause >> Yes. Let's just Let's just take a pause [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] reaction. reaction. reaction. >> Yes. Oh my god. >> Yes. Oh my god. >> Yes. Oh my god. >> Um yeah, I was >> Um yeah, I was >> Um yeah, I was 28. 28. 28. I don't know. I was like, I don't know. I was like, I don't know. I was like, >> yeah. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> So, um, >> So, um, >> So, um, >> in in the I'm gonna crush it just >> in in the I'm gonna crush it just >> in in the I'm gonna crush it just >> so quickly once we got those kids, it >> so quickly once we got those kids, it >> so quickly once we got those kids, it was one of the hardest things we've ever was one of the hardest things we've ever was one of the hardest things we've ever done and something that God very done and something that God very done and something that God very specifically called us to. And gosh, specifically called us to. And gosh, specifically called us to. And gosh, just feeling so unqualified in so many just feeling so unqualified in so many just feeling so unqualified in so many areas. Like why did we think that we areas. Like why did we think that we areas. Like why did we think that we could parent teenagers? We've never even could parent teenagers? We've never even could parent teenagers? We've never even parented babies. Like it's it was just parented babies. Like it's it was just parented babies. Like it's it was just crazy. Let alone teenagers with a lot of crazy. Let alone teenagers with a lot of crazy. Let alone teenagers with a lot of trauma and baggage. Um, and we we saw trauma and baggage. Um, and we we saw trauma and baggage. Um, and we we saw God show up whether it was through other God show up whether it was through other God show up whether it was through other people walking us through who were people walking us through who were people walking us through who were parents of teenagers or people who had parents of teenagers or people who had parents of teenagers or people who had experience in um children who had experience in um children who had experience in um children who had suffered from trauma or resources or suffered from trauma or resources or suffered from trauma or resources or whatever. And somehow we made it through

whatever. And somehow we made it through whatever. And somehow we made it through that season um and had a lot of joyful that season um and had a lot of joyful that season um and had a lot of joyful moments too, even amidst the hard. I moments too, even amidst the hard. I moments too, even amidst the hard. I love that story and it makes me think of love that story and it makes me think of love that story and it makes me think of a uh if you've been around church parts, a uh if you've been around church parts, a uh if you've been around church parts, you've probably heard this quote. You you've probably heard this quote. You you've probably heard this quote. You know, God doesn't call the qualified, he know, God doesn't call the qualified, he know, God doesn't call the qualified, he qualifies the called. qualifies the called. qualifies the called. >> And that's true and wonderful, but I >> And that's true and wonderful, but I >> And that's true and wonderful, but I think your story is a great example of think your story is a great example of think your story is a great example of what we want that to be though is that what we want that to be though is that what we want that to be though is that he qualifies me before he qualifies me before he qualifies me before >> the call. For sure [laughter] >> the call. For sure [laughter] >> the call. For sure [laughter] >> versus what is often the case, which is >> versus what is often the case, which is >> versus what is often the case, which is he qualifies me during the call. And he qualifies me during the call. And he qualifies me during the call. And part of that qualification is realizing part of that qualification is realizing part of that qualification is realizing how unqualified I am. Right. So there's how unqualified I am. Right. So there's how unqualified I am. Right. So there's this Yeah. this Yeah. this Yeah. >> Like I don't get to have all of that >> Like I don't get to have all of that >> Like I don't get to have all of that before I go into the situation. before I go into the situation. before I go into the situation. Sometimes I'm getting on the job Sometimes I'm getting on the job Sometimes I'm getting on the job training, right? training, right? training, right? >> On the call. On the calling training >> On the call. On the calling training >> On the call. On the calling training from them, right? from them, right? from them, right? >> Oh yes. >> Oh yes. >> Oh yes. >> Sounds like that was that experience for >> Sounds like that was that experience for >> Sounds like that was that experience for you. you. you. >> Oh yeah. And we even think back now of >> Oh yeah. And we even think back now of >> Oh yeah. And we even think back now of like, oh man, if we only would know like, oh man, if we only would know like, oh man, if we only would know [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] what we do now. Like can we start over what we do now. Like can we start over what we do now. Like can we start over and do it over? We would. and do it over? We would. and do it over? We would. >> Now you might crush it. [laughter] >> Now you might crush it. [laughter] >> Now you might crush it. [laughter] >> Now I am qualified. Yes. Oh gosh.

>> Now I am qualified. Yes. Oh gosh. >> Now I am qualified. Yes. Oh gosh. >> That's good. That's good. How about you >> That's good. That's good. How about you >> That's good. That's good. How about you guys? is a time where you were called to guys? is a time where you were called to guys? is a time where you were called to do something or right now maybe are do something or right now maybe are do something or right now maybe are called to do something for which you called to do something for which you called to do something for which you feel unqualified. feel unqualified. feel unqualified. >> A few years ago, I created this like >> A few years ago, I created this like >> A few years ago, I created this like digital magazine with a creative partner digital magazine with a creative partner digital magazine with a creative partner and it was solely to fulfill a space for and it was solely to fulfill a space for and it was solely to fulfill a space for something that I didn't feel like something that I didn't feel like something that I didn't feel like existed existed existed >> and it was great. Um, one of our >> and it was great. Um, one of our >> and it was great. Um, one of our articles ended up going viral and there articles ended up going viral and there articles ended up going viral and there was a woman like a famous author that was a woman like a famous author that was a woman like a famous author that reached out to us. She was like, "I want reached out to us. She was like, "I want reached out to us. She was like, "I want to get you guys materials, like cameras, to get you guys materials, like cameras, to get you guys materials, like cameras, and I want to like purchase like an LLC and I want to like purchase like an LLC and I want to like purchase like an LLC for you guys." for you guys." for you guys." And at the time, I was like, "Wait, this And at the time, I was like, "Wait, this And at the time, I was like, "Wait, this is just for fun." Like, [laughter] is just for fun." Like, [laughter] is just for fun." Like, [laughter] >> it sounds like a job now. >> it sounds like a job now. >> it sounds like a job now. >> Like, wait, this was just like me doing >> Like, wait, this was just like me doing >> Like, wait, this was just like me doing something out of like the joy that I something out of like the joy that I something out of like the joy that I have in creating. Um, but no, we're like have in creating. Um, but no, we're like have in creating. Um, but no, we're like signing this stuff for like the LLC and signing this stuff for like the LLC and signing this stuff for like the LLC and like months later we're like, "Oh, like like months later we're like, "Oh, like like months later we're like, "Oh, like we have to file all this stuff." like we have to file all this stuff." like we have to file all this stuff." like wait the stewardship.

wait the stewardship. wait the stewardship. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> I was just not ready. Yeah. So it was >> I was just not ready. Yeah. So it was >> I was just not ready. Yeah. So it was like fun and cutesy in the beginning and like fun and cutesy in the beginning and like fun and cutesy in the beginning and I was like oh wait this is for real like I was like oh wait this is for real like I was like oh wait this is for real like this is going to take more for me to this is going to take more for me to this is going to take more for me to actually do this well and steward this actually do this well and steward this actually do this well and steward this well. So well. So well. So >> what' you do? >> what' you do? >> what' you do? >> Stewarded it well. Awesome. >> Stewarded it well. Awesome. >> Stewarded it well. Awesome. >> Yeah. Heck yeah. I I stepped into this >> Yeah. Heck yeah. I I stepped into this >> Yeah. Heck yeah. I I stepped into this challenge. [laughter] challenge. [laughter] challenge. [laughter] >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> You weren't going to say that. that you >> You weren't going to say that. that you >> You weren't going to say that. that you were just going to be like a cliffhanger were just going to be like a cliffhanger were just going to be like a cliffhanger when this what happens next. [laughter] when this what happens next. [laughter] when this what happens next. [laughter] >> I'll tell you next episode. >> I'll tell you next episode. >> I'll tell you next episode. >> What did you learn? What did you learn >> What did you learn? What did you learn >> What did you learn? What did you learn from that? from that? from that? >> That I can do hard things. No, I mean I >> That I can do hard things. No, I mean I >> That I can do hard things. No, I mean I don't know. It was just it just don't know. It was just it just don't know. It was just it just stretched me. stretched me. stretched me. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Like I don't think I realized I'm very >> Like I don't think I realized I'm very >> Like I don't think I realized I'm very type B. I don't care for logistics. I type B. I don't care for logistics. I type B. I don't care for logistics. I don't care for any of that. But it just don't care for any of that. But it just don't care for any of that. But it just taught me so much about a skill set that taught me so much about a skill set that taught me so much about a skill set that I didn't have. I didn't have. I didn't have. >> Yeah. that I needed to equip myself with >> Yeah. that I needed to equip myself with >> Yeah. that I needed to equip myself with for things that I wanted in the future. for things that I wanted in the future. for things that I wanted in the future. [clears throat] [clears throat] [clears throat] >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, it was really helpful for that >> So, it was really helpful for that >> So, it was really helpful for that season. Yeah.

season. Yeah. season. Yeah. >> That's cool. >> That's cool. >> That's cool. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I think I there's probably some examples >> I think I there's probably some examples >> I think I there's probably some examples in the last few years, but like I think in the last few years, but like I think in the last few years, but like I think of that question in the totality of my of that question in the totality of my of that question in the totality of my life. I have been and am very life. I have been and am very life. I have been and am very riskadverse in a lot of ways. Like don't riskadverse in a lot of ways. Like don't riskadverse in a lot of ways. Like don't want to do something that I'm not good want to do something that I'm not good want to do something that I'm not good at. And so like there's not been a lot at. And so like there's not been a lot at. And so like there's not been a lot of times I've felt unqualified for of times I've felt unqualified for of times I've felt unqualified for something because I haven't even been in something because I haven't even been in something because I haven't even been in a position to like potentially be a position to like potentially be a position to like potentially be unqualified for it. And that's I read unqualified for it. And that's I read unqualified for it. And that's I read that scripture and like uh God talking that scripture and like uh God talking that scripture and like uh God talking to Moses and being like you're going to to Moses and being like you're going to to Moses and being like you're going to be my mouthpiece. And Moses keeps be my mouthpiece. And Moses keeps be my mouthpiece. And Moses keeps pushing back. And I actually love that pushing back. And I actually love that pushing back. And I actually love that like God gets mad at him. He's like dude like God gets mad at him. He's like dude like God gets mad at him. He's like dude like I am telling you I'm going to do like I am telling you I'm going to do like I am telling you I'm going to do this for you. Like all you got to do is this for you. Like all you got to do is this for you. Like all you got to do is just kind of show up. just kind of show up. just kind of show up. >> And then she's like all right fine. >> And then she's like all right fine. >> And then she's like all right fine. Aaron's going to do it. Like you had Aaron's going to do it. Like you had Aaron's going to do it. Like you had said this this past weekend, Chuck, like said this this past weekend, Chuck, like said this this past weekend, Chuck, like >> faith it requires action. >> faith it requires action. >> faith it requires action. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And God is looking for people who are >> And God is looking for people who are >> And God is looking for people who are going to step up and eventually he's going to step up and eventually he's going to step up and eventually he's just going to be like, "All right, just going to be like, "All right, just going to be like, "All right, you're you've said no a lot. So like you're you've said no a lot. So like you're you've said no a lot. So like you're my voice is going to get a little you're my voice is going to get a little you're my voice is going to get a little quieter in your life. Like you're going quieter in your life. Like you're going quieter in your life. Like you're going to be hearing that."

to be hearing that." to be hearing that." >> And that was like most of my life, a lot >> And that was like most of my life, a lot >> And that was like most of my life, a lot of nos to God or not even hearing him. of nos to God or not even hearing him. of nos to God or not even hearing him. And then God's like, "All right, like And then God's like, "All right, like And then God's like, "All right, like cool. Have it your way." Like you're not cool. Have it your way." Like you're not cool. Have it your way." Like you're not going to have a very adventurous life. going to have a very adventurous life. going to have a very adventurous life. like you want life to the full that I'm like you want life to the full that I'm like you want life to the full that I'm offering like but you're not putting offering like but you're not putting offering like but you're not putting yourself in a position to even yourself in a position to even yourself in a position to even >> receive that uncomfortability to begin >> receive that uncomfortability to begin >> receive that uncomfortability to begin with. And so it's like I've been with. And so it's like I've been with. And so it's like I've been successful in a lot of ways in my life successful in a lot of ways in my life successful in a lot of ways in my life >> but not a lot of risks. >> but not a lot of risks. >> but not a lot of risks. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And that doesn't lead to growth or >> And that doesn't lead to growth or >> And that doesn't lead to growth or adventure or fun or anything like that. adventure or fun or anything like that. adventure or fun or anything like that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> It doesn't. And it and it takes it t I >> It doesn't. And it and it takes it t I >> It doesn't. And it and it takes it t I mean this is why I I love the mean this is why I I love the mean this is why I I love the opportunity of being a father opportunity of being a father opportunity of being a father >> because as a parent you learn this like >> because as a parent you learn this like >> because as a parent you learn this like if you don't give your kids challenge if you don't give your kids challenge if you don't give your kids challenge and difficulty they will be and difficulty they will be and difficulty they will be underdeveloped in some way. underdeveloped in some way. underdeveloped in some way. >> There'll be some aspect that they could >> There'll be some aspect that they could >> There'll be some aspect that they could be more developed in. They won't have it be more developed in. They won't have it be more developed in. They won't have it if you just keep making them. The great if you just keep making them. The great if you just keep making them. The great example I think of is like when a kid's example I think of is like when a kid's example I think of is like when a kid's learning to walk. learning to walk. learning to walk. >> Like man, if you catch them every time >> Like man, if you catch them every time >> Like man, if you catch them every time they stumble, they stumble, they stumble, >> it's going to take them longer to learn >> it's going to take them longer to learn >> it's going to take them longer to learn how to walk. how to walk. how to walk. >> Some of what they learn, they learn from >> Some of what they learn, they learn from >> Some of what they learn, they learn from having to get up. Some of the muscles having to get up. Some of the muscles having to get up. Some of the muscles they're even developing that they need they're even developing that they need they're even developing that they need for walking happen from getting up from for walking happen from getting up from for walking happen from getting up from the fall. And I think that's a spiritual the fall. And I think that's a spiritual the fall. And I think that's a spiritual principle for us, too, you know.

principle for us, too, you know. principle for us, too, you know. >> So, this is interesting because we're >> So, this is interesting because we're >> So, this is interesting because we're talking about calling. talking about calling. talking about calling. >> And it's just a reminder to me that like >> And it's just a reminder to me that like >> And it's just a reminder to me that like we care about results. We want to win we care about results. We want to win we care about results. We want to win all the time. And I'm not saying God all the time. And I'm not saying God all the time. And I'm not saying God doesn't care about winning. I'm not doesn't care about winning. I'm not doesn't care about winning. I'm not saying that God doesn't care about saying that God doesn't care about saying that God doesn't care about results. results. results. >> But I don't think he cares about as much >> But I don't think he cares about as much >> But I don't think he cares about as much as we do. [laughter] as we do. [laughter] as we do. [laughter] >> I think God cares more about formation. >> I think God cares more about formation. >> I think God cares more about formation. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> He cares more about who we're becoming >> He cares more about who we're becoming >> He cares more about who we're becoming >> than he does about us finishing the >> than he does about us finishing the >> than he does about us finishing the particular t. Yeah. He'll get us to the particular t. Yeah. He'll get us to the particular t. Yeah. He'll get us to the finish line. If God's called you to do finish line. If God's called you to do finish line. If God's called you to do something, follow through. You know, God something, follow through. You know, God something, follow through. You know, God called you to steward that thing. You called you to steward that thing. You called you to steward that thing. You stewarded it well. That's absolutely stewarded it well. That's absolutely stewarded it well. That's absolutely God's will that we steward things well. God's will that we steward things well. God's will that we steward things well. But I just think, man, he cares so much But I just think, man, he cares so much But I just think, man, he cares so much about our formation in the process. about our formation in the process. about our formation in the process. >> He's willing to actually have us fail at >> He's willing to actually have us fail at >> He's willing to actually have us fail at something. something. something. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> If it's going to form us. >> If it's going to form us. >> If it's going to form us. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> In the way that's to our benefit. >> In the way that's to our benefit. >> In the way that's to our benefit. >> Yeah. Well, now we're parents now to two >> Yeah. Well, now we're parents now to two >> Yeah. Well, now we're parents now to two >> biological kids, a toddler and a baby, >> biological kids, a toddler and a baby, >> biological kids, a toddler and a baby, which comes with its own set of which comes with its own set of which comes with its own set of challenges. But man, are we challenges. But man, are we challenges. But man, are we >> we are so much better parents even for >> we are so much better parents even for >> we are so much better parents even for the two babies that we have. And we will the two babies that we have. And we will the two babies that we have. And we will be so much better parents for them when be so much better parents for them when be so much better parents for them when they're teenagers going through some of they're teenagers going through some of they're teenagers going through some of the same stuff that the same stuff that the same stuff that >> um our other kids went through because >> um our other kids went through because >> um our other kids went through because we learned we learned we learned >> and because God formed us um in the >> and because God formed us um in the >> and because God formed us um in the process and brought us closer to him process and brought us closer to him process and brought us closer to him >> through that too.

>> through that too. >> through that too. >> Which is his ultimate goal, right? It's >> Which is his ultimate goal, right? It's >> Which is his ultimate goal, right? It's all about relationship. It comes back to all about relationship. It comes back to all about relationship. It comes back to God wants us to be in it with him. God wants us to be in it with him. God wants us to be in it with him. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Whatever it is, he wants us to be in it >> Whatever it is, he wants us to be in it >> Whatever it is, he wants us to be in it >> with him. >> with him. >> with him. >> Yeah. Be in step. Yep. >> Yeah. Be in step. Yep. >> Yeah. Be in step. Yep. >> One, two step. Like Sarah said, >> One, two step. Like Sarah said, >> One, two step. Like Sarah said, >> one, two step. There [laughter] you go. >> one, two step. There [laughter] you go. >> one, two step. There [laughter] you go. >> Everybody, one, two step. >> Everybody, one, two step. >> Everybody, one, two step. >> That's right. Well, hey, whatever it is >> That's right. Well, hey, whatever it is >> That's right. Well, hey, whatever it is for you today that you are stepping into for you today that you are stepping into for you today that you are stepping into or maybe have been reluctant to step or maybe have been reluctant to step or maybe have been reluctant to step into, it is true that God doesn't call into, it is true that God doesn't call into, it is true that God doesn't call the qualified as much as he qualifies the qualified as much as he qualifies the qualified as much as he qualifies the call. And so, let him let him shape the call. And so, let him let him shape the call. And so, let him let him shape you. Let him form you because he's good you. Let him form you because he's good you. Let him form you because he's good and he's trustworthy.